Re: Stuck at 6 drops

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz

I'm taking the time to respond to your email.

I've been taking MMS for two weeks now. I've started from one drop of MMS and

increased it to six yesterday, and have tried it twice and three times a day. I

have found the more drops you add, the more horrible it tastes but it does more

work to empty your bowels. Yesterday was bad and I even went to sleep for two

hours at teatime.

What I have done, is taken it on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning

and then take it again, one or two hours before going to bed. My brother just

takes it once a day. The doseage and drops is entirely a matter of individual

choice, but don't go overboard.

My symptoms varied from coldness, stomach cramps, nausea and diahorrea (sorry if

I had to describe this unpleasantly and openly).

Liz, I understand your concerns about making regular visits to the restroom /

bathroom, but to avoid or reduce this, wake up that extra hour early (e.g. 6am)

and take it again at 9pm. Let me know how you get on, but also seek advice from

other members on this thread too.

Virendra from the UK.

[Guest guest]

I started mms a week ago at 6 drops and now do 9. If anything my stools are harder. I have never experienced nausia or loose stool from it. My wife tells me I smell like bleach. Also I used to have soft stools before I started on this. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: "liz_brown67" Date: Tue, 19 May 2009 12:55:05 -0000< >Subject: [ ] Stuck at 6 drops I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit more loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried 8 and it's just about liquid. I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months! Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level? No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other people report quickly disappearing (on web sites). I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

[Guest guest]

Hi

It's important to remember everyone is going to experience similar or different

range of withdrawl symptoms when taking MMS.

, you should be experiencing loose bowels. I don't what else I can do or say

at this point.

I tried 10 drops today but drank less than half a glass / more than a quarter

glass of water with it and was expecting a prolonged visit to the bathroom, but

that hasn't happened.

[Guest guest]

I agree with Virendra. I

always take it on an empty stomach. I take mine mid morning and late at night

just before I got to bed. I definitely have more bowl movement, but nothing

disagreeable. Are you taking it with a little juice to dilute it a bit? You

may just be going though some much needed detox/cleansing and will have to go

with it for a few months.

Cheryl

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of virendrapatel1972

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:25

AM

Subject:

[ ] Re: Stuck at 6 drops

Hi Liz

I'm taking the time to respond to your email.

I've been taking MMS for two weeks now. I've started from one drop of MMS and

increased it to six yesterday, and have tried it twice and three times a day. I

have found the more drops you add, the more horrible it tastes but it does more

work to empty your bowels. Yesterday was bad and I even went to sleep for two

hours at teatime.

What I have done, is taken it on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning

and then take it again, one or two hours before going to bed. My brother just

takes it once a day. The doseage and drops is entirely a matter of individual

choice, but don't go overboard.

My symptoms varied from coldness, stomach cramps, nausea and diahorrea (sorry

if I had to describe this unpleasantly and openly).

Liz, I understand your concerns about making regular visits to the restroom /

bathroom, but to avoid or reduce this, wake up that extra hour early (e.g. 6am)

and take it again at 9pm. Let me know how you get on, but also seek advice from

other members on this thread too.

Virendra from the UK.

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Yes, I can tolerate very little MMS....when I tried to take it twice daily, couldn't handle more than 6 drops. I stayed at that level for over a month. I felt like I had a mild case of the flu...tired, achy, slighyly nauseated. This was in October of last year. I have cut back to once daily, only at bedtime...I have worked up to taking 12 drops this way. I alternate on/off weeks to allow my body to rest and recoup from the detox. I am making progress....getting some very deep level detoxification...just taking it slowly. I do take lots of antioxidants, vitamins, minerals etc on my off week to rebuild my system. Hope this gives you some reassurance.

judi

From: liz_brown67 <liz_brown67@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:55:05 AMSubject: [ ] Stuck at 6 drops

I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit more loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried 8 and it's just about liquid.I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other people report quickly disappearing (on web sites).I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

[Guest guest]

Cheryl,

Just a quick thought....if the juice you are using to dilute your MMS has ascorbic acid as a preservative ( and most of them do) you are deactivating your MMS....you might want to check the label. Any added form of vitamin C is counter-productive.

judi

From: Cheryl Young <qcyoung@...> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 11:56:26 AMSubject: RE: [ ] Re: Stuck at 6 drops

I agree with Virendra. I always take it on an empty stomach. I take mine mid morning and late at night just before I got to bed. I definitely have more bowl movement, but nothing disagreeable. Are you taking it with a little juice to dilute it a bit? You may just be going though some much needed detox/cleansing and will have to go with it for a few months.

Cheryl

From: miracle_mineral_ supplement [mailto: miracle_mineral_ supplement ] On Behalf Of virendrapatel1972Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:25 AMmiracle_mineral_ supplementSubject: [miracle_mineral_ supplement] Re: Stuck at 6 drops

Hi LizI'm taking the time to respond to your email.I've been taking MMS for two weeks now. I've started from one drop of MMS and increased it to six yesterday, and have tried it twice and three times a day. I have found the more drops you add, the more horrible it tastes but it does more work to empty your bowels. Yesterday was bad and I even went to sleep for two hours at teatime.What I have done, is taken it on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning and then take it again, one or two hours before going to bed. My brother just takes it once a day. The doseage and drops is entirely a matter of individual choice, but don't go overboard.My symptoms varied from coldness, stomach cramps, nausea and diahorrea (sorry if I had to describe this unpleasantly and openly). Liz, I understand your concerns about making regular visits to the restroom /

bathroom, but to avoid or reduce this, wake up that extra hour early (e.g. 6am) and take it again at 9pm. Let me know how you get on, but also seek advice from other members on this thread too.Virendra from the UK .

[Guest guest]

Yes, Judi. I had that

experience already! Had to start all over! UGH! I kept thinking, “Wow!

This is a breeze.” One of the kids saw ascorbic acid on the label. Went

back to the store and found some without anything in them. Costco carries a

gallon jug of organic apple juice that doesn’t have any ascorbic acid or

anything else in it. Live and learn!

Thanks,

Cheryl

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Judi Wallace

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 10:01

AM

Subject: Re:

[ ] Re: Stuck at 6 drops

Cheryl,

Just a quick thought....if the juice you are using to dilute your MMS

has ascorbic acid as a preservative ( and most of them do) you are deactivating

your MMS....you might want to check the label. Any added form of vitamin

C is counter-productive.

judi

From: Cheryl

Young <qcyounggmail>

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009

11:56:26 AM

Subject: RE: [ ]

Re: Stuck at 6 drops

I agree with Virendra. I always take it on

an empty stomach. I take mine mid morning and late at night just before I

got to bed. I definitely have more bowl movement, but nothing

disagreeable. Are you taking it with a little juice to dilute it a

bit? You may just be going though some much needed detox/cleansing and

will have to go with it for a few months.

Cheryl

From: miracle_mineral_ supplement

[mailto: miracle_mineral_ supplement ] On Behalf Of virendrapatel1972

Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:25

AM

miracle_mineral_ supplement@

groups. com

Subject: [miracle_mineral_

supplement] Re: Stuck at 6 drops

Hi Liz

I'm taking the time to respond to your email.

I've been taking MMS for two weeks now. I've started from one drop of MMS and

increased it to six yesterday, and have tried it twice and three times a day. I

have found the more drops you add, the more horrible it tastes but it does more

work to empty your bowels. Yesterday was bad and I even went to sleep for two

hours at teatime.

What I have done, is taken it on an empty stomach, first thing in the morning

and then take it again, one or two hours before going to bed. My brother just

takes it once a day. The doseage and drops is entirely a matter of individual

choice, but don't go overboard.

My symptoms varied from coldness, stomach cramps, nausea and diahorrea (sorry

if I had to describe this unpleasantly and openly).

Liz, I understand your concerns about making regular visits to the restroom / bathroom,

but to avoid or reduce this, wake up that extra hour early (e.g. 6am) and take

it again at 9pm. Let me know how you get on, but also seek advice from other

members on this thread too.

Virendra from the UK

..

[Guest guest]

Hi, thanks, yes it is reassuring to hear that some other people get stuck at a

fairly low level for quite a while. The book and web pages so blithely talk of

working up to 15 by increasing just about daily.

I take it at night several hours after eating just before bed. The stomach

probably still has some food but not a lot. (The one time tried it in the

morning before breakfast I almost immediately vomited, so my totally empty

stomach really does not like MMS.)

The first several weeks I'd feel almost like a low voltage electricity a few

minutes after taking it. I don't feel that now, but I'm still at 6 drops.

In have noticed when I stop it for a day or two I have harder stools than I used

to before I heard of MMS. But with MMS no problem getting the gunk out.

The idea I might be going through some sort of gradual detox makes sense, I have

never done any kind of detox. Could be dealing with eveything from dental

mercury to intestinal bugs picked up in third world countries over the years to

whatever the liver and kidneys are supposed to get cleansed of, all of it

sub-clinical.

I do feel a lot healthier than a few months ago, don't know whether to attribute

that to MMS, 4000 units a day of Vitamin D3, 2 TBSP a day of cold pressed flax

seed oil for Omega 3, or bouncing on my mini-tramp, all of which started at

about the same time. (I decided to really focus on improving my health.)

It feels good to feel good. To wake up wanting to get out of bed instead of

wanting to just lie there feeling cozy.

Liz

>

> Hi Liz,

>

> Yes, I can tolerate very little MMS....when I tried to take it twice daily,

couldn't handle more than 6 drops. I stayed at that level for over a month.  I

felt like I had a mild case of the flu...tired, achy, slighyly nauseated. This

was in October of last year.   I have cut back to once daily, only at

bedtime...I have worked up to taking 12 drops this way.  I alternate on/off

weeks to allow my body to rest and recoup from the detox.  I am making

progress....getting some very deep level detoxification...just taking it

slowly.  I do take lots of antioxidants, vitamins, minerals etc on my off week

to rebuild my system. Hope this gives you some reassurance.

>

> judi

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: liz_brown67 <liz_brown67@...>

>

> Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:55:05 AM

> Subject: [ ] Stuck at 6 drops

>

>

> I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

>

> Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Yes, I too was stuck at 5 drops for about 3 months with terrible

diarrhea. You have an intestinal problem that you must address first

and foremost. Chances are very good that you have parasites and

likely a bad case of candida.

I did 2 boxes of Paragone (www.renewlife.com or Whole Foods) for 30 days.

Next, I did their Candigone for 30 days.

Then I've done 13 Hulda liver flushes (www.curezone.com/cleanse/liver).

I also take mega-doses of probiotics (2-6 pills a day).

Now I can get up to 10 drops (5 drops 2X) and even as high as 8

drops at a go with no diarrhea. I have not tried to go higher.

Good luck,

Brad

[Guest guest]

2009-04-24 1. 3 drops mms 3 drops activator . tingling feeling in hands,

could be suggestion

2. 4 drops mms 4 drops activator diarhoea (caught a cold

as well)

headache a little bit, a little nausea, had it very

cold ,

2009-04-25 1 5 drops mms 25 drops activator plus a glass of water ,before

this relieving diarhoea (as if there is more air in the bowels and somtehing has

definitely gone which is a fact of course)

a little light in the head, had two sandwhiches before

taking in. bloodpresure up till 170/100, soft skin, taste of chloor in the mouth

running very difficult, after running and taking shower en at my work i felt

fine, only the feeling having swum in a chlorated swimmingpool

2006-04-26 1 . 3x 5 drops of mms. /25 drops activator through the day no

nausea , no problems, no high blood pressure

2009-04-27 2 1600 hrs 15 drops /75 dropsactivator light nausea for 2 hrs

still a softer skin, nice feeling in my gums, feeling fresh again

2009-04-28 1.0800 hrs 15 drops/75 activator fell asleep again,first a little

bit nausea, tired all day , but feeling okay

2009-04-29 2. 0200 hrs 15 drops/75 activtor light nausea like having a full

stomach feeling slept okay

2009-04-29 1. 1200 hrs 15 drops/75 activator , had only eaten soup , stomach

pains throughout the day and feeling nauseus,

gone away in the evening after taking probiotica,

difficulty concentrating

2009-04-30 2 . 0200 hrs 15 drops/30 activator felt okay no nausea ,slept well,

rather nice dreams

2009-04-30 1 1200 hrs 15 drops , 50 activator. did i accidentilly change the

activator with the mms ? I had to go to work and almost fell of my bike

of discomfort. It seemed to me that i was taken out of

the body thats how nauseated i was.People at the street were staring at me when

biking along. Throughout the day pain in my stomach then down in the guts and

the liver. Taking probiotica did not seem to help The worst lasted about 3

hours but almost the whole day , i did organize a barbcue (gross, all that meat)

as well and could eat the meat without much restraint.

2009-05-01 2. 01.00 hrs 15 drops 45 activator , slept well had some nausea

..diarhoea

2009-05-01 1. 1600 hrs 15 drops/ change of activator due to stomach pain : 25

drops of white wine vinegar

no stomach pains, more pain in the guts later at on 0200 hrs. when i was

sleeping but maybe because i had eaten brown beans.i did some jogging though in

the evening and that went well.

2009-05-02 in the morning still diarhoea, did not feel bad , but still gut

pains, i decide to cut back drops because of the pain.

2009-05-02 20.00 hrs 8 drops mms/ 15 drops activator white , thick throat

sensations , feeling full in the stomach, relaxation of the throat later on.

feeling okay, in the morning feeling more energetic,mild liver pain

2009-05-03 16.30 hrs 7 drops mms / 15 activator wwv ,good feeling ,especially

because i did eat one hour before intake

2009-05-04 0900 hrs 9 drops mms / 17 activator wwv feeling stoned, mild pain

in the gut, totally fucntioning, bloodpressure 88/148

2009-05-04 17.30 hrs 6 drops mms/10 activator wwv not a thing unless a little

bit drowsy

2009-05-04 1900 hrs 8 drops mms/14 activator wwv first hours a little bit

nausea

2009-05-05 14.30u hrs 9 drops mms / 14 activator wwv pain in the left side of

the face (teeth/jaw), pain in the stomach and lower regions for 2 hours

2009-05-06 1200 hrs 6 drops mms / 10 activator wwv did not eat the whole

dayexcept in the evening, slight pains ,no feeling of hunger , feeling alert

Till now it works rather okay for me some effects are very probably beyond my

scope of perception, i feel more alert, more aware , more 'bussineslike', more

'matter of fact', in combination with coffee i act to my taste too busy, like

overconfident

In general , the feeling of hunger goes away and when you eat there is some

detachment in eating,you taste ist but from a distance

Because the stuff is pure chemical, by man-extracted so tot say, i would not be

surprised to some nasty side effects, maybe in the long term?

The impression is that there is during using MMS there is less memory

functioning available

The mental effects of one dose do not last for more than about 9 hours

The most important thing in the use of this, is that you start slowly, maybe

even beginning with half a drop , as a friend of mine said who used a lot of

drugs in the old days: " you only needed one drop of LSD " . This is an

exaggeration

2009-05-07 1500u 3 drops MMS/5 activator no hunger feeling okay

2100 hrs 4 drops MMS /8 wwv activator doing the nightshift at

my wordk okay

2009-05-08 1700 hrs 5 drops MMS/ 7 wwv activator, full of energy at work no

problems

2009-05-09 1400hrs 6 dropsmms/11 wwv activator slight diarheoea

2009-05-09 2100hrs idem

2009-05-10 nothing

2009-05-11 twice 5 drops mms / 10 activator within 4 hours no problem

2009-05-12 twice 5 drops mms / 10 activator within 1 hour , the first dose was

okay, with the second massive diaroeha

i stopped taking in to restore my system

>

> Hi, thanks, yes it is reassuring to hear that some other people get stuck at a

fairly low level for quite a while. The book and web pages so blithely talk of

working up to 15 by increasing just about daily.

>

> I take it at night several hours after eating just before bed. The stomach

probably still has some food but not a lot. (The one time tried it in the

morning before breakfast I almost immediately vomited, so my totally empty

stomach really does not like MMS.)

>

> The first several weeks I'd feel almost like a low voltage electricity a few

minutes after taking it. I don't feel that now, but I'm still at 6 drops.

>

> In have noticed when I stop it for a day or two I have harder stools than I

used to before I heard of MMS. But with MMS no problem getting the gunk out.

>

> The idea I might be going through some sort of gradual detox makes sense, I

have never done any kind of detox. Could be dealing with eveything from dental

mercury to intestinal bugs picked up in third world countries over the years to

whatever the liver and kidneys are supposed to get cleansed of, all of it

sub-clinical.

>

> I do feel a lot healthier than a few months ago, don't know whether to

attribute that to MMS, 4000 units a day of Vitamin D3, 2 TBSP a day of cold

pressed flax seed oil for Omega 3, or bouncing on my mini-tramp, all of which

started at about the same time. (I decided to really focus on improving my

health.)

>

> It feels good to feel good. To wake up wanting to get out of bed instead of

wanting to just lie there feeling cozy.

>

> Liz

>

> --- In , Judi Wallace <blueyes5724@>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi Liz,

> >

> > Yes, I can tolerate very little MMS....when I tried to take it twice daily,

couldn't handle more than 6 drops. I stayed at that level for over a month. I

felt like I had a mild case of the flu...tired, achy, slighyly nauseated. This

was in October of last year. I have cut back to once daily, only at

bedtime...I have worked up to taking 12 drops this way. I alternate on/off

weeks to allow my body to rest and recoup from the detox. I am making

progress....getting some very deep level detoxification...just taking it slowly.

I do take lots of antioxidants, vitamins, minerals etc on my off week to rebuild

my system. Hope this gives you some reassurance.

> >

> > judi

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: liz_brown67 <liz_brown67@>

> >

> > Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 8:55:05 AM

> > Subject: [ ] Stuck at 6 drops

> >

> >

> > I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> >

> > Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I am at 5 drops. I started MMS in October of 2007. It seems to

affect my heart so I'm taking it nice and slow. I'm gradually feeling

better so I guess it is working. As soon as spring activities slow

down, I will see if I can take 6 drops a day.

Carmen

liz_brown67 wrote:

> I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit more

loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried 8

and it's just about liquid.

>

> I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

>

> Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

>

> No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other people

report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

>

> I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I just received my first bottle of MMS today. In the package, there's a paper

describing the standard MMS Protocol by Jim Humble. It says:

" Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening on a light

stomack (not empty, but not full - some bread or a banana is good) "

Take care,

> > I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit more

loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried 8

and it's just about liquid.

> >

> > I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> >

> > Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> >

> > No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other people

report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

> >

> > I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi , Bread or bananas are fine at night with MMS.

from Israel

> > > I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit

more loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried

8 and it's just about liquid.

> > >

> > > I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> > >

> > > Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> > >

> > > No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other

people report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

> > >

> > > I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Taking MMS depletes the body of Vitamin C and also minerals, including

magnesium. It is important to supplement with these depleted items when you are

not taking MMS - say 4-8 hours afterwards. Magnesium depletion can lead to

serious heart troubles!

from Israel

> > I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit more

loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried 8

and it's just about liquid.

> >

> > I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> >

> > Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> >

> > No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other people

report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

> >

> > I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello Carmen, You might want to take Pau D'Arco tea, as it contains Co-Q10 and

is a powerful antifungal. Co-Q10 is good for the heart and if your heart is

infected, a good antifungal herb is in order.

from Israel

> >>

> >>> I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit

more loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried

8 and it's just about liquid.

> >>>

> >>> I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> >>>

> >>> Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> >>>

> >>> No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other

people report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

> >>>

> >>> I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>> ------------------------------------

> >>>

> >>>

[Guest guest]

> > > I'm doing MMS at night before bed. At 6 drops my stools is just a bit

more loose than normal in the morning. At 7 a bit too loose. Last night I tried

8 and it's just about liquid.

> > >

> > > I've been at 6 drops for a couple of months!

> > >

> > > Has anyone else gotten stuck at such a low level?

> > >

> > > No other changes: I still have athletes foot and warts, things other

people report quickly disappearing (on web sites).

> > >

> > > I suppose I should up it to twice a day, but I worry about having the day

affected by the runs or the MMS affected by my time-release vitamin C.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ------------------------------------

> > >

> > >