Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Amazing...... I hope you keep us informed about your worm like creatures and how long it takes for them to disappear from your blood altogether. I have used MMS with DMSO in a transdermal application for a while but decided to try drinking it. I took 6 drops and an hour later took 6 more drops I had no ill effects [yesterday] but today I am lethargic and just feel very blah...I also had diarrhea. I did not take the drops today because I wanted to take some vitamin C. The dissertation on your experimentation with MMS has caused me to get serious with MMS and take it on a daily basis. Thank you for this bit of encouragement. Sandy > > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > juice and also before and after meals. I have a dark field microscope > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > seeing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > while in the blood of friends that came by. > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > the blood started to lose it foggy straw like background and there > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > white or in darker color. > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > less, I became less nauseous. > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > report how it goes. > From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > they do. > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known chronic > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > will overwhelm my checks and balances system (immune) and will destroy > my body. > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > a $8000 dark field microscope. I understand that the reason for being > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > really sick and that worked. > This is going to be an interesting journey. > , > sdale AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 , I found this to be very interesting. Thank you for the report, and I hope you will continue to let us know what you see in your microscope. Carmen xsig2003 wrote: > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > juice and also before and after meals. I have a darkfield microscope > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > seing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > while in the blood of friends that came by. > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > the blood started to lose it foggy strawlike background and there > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > white or in darker color. > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > less, I became less nauseous. > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > report how it goes. > >From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > they do. > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known cronic > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > will overwhelm my checks and balances sytem (immune) and will destroy > my body. > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > a $8000 darkfield microscope. I understand that the reason for being > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > really sick and that worked. > This is going to be an interesting journey. > , > sdale AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 , your microscope results only validate what Jim, MMS discoverer, has been saying all along. Thank you for such an encouraging report. Now, where did I put my MMS.....? tama hawaii > > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > juice and also before and after meals. I have a darkfield microscope > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > seing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > while in the blood of friends that came by. > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > the blood started to lose it foggy strawlike background and there > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > white or in darker color. > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > less, I became less nauseous. > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > report how it goes. > From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > they do. > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known cronic > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > will overwhelm my checks and balances sytem (immune) and will destroy > my body. > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > a $8000 darkfield microscope. I understand that the reason for being > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > really sick and that worked. > This is going to be an interesting journey. > , > sdale AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 23, 2009 Report Share Posted January 23, 2009 Wow, that's incredible. I don't suppose you can photo or video these critters, so they could be shared with some experts. I'd love to know what they are! Alan On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 6:49 PM, xsig2003 <paul@...> wrote: > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > juice and also before and after meals. I have a darkfield microscope > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > seing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > while in the blood of friends that came by. > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > the blood started to lose it foggy strawlike background and there > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > white or in darker color. > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > less, I became less nauseous. > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > report how it goes. > From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > they do. > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known cronic > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > will overwhelm my checks and balances sytem (immune) and will destroy > my body. > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > a $8000 darkfield microscope. I understand that the reason for being > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > really sick and that worked. > This is going to be an interesting journey. > , > sdale AZ > -- Alan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 24, 2009 Report Share Posted January 24, 2009 Alan, we can become our own " experts " . In microbiology, pathogens are identified visually. http://chainexerciser.tripod.com > > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > > juice and also before and after meals. I have a darkfield microscope > > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > > seing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > > while in the blood of friends that came by. > > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > > the blood started to lose it foggy strawlike background and there > > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > > white or in darker color. > > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > > less, I became less nauseous. > > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > > report how it goes. > > From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > > they do. > > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known cronic > > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > > will overwhelm my checks and balances sytem (immune) and will destroy > > my body. > > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > > a $8000 darkfield microscope. I understand that the reason for being > > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > > really sick and that worked. > > This is going to be an interesting journey. > > , > > sdale AZ > > > > -- > Alan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2009 Report Share Posted January 27, 2009 Hi , this is really interesting. May I have your permission to forward your post to a couple of Lyme support groups please? Rosemary. > > Thank you for all your replies regarding the taking of MMS with juice > and interference of food. My hunch is that it is working with the > juice and also before and after meals. I have a darkfield microscope > with video camera and I decided to record on the computer the blood > pictures before I started taking MMS and every day thereafter. > Before I took MMS I practically never saw any worm like creatures in > my blood. After starting with only two drops I immediately started > seing all kinds of different bug types. I had seen a few once in a > while in the blood of friends that came by. > As I increased the drops the worms became more, in the beginning only > going along their way to a destination. A few drops more and a few > days later, they became quite erratic - just wiggling in place and > they seemed to have lost their intelligence. When I reached 15 drops, > the blood started to lose it foggy strawlike background and there > were many areas that were totally clear from any objects -except for > of course the blood cells. One thing I could still find here and > there were the little worms of different types. Some I called 'fat > sausages', some I called short barbells and some were long skinny > barbells. But then there are also just fairly large round ones in > white or in darker color. > As time went on, I always was a little nauseous. As the 'bugs' became > less, I became less nauseous. > Today (after 2 days of morning and evening 15 drops) I noticed a > dramatic increase in various kinds of white blood cells and several > of them were heavily loaded up with the white stuff - probably from > dead 'bugs'. My immune system at work. There were still a few worms > type creatures. I will continue with the 15 drops 2xday and will > report how it goes. > From what I have learned from other sites, it appears that most > people have these little worms and they are generally living (hiding) > somewhere in the body and are only rarely floating around in the > blood. It appears that the MMS takes away their ability to function > normally and eventually they die. This means however that the > strength, frequency and duration of intake of MMS are important and I > hope to prove that eventually there are no more of these wiggly > creatures. Now, of course I would love to know what they are and what > they do. > I am 64 years old (male) and really don't have any known cronic > illness. I am doing this more for research for my family. But it is > possible that those buggers, if left alone long enough, eventually > will overwhelm my checks and balances sytem (immune) and will destroy > my body. > I hope this dissertation will help some of you to be encouraged to > continue with MMS even when you feel a little sick or when you think > it takes forever. Of course, it would be nice if everyone could have > a $8000 darkfield microscope. I understand that the reason for being > nauseous is that the bugs who die give off poisons and that makes you > feel that way. I cut back a little on drops in order not to get > really sick and that worked. > This is going to be an interesting journey. > , > sdale AZ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2009 Report Share Posted January 28, 2009 Did you feel that you the skin application was helpful? I have wondered if that would be the way to go, but have been taking it internally. In a message dated 1/22/2009 8:38:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hollis302000@... writes: I have used MMS with DMSO in a transdermal application for a while but decided to try drinking it. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Thanks...this is very helpful to me. I also have a ringing in my left ear that has tested out to inhibit hearing. Initially the ringing in the ear cleared up after ingesting MMS but now it is back. I am going to try this on the ear as soon as I get some DMSO. Thanks for the warning about possible skin irritation. I have also found myself groggy after taking MMS, so I am hoping the skin application will be a bit more gentle. Glenna In a message dated 1/29/2009 11:33:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, hollis302000@... writes: Yes, I highly recommend it. After taking the MMS orally for a while I have found it does not work as well for me. For several days afterward I just feel sluggish and run down but when I use it with DMSO transdermally there is none of that.There are those on the DMSO group who believe these two products cancel each other out...I disagree. For quite sometime now I have not been able to hear anythibg out of my left ear though I do hear a type of constant noise. I will rub the MMS/DMSO all around the ear and even put a bit on the end of my finger and put it inside [not even a drop...just a bit] now I am starting to get hearing back...unbelievable! Since I have been using the MMS orally the noise is back whereas before it had stopped.You must be careful using MM/DMSO because it can and does irritate the skin...you have to get your skin used to it...however, the skin around my ear has never gotten irritated....but it has on my stomach though it is well worth it in my opinion.Regards...S A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Yes, I highly recommend it. After taking the MMS orally for a while I have found it does not work as well for me. For several days afterward I just feel sluggish and run down but when I use it with DMSO transdermally there is none of that. There are those on the DMSO group who believe these two products cancel each other out...I disagree. For quite sometime now I have not been able to hear anythibg out of my left ear though I do hear a type of constant noise. I will rub the MMS/DMSO all around the ear and even put a bit on the end of my finger and put it inside [not even a drop...just a bit] now I am starting to get hearing back...unbelievable! Since I have been using the MMS orally the noise is back whereas before it had stopped. You must be careful using MM/DMSO because it can and does irritate the skin...you have to get your skin used to it...however, the skin around my ear has never gotten irritated....but it has on my stomach though it is well worth it in my opinion. Regards... S --- In , HappyYoga@... wrote: > > Did you feel that you the skin application was helpful? I have wondered if > that would be the way to go, but have been taking it internally. > > > > In a message dated 1/22/2009 8:38:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > hollis302000@... writes: > > I have used MMS with DMSO in a transdermal application for a while > but decided to try drinking it. > > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy > steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol? redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072% 26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De > cemailfooterNO62) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 Theoretically, the transdermal application should be considerably more effective than the oral application. HappyYoga@... wrote: Did you feel that you the skin application was helpful? I have wondered if that would be the way to go, but have been taking it internally. In a message dated 1/22/2009 8:38:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, hollis302000 writes: I have used MMS with DMSO in a transdermal application for a while but decided to try drinking it. A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 On 1/29/2009 9:23 PM, jim wrote: > *Theoretically, the transdermal application should be considerably more > effective than the oral application.* The OCCD (overnight cancer cure) specifically STOPPED recommending transdermal use for cancer because it was NOT as effective as oral. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2009 Report Share Posted January 30, 2009 This from the Cancer Tutor web site ...Clorine Dioxide and DMSO...one transdermal application. Clarifying What One Batch Means The steps above can be summarized thusly: 1) Put 15 drops (or 12 drops or 9 drops) of MMS in a small bowl,2) Add ONE TEAspoon of the "activator" (citric acid, lemon juice or lime juice),3) WAIT 3 minutes (stir at first and every 30 seconds) to make the chlorine dioxide,4) Add ONE and 1/4 TEAspoon of DMSO,5) WAIT an additional 3 minutes (stir at first and every 30 seconds) for the DMSO to bind to the chlorine dioxide. You Have Now Made One Batch of Chlorine Dioxide / DMSO!! > > *Theoretically, the transdermal application should be considerably more> > effective than the oral application.*> > The OCCD (overnight cancer cure) specifically STOPPED recommending> transdermal use for cancer because it was NOT as effective as oral.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 from what i've read not too long ago, they do suggest the oral first, but still say to do the transdermal if you can't handle it orally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 On 1/31/2009 1:45 PM, sabine luis wrote: > from what i've read not too long ago, they do suggest the oral first, > but still say to do the transdermal if you can't handle it orally. Correct... but my point is: 1. They initially only recommended transdermal 2. They then CHANGED this recommendation to only ORAL, SPECIFICALLY because their evidence showed that oral was much more effective for (most of the) cancer they were dealing with. So, even though they do say to do it transdermally if you can't handle it orally, they also say that it won't be nearly as effective... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 ...keep in mind that the OCC is all theory so far. there's no real compiled results in whether it works at all; it's reasonable speculation that it just might work. it's something to try, not something to jump into thinking it's cured lots of people already. > Re: [ ] Re: MMS with juice > > > On 1/31/2009 1:45 PM, sabine luis wrote: > > from what i've read not too long ago, they do suggest the oral first, > > but still say to do the transdermal if you can't handle it orally. > > Correct... but my point is: > > 1. They initially only recommended transdermal > > 2. They then CHANGED this recommendation to only ORAL, SPECIFICALLY > because their evidence showed that oral was much more effective for > (most of the) cancer they were dealing with. > > So, even though they do say to do it transdermally if you can't handle > it orally, they also say that it won't be nearly as effective... > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 On 1/31/2009, bob Larson (bobList@...) wrote: > ..keep in mind that the OCC is all theory so far. there's no real compiled > results in whether it works at all; it's reasonable speculation that it > just might work. it's something to try, not something to jump into thinking > it's cured lots of people already. True enough, but the same can be said for pretty much every 'alternative' therapy out there, with a few notable exceptions - for example, ozone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 That is great news. In a message dated 1/29/2009 9:24:00 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 6840268@... writes: Theoretically, the transdermal application should be considerably more effective than the oral application. Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Now I'm confused...but I already was. I think i will take it orally when able to and those days where I just can't handle it, I'll try painting it on with the DMSO. I can sure tell the difference without MMS, as with two days off it (due to nausea) I started the extreme night sweats again and some of the old aches and pains returned. Am back on it ASAP. In a message dated 1/30/2009 8:04:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, tanstaafl@... writes: The OCCD (overnight cancer cure) specifically STOPPED recommendingtransdermal use for cancer because it was NOT as effective as oral. Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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