Guest guest Posted July 30, 2009 Report Share Posted July 30, 2009 My DH brought home a two week old kitten about a month ago... This wee thing is blind in one eye and has an upper respiratory illness.. And, too late, I also discovered that she had ringworm. I discovered this when I noticed a bunch of spots on myself and our three dogs Of course, DH didn't get any since I have been wee kitties caregiver. So, does anyone know if MMS will treat this fungus or does anyone have first hand experience with MMS and ringworm? What an introduction, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 I don't have the answers, but my heart goes out to wee kitty.Topically, emu oil is helpful for nasties......I guess read the archives. I do know that some folks have used the MMS on pets with success.She will get used to one eye, if that is all she has ever known. Now get to work on getting the rest of her healthy.I am writing this more just to bump the thread and hope somebody can give you some concrete assistance.She could end up being your miracle kitty.Blessings her way,IngaOn Jul 29, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Stavert wrote:My DH brought home a two week old kitten about a month ago...This wee thing is blind in one eye and has an upper respiratoryillness..And, too late, I also discovered that she had ringworm.I discovered this when I noticed a bunch of spots on myselfand our three dogs :(Of course, DH didn't get any since I have been wee kittiescaregiver.So, does anyone know if MMS will treat this fungus or doesanyone have first hand experience with MMS and ringworm?What an introduction, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 You can certainly try the MMS. Because ringworm is a virus MMS should kill it just fine. Use it orally, and put CS externally, which should kill the virus too. Usually ringworm will go away on its own after a few weeks, but because her immune system is so bad she will need help. MMS once a day, preferably at night. During the day give her vit. C (C stops MMS from working so needs to be separated by at least 2 hours) give her some probiotics for her stomach (which also boosts the immune). Spray CS in her eyes, it won't hurt a bit. Just watch her that the C and the MMS don't give her diarrhea. If so, back off from them and give her pumpkin. You can just buy canned pumpkin and set a bit out for her every day--some cats just like to eat it and it's good for them, keeping them regular. But if she gets diarrhea the pumpkin will stop it naturally. You can use the CS on you and the dogs, plus you all can take the MMS internally too, though usually the CS externally will kill ringworm. But I think it's always good to take at least a few days of MMS internally for any type of virus/bacteria thing, just to be on the safe side. My dog is blind in one eye. Got it knocked out of its socket when she was 9 weeks old. The vet put it back in, but it sets far back and never regained vision. She's just fine. She's going on 4 now. Oh, the MMS should also help with the upper respiratory thing, too. If it doesn't clear up right away, then spraying the CS in the ears and eyes and nose will help, and you may want to put some CS in her drinking water. Good luck. -------Original Message------- On Jul 29, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Stavert wrote: My DH brought home a two week old kitten about a month ago...This wee thing is blind in one eye and has an upper respiratoryillness..And, too late, I also discovered that she had ringworm.I discovered this when I noticed a bunch of spots on myselfand our three dogs :(Of course, DH didn't get any since I have been wee kittiescaregiver.So, does anyone know if MMS will treat this fungus or doesanyone have first hand experience with MMS and ringworm?What an introduction, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Oh, ringworm is a virus, not a fungus, though I've found a few sites that call it a fungus. But nope, it's viral. Samala, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 , I have never read that ringworm was a virus. It is always listed as a fungus. I think you better recheck your references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Inga, thanks sooooo much. Sophie is absolutely hilarious. She almost died last week... Woke up one morning and she was hot and wouldn't move. Took her to the vet and got some antibiotics... She's great now. At 8 weeks old, she plays " hide and seek " with everyone that comes down the hall - dogs, cats and people Vet said that her eye was lost because of the respiratory issue. Right now, shes washing the ears of one of my dogs. Again, thanks > > > My DH brought home a two week old kitten about a month ago... > > > > This wee thing is blind in one eye and has an upper respiratory > > illness.. > > > > And, too late, I also discovered that she had ringworm. > > > > I discovered this when I noticed a bunch of spots on myself > > and our three dogs > > > > Of course, DH didn't get any since I have been wee kitties > > caregiver. > > > > So, does anyone know if MMS will treat this fungus or does > > anyone have first hand experience with MMS and ringworm? > > > > What an introduction, eh? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 , thank you so much for the clear directions on what and how much to use/do. Give your " baby " a hug for me. Wee beasties are so very resilient, aren't they? Is it necessary to buy the citric activator or can apple cider vinegar be used? Thanks In , " " <gaiacita@...> wrote: > > You can certainly try the MMS. Because ringworm is a virus MMS should kill > it just fine. Use it orally, and put CS externally, which should kill the > virus too. Usually ringworm will go away on its own after a few weeks, but > because her immune system is so bad she will need help. > > MMS once a day, preferably at night. During the day give her vit. C (C > stops MMS from working so needs to be separated by at least 2 hours) give > her some probiotics for her stomach (which also boosts the immune). Spray > CS in her eyes, it won't hurt a bit. Just watch her that the C and the MMS > don't give her diarrhea. If so, back off from them and give her pumpkin. > You can just buy canned pumpkin and set a bit out for her every day--some > cats just like to eat it and it's good for them, keeping them regular. But > if she gets diarrhea the pumpkin will stop it naturally. > > You can use the CS on you and the dogs, plus you all can take the MMS > internally too, though usually the CS externally will kill ringworm. But I > think it's always good to take at least a few days of MMS internally for any > type of virus/bacteria thing, just to be on the safe side. > > My dog is blind in one eye. Got it knocked out of its socket when she was 9 > weeks old. The vet put it back in, but it sets far back and never regained > vision. She's just fine. She's going on 4 now. > > Oh, the MMS should also help with the upper respiratory thing, too. If it > doesn't clear up right away, then spraying the CS in the ears and eyes and > nose will help, and you may want to put some CS in her drinking water. > > Good luck. > > > -------Original Message------- > > On Jul 29, 2009, at 6:36 PM, Stavert wrote: > > > My DH brought home a two week old kitten about a month ago... > > This wee thing is blind in one eye and has an upper respiratory > illness.. > > And, too late, I also discovered that she had ringworm. > > I discovered this when I noticed a bunch of spots on myself > and our three dogs > > Of course, DH didn't get any since I have been wee kitties > caregiver. > > So, does anyone know if MMS will treat this fungus or does > anyone have first hand experience with MMS and ringworm? > > What an introduction, eh? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 WOW..... EVERY site that I went to read that ringworm is a fungus... Lots of misinformation being passed around. What's the difference between virus and fungus and how do you know which is which? Thanks a bunch > > Oh, ringworm is a virus, not a fungus, though I've found a few sites that > call it a fungus. But nope, it's viral. > > Samala, > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hard to tell which is which when it's external. Usually fungus is itchy and weepy, like athletes foot. Here's a part of an article that distinguishes, though it says that ringworm is also a fungus. I had always heard it's a virus, and that it goes away on it's own--usually fungus doesn't do that. We got ringworm here when a stray cat came and brought ringworm with her. We did nothing and it all went away within 2 weeks. I have friends on lists that have gotten it that cured it quickly, in a matter of days, with CS. I imagine because MMS is stronger than CS it would work best. This is from Mayo Clinic. Germs live everywhere. You can find germs in the air, on food, plants and animals, in the soil, in the water, and on just about every other surface — including your own body. Most germs won't harm you. Your immune system protects you against a multitude of infectious agents. However, some germs are formidable adversaries because they're constantly mutating to breach your immune system's defenses. Knowing more about how germs work can increase your chances of avoiding infection.Infectious agents: From bacteria to wormsCLICK TO ENLARGEIllustration showing different types of infectious agents Types of infectious agents Infectious agents come in a variety of shapes and sizes. Categories include: * Bacteria * Viruses * Fungi * Protozoa * Helminths Bacteria Bacteria are one-celled organisms visible only with a microscope. They're so small that if you lined up a thousand of them end to end, they could fit across the end of a pencil eraser. They're shaped like short rods, spheres or spirals. Not all bacteria are harmful. In fact, less than 1 percent cause disease, and some bacteria that live in your body are actually good for you. For instance, Lactobacillus acidophilus — a harmless bacterium that resides in your intestines — helps you digest food, destroys some disease-causing organisms and provides nutrients to your body. Many disease-causing bacteria produce toxins — powerful chemicals that damage cells and make you ill. Bacteria cause diseases such as: * Strep throat * Tuberculosis * Urinary tract infections Viruses Viruses are much smaller than cells. In fact, viruses are basically just capsules that contain genetic material. They may be shaped like rods, spheres or tiny tadpoles. To reproduce, viruses invade cells in your body, hijacking the machinery that makes cells work. Host cells are eventually destroyed during this process. Viruses are responsible for causing a wide range of diseases, including: * AIDS * Common cold * Ebola hemorrhagic fever * Genital herpes * Influenza * Measles * Smallpox Antibiotics have no effect on viruses.Fungi There are many different varieties of fungi, and we eat quite a few of them. Mushrooms are fungi, as is the mold that forms the blue or green veins in some types of cheese. And yeast, another type of fungi, is a necessary ingredient to make most types of bread. Other fungi can cause illness. One example is candida — a yeast that can cause infection. Candida can cause thrush — an infection of the mouth and throat — in infants and in people taking antibiotics or who have an impaired immune system. Fungi are also responsible for such skin problems as athlete's foot and ringworm. -------Original Message------- WOW..... EVERY site that I went to read that ringworm is a fungus... Lots of misinformation being passed around. What's the difference between virus and fungus and how do you know which is which? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 ACV (apple cider vinegar) can be used, as can white vinegar. All I had at home when I first got my MMS was white vinegar and used that to cure a tooth infection. They say the strongest activator is citric acid, then lemon or lime juice then vinegar, but they all work. Yes, the great thing with animals is that they don't go around feeling sorry for themselves. I also had a dog that got hit by a car at 6 months old. They had to take her right rear leg off. When it healed, she went on just as if nothing had happened. We had a fence and she could no longer jump it, but she certainly could hook that single back leg into the fence squares and CLIMB the fence. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- Is it necessary to buy the citric activator or can apple cider vinegar be used? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hey Doug. I always heard it was a virus. There are many sites that say virus--though maybe they are all just quoting one wrong source? In any case, ringworm is easy to get rid of, and if a person is in good health, just goes away by itself. I always figured it was from a virus because of that--I never heard of fungus just going away. But--in any case, MMS or CS or any strong herbs seem to work on it. Samala, -------Original Message------- I have never read that ringworm was a virus. It is always listed as a fungus. I think you better recheck your references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Ringworm is a dermatophyte infection which is fungi. From Medline: "Ringworm is a skin infection caused by a fungus. Ringworm can affect skin on your body (tinea corporis), scalp (tinea capitis), groin area (tinea cruris, also called jock itch), or feet (tinea pedis, also called athlete's foot)." doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 , Would you send me a webpage that says it is a virus? I would like to read that! My experience is exactly the opposite of yours. Most viral infections are much longer lasting than a fungi infection in my experience. One reason why viruses are so hard to treat is that common anti-biotics have no affect on them, so mostly, they have to go the course without treatment. On the other hand, fungi is easily treated and can be shortened significantly. doug Re: [ ] MMS and Fungus Hey Doug. I always heard it was a virus. There are many sites that say virus--though maybe they are all just quoting one wrong source? In any case, ringworm is easy to get rid of, and if a person is in good health, just goes away by itself. I always figured it was from a virus because of that--I never heard of fungus just going away. But--in any case, MMS or CS or any strong herbs seem to work on it. Samala, -------Original Message------- I have never read that ringworm was a virus. It is always listed as a fungus. I think you better recheck your references. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 One last comment. I do notice online that there was apparently a "ringworm" COMPUTER VIRUS (usp10.dll cat ringworm virus” (also known as crow), . Maybe that is what you are reading?? I have yet to find any creditable medical online authority declaring the medical form of ringworm a virus. doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Hey Doug. I just googled and most every place says fungus. But my vet had told me virus, and here's a couple that say virus too--though they are not specifically "medical" sites. http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/symptoms-of-ringworm/ http://www.carelittle.com/pet-care/t-0776.html This one sounds like people are just mixing up the words virus and fungus So I guess it is a fungus. I've learned something. :-) But for us, virus is easy to get rid of. I guess maybe it depends on a person's immune system. And because the ringworm was so easy for us to clear--and none of the other animals in our house ever got it (though all her kittens did, which is where we got it--it never really showed up on her)--I assumed it actually was a virus, because you always hear such horror stories about how hard it is to get rid of fungus. People with athlete's feet just go on and on, and candida people--they never seem to get relief. We've never ever had a fungus problem, so all I can go by is what I read on lists, and it seems to be really hard to get rid of. Our ringworm went away in just 2-3 weeks, as did the kitten's. Interesting indeed. Still, for any of this--virus or fungus, I'd give MMS a go, even though MMS is not as effective against fungus as it is virus and bacteria. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- My experience is exactly the opposite of yours. Most viral infections are much longer lasting than a fungi infection in my experience. One reason why viruses are so hard to treat is that common anti-biotics have no affect on them, so mostly, they have to go the course without treatment. On the other hand, fungi is easily treated and can be shortened significantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2009 Report Share Posted July 31, 2009 Thank you all for your input. I've dipped Sophie a couple of times in lime sulfur (from vet) Ringworm shows up in the dark under black light. It doesn't really go away well on its own. It is VERY contagious. Everytime Sophie's claws have penetrated my skin, I've gotten a new spot of ringworm. If I don't pay attention and I scratch the ringworm then scratch a bug bite, I get another spot of ringworm. It's very nasty stuff. Excruciatingly itchy. At this point, I'm willing to try ANYTHING I'll let you all know for sure if MMS works to clear it up for everyone. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 Is it possible that it is both? That is, it could exist as a virus at one time and a fungus at another? This is what has been indicated relative to cancer actually is... a pleomorphic form of candida. wrote: Hey Doug. I just googled and most every place says fungus. But my vet had told me virus, and here's a couple that say virus too--though they are not specifically "medical" sites. http://www.consultation.ayurvediccure.com/symptoms-of-ringworm/ http://www.carelittle.com/pet-care/t-0776.html This one sounds like people are just mixing up the words virus and fungus So I guess it is a fungus. I've learned something. :-) But for us, virus is easy to get rid of. I guess maybe it depends on a person's immune system. And because the ringworm was so easy for us to clear--and none of the other animals in our house ever got it (though all her kittens did, which is where we got it--it never really showed up on her)--I assumed it actually was a virus, because you always hear such horror stories about how hard it is to get rid of fungus. People with athlete's feet just go on and on, and candida people--they never seem to get relief. We've never ever had a fungus problem, so all I can go by is what I read on lists, and it seems to be really hard to get rid of. Our ringworm went away in just 2-3 weeks, as did the kitten's. Interesting indeed. Still, for any of this--virus or fungus, I'd give MMS a go, even though MMS is not as effective against fungus as it is virus and bacteria. :-) Samala, -------Original Message------- My experience is exactly the opposite of yours. Most viral infections are much longer lasting than a fungi infection in my experience. One reason why viruses are so hard to treat is that common anti-biotics have no affect on them, so mostly, they have to go the course without treatment. On the other hand, fungi is easily treated and can be shortened significantly. Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 <shrug> Hard to say. Most all the medical sites call it a fungus. My vet said virus--but maybe he was just thinking that it didn't matter what it was called. :-) Maybe it does turn. All I know is that unless your immune system is shot, it's very easy to get rid of, and usually goes away on it's own. That's the main reason I believed it to be a virus. Never having had a fungal infection, I've always read how hard they are to get rid of--that they keep just coming back. Ringworm doesn't. Once gone, it's gone, and it goes quickly without any help from us. Hardly seems like a fungus in that respect. Samala, -------Original Message------- Is it possible that it is both? That is, it could exist as a virus at one time and a fungus at another? This is what has been indicated relative to cancer actually is... a pleomorphic form of candida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 I would say that if it's very contagious in your household, then maybe you all need to boost your immune system. I'd also boost Sophie's. You may try applying the activated MMS (AMMS) and see if that helps. Let us know. Samala, -------Original Message------- I'll let you all know for sure if MMS works to clear it up for everyone. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2009 Report Share Posted August 1, 2009 > > Thank you all for your input. > > I've dipped Sophie a couple of times in lime sulfur (from > vet) Ringworm shows up in the dark under black light. > > It doesn't really go away well on its own. It is VERY > contagious. > > Everytime Sophie's claws have penetrated my skin, I've > gotten a new spot of ringworm. If I don't pay attention > and I scratch the ringworm then scratch a bug bite, I > get another spot of ringworm. It's very nasty stuff. > Excruciatingly itchy. > > At this point, I'm willing to try ANYTHING > > I'll let you all know for sure if MMS works to clear > it up for everyone. Thanks > I would fog your home as well. You must have it in the environment. Many dealing with mites morgellons have had success fogging their homes and cars.I would also read the laundry protocol. Good Luck http://www.expelproducts.com/index.html http://www.expelproducts.com/cats.html http://www.expelproducts.com/hotel.html http://www.expelproducts.com/property.html http://www.expelproducts.com/auto.html http://www.expelproducts.com/disinfect.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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