Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 >> I will be experimenting with using clay water (hydrated clay, with >> lots of extra water) in the ears - I'm just going to fill the ear >> opening up and let it sit there for 10 or 15 minutes (adjusting the >> time if necessary) - to see if I can speed up getting the crap out >> while lessening the oozing/weeping/scabbing... I'll also be >> applying thick hydrated clay (like a facial mask) to the outside of >> my head and around and on the outside of my ears. > I hope someone can correct me if I'm " all wet " , but the thought of > leaving ANY watery solution in ears is making me very nervous. Oil, > yes H2O2, yes What do you think is in the other 97% of 3% H2O2? > I love clay, and applaud your idea of using it around your head and > ears. > > But water can be very difficult to thoroughly remove/dry from the > ears, thus leaving a real happy hunting ground for fungi. I understand your trepidation... but this is an experiment. I'm also concerned about the drying effect the clay may have... > I'm willing to learn if the fact that the clay is in the water will > mitigate this effect. Until I'm convinced, though, you couldn't pay > me to put water in my ears. Did you think I was recommending that anyone else try this? Certainly I didn't say anything that could be misconstrued that way? > I've had (and may still have, on occasion), " fungal ears " . That > condition led me to getting a Plasmafire from Saul in the first > place. I'll find out soon enough... I'm really hoping that just drinking lots of it will do most of the work - and maybe I'll just have to apply the clay topically at night - I think I'll modify my plan to not do the clay-charcoal-water *inside* the ear canal unless/until the topical application fails. I'll apply it topically all over the outside of the ears, and inside the outer ear opening. The main thing I want to do is eliminate the obvious, ugly/nasty looking rash/scabbing. I can tolerate pretty much anything else, as long as other people don't have to see what looks like gangrenous lumps on the side of my head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 > > Of course - but at the same time, there is no reason to stretch the > process out for longer than is necessary, is there? > > And if there is a way to *reduce* the detox symptoms, thereby > *increasing* the amount of junk coming out - why on earth would you > *not* want to do that? > > > I am absolutely loving ear insufflating now. I don't know if it, > > or the piracetam, or the combination of both is working, but > > something is, and I'M LOV'N IT! My plan is to work up to 15 minutes > > daily (I have no desire to do it 3 times daily), > > If you're loving it, why not? Hi , Oxygen gives energy and detoxing saps it, but you already know that. Whatever way you want to do things, is fine by me. One can attack all at once, or can consistently chip away at their toxins. It's easy in the beginning, but when the going gets rough (and it will), the important thing, imo, is to find whatever works for you. One thing I've noticed is different methods of delivery results in different methods of detoxing. In some ways, I feel like a real novice. Most things I've learned by doing it the wrong way the first time. For the chronic ill, I wouldn't use the sauna until I addressed their adrenal fatigue first as well as doing other cleansings. Most of the detoxing is done through the skin with the sauna. As a woman, I favor vaginal insufflating because that cleasnes the lymphatic system so well, and I never experience detoxing with it. It just makes me feel good. What I am now starting to experience with the ear insufllating is more and more nauseousness. The thought of perhaps trying this 15 minutes 3 Xs daily right now is mordifying to me. It's like having the stomach flu without the cramping and without the vomiting. Without a doubt, I know this is the effects of the toxins being release, so I think whatever you can find that will help mop up those released toxins is a good thing. I actually went and drank some of your suggested charcoal hoping it would help. I still feel pretty ick, tho. Think I'll now try some ozonated water. So much for 'lov'n it.' lol Got to learn not to speak too soon! Whatever you find that helps, do it. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 > > Of course - but at the same time, there is no reason to stretch the > process out for longer than is necessary, is there? > > And if there is a way to *reduce* the detox symptoms, thereby > *increasing* the amount of junk coming out - why on earth would you > *not* want to do that? > > > I am absolutely loving ear insufflating now. I don't know if it, > > or the piracetam, or the combination of both is working, but > > something is, and I'M LOV'N IT! My plan is to work up to 15 minutes > > daily (I have no desire to do it 3 times daily), > > If you're loving it, why not? Hi , Oxygen gives energy and detoxing saps it, but you already know that. Whatever way you want to do things, is fine by me. One can attack all at once, or can consistently chip away at their toxins. It's easy in the beginning, but when the going gets rough (and it will), the important thing, imo, is to find whatever works for you. One thing I've noticed is different methods of delivery results in different methods of detoxing. In some ways, I feel like a real novice. Most things I've learned by doing it the wrong way the first time. For the chronic ill, I wouldn't use the sauna until I addressed their adrenal fatigue first as well as doing other cleansings. Most of the detoxing is done through the skin with the sauna. As a woman, I favor vaginal insufflating because that cleasnes the lymphatic system so well, and I never experience detoxing with it. It just makes me feel good. What I am now starting to experience with the ear insufllating is more and more nauseousness. The thought of perhaps trying this 15 minutes 3 Xs daily right now is mordifying to me. It's like having the stomach flu without the cramping and without the vomiting. Without a doubt, I know this is the effects of the toxins being release, so I think whatever you can find that will help mop up those released toxins is a good thing. I actually went and drank some of your suggested charcoal hoping it would help. I still feel pretty ick, tho. Think I'll now try some ozonated water. So much for 'lov'n it.' lol Got to learn not to speak too soon! Whatever you find that helps, do it. Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2007 Report Share Posted July 30, 2007 From: " Marcus " <tanstaafl@...> >> I hope someone can correct me if I'm " all wet " , but the thought of >> leaving ANY watery solution in ears is making me very nervous. Oil, >> yes H2O2, yes > > What do you think is in the other 97% of 3% H2O2? Good point. My thinking was that the antimicrobial action of the H2O2 would be protective against any effects of the moisture > >> I'm willing to learn if the fact that the clay is in the water will >> mitigate this effect. Until I'm convinced, though, you couldn't pay >> me to put water in my ears. > > Did you think I was recommending that anyone else try this? Certainly I > didn't say anything that could be misconstrued that way? Absolutely understood that this was " your baby " . I was just registering my 'fear'. > I'll find out soon enough... I'm really hoping that just drinking lots > of it will do most of the work - and maybe I'll just have to apply the > clay topically at night - I think I'll modify my plan to not do the > clay-charcoal-water *inside* the ear canal unless/until the topical > application fails. I'll apply it topically all over the outside of the > ears, and inside the outer ear opening. I'm am *really* interested in the results of your experiment. Everyone else has a good learning opportunity with this. Thanks, ! Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 > Also I would like to try combining the two together. > What is the best way to do that? Put one of each > scoby into the brewing jar or just mix 1/2 and 1/2 of > the KT added? Or both? The most common way to make a hybrid culture is to create a new scoby from equal parts of cultured KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 > Also I would like to try combining the two together. > What is the best way to do that? Put one of each > scoby into the brewing jar or just mix 1/2 and 1/2 of > the KT added? Or both? The most common way to make a hybrid culture is to create a new scoby from equal parts of cultured KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 > Also I would like to try combining the two together. > What is the best way to do that? Put one of each > scoby into the brewing jar or just mix 1/2 and 1/2 of > the KT added? Or both? The most common way to make a hybrid culture is to create a new scoby from equal parts of cultured KT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Okay, Thank You --- Beckman <sehrgut@...> wrote: > The most common way to make a hybrid culture is to > create a new scoby > from equal parts of cultured KT. ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 That would be Dr Marinkovich's studys about aquired fungal hypersensitivity's after an acute or long term exposer. Its very long I could send it to you off line? From: who <jeaninem660@...> Subject: [] wondering Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:40 AM has there been any studies done on these exposures consernong the level of immune dysfunction and people testing possitive to allergies vs. people who do not test possitive for allergies? I know there some thinking that a really high dose exposure can cause the allergies regardless of if your atopic or predisposed to get allergies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 yes, please and thank you very much K. > From: who <jeaninem660@...> > Subject: [] wondering > > Date: Thursday, August 7, 2008, 11:40 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > has there been any studies done on these exposures consernong the level > > of immune dysfunction and people testing possitive to allergies vs. > > people who do not test possitive for allergies? > > I know there some thinking that a really high dose exposure can cause > > the allergies regardless of if your atopic or predisposed to get > > allergies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 Hi Patty ~ Merry Christmas ~ Nice photos on facebook of your trip ! Vitiligo can be caused by auto-immune disorders and Hashi's is one of those Vitiligo: A Common Cause of Loss of Skin Pigment on MedicineNet.com , http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47420 The rash could be from many things. I get PMLE ( polymorphous light eruption) I also am sprayed with vitiligo... Ck this out and see if it fits..... Polymorphous Light Eruption: Overview - eMedicine http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1119686-overview Hope this helps some. Blessings ~ Dede**************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Patty ! I have been getting the sun rash for about 10-18 years, I dont remember. The last few times I got it It would cover my legs and I would get some areas on my trunk and arms and it would last for a long time. Before it started staying with me, it would come and go....like what you are saying.... it got progressively worse over the years. I get the lupus rash too.....its across my cheeks and nose.......I dont have to go in the sun to get it. You are welcome ~ D**************One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & icid=aolcom40vanity & ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hi Patty, I am sorry to hear you are not feeling so great, I feel bad for you after you have been so well. I cannot go in the sun anymore which is a shame as I love the sun. I hope the flare passes soon and you enjoy your Christmas. MERRY CHRISTMAS PATTY. Lots of love Sue xox On 12/24/08, glory2glory1401 <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: I'm wondering what is going on with me....have not felt so greatlately. In fact, since I got home from our cruise. It's almost likeI have a flare of some kind going on. I got lots of sun down in the Caribbean, and I discovered some sort of rash on my arms and legsafter spending a day sunning. It was weird...never have had it before. I looked up some info, and realized I have some vitiligo spots--likeI've seen on other implant victims. These are spots that just do not tan at all...they remain completely white, like they have lost theirpigment. It is common for those with autoimmune disease to have someof these spots, and thyroid disease is listed amongst those diseasesthat can be concurrent with vitiligo. I've had these spots for years since I got implants, and they are so small I don't worry about them.Until laying out in the sun.While I was sunning, I noticed that one of my white spots on my armhad an aura of red around it, and then a red rash followed that up my arm, small red spots that didn't itch or hurt...just THERE. It was sosmall that I didn't worry about it too much, but then I found some onmy legs and I was feeling rather icky.I'm in brain fog today, drat, and have had brain fog for the last few days. I'm not happy about any of it, and wonder if these rashes werea type of photosensitivity? That leads me to wonder about lupus andthe sun sensitivity women with lupus get....but I won't go there! I've been doing so well for so long. It just makes me realize how I walk a fine line sometimes.Hopefully this will pass soon. Have a Merry Christmas everyone. I am so thankful for so many thingsin my life, including my beautiful women friends. Love,Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hi Dede, How interesting....I have no idea if this was PMLE or not, but it sounds suspect in some ways. It was my first occurrence ever, if it was. What does your PMLE look like and how long does it last? Everything is gone..was gone for the most part the next day or two. I've seen many women with vitiligo after having implants. Just one more sign of autoimmunity going on. Thanks Dede! You're an encyclopedia! Patty > > Hi Patty ~ > Merry Christmas ~ Nice photos on facebook > of your trip ! > Vitiligo can be caused by auto-immune disorders > and Hashi's is one of those > Vitiligo: A Common Cause of Loss of Skin Pigment on MedicineNet.com , > http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=47420 > The rash could be from many things. I get PMLE ( polymorphous light eruption) > I also am sprayed with vitiligo... > Ck this out and see if it fits..... > Polymorphous Light Eruption: Overview - eMedicine > http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1119686-overview > Hope this helps some. > Blessings ~ > Dede > > > ************** > One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, > Gmail, and Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp & amp; > icid=aolcom40vanity & amp;ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 Hi Sue, Thanks for your note, you are sweet balm! I didn't know you had trouble going into the sun also....what happens? Do you get those rashes too? I've had a headache for two days now--the same one. I am doing my coffee enemas daily right now...I was eating all kinds of food on that cruise and I know much of it was probably the toxic variety! LOL It sure was good though. I had dessert every night. Shame on me. But, now I am paying for it. I am sure this flare will pass....I will just continue to do my detoxing regimes, and stay hopeful that better days are ahead. I read a book on Fasting recently by Jentezen lin and it's got me ready for a fast in the new year. That has always made a difference for me. How are you feeling Sue? Better I hope. So many of us have had thyroid issues, so if it turns out that you are having thyroid trouble right now, I wouldn't be surprised. Be sure to get a copy of your thyroid test results. Have you been tested in the past for thyroid issues? If you have those results as well, you can compare the two to see if things have changed in any direction for you. This kind of testing comparison is so helpful. Merry Christmas to you too, Sue. Be blessed and may your home be filled with love and joy. Hugs, Patty > > > > I'm wondering what is going on with me....have not felt so great > > lately. In fact, since I got home from our cruise. It's almost like > > I have a flare of some kind going on. I got lots of sun down in the > > Caribbean, and I discovered some sort of rash on my arms and legs > > after spending a day sunning. It was weird...never have had it before. > > > > I looked up some info, and realized I have some vitiligo spots--like > > I've seen on other implant victims. These are spots that just do not > > tan at all...they remain completely white, like they have lost their > > pigment. It is common for those with autoimmune disease to have some > > of these spots, and thyroid disease is listed amongst those diseases > > that can be concurrent with vitiligo. I've had these spots for years > > since I got implants, and they are so small I don't worry about them. > > Until laying out in the sun. > > > > While I was sunning, I noticed that one of my white spots on my arm > > had an aura of red around it, and then a red rash followed that up my > > arm, small red spots that didn't itch or hurt...just THERE. It was so > > small that I didn't worry about it too much, but then I found some on > > my legs and I was feeling rather icky. > > > > I'm in brain fog today, drat, and have had brain fog for the last few > > days. I'm not happy about any of it, and wonder if these rashes were > > a type of photosensitivity? That leads me to wonder about lupus and > > the sun sensitivity women with lupus get....but I won't go there! > > I've been doing so well for so long. > > > > It just makes me realize how I walk a fine line sometimes. > > Hopefully this will pass soon. > > Have a Merry Christmas everyone. I am so thankful for so many things > > in my life, including my beautiful women friends. > > Love, > > Patty > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hello All, When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think several tried and then eventually quit. Any comments? Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 So folks, does this mean a " no " to my questions or just a no response. <chuckle>. Does ANYBODY do the suggested daily 6 (MMS) drops for maintenance? TIA, Gail --- In , " wanda85929 " <wanda85929@...> wrote: > > Hello All, > > When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think several tried and then eventually quit. > > Any comments? > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Gail same here. The site was boiling with post from people who enthusiastically took it and I repeatedly asked whether someone had addressed a specific issue other than Ï feel better " , " it improved... " . Never got an answer. Add this to the fact that despite about everybody parroting that Jim healed 75000 people of malaria Jim never proved that. --- In , " wanda85929 " <wanda85929@...> wrote: > > Hello All, > > When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think several tried and then eventually quit. > > Any comments? > > Gail > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 On 10/1/2009, johnmagal (johnmagal@...) wrote: > Gail same here. The site was boiling with post from people who > enthusiastically took it and I repeatedly asked whether someone had > addressed a specific issue other than Ï feel better " , " it > improved... " . Never got an answer. Add this to the fact that despite > about everybody parroting that Jim healed 75000 people of malaria Jim > never proved that. What is it with people who seem to want absolute proof of this or that... you'll never get it for natural remedies, unless/until the Medical/Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex is eradicated. (Gail, this wasn't aimed at you, you just asked a question, and a good one, the responses to which I'd be intereste in as well) If Jim was making gobs of money selling MMS, I'd be much more suspicious of his claims - but he isn't, he is living in third world countries, working to heal sick people (who might otherwise die in misery) with MMS, and occasionally sharing what he has learned. He doesn't know everything... on the contrary, DaddyBob just discovered that some of the calcium hypochlorite based pool shocks do indeed have extra ingredients you don't want to ingest... but so what? Anyone who would ingest something like this without doing a little investigating on their own gets what they deserve. I have an idea... why don't you try it for yourself, then come tell us how it worked for you? Often when people are cured from natural remedies, they move on with their lives (ie, disappear from the email lists they were on to discuss the problem, etc), they don't turn evangelical - sad, but true. I have been delaying taking it (MMS1) for reasons of my own, but I know people who have who swear by it - and sorry, no, I won't give you their names, addresses and/or phone numbers or provide sworn affidavits. MMS2 seems to have even more promise. Just fyi, I'll be embarking on an MMS1/MMS2 regimen soon, and will be happy to report what it does for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I agree with you, believe it or not I just got off the phone with one of Jim's assistants. I'm willing to try anything to get rid of HIV. I never understood why people who have been "cured" don't come forward. If I get rid of this I plan to shout it out in the streets! But there is a BS LAW that states you can't call anything a cure unless it was manufactured by a pharmaceutical company. There is a guy in doing prison time because he said he cured an illness from eating bananas. Bananas are a natural food with no proven healing powers. So that got him in trouble, as for success stories there's so much liability. The way he put it is if it works for someone it doesn't mean it can also work for you, what it that person still dies.> Gail same here. The site was boiling with post from people who > enthusiastically took it and I repeatedly asked whether someone had > addressed a specific issue other than Ï feel better", "it > improved..." . Never got an answer. Add this to the fact that despite> about everybody parroting that Jim healed 75000 people of malaria Jim> never proved that.What is it with people who seem to want absolute proof of this orthat... you'll never get it for natural remedies, unless/until theMedical/Pharmaceuti cal Industrial Complex is eradicated.(Gail, this wasn't aimed at you, you just asked a question, and a goodone, the responses to which I'd be intereste in as well)If Jim was making gobs of money selling MMS, I'd be much more suspiciousof his claims - but he isn't, he is living in third world countries,working to heal sick people (who might otherwise die in misery) withMMS, and occasionally sharing what he has learned. He doesn't knoweverything.. . on the contrary, DaddyBob just discovered that some of thecalcium hypochlorite based pool shocks do indeed have extra ingredientsyou don't want to ingest... but so what? Anyone who would ingestsomething like this without doing a little investigating on their owngets what they deserve.I have an idea... why don't you try it for yourself, then come tell ushow it worked for you?Often when people are cured from natural remedies, they move on withtheir lives (ie, disappear from the email lists they were on to discussthe problem, etc), they don't turn evangelical - sad, but true.I have been delaying taking it (MMS1) for reasons of my own, but I knowpeople who have who swear by it - and sorry, no, I won't give you theirnames, addresses and/or phone numbers or provide sworn affidavits.MMS2 seems to have even more promise.Just fyi, I'll be embarking on an MMS1/MMS2 regimen soon, and will behappy to report what it does for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 On 10/1/2009, Don (donjuan69uni@...) wrote: > But there is a BS LAW that states you can't call anything a cure > unless it was manufactured by a pharmaceutical company. There is a > guy in doing prison time because he said he cured an illness from > eating bananas. Yeah, never use the word cure, use the word 'heal'... but of course that doesn't mean they won't still come after you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I have tried it. As the saying goes, " the proof IS in the pudding. " My story, for those that don't know me: Treating myself for CFS/fibromyalgia. Had it for 21 years. Have tried multiple of things which helped but didn't cured. I liked the MMS because it gave me much needed energy, but it also seemed to make my heart race out of control, even when I started taking heart friendly supplements. But what made me have to stop the drops was the intense rashing it caused with only 1 drop! Same thing with ozone. Recently, I ran across a Dr. St. Amand (an endocrinologist) out of California who thinks fibro might very well be a genetic defect in the renal area of the body causing the kidneys not to eliminate phosphate correctly and thus it is reabsorbed into the cells of the body causing the multiple of symptoms. He discovered a simple over the counter medicine guaifenesin allows the kidneys to release the excess phospate and thus improving the symptoms. He, himself, has fibro as well as some of his family members. According to him, you are born with it and (will often have symtomps in childhood but mild and can't really understand what exactly it is) you will die with the condition, BUT it can be controlled by taking the guai and avoiding the salicylates. I started the protocol 3 months ago. According to him, symptoms will increased (get worse) at first before noticing improvements and you have to avoid products that contain salicylates as it blocks the guai from working. For absolutely no particular reason whatsoever, I decided to again try the MMS drops. Been on them about 4-5 days and up to that amount of drops 2x daily. Have had some itching/tireness but not extreme rashing at all. Not like last time I tried it. So I'm wondering if it is becuase of the guai eliminating excess phosphate or if maybe the drops decrease in potency after 2 years. For whatever reason, I am not having the extreme reaction I had before with them. Maybe I just haven't been taking them long enough to start the rashing. Let's hope it doesn't make it's appearance this time. Then I got to thinking, well, hell's bell's, this list is a couple of years old surely there has to be some live testimonials from people who have used it long term and can contribute. So often we don't give enough time to be able to give a contrete testimonial. ly, I'm too lazy to search ALL of the archives, but just from my memory it seems like many started it and many stopped it as was in my case. I'm wondering if ANYBODY had long lasting results and do they do the 6 drops daily maintenance dose. Does even Jim Humble take a maintenance dosage? Surely, somebody out there has something to say in regard to this. Like I said, the list is a couple of years old already and that's plenty of time to have some kind of information regarding the effectiveness of the MMS from real live people here on the list who don't happen to be selling anything either. Also, I am aware of Daddybob's negative results with the drops. I am curious to know if he might have already had a tendency to some heart problems that the MMS drops aggravitated it, or if the drops themself caused his heart trouble. That's really an important issue. Remember I said I also had heart palpatiation when I first started the drops. Not the second time around. tho. But it as only been a very short time. For me the guai protocol seems to be the most promising as it just seems and feels like truth to me and would explain why many of the things I've tried didn't have lasting results. ANY kind of oxygen product is going to make you feel better, even exercising (if you are able), but do these various products heal anything is what I'd like to know? Oh, I don't fault anybody from making a living either. People seem to think $20 isn't very much, and it isn't. However, when multipied that by the world wide population that has access to the internet, it can make you a pretty good income. So what; who cares? It's not going to break anybody if they give it a try, BUT does it work? Does it do what is being claimed? IS there anybody out here that will give a yea or nay from their experience. Ofcourse, we already have Daddybob's 'nay' loud and clear. <smile> Personally, I would love to hear some 'yeas'! Gail > > Gail same here. The site was boiling with post from people who > > enthusiastically took it and I repeatedly asked whether someone had > > addressed a specific issue other than Ï feel better " , " it > > improved... " . Never got an answer. Add this to the fact that despite > > about everybody parroting that Jim healed 75000 people of malaria Jim > > never proved that. > > What is it with people who seem to want absolute proof of this or > that... you'll never get it for natural remedies, unless/until the > Medical/Pharmaceutical Industrial Complex is eradicated. > > (Gail, this wasn't aimed at you, you just asked a question, and a good > one, the responses to which I'd be intereste in as well) > > If Jim was making gobs of money selling MMS, I'd be much more suspicious > of his claims - but he isn't, he is living in third world countries, > working to heal sick people (who might otherwise die in misery) with > MMS, and occasionally sharing what he has learned. He doesn't know > everything... on the contrary, DaddyBob just discovered that some of the > calcium hypochlorite based pool shocks do indeed have extra ingredients > you don't want to ingest... but so what? Anyone who would ingest > something like this without doing a little investigating on their own > gets what they deserve. > > I have an idea... why don't you try it for yourself, then come tell us > how it worked for you? > > Often when people are cured from natural remedies, they move on with > their lives (ie, disappear from the email lists they were on to discuss > the problem, etc), they don't turn evangelical - sad, but true. > > I have been delaying taking it (MMS1) for reasons of my own, but I know > people who have who swear by it - and sorry, no, I won't give you their > names, addresses and/or phone numbers or provide sworn affidavits. > > MMS2 seems to have even more promise. > > Just fyi, I'll be embarking on an MMS1/MMS2 regimen soon, and will be > happy to report what it does for me... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Gail - yes I used it for Lyme and babs for 6 mos higher doses and then just take every so often for maintencne - I will never say cure b/c I don think MMS will go where there is no blood and Lyme will....but I was almost symptom free except for mercury issues. I went form bed ridden to riding horses again. I do not believe MMS does anything for mercury. But for my infections - heck yes ! On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:09 PM, wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote: Hello All, When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think several tried and then eventually quit. Any comments? Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Nic, Meredith very nice. May I ask how much and how often you take for maintenance? Also, did it mess up you mineral/electrolite balance, and if so, did you supplement? If so, how much and what did you take. Many thanks, Gail > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. > > That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) > > if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured > > whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think > > several tried and then eventually quit. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Gail > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I have no idea if it messed up my mineral eloctryte balance....haha. wasnt ever on my mind. I supplemented with anti oxidants every other day or away from MMS. Did lots of green juicing. I don remeber what I took for minerals - but not much as I recall. Magnesium probably, selenium?? Not sure. My highest dose of MMS was 30 drops which was way to much for me. I lowered to 15-2 every other day. Now I just do 10 or so every month or so....Im sure I still have bugs but just a manageable level so that i dont have major symptoms. I am not clear on how i handles yeast. I am going to try MMS2.On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 6:19 PM, wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote: Nic, Meredith very nice. May I ask how much and how often you take for maintenance? Also, did it mess up you mineral/electrolite balance, and if so, did you supplement? If so, how much and what did you take. Many thanks, Gail > > > > > > > Hello All, > > > > When we were first aware of MMS, most everybody just had to give it a try. > > That was quite a while ago. I'm wondering (haven't been following the list) > > if there is anybody who has been using the MMS from the beginning, cured > > whatever ailed them, and continue to use the drops to maintain? I think > > several tried and then eventually quit. > > > > Any comments? > > > > Gail > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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