Re: zeolite question

[Guest guest]

I had received reading information for quite some time on the NCD and because I get so many "products" coming at me being a trainer, I let it slide. About 3 weeks ago the company called me and asked me to test the product on our machines. I did so on both the SCIO and the Orion and was quite surprised by what I saw. Because this is a detoxer we have to watch how we interpret the results because it can stress the body a bit as it is cleaning it up. But, even so it also asked for it to be given and warned of toxicity being the culprit in it's reaction. (which is why it is used.) The other machine I use which is EXTREMELY complementary to the SCIO (allowing a bit more concise visuals for the clients) explains it's testing on organ specific and has shown amazing detox ability. In my case it seemed to be my missing link as it was telling me it had 100% decrease possibilities on my organs. I've never seen anything else test as this did accept another (non-multi marketing product) called Or-ion which also has the zeolite in it. I use both now. The NCD company has given me written permission to have this product installed into the SCIO for your testing ability and I plan to give this and the information to Bill in Mexico. (Remember I won't be teaching, just on vacation so say hi, you'll have to buzz my room though).

I have already asked the company about side effects and metals & carcinogens which is a bit strange to think of one of these products having this issue since it is exactly what it pulls out in its little webbed trap cells. If you want more information you can also contact me off-line, but yes this company is a multi-marketing. The Or-ion is not, and you are welcome to contact me regarding finding this and there ionic minerals too. By the way they test the highest of any multi-minerals/vitamins I've ever tested. I'll tell more on these soon.

Yours in Health,

Dr. Kathy

Zeolite question

My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand. There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are tested or certified free of toxic metals.

Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be carcinogenic.

Kelley

[Guest guest]

NCD by Waiora is one of the cleanest products I have seen in a long time. I have spent several hours with the scientists and the product is free of metals. Zeolite in a naturally occurring water based mineral. It forms when volcanic ash hits sea water. The unique thing about it is the cage like structure (imagine a wad of chicken wire). As it passes through the body it traps the heavy metals like mercury, cadmium, lead, and arsenic because they are large molecules. The other smaller molecules like calcium, zinc, iron etc. pass through. So as a chelator it does NOT strip the body of trace minerals. Waiora made the product safe for human consumption in Nov of last year. Prior to that time zeolite was marketed in industry--it has been around for a long time. It was used to spray over chernobile to absorb all the radioactivity. Another thing you should know about NCD is that it triggers gene p21 which interferes with the formation of viral particles. This means it prevents the formation of the virus that is likely underlying the cancer.

I have used this product for 6 months persosnally and in my clinic and find it phenomenal. If anyone wants more information, please contact me off line.

Lana J. Ford, Ph.D

Zeolite question

My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand. There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are tested or certified free of toxic metals.

Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be carcinogenic.

Kelley

[Guest guest]

>

> My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic

carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her

with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made

from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the

product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

>

> There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the

risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?

newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals

and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand.

There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are

tested or certified free of toxic metals.

>

> Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular

Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

>

> I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level

marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be

putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be

carcinogenic.

>

> Kelley

Hello,

want to tell you and all interested that there is no such thing as

metastatic cancer.

As we have all been told and believe, cancer does not spread, if it

did, we would be cancer screening all our blood supplies, it does

not jump from tissue to tissue, organ to organ. This is typical

human programming being told things and then we believe them!! sorry

folks, even to all of us who have been hit hard by ugly diseases,

even lost life to it,

CANCER DOES NOT SPREAD! The 3 layers of tissue of our biology all

behave differently during a disease,

it does not spread from tissue to tissue, or organ to organ,

When there is a new problem, a secondary problem, it is due to its

own cause,

yes, maybe related to the shock of the first diagnosis, but, believe

me, biology points out that it didn't jump from organ to organ,

CANCER DOESN'T SPREAD, but, unfortunatley, ignorance does(unless we

start to question authority and the information we've come to

believe, we are victims, and sadly, morons)

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kelley-

You have brought up something interesting w/ the NCD. I use this

product, not as regular as I should though. I have heard wonderful

things of it w/ helping w/ cancer. My question is could the QXCI

machine check if this product has heavy metals in it or not, it comes

in a liquid form so I'm not sure. I don't have a machine otherwise I

would check myself.

Kim

>

> My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic carcinoma.

One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her with

detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made from

zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the

product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

>

> There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the

risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?

newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals and

carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand. There is

no mention at the Waiora website that their products are tested or

certified free of toxic metals.

>

> Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular

Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

>

> I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level

marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be

putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be

carcinogenic.

>

> Kelley

>

[Guest guest]

Since last fall I have been using Natural Cellular Defense (NCD) and I have a number of clients taking it as well with outstanding results. I find it to be an excellent complement to the SCIO. It is beyond anything else I have come across in its effectiveness and ease of use in removing heavy metals and other toxins. I am writing to attempt to shine light on some of the confusion about NCD and Zeolites that is reflected in this thread. Natural Zeolite deposits contain all sorts of different mineral Zeolites. There are 49 different naturally ocurring Zeolites that are categorized into three families. One family is referred to as needle-like Zeolites. Another is called globular or cluster-like Zeolites. The

third family is the sheet-like form of Zeolites. Waiora, which is the company making NCD, produces it from a sheet-like form called clinoptilolite. This form has a lattice of cage-like structures which are negatively charged, making them effective at removing heavy metals and positively charged toxins from the body as well as at disrupting viral replication. Researching Zeolites in general on the Internet, one would expect to learn about toxins and heavy metals in association with Zeolites, because Zeolites are able to absorb them whether in Nature or in the body. Zeolites ingested in powdered form will absorb toxins and heavy metals in the gastrointestinal

tract but their benefit has been limited by the heavy metals and toxins they have already accumulated in Nature. The Zeolite molecule is so strong it must be heated at 900 degrees for five hours to attempt to break it. This has made it difficult to find a way to 'clean' the Zeolite molecules and make a product that is safe and effective for human consumption. In its patented activation process, Waiora has done just that. The developer of NCD found a way to bend the bars of the molecular cage and remove any heavy metals or other toxins that might have naturally been deposited in the Zeolite over its lifetime. The result of the activation process is a clean cage with a negative charge. NCD in liquid form is able to have effects both in the gastrointestinal tract and systemically. What makes NCD unique is the activation process described above. It is said that this activation process makes NCD 9 to 20 times more powerful than powdered Zeolites, and without the contaminants. A number of research projects are currently in process studying the effects on various populations with the aim of having them published in peer review journals by the end of this year. Feel free to contact me if you want additional information. Namaste' Sampson, MD www.lifegatewaiora.com kathy <kathyqx@...> wrote: I had received reading information for quite some time on the NCD and because I get so many "products" coming at me being a trainer, I let it slide. About 3 weeks ago the company called me and asked me to test the product on our machines. I did so on both the SCIO and the Orion and was quite surprised by what I saw. Because this is a detoxer we have to watch how we interpret the results because it can stress the body a bit as it is cleaning it up. But, even so it also asked for it to be given and

warned of toxicity being the culprit in it's reaction. (which is why it is used.) The other machine I use which is EXTREMELY complementary to the SCIO (allowing a bit more concise visuals for the clients) explains it's testing on organ specific and has shown amazing detox ability. In my case it seemed to be my missing link as it was telling me it had 100% decrease possibilities on my organs. I've never seen anything else test as this did accept another (non-multi marketing product) called Or-ion which also has the zeolite in it. I use both now. The NCD company has given me written permission to have this product installed into the SCIO for your testing ability and I plan to give this and the information to Bill in Mexico. (Remember I won't be teaching, just on vacation so say hi, you'll have to buzz my room though). I have already asked the company about side

effects and metals & carcinogens which is a bit strange to think of one of these products having this issue since it is exactly what it pulls out in its little webbed trap cells. If you want more information you can also contact me off-line, but yes this company is a multi-marketing. The Or-ion is not, and you are welcome to contact me regarding finding this and there ionic minerals too. By the way they test the highest of any multi-minerals/vitamins I've ever tested. I'll tell more on these soon. Yours in Health, Dr. Kathy Zeolite question My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand. There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are tested or certified free of toxic metals. Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular Defense in particular or zeolite in general? I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level marketing company. I am just

concerned that my sister-in-law may be putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be carcinogenic. Kelley

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[Guest guest]

I will soon know the generic name of the product which will save us

all a lot of money. Will share it just as soon as I get it.

is Rotella, M.Ac., CNC

> >

> > My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic

> carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her

> with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made

> from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the

> product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

> >

> > There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the

> risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?

> newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals

> and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand.

> There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are

> tested or certified free of toxic metals.

> >

> > Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular

> Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

> >

> > I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level

> marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be

> putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be

> carcinogenic.

> >

> > Kelley

>

> Hello,

> want to tell you and all interested that there is no such thing as

> metastatic cancer.

> As we have all been told and believe, cancer does not spread, if it

> did, we would be cancer screening all our blood supplies, it does

> not jump from tissue to tissue, organ to organ. This is typical

> human programming being told things and then we believe them!! sorry

> folks, even to all of us who have been hit hard by ugly diseases,

> even lost life to it,

> CANCER DOES NOT SPREAD! The 3 layers of tissue of our biology all

> behave differently during a disease,

> it does not spread from tissue to tissue, or organ to organ,

> When there is a new problem, a secondary problem, it is due to its

> own cause,

> yes, maybe related to the shock of the first diagnosis, but, believe

> me, biology points out that it didn't jump from organ to organ,

> CANCER DOESN'T SPREAD, but, unfortunatley, ignorance does(unless we

> start to question authority and the information we've come to

> believe, we are victims, and sadly, morons)

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ............................................

>

>

[Guest guest]

One more piece of information on this product, the core is aluminum and instead of dropping aluminum it attracts it and pulls it from the body....know anyone with Alzheimer's???? just a suggestion you might wish to try. Be careful starting when I did I did 10 drops 3 times a day (3 drops 3 times a day was to simple no side effects) I had some healing crisis (for 3 weeks...it works well !) If you have any other questions please contact me off-line, I don't want this into a selling event, but it does help a lot for our work.

By the way, I just gave Bill (Desi) a sample and letter from the company giving permission to put it into the test matrix.

Yours in Health,

Dr. Kathy

Zeolite question

My sister-in-law was recently diagnosed with metastatic carcinoma. One of her friends gave her a supplement to help her with detoxification called Natural Cellular Defense by Waiora made from zeolite (from volcanic lava) and water. Here is the link to the product http://www.waiora.com/products/item26000-NCD.php

There is an article at Medical News Today.com which discusses the risks of zeolite. http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=12050 Many products made from zeolite contain toxic metals and carcinogens. The article does not mention the Waiora brand. There is no mention at the Waiora website that their products are tested or certified free of toxic metals.

Does anyone on this list have experience with Natural Cellular Defense in particular or zeolite in general?

I do not have any financial connection with Waiora, a multi-level marketing company. I am just concerned that my sister-in-law may be putting herself at further risk by taking something that could be carcinogenic.

Kelley

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In a message dated 03/06/2006 21:02:50 GMT Daylight Time, awex@... writes:

Does anyone know if Zeolite would interfere with the effectiveness of medicines like anti-convulsants?

>>>The only thing I had read so far is not to give with certain chemo drugs. Forrist is here so hopefully he will fill you in if any probs but I've not heard of any

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 04/06/2006 09:22:44 GMT Daylight Time, awex@... writes:

Next question is:- When will NCD Zeolite be available from Mandimart, and how much will it cost?

>>>Hopefully within next few weeks, its on order.

I don't know how much it will cost until I get invoice, know how much postage is and whether those nasty people people at customs are going to wack duty on it......I hate those guys.

The cancer folks sell for £32.50 per pot so I working roughly from that price and will adjust when I know what I have paid. There are 300 drops per 15ml pot.

I'll let you know - will have Cellfood and transdermal R-Lipoic Acid also, been testing TD-RLA on Sam this week, looking good but need to work on dosage watch this space!

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Hi Mandi.

Forrist has said that " There should be no problem with any medicine

except lithium or a platinum based chemotherapy "

Next question is:- When will NCD Zeolite be available from Mandimart,

and how much will it cost?

Miles.

Mum231ASD@... wrote:

> In a message dated 03/06/2006 21:02:50 GMT Daylight Time,

> awex@... writes:

>

> Does anyone know if Zeolite would interfere with the effectiveness of

> medicines like anti-convulsants?

>

> >>>The only thing I had read so far is not to give with certain chemo

> drugs. Forrist is here so hopefully he will fill you in if any probs

> but I've not heard of any

>

> Mandi x

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical

> advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably

> qualified practitioner.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cellfood as well as NCD - great stuff!!

Any chance of getting any Virastop?????

Could you give some info on TD R-lipoic acid - how difference from

ALA (except that you rub it in!!) What is the 'R' bit about?

Bests

Gail

>

>

> In a message dated 04/06/2006 09:22:44 GMT Daylight Time,

awex@...

> writes:

>

> Next question is:- When will NCD Zeolite be available from

Mandimart,

> and how much will it cost?

>

>

>

> >>>Hopefully within next few weeks, its on order.

>

> I don't know how much it will cost until I get invoice, know how

much

> postage is and whether those nasty people people at customs are

going to wack duty

> on it......I hate those guys.

>

> The cancer folks sell for £32.50 per pot so I working roughly from

that

> price and will adjust when I know what I have paid. There are 300

drops per 15ml

> pot.

>

> I'll let you know - will have Cellfood and transdermal R-Lipoic

Acid also,

> been testing TD-RLA on Sam this week, looking good but need to

work on dosage

> watch this space!

>

> Mandi x

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Has anyone used this and had success? I heard that Cave,

MD

> was doing a study using NCD (zeolite) and I wanted to know if this

> study is completed yet? Any input will help. Trying to decide if I

> should continue using this product.

> Cori

>

we are using ncd during the week and ALA on the weekends so far so

good we are not due for testing yet but he has some pretty bad

smelling urine and stools which are starting to become solid so not

sure if it is lack of yeast that is causing the smell or metals

leaving. i have no evidence that the ncd isnt working or is harming so

will finish my bottles and tehn continue with ALA alone for some time

and determine from the symptoms. my oldest did not do well on ncd he

had some weird behaviours and was not himself which was not yeast and

i wasnt going through that with him as he is mostly recovered but for

little one things seem okay and it has been over a month. go with your

gut by what you see is my advice

[Guest guest]

-Hi, My son was in this study. It didn't do much at all, but make him

more emotional from time to time and worsed behaviors. IMO they upped

the dosage way too fast.

Sherry

-- In , " corij57 " <corijepson@...> wrote:

>

> Has anyone used this and had success? I heard that Cave,

MD

> was doing a study using NCD (zeolite) and I wanted to know if this

> study is completed yet? Any input will help. Trying to decide if I

> should continue using this product.

> Cori

>

[Guest guest]

any kind of chelation could remove minerals.

roger

From: Jill <datjat1@...>Subject: [ ] zeolite question Date: Thursday, March 19, 2009, 2:07 PM

Does anyone know if zeolite takes minerals out of the body along with the bad stuff? A few years ago I was drinking distilled water and found it was leaching minerals from my bones. I had a few breaks and long time healing. Now I drink only my own well water which has a lot of good minerals in it. Now I'm wondering about zeolite. I know I have heavy metals in my body but don't want to contribute to osteoporosis again.Thanks for any help.Jill

[Guest guest]

On 3/19/2009, Jill (datjat1@...) wrote:

> A few years ago I was drinking distilled water and found it was

> leaching minerals from my bones.

There is lots of room for debate on this issue. Dr Schulze believes that

it does indeed leech some minerals, but that the amount is easily

replaced as long as you get enough in your diet.

I agree with him. If you were to do a prolonged water only fast using

distilled water, you might have a problem, but as long as you get plenty

of minerals through your foods, you won't have a problem.

> Now I drink only my own well water which has a lot of good

> minerals in it.

Most minerals in water are unusable by the body. They need to be

chelated to be usable, which is why they need to come from food sources.

> Now I'm wondering about zeolite. I know I have heavy metals in my

> body but don't want to contribute to osteoporosis again.

No worries, zeolite does NOT leech minerals.

Just be sure you are getting enough high quality minerals. Dr Schulzes

potassium broth is one good way... personally I prefer my Fulvic Acid

minerals from Vital Earth.

[Guest guest]

It takes out HEAVY metals. No one knows for sure if you actually need

trace amounts of plant based heavy metals. Some believe that you do,

but there is nothing that I have read that suggests that zeolites

remove other than free heavy metals. If it did, my dog and I should be

dead or else, very sick by now. MSM will free heavy metals from body

fats and zeolites will bind with them so that they can be passed

harmlessly.

What are you supplementing for osteoporosis with? Not calcium, I hope.

Jill wrote:

Does anyone know if zeolite takes minerals out of the body along

with the bad stuff?

A few years ago I was drinking distilled water and found it was

leaching minerals from my bones. I had a few breaks and long time

healing. Now I drink only my own well water which has a lot of good

minerals in it. Now I'm wondering about zeolite. I know I have heavy

metals in my body but don't want to contribute to osteoporosis again.

Thanks for any help.

Jill

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[Guest guest]

No not calcium. I use transdermal magnesium. Any suggestions?

Jill

[Guest guest]

For all of us beef lovers, besides heavy metals synthetic estrogens are also

locked up in the liver. My hubby has been a veggie for over 12 years and he

still has synthetic estrogens in his liver. Is there anything known to remove

the synthetic estrogens?

best,

Colleen

>

> > Does anyone know if zeolite takes minerals out of the body along with

> > the bad stuff?

> >

> > A few years ago I was drinking distilled water and found it was

> > leaching minerals from my bones. I had a few breaks and long time

> > healing. Now I drink only my own well water which has a lot of good

> > minerals in it. Now I'm wondering about zeolite. I know I have heavy

> > metals in my body but don't want to contribute to osteoporosis again.

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

> >

> > Jill

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You are doing it correctly. Glad to hear it. :-)

Jill wrote:

No not calcium. I use transdermal magnesium. Any suggestions?

Jill

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