Re: Re: If MMS worked then why.....Coffee Enemas

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so taking milk thistle and doing colon cleanses doens't work as well as coffee enemas? just want to make sure as i have tried so much w/out results and this seems like a more difficult procedure. how often is it done to potentially see symptom relief? even the colon cleanses one cant do all the time, not sure how often is recommended. but i feel like the MMS is making me go to the bathroom more than usual, so you'd think some of the toxins are being released that way and on top i take milk thistle. my body doesnt sweat so cant remove toxins that way. i would be so happy to be able to sweat again and everything else that's wrong. I'm nauseues and the MMS hasnt helped but made the exisiting problem worse despite going slow. i cant stand the dryness of my eyes, mouth etc... even worse than usual, but i will keep doing the MMS and hope for the best. i

guess i lose hope when i read people allegedly recovering from disease in 1 day with MMS, seems a bit much no? seems like quite the claim anyway, im on it much longer than a day and not quite such results.

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Vicki,Have you tried using the MMS transdermally. That way you avoid the digestive tract altogether. I would also reccomend using probiotics while on the MMS especially if you are having loose stools. Because along with the toxins you expel, you also are loosing good bacteria.On Dec 14, 2008, at 4:05 PM, Vicki wrote:so taking milk thistle and doing colon cleanses doens't work as well as coffee enemas? just want to make sure as i have tried so much w/out results and this seems like a more difficult procedure. how often is it done to potentially see symptom relief? even the colon cleanses one cant do all the time, not sure how often is recommended. but i feel like the MMS is making me go to the bathroom more than usual, so you'd think some of the toxins are being released that way and on top i take milk thistle. my body doesnt sweat so cant remove toxins that way. i would be so happy to be able to sweat again and everything else that's wrong. I'm nauseues and the MMS hasnt helped but made the exisiting problem worse despite going slow. i cant stand the dryness of my eyes, mouth etc... even worse than usual, but i will keep doing the MMS and hope for the best. i guess i lose hope when i read people allegedly recovering from disease in 1 day with MMS, seems a bit much no? seems like quite the claim anyway, im on it much longer than a day and not quite such results.

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Hi ,

I take a probiotic daily for a long time now. I always wondered if taking MMS transdermally was as effective as orally? Is that how you do it? Where is it put and how much? I am normally constipated, so for now I can handle the loose stools, they aren't very extreme, the stomach hurts though. And you wonder if a multi is enough to make up for the minerals being killed and other potentially good stuff.

so taking milk thistle and doing colon cleanses doens't work as well as coffee enemas? just want to make sure as i have tried so much w/out results and this seems like a more difficult procedure. how often is it done to potentially see symptom relief? even the colon cleanses one cant do all the time, not sure how often is recommended. but i feel like the MMS is making me go to the bathroom more than usual, so you'd think some of the toxins are being released that way and on top i take milk thistle. my body doesnt sweat so cant remove toxins that way. i would be so happy to be able to sweat again and everything else that's wrong. I'm nauseues and the MMS hasnt helped but made the exisiting problem worse despite going slow. i cant stand the dryness of my eyes, mouth etc... even worse than usual, but i will keep doing the MMS and hope for the best. i guess i lose hope when i read people allegedly recovering from disease in 1 day with MMS, seems a

bit much no? seems like quite the claim anyway, im on it much longer than a day and not quite such results.

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On 12/15/2008, Sauve (moniquesauve@...) wrote:

> have you tried an infrared sauna? i don't normally sweat but in that

> thing boy do i ever. takes longer for me to work up a good sweat than

> my hubby but in that thing i can.

If you are unable to swat, you have serious problems... that should be a

primary symptom that you are trying to solve... once you do, I imagine a

whole host of other problems will just magically resolve themselves too...

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Vicki,Yes, I use it transdermally with a DMSO aloe based cream. The MMS had started to rip up my stomach. I believe I was getting an ulcer from it. It was also causing an overgrowth of yeast as I went up in drops. Using it transdermally has helped both problems and has been just as effective.On Dec 14, 2008, at 6:19 PM, Vicki wrote:Hi ,I take a probiotic daily for a long time now. I always wondered if taking MMS transdermally was as effective as orally? Is that how you do it? Where is it put and how much? I am normally constipated, so for now I can handle the loose stools, they aren't very extreme, the stomach hurts though. And you wonder if a multi is enough to make up for the minerals being killed and other potentially good stuff.From: Siegel <ssiegel5@...>Subject: Re: [ ] Re: If MMS worked then why.....Coffee Enemas Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 2:30 PMVicki,Have you tried using the MMS transdermally. That way you avoid the digestive tract altogether. I would also reccomend using probiotics while on the MMS especially if you are having loose stools. Because along with the toxins you expel, you also are loosing good bacteria.

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On 12/15/2008, Siegel (ssiegel5@...) wrote:

> Using it transdermally has helped both problems and has been just as

effective.

Just curious... how do you know it is just as effective?

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Because I herx from it.--

On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:24 PM, Simon wrote:

> On 12/15/2008, Siegel (ssiegel5@...) wrote:

>> Using it transdermally has helped both problems and has been just

>> as effective.

>

> Just curious... how do you know it is just as effective?

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Thanks Gail. Where do you buy the supplies needed for the enema once you have the coffee?

I do the juicing daily but will continue.

Its hard because one protocol says take baking soda and check your PH, another says take baking soda and maple syrup. There is the Vit C and salt protocol, the MMS protocol and now this one that says to increase potassium and reduce sodium. How does one know what to do.

>> so taking milk thistle and doing colon cleanses doens't work as well as coffee enemas? just want to make sure as i have tried so much w/out results and this seems like a more difficult procedure. how often is it done to potentially see symptom relief? even the colon cleanses one cant do all the time, not sure how often is recommended. but i

feel like the MMS is making me go to the bathroom more than usual, so you'd think some of the toxins are being released that way and on top i take milk thistle. my body doesnt sweat so cant remove toxins that way. i would be so happy to be able to sweat again and everything else that's wrong. I'm nauseues and the MMS hasnt helped but made the exisiting problem worse despite going slow. i cant stand the dryness of my eyes, mouth etc... even worse than usual, but i will keep doing the MMS and hope for the best. i guess i lose hope when i read people allegedly recovering from disease in 1 day with MMS, seems a bit much> no? seems like quite the claim anyway, im on it much longer than a day and not quite such results.>

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can you provide a link or explain the procedure for doing MMS transdermal with DMSO

Re: [ ] Re: If MMS worked then why.....Coffee Enemas Date: Sunday, December 14, 2008, 2:30 PM

Vicki,

Have you tried using the MMS transdermally. That way you avoid the digestive tract altogether. I would also reccomend using probiotics while on the MMS especially if you are having loose stools. Because along with the toxins you expel, you also are loosing good bacteria.

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Here is the link that got people started with it: http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.htmlThese are instructions if you have cancer. You are supposed to dose every 2 hours. You can modify it for your needs. I activate it the normal way then mix with the DMSO cream and spread on clean, dry skin. Alternating areas of the body is wise as the MMS can cause skin irritation. Using the MSM spray afterwards probably helps avoid this problem. I apply only once at night as I also use other things to treat during the day.If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Many people have begun to use it this way and can help answer questions.On Dec 15, 2008, at 7:49 PM, michel nadon wrote: can you provide a link or explain the procedure for doing MMS transdermal with DMSO

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On 12/15/2008, Siegel (ssiegel5@...) wrote:

> Here is the link that got people started with it:

> http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

>

> These are instructions if you have cancer. You are supposed to dose

> every 2 hours. You can modify it for your needs. I activate it the

> normal way then mix with the DMSO cream and spread on clean, dry

> skin. Alternating areas of the body is wise as the MMS can cause

> skin irritation.

You guys don't listen...

THEY NO LONGER RECOMMEND USING MMS TRANSDERMALLY. I imagine there is a

good reason for that.

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I don't care what " they " recommend! I have found a a way to continue

using MMS without causing an ulcer and killing all my good bacteria.

It still works and i only use it 1x/day.

When my daughter got a virus this weekend with a high fever I dosed

her transdermally 3x/day and her fever broke right away. It was like

a miracle cure.

On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:22 PM, Simon wrote:

> On 12/15/2008, Siegel (ssiegel5@...) wrote:

>> Here is the link that got people started with it:

>> http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

>>

>> These are instructions if you have cancer. You are supposed to dose

>> every 2 hours. You can modify it for your needs. I activate it the

>> normal way then mix with the DMSO cream and spread on clean, dry

>> skin. Alternating areas of the body is wise as the MMS can cause

>> skin irritation.

>

> You guys don't listen...

>

> THEY NO LONGER RECOMMEND USING MMS TRANSDERMALLY. I imagine there is a

> good reason for that.

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On 12/16/2008 7:17 AM, Siegel wrote:

> I don't care what " they " recommend!

And I don't care what you choose to do or not do. My point was your

reference to the OCC page as support for using MMS transdermally was in

error, since they no longer recommend doing this.

> I have found a a way to continue using MMS without causing an ulcer

> and killing all my good bacteria. It still works and i only use it

> 1x/day.

MMS taken orally doesn't cause ulcers or kill all of your good bacteria

- unless maybe you are not following instructions...

> When my daughter got a virus this weekend with a high fever I dosed

> her transdermally 3x/day and her fever broke right away. It was like

> a miracle cure.

Interesting... but I've gotten similar results using H2O2 in the ears,

or taking a large quantity of CS, GSE, or olive leaf extract, etc, so

this kind of result is not unique to MMS...

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I got a new computer and forgot to block you, Simon. This is the only

post of yours i will respond to.

I posted the information from that site to a member interested in

learning about transdermal use of MMS. She can use that information

as she sees fit, just as i choose to do. Just because they do not

endorse this particular method of using MMS does not negate the fact

this it is still an effective method of administration for those with

stomach issues. I will not let you or anyone else tell me how to

treat myself or my family. That is why i do not go to doctors. If i

wanted to be bullied i would see a doctor.

My experience with MMS has proven to me that it does indeed kill good

bacteria. I have been using it for over a year now and have become

pretty adept at reading my body and determining what is doing what for

me personally. Even Jim HUmble recommends using Living Streams

probiotic with it.

It was indeed causing an ulcer in my upper Gi tract. Every time i

would ingest it, i would experience severe pain. Upon discontinuing

the MMS, it eventually healed and the pain went away.

No that kind of result is not unique to MMS. That is just the method

i used for my ill daughter at the time, simply illustrating the fact

that transdermal use of MMS is effective (as she refuses to swallow

pills and this was the easiest remedy at the time). It may also be

useful information for others interested in trying this when they get

sick.

Your aggressive, know-it-all attitude is very off putting. Please do

not respond to my posts in the future.

Thank you,

On Dec 16, 2008, at 7:26 AM, Simon wrote:

> On 12/16/2008 7:17 AM, Siegel wrote:

>> I don't care what " they " recommend!

>

> And I don't care what you choose to do or not do. My point was your

> reference to the OCC page as support for using MMS transdermally was

> in

> error, since they no longer recommend doing this.

>

>> I have found a a way to continue using MMS without causing an ulcer

>> and killing all my good bacteria. It still works and i only use it

>> 1x/day.

>

> MMS taken orally doesn't cause ulcers or kill all of your good

> bacteria

> - unless maybe you are not following instructions...

>

>> When my daughter got a virus this weekend with a high fever I dosed

>> her transdermally 3x/day and her fever broke right away. It was like

>> a miracle cure.

>

> Interesting... but I've gotten similar results using H2O2 in the ears,

> or taking a large quantity of CS, GSE, or olive leaf extract, etc, so

> this kind of result is not unique to MMS...

>

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(vicki will never see this because she has me SO blocked) but i found enema

bags aren't available any more at the big chain drug stores. i found one

locally for about $13 at a small independant drug store, but also saw

they're plentiful on ebay where shipping adds a lot to the cost but there's

apparently better quality available also if you want to spend the $.

Re: [ ] Re: If MMS worked then

why.....Coffee Enemas

Thanks Gail. Where do you buy the supplies needed for the enema once you

have the coffee?

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On 12/16/2008 8:52 AM, Siegel wrote:

> I posted the information from that site to a member interested in

> learning about transdermal use of MMS.

Ok, I apologize , I was wrong.

I discovered this because Bob said I was wrong (instead of just

complaining about my writing style), so I went and read the entire page

instead of stopping where it said:

" First, the DMSO is taken by itself. In other words, nothing is mixed

with the DMSO. This means the chlorine dioxide must be taken orally. "

And lo and behold, there almost at the very bottom, it does talk about

people who don't like taking MMS orally.

Thanks for the correction, Bob...

> I will not let you or anyone else tell me how to treat myself or my

> family. That is why i do not go to doctors. If i wanted to be bullied

> i would see a doctor.

, take a chill pill... where did I say anything even remotely like

telling you how to treat yourself?

> My experience with MMS has proven to me that it does indeed kill good

> bacteria. I have been using it for over a year now and have become

> pretty adept at reading my body and determining what is doing what for

> me personally. Even Jim HUmble recommends using Living Streams

> probiotic with it.

I didn't say it didn't kill *any* good bacteria, I said it didn't kill

*all* of them.

If you're going to complain about what I say, at least try to get what I

said right.

> It was indeed causing an ulcer in my upper Gi tract. Every time i

> would ingest it, i would experience severe pain. Upon discontinuing

> the MMS, it eventually healed and the pain went away.

Sounds more like you already HAD an ulcer, and it merely exacerbated it,

but maybe your stomach lining is especially weak...

> Your aggressive, know-it-all attitude is very off putting.

Only to people who are easily offended and/or have very thin skin...

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On 12/16/2008, Artielle (tlhough@...) wrote:

> Hi, don't mean to interrupt an on going conversation, but can someone

> tell me what is OCC? Thanks, Artielle

Overnight Cancer Cure

All you had to do was click the link provided:

http://www.new-cancer-treatments.org/Cancer/OCC.html

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how DARE you thank ME... you are SOOOO blocked!!!! (not -heh heh)

> -----Original Message-----

>

> Thanks for the correction, Bob...

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On 12/16/2008, bob Larson (bobList@...) wrote:

> how DARE you thank ME... you are SOOOO blocked!!!! (not -heh heh)

lol! now Bob, you should be more thoughtful of the people that might

take offense to a little fun aimed in their direction...

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You are doing exactly what she said she disliked! That is an aggressive

know-it-all attitude reply! Try to look at your post objectively!

>

> > Your aggressive, know-it-all attitude is very off putting.

>

> Only to people who are easily offended and/or have very thin skin...

>