Re: Hydrochloric Acid.....oh, gosh...moan...

[Guest guest]

You guys are so bright. I have NO IDEA what you are talking about.

I am finding I am reducing my MMS1 & MMS2 intake and usage because I am

constantly

having dizzy spells (NEVER have had anything like that before) and my

stomach is always

hurting. And taking baking soda all the time is just not wonderful.

Now, with all of your research and discoveries, please come down to my

level and put it all

in kindergarten terms. Am I supposed to now activate the MMS1 I will be

ingesting with the

Pool Shock???? And if so, as I understand it now, then just exactly

how much Pool Shock

should I use in ration to the MMS1????

Take me, please from the exact beginning and describe to me the exact

procedure I need to

follow for making it up. At this point I am so very hopelessly

confused.

Willow

> > I have some hydrochloric acid here that is 50%, and if you like I

can

> > try some experimentation in mixing if there’s something you

want to

> > know.

>

> Wow... I'd say nasty might be an understatement. I did find the 36%

> online, but there were all kinds of warnings and hazmat shipping

> restrictions (ground only, no residential delivery, etc), so I just

> ordered the 10%. Since the 1:500 (which is only .06%) that I initially

> found is what Jim said would probably be too weak, I figured the 10%

> would be way overkill - but since you can only dilute (you can't get

> from a 1% to a 2%), you have to start with something stronger than you

need.

>

> I hesitate to suggest that you experiment, but if you are so inclined:

>

> All I'm trying to do is to find the equivalent activating strength of

> HCl as the 50% citric acid provides, so I can use it at a 1 to 1 ratio

> with MMS1.

>

> > If for some reason you had a mind for playing with this, please be

> > aware that adding water to acid, and acid to water, can get some

very

> > different results.

>

> Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me about this! I do

recall

> someone saying something about this somewhere, but had forgotten...

>

> So, which is it? When I get my 10%, and I want to dilute it, do I

slowly

> add the acid to the water (thats my guess) - or do I slowly add the

> water to the acid?

>

> A quick google found this, and it looks like I was right (whew):

>

> http://tiny.pl/hqkdf

>

> > I can’t emphasise enough how nasty this stuff is (even though

our body

> > somehow found the need and means to contain this it). Let me know

what

> > you want to try, and if I feel it’s not too life threatening

to take one

> > for the team then I’ll do the experiments and report back.

>

> Well, I've already ordered the 10%, and it shouldn't be quite as nasty

> as the 50%, so I'm ok with doing this myself, unless there is more to

it

> than it seems now?

>

> As long as I'm very careful, do you think I need to worry about gloves

> or ventilation while diluting starting with a 10% solution?

>

> One last question - I'm assuming that with this 10% solution, the

other

> 90% is simply purified water? No 'stabilizers' or other crap that

might

> be toxic even in small amounts?

>

> Thanks , it is appreciated...

>

[Guest guest]

On 10/14/2009 3:33 PM, Willow wrote:

> I am finding I am reducing my MMS1 & MMS2 intake and usage because I

> am constantly having dizzy spells (NEVER have had anything like that

> before) and my stomach is always hurting.

Well, reducing is the right thing to do when you experience problems,

so, the only things I can think of to ask are:

1. how much are you taking now?

2. how often are you taking each?

and

3. What are you currently using as an activator for the MMS1?

Just a reminder - Jim has said that if you cannot work your way up

(drop-wise), and can't tolerate even very low doses of MMS1, the problem

is probably with the activator as opposed to the MMS itself. Apparently

it is more commonly a problem with citric acid or vinegar as the activator.

> Am I supposed to now activate the MMS1 I will be ingesting with the

> Pool Shock????

Not 'supposed to', no... Larry just indicated that thats what he was

doing. I'd be curious to see what Jim thought of that...

> And if so, as I understand it now, then just exactly how much Pool

> Shock should I use in ration to the MMS1????

Don't complicate it. Don't change anything except reducing the amount -

and maybe the frequency if you get down to one drop and are still

experiencing problems.

> I am so very hopelessly confused.

Sorry... not intended. Just don't worry about it.

[Guest guest]

Wow why do this?????

> > > I have some hydrochloric acid here that is 50%, and if you like I

> can

> > > try some experimentation in mixing if there’s something you

> want to

> > > know.

> >

> > Wow... I'd say nasty might be an understatement. I did find the 36%

> > online, but there were all kinds of warnings and hazmat shipping

> > restrictions (ground only, no residential delivery, etc), so I just

> > ordered the 10%. Since the 1:500 (which is only .06%) that I initially

> > found is what Jim said would probably be too weak, I figured the 10%

> > would be way overkill - but since you can only dilute (you can't get

> > from a 1% to a 2%), you have to start with something stronger than you

> need.

> >

> > I hesitate to suggest that you experiment, but if you are so inclined:

> >

> > All I'm trying to do is to find the equivalent activating strength of

> > HCl as the 50% citric acid provides, so I can use it at a 1 to 1 ratio

> > with MMS1.

> >

> > > If for some reason you had a mind for playing with this, please be

> > > aware that adding water to acid, and acid to water, can get some

> very

> > > different results.

> >

> > Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me about this! I do

> recall

> > someone saying something about this somewhere, but had forgotten...

> >

> > So, which is it? When I get my 10%, and I want to dilute it, do I

> slowly

> > add the acid to the water (thats my guess) - or do I slowly add the

> > water to the acid?

> >

> > A quick google found this, and it looks like I was right (whew):

> >

> > http://tiny.pl/hqkdf

> >

> > > I can’t emphasise enough how nasty this stuff is (even though

> our body

> > > somehow found the need and means to contain this it). Let me know

> what

> > > you want to try, and if I feel it’s not too life threatening

> to take one

> > > for the team then I’ll do the experiments and report back.

> >

> > Well, I've already ordered the 10%, and it shouldn't be quite as nasty

> > as the 50%, so I'm ok with doing this myself, unless there is more to

> it

> > than it seems now?

> >

> > As long as I'm very careful, do you think I need to worry about gloves

> > or ventilation while diluting starting with a 10% solution?

> >

> > One last question - I'm assuming that with this 10% solution, the

> other

> > 90% is simply purified water? No 'stabilizers' or other crap that

> might

> > be toxic even in small amounts?

> >

> > Thanks , it is appreciated...

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Wow why do this????? Use calcium hypochlorite to activate sodium chlorite I do

not think that would create stabilized chlorine dioxide (ClO2) perhaps I will

leave that to others.

>

>

> > > > I have some hydrochloric acid here that is 50%, and if you like I

> > can

> > > > try some experimentation in mixing if there’s something you

> > want to

> > > > know.

> > >

> > > Wow... I'd say nasty might be an understatement. I did find the 36%

> > > online, but there were all kinds of warnings and hazmat shipping

> > > restrictions (ground only, no residential delivery, etc), so I just

> > > ordered the 10%. Since the 1:500 (which is only .06%) that I initially

> > > found is what Jim said would probably be too weak, I figured the 10%

> > > would be way overkill - but since you can only dilute (you can't get

> > > from a 1% to a 2%), you have to start with something stronger than you

> > need.

> > >

> > > I hesitate to suggest that you experiment, but if you are so inclined:

> > >

> > > All I'm trying to do is to find the equivalent activating strength of

> > > HCl as the 50% citric acid provides, so I can use it at a 1 to 1 ratio

> > > with MMS1.

> > >

> > > > If for some reason you had a mind for playing with this, please be

> > > > aware that adding water to acid, and acid to water, can get some

> > very

> > > > different results.

> > >

> > > Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me about this! I do

> > recall

> > > someone saying something about this somewhere, but had forgotten...

> > >

> > > So, which is it? When I get my 10%, and I want to dilute it, do I

> > slowly

> > > add the acid to the water (thats my guess) - or do I slowly add the

> > > water to the acid?

> > >

> > > A quick google found this, and it looks like I was right (whew):

> > >

> > > http://tiny.pl/hqkdf

> > >

> > > > I can’t emphasise enough how nasty this stuff is (even though

> > our body

> > > > somehow found the need and means to contain this it). Let me know

> > what

> > > > you want to try, and if I feel it’s not too life threatening

> > to take one

> > > > for the team then I’ll do the experiments and report back.

> > >

> > > Well, I've already ordered the 10%, and it shouldn't be quite as nasty

> > > as the 50%, so I'm ok with doing this myself, unless there is more to

> > it

> > > than it seems now?

> > >

> > > As long as I'm very careful, do you think I need to worry about gloves

> > > or ventilation while diluting starting with a 10% solution?

> > >

> > > One last question - I'm assuming that with this 10% solution, the

> > other

> > > 90% is simply purified water? No 'stabilizers' or other crap that

> > might

> > > be toxic even in small amounts?

> > >

> > > Thanks , it is appreciated...

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Marie & Tans, your input and admonitions I have taken into my

information bank. I want to hear from LarryC on this. I want answers

to the specific questions I asked.

Marie, you have always remarked what a healthy 'cocktail' the two MMSs

are for the body and the immune system. Larry mentioned that he thinks

the Shock may be, in fact, a better activator for MMS1 than the other

options. Why not intermix them right at the activation phase? I am

very interested in the answers to this.

> > > > > I have some hydrochloric acid here that is 50%, and if you

like I

> > > can

> > > > > try some experimentation in mixing if there’s something

you

> > > want to

> > > > > know.

> > > >

> > > > Wow... I'd say nasty might be an understatement. I did find the

36%

> > > > online, but there were all kinds of warnings and hazmat shipping

> > > > restrictions (ground only, no residential delivery, etc), so I

just

> > > > ordered the 10%. Since the 1:500 (which is only .06%) that I

initially

> > > > found is what Jim said would probably be too weak, I figured the

10%

> > > > would be way overkill - but since you can only dilute (you can't

get

> > > > from a 1% to a 2%), you have to start with something stronger

than you

> > > need.

> > > >

> > > > I hesitate to suggest that you experiment, but if you are so

inclined:

> > > >

> > > > All I'm trying to do is to find the equivalent activating

strength of

> > > > HCl as the 50% citric acid provides, so I can use it at a 1 to 1

ratio

> > > > with MMS1.

> > > >

> > > > > If for some reason you had a mind for playing with this,

please be

> > > > > aware that adding water to acid, and acid to water, can get

some

> > > very

> > > > > different results.

> > > >

> > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me about this! I

do

> > > recall

> > > > someone saying something about this somewhere, but had

forgotten...

> > > >

> > > > So, which is it? When I get my 10%, and I want to dilute it, do

I

> > > slowly

> > > > add the acid to the water (thats my guess) - or do I slowly add

the

> > > > water to the acid?

> > > >

> > > > A quick google found this, and it looks like I was right (whew):

> > > >

> > > > http://tiny.pl/hqkdf

> > > >

> > > > > I can’t emphasise enough how nasty this stuff is (even

though

> > > our body

> > > > > somehow found the need and means to contain this it). Let me

know

> > > what

> > > > > you want to try, and if I feel it’s not too life

threatening

> > > to take one

> > > > > for the team then I’ll do the experiments and report

back.

> > > >

> > > > Well, I've already ordered the 10%, and it shouldn't be quite as

nasty

> > > > as the 50%, so I'm ok with doing this myself, unless there is

more to

> > > it

> > > > than it seems now?

> > > >

> > > > As long as I'm very careful, do you think I need to worry about

gloves

> > > > or ventilation while diluting starting with a 10% solution?

> > > >

> > > > One last question - I'm assuming that with this 10% solution,

the

> > > other

> > > > 90% is simply purified water? No 'stabilizers' or other crap

that

> > > might

> > > > be toxic even in small amounts?

> > > >

> > > > Thanks , it is appreciated...

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I am receiving private emails from others here who have these same questions as

I and are hoping, also, for answers to the specific questions I asked in my

original post:

Am I supposed to now activate the MMS1 I

> will be

> > > > ingesting with the

> > > > Pool Shock????

And if so, as I understand it now, then just

> exactly

> > > > how much Pool Shock

> > > > should I use in relation to the MMS1????

> > > >

> > > > Take me, please from the exact beginning and describe to me the

> exact

> > > > procedure I need to

> > > > follow for making it up.

> > > >

> > > > Willow

======================

> > > > > > I have some hydrochloric acid here that is 50%, and if you

> like I

> > > > can

> > > > > > try some experimentation in mixing if there’s something

> you

> > > > want to

> > > > > > know.

> > > > >

> > > > > Wow... I'd say nasty might be an understatement. I did find the

> 36%

> > > > > online, but there were all kinds of warnings and hazmat shipping

> > > > > restrictions (ground only, no residential delivery, etc), so I

> just

> > > > > ordered the 10%. Since the 1:500 (which is only .06%) that I

> initially

> > > > > found is what Jim said would probably be too weak, I figured the

> 10%

> > > > > would be way overkill - but since you can only dilute (you can't

> get

> > > > > from a 1% to a 2%), you have to start with something stronger

> than you

> > > > need.

> > > > >

> > > > > I hesitate to suggest that you experiment, but if you are so

> inclined:

> > > > >

> > > > > All I'm trying to do is to find the equivalent activating

> strength of

> > > > > HCl as the 50% citric acid provides, so I can use it at a 1 to 1

> ratio

> > > > > with MMS1.

> > > > >

> > > > > > If for some reason you had a mind for playing with this,

> please be

> > > > > > aware that adding water to acid, and acid to water, can get

> some

> > > > very

> > > > > > different results.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you, thank you, thank you for reminding me about this! I

> do

> > > > recall

> > > > > someone saying something about this somewhere, but had

> forgotten...

> > > > >

> > > > > So, which is it? When I get my 10%, and I want to dilute it, do

> I

> > > > slowly

> > > > > add the acid to the water (thats my guess) - or do I slowly add

> the

> > > > > water to the acid?

> > > > >

> > > > > A quick google found this, and it looks like I was right (whew):

> > > > >

> > > > > http://tiny.pl/hqkdf

> > > > >

> > > > > > I can’t emphasise enough how nasty this stuff is (even

> though

> > > > our body

> > > > > > somehow found the need and means to contain this it). Let me

> know

> > > > what

> > > > > > you want to try, and if I feel it’s not too life

> threatening

> > > > to take one

> > > > > > for the team then I’ll do the experiments and report

> back.

> > > > >

> > > > > Well, I've already ordered the 10%, and it shouldn't be quite as

> nasty

> > > > > as the 50%, so I'm ok with doing this myself, unless there is

> more to

> > > > it

> > > > > than it seems now?

> > > > >

> > > > > As long as I'm very careful, do you think I need to worry about

> gloves

> > > > > or ventilation while diluting starting with a 10% solution?

> > > > >

> > > > > One last question - I'm assuming that with this 10% solution,

> the

> > > > other

> > > > > 90% is simply purified water? No 'stabilizers' or other crap

> that

> > > > might

> > > > > be toxic even in small amounts?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks , it is appreciated...

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

On 10/14/2009 11:58 PM, Willow wrote:

> I am receiving private emails from others here who have these same

> questions as I and are hoping, also, for answers to the specific

> questions I asked in my original post:

I already answered your first one, but I'll try again...

> Am I supposed to now activate the MMS1 I will be ingesting with the

> Pool Shock????

Short answer: NO.

Long answer: NOT YET.

What Larry is doing, what we are ALL doing with MMS - is called

EXPERIMENTING. He said that in his opinion, using MMS2 liquid worked as

well or better.

The methods people are using for activating MMS are well documented, and

imnsho, no one should be promoting alternative means without first

providing the scientific explanation for how/why it works *and* is safe,

and also documenting that it works at least as well as the currently

available methods.

If you are so inclined to experiment, and feel that you have the

knowledge, expertise and comfort level to do so, then by all means, feel

free.

It doesn't sound like you are comfortable doing this, so, please, do

yourself a favor and leave the experimenting to those who understand and

are willing to take the risks - and no, this was not intended as an

insult, it is just common sense.

> And if so, as I understand it now, then just exactly how much Pool

> Shock should I use in relation to the MMS1????

None (yet) - see my response above.

> Take me, please from the exact beginning and describe to me the exact

> procedure I need to follow for making it up.

No one should be providing step by step instructions to anyone else for

something that is even remotely potentially dangerous, unless/until it

is extremely well tested and documented, so personally I hope Larry

doesn't provide you an answer.

[Guest guest]

On 10/14/2009, Willow (WillowMorningSky@...) wrote:

> I am receiving private emails from others here who have these same

> questions as I and are hoping, also, for answers to the specific

> questions I asked in my original post:

If you really want an answer, maybe you should send this question to Jim

Humble?

[Guest guest]

On 10/15/2009, Willow (WillowMorningSky@...) wrote:

>> No one should be providing step by step instructions to anyone else for

>> something that is even remotely potentially dangerous, unless/until it

>> is extremely well tested and documented, so personally I hope Larry

>> doesn't provide you an answer.

> Such an insufferable, dogmatic, and ego-maniacle statement!

Yeah, I know... <sigh> ... how dare I be concerned about the welfare of

others, who do I think I am!?

Rotflmao!