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(((((((((((((Tawny)))))))))))))))))

I hope you are feeling better very soon... I am so sorry you are so sick. I

will be praying for you hon.... Rose

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Do you ever start to reply and then totally forget what you were going to say?

Well I forgot part of what I meant to say - so here I go now that I remembered!

LOL

Tawny, I think I have had RA most of my life too - I had Rheumatic Fever when I

was 9 years old and the doctors told my parents that all it left me with was a

bit of arthritis.... They were so happy that nothing happened with my heart that

they said we could deal with the arthritis. Since then, my knees have always

cracked like an old persons and my hands have always given me pain - the older I

have gotten the worse the pain is.......I remember when I was in seventh grade

- my handwriting had gotten so bad (I was always very sick in my growing up

years - I missed a lot of school - the doctors always put it off to the flu,

bronchitis, ect..) Anyway, my Daddy happened to buy me a wider barreled ink pen

with a medium point and suddenly with that pen I was able to write in my normal

handwriting - all I needed was a bit of an aid to correct my penmanship....To

this day I use a medium point, wider barreled pen. After I became a Mom (at 19)

I had a lot of unexplained pain - the

doctors had no idea what was going on....now I wish I'd pushed them to find

out what was wrong - but I was young, had a new baby and was in an abusive

marriage - the doctors saw a lot of other reasons why I had so much pain.... As

the years went by, raising my kids, I got rid of the abusive husband - remarried

and still had a lot of pain - I used to cover my hands in BenGay, IcyHot and

then that Capiscan cream when it came out. I'd leave it on for 15 minutes -

enough to let it soak in good and the go wash it off so I wouldn't transfer it

to the kids... That is how I functioned as a Mom... I had migraines too - and

though it was terrible to have to go get a shot for them, at least it knocked

the other pain out for awhile.

So, now that I am to this point in life, I think I also have had this disease

most of my life... maybe it was the fact that I was in a small town area - you

had to drive at least 100 miles to see a city doctor - or maybe it was also that

my parents didn't have a lot of money - I nearly put them into bankruptcy when I

had the Rheumatic Fever. And I didn't get well after that.....

Today I am hurting pretty bad - but not near as bad as you and Kerry - but I've

been reflecting a bit (I saw the doctor for the evaluation for Medicaid today)

and of course he doesn't know me - and he sort of gave me that look " but you

don't look sick " - I had my daughter with me and she spoke up at what I can no

longer do..... sometimes she'd answer the questions before me because she wanted

him to know I cannot do anything by myself anymore apart from use the bathroom

and take a shower -and sometimes I need help in the shower.

I keep thinking it will get better - it will get better - and I keep praying for

the Medicaid to be approved - I've seen that one Rheumy and he is anxious for me

to come back with Medicaid coverage so we can get started on treatment.... I am

anxious too... Even my joints in my jaw hurt!!!

LOL Is this enough whining or what?

I really AM thankful that I do not live alone and that my daughter is so

helpful. I am thankful that I can walk and hold my granddaughter - and enjoy

the day - even if it is more observing it rather than being involved in it....

This reply started out as saying " I've think I've been sick most of my life too "

and here you have a LONG story..... forgive me.... I just don't have anyone else

to say these things too that understand.. my daughter is good to try - but she

has a husband, new baby - house to keep - mother to help....

I am so thankful for this group - Ya'll have been a lifeline for me....

(((((((((((((((((Tawny))))))))))))))))))

(((((((((((((((((Kerry))))))))))))))))))))

I am praying for less pain for you both and that you will feel better soon...

Love

Rose

tdianaok <tdianaok@...> wrote: I took the

mtx injection Monday night, and Tuesday I had to stay in

bed all day. I was so weak and fatigued, I couldn't get up. I'm able

to get up today, but still feeling real bad. Has anyone had any

problems with the mtx injections? The pills didn't make me so sick.

I always thought the injections caused less problems. Thanks Tawny

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Tawny, the MTX injections make my sister sick as a dog, that's why she

does them on Saturday when she's off work. I am so sorry that you are

feeling bad., I'll be praying for you.

Love

Jane

>

> I took the mtx injection Monday night, and Tuesday I had to stay in

> bed all day. I was so weak and fatigued, I couldn't get up. I'm

able

> to get up today, but still feeling real bad. Has anyone had any

> problems with the mtx injections? The pills didn't make me so

sick.

> I always thought the injections caused less problems. Thanks Tawny

>

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Tawny:

Sorry I can't offer you much other than my sympathy and prayers, which you

certainly have. The pills made me sick, but I can take the injections with no

problem. Everyone is different. Perhaps you should ask your dr. about

switching back to pills or trying another option other than MTX.

in Texas

tdianaok <tdianaok@...> wrote:

I took the mtx injection Monday night, and Tuesday I had to stay in

bed all day. I was so weak and fatigued, I couldn't get up. I'm able

to get up today, but still feeling real bad. Has anyone had any

problems with the mtx injections? The pills didn't make me so sick.

I always thought the injections caused less problems. Thanks Tawny

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Tawny,

I am so sorry that you are going through this. I just started feeling the side

eeffects from the

MTX pills last Friday. Please tell me why I thought Thursday nights would be a

good time to

take them? I take 4 pills on Thursdays, and I am weak and tired...I can't

imagine how horrible

the shots must be. To add to it....since my job is over, my daughter is out of

daycare

wednesdays and Fridays...so I have a 14mo old w/ no energy tomorrow. I hope she

takes a

long nap!

Anyway, we are here if you need to vent! I hope you are feeling better!

>

> I took the mtx injection Monday night, and Tuesday I had to stay in

> bed all day. I was so weak and fatigued, I couldn't get up. I'm able

> to get up today, but still feeling real bad. Has anyone had any

> problems with the mtx injections? The pills didn't make me so sick.

> I always thought the injections caused less problems. Thanks Tawny

>

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I am feeling a little better, except for my joints. I wish the

steroid shot would kick in, they told me it takes about 24 hrs, and so

not sure what to think. I have always taken the mtx, usually on

Saturday night, right before I go to sleep. I was late taking it,

waiting to hear what the doc wanted to do, so took it Monday, not a

good idea:( I need to try to get back on my weekend schedule. I hope

after awhile, the side effects won't be too bad. Make sure you take

your folic. Is there anyone that can help you with the kids, just for

a little while? I know it's hard for you. My youngest is almost 13,

but my granddaughter is almost 15 months, so I feel for the mom's out

there. She wears me out when she visits, it's been a long time since

I've had a baby around:) I will keep you in my prayers, Tawny

PS:Thanks for listening.

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I am going to try the injections a few times, and see how if it gets

any better. Your right, meds work differently on us. Thanks for the

support, it makes everything a little bit better. Take care, Tawny

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(((((((Tawny))))))))

I am glad you are feeling a little better - maybe tomorrow will be even better

hon....

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I moved my MTX to Thurs to combine with the Embrel injection. I used to have

diarrhea and fatigue for 2-3 days after. I was started on Lukavoren ( I'm am

not sure thats the name but I know I spelled it wrong ) Its a long acting

form or Folic acid. Anyway I still feel tired with a bit of nausea but that

is only the day I take it and the diarrhea has improved alot. I have to say

that I cant tell a difference hy hands and knees still hurt like hell. Hope

the Embrel kicks in soon. I added a Darvocet to my am and afternon meds.

Heidi

On 6/14/07, tdianaok <tdianaok@...> wrote:

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> Lil' better, maybe tomorrow I'll be a LOT better. We can always

> hope. You take care, Tawny

>

>

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Dear Sue, We'll be praying for you. As we are older, we have become aware of

some of man's maladies, the primary one being the accumulation of fungus. My

wife is presently eliminated a prolific amount of fungus (candida and plantar's

warts) from her feet and ankles. Previously, she could not keep her feet warm.

Her hands were also cold, but not anymore since she has taken iodine and

antifungals. I highly recommend taking 50 mg/day of Lugol's iodine, working up

to that level over a period of weeks or months. Stay at 50 mg/day for three

months for whole body saturation, then drop down to a maintenance dose of 13

mg/day, approximately.

Some excellent antifungals are tumeric, cat's claw, pau d'arco, black walnut

hulls, elecampane, and barberry. I've made tinctures of them from powders, as

this is the least expensive option. I am presently using them to get rid of

thrush on my tongue, by holding the antifungals in my mouth. So far, some of the

white spots are disappearing. I thought about trying MMS1 for this, but it is

not necessary. I first discovered I had thrush (hidden below the surface) after

eating banana chips, which are also quite anti-fungal.

Try to eliminate anything that has yeast or sugar in it - it feeds fungus. Use

Stevia to sweeten drinks.

from Israel

--- In , " Sue Cato " <sue.cato@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Group,

> being following this grp since I got some MMS. I'm just so damn sick.

> ..and I'm not one to use profanity. I know some of you are believers in the

> triune God, could please pray for me and my family. sue, bruce, tim and andy

>

> Now that winter is here again i'm immobilized - my extremeites are just so

cold - feet are like block of ice and I live in south texas.

> I can't find it in me to move. I was on antbx for 12 years in youth.

>

> I have plenty infection canddida, very weakended immuyne system,

> am down to 100 lbs, my sodium, h20 does not move effieciently through body

>

> This stress of illness has just beat my husband and i up, he is supportive but

> we are so weary.

>

> sue

>

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Sue, I am in Texas in Hemphill; right at the La. Border. I am going to start praying for y ou and your husband. Would liek to send you the healing scriptures I copied from the back of the book from Womack. Also, he has a tape of a lady quoting the healing scriptures at www.awmi.net on audios. He has the best teaching on healing around.

 

I found that soaking that word up builds your faith up. Then the annointing comes, and that is when you get it!

 

God Bless,

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Yochanan <yburkett@...> wrote:

 

Dear Sue, We'll be praying for you. As we are older, we have become aware of some of man's maladies, the primary one being the accumulation of fungus. My wife is presently eliminated a prolific amount of fungus (candida and plantar's warts) from her feet and ankles. Previously, she could not keep her feet warm. Her hands were also cold, but not anymore since she has taken iodine and antifungals. I highly recommend taking 50 mg/day of Lugol's iodine, working up to that level over a period of weeks or months. Stay at 50 mg/day for three months for whole body saturation, then drop down to a maintenance dose of 13 mg/day, approximately.

Some excellent antifungals are tumeric, cat's claw, pau d'arco, black walnut hulls, elecampane, and barberry. I've made tinctures of them from powders, as this is the least expensive option. I am presently using them to get rid of thrush on my tongue, by holding the antifungals in my mouth. So far, some of the white spots are disappearing. I thought about trying MMS1 for this, but it is not necessary. I first discovered I had thrush (hidden below the surface) after eating banana chips, which are also quite anti-fungal.

Try to eliminate anything that has yeast or sugar in it - it feeds fungus. Use Stevia to sweeten drinks. from Israel >> Hi Group,

> being following this grp since I got some MMS. I'm just so damn sick.> ..and I'm not one to use profanity. I know some of you are believers in the > triune God, could please pray for me and my family. sue, bruce, tim and andy

> > Now that winter is here again i'm immobilized - my extremeites are just so cold - feet are like block of ice and I live in south texas.> I can't find it in me to move. I was on antbx for 12 years in youth.

> > I have plenty infection canddida, very weakended immuyne system,> am down to 100 lbs, my sodium, h20 does not move effieciently through body> > This stress of illness has just beat my husband and i up, he is supportive but

> we are so weary.> > sue>

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I would love to have a copy of the healing scriptures if you would be willing to

send them. Thanks. J

>

> >

> >

> > Dear Sue, We'll be praying for you. As we are older, we have become aware

> > of some of man's maladies, the primary one being the accumulation of fungus.

> > My wife is presently eliminated a prolific amount of fungus (candida and

> > plantar's warts) from her feet and ankles. Previously, she could not keep

> > her feet warm. Her hands were also cold, but not anymore since she has taken

> > iodine and antifungals. I highly recommend taking 50 mg/day of Lugol's

> > iodine, working up to that level over a period of weeks or months. Stay at

> > 50 mg/day for three months for whole body saturation, then drop down to a

> > maintenance dose of 13 mg/day, approximately.

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>

> I found that soaking that word up builds your faith up. Then the annointing

> comes, and that is when you get it!

>

> God Bless,

>

>

> Hi ,

I'm just curious if you have experienced healing in the way you mentioned and if

so from what, if you don't mind sharing.

Gail

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--- In , " Sue Cato " <sue.cato@...>

wrote:

>

> This stress of illness has just beat my husband and i up, he is supportive but

> we are so weary.

>

> sue

>

Dear Sue,

Such is the way of the very ill. Will hold you and your family up in prayer.

Tender mercies to you all.

Gail

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Hi all! I just was able to get back on the internet. I may have to wait to send the scriptures when I get home but hopefully I can find them on my daughter's computer to send.

 

OK, ya''ll want to hear some testimonies so will try and relate some and don't forget that I am still learning, ok?

 

My daughter when about 5 or 6 yrs old, walked to the altar when they called for the elders of the church to annoint with oil and pray the prayer of healing ( 5:14) I believe. I was back about 6 rows with my hands raised and eyes closed when she went forth on her own (she had been sitting in the front with the children). I saw Jesus walk across the podium, passing up a dozen others and stood right in front of , raising his arms and putting his hands over her ears. It shocked me and I opened my eyes and the pastor was standing in front of her with his hands placed just where Jesus placed them!!! And he prophesied to her and all I could hear was she was HIS child (which I have reminded the Lord many times) LOL Could go on further about her and addiction to pain pills due to doctors and operations on her leg and ankle. If anything, that about killed me.

 

She was immediately healed and had gone to visit my mother in law and stupid me said to myself, oh I forgot to send her medicine. She was allergic to everything and very sickly as a child. She went for about 2 weeks, came home and had gained 10 pounds as she could eat everything! Been gaining ever since (overwt). She is 41 yrs old now.

 

I have seen many healed and miracles, but there has been a lack of enough proper teachings on what Jesus paid for at the cross and knowing our authority in the Word. I was one that was running to any person with the healing gift hoping she would be healed and you see what happened! A child's faith!

 

I recently discovered one hugh way I was missing it! Please listen to this series; especially the one that says Speak to the Mountain. http://www.awmi.net/extra/audio/1042  I was recently at a revival where my old pastor from Dallas was speaking and this elderly lady (a pastor's wife) sat down right beside me and I almost said oh these seats are saved as we had invited lots of people, but I didn't and she told me she didn't think she would get to come as she had pneumonia! I thought, oh boy, and you are sitting right next to me!! Well, during the service, the annointing hit me and I slapped her on her chest and said pneumonia, BE GONE! in Jesus Name and that was it. Hey, I am a bashful person normally, really!! I couldn't believe I did that, but later when he was praying for people, he called her up and prayed over several things wrong as He operates in the gifts. He never called out pneumonia and I knew it was taken care of. When she sat back down she told me that when I prayed for her the pneumonia left! Really, I was not surprised except for me hitting her in the chest! It is all in the annointing that comes so next step is to get that annointing which I believe is in the Word; planting the seed and having in your heart and the other person also. Then Jesus just meets them, so we must move beyond believing the other person can do it. But, BOY, when two are in agreement! the devil cannot stand it!

 

I don't want to take up too much time here but always willing to pray, teach, whatever as GOD called and chose me, I did nothing and take no credit for anything. Just a hungry soul wanting to help many in bondage. My biggest burden now is how to help the tormented and abused, to set them free! Would like to hear comments from you all and think it is wonderful that you do reach out for prayer knowing and recognizing our GOD ALMIGHTY! Gonna take the strong annointing to get through all coming. I choose the Kingdom of God not the kingdom of mammon or the world! They have the evil, but think about all that JESUS is going to be doing!

 

Love ya all,

Leelee as known when on radio with my friend who actually has the gift of healing!

 

 

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:09 PM, wanda85929 <wanda85929@...> wrote:

 

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> This stress of illness has just beat my husband and i up, he is supportive but> we are so weary.> > sue>Dear Sue,Such is the way of the very ill. Will hold you and your family up in prayer.

Tender mercies to you all.Gail

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Sue I am no doctor but can tell you from my own experience the cold feet for me

was lyme disease. The doctor thought sugar that came back negative, the lyme

test positive. Lyme test can be negative and still be infected. After months of

the MMS1 and being VERY ILL I have healed tremendously. Hang in there back off

the drops but try and keep some in the system. Good Luck Marie

--- In , " Sue Cato " <sue.cato@...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Group,

> being following this grp since I got some MMS. I'm just so damn sick.

> ..and I'm not one to use profanity. I know some of you are believers in the

> triune God, could please pray for me and my family. sue, bruce, tim and andy

>

> Now that winter is here again i'm immobilized - my extremeites are just so

cold - feet are like block of ice and I live in south texas.

> I can't find it in me to move. I was on antbx for 12 years in youth.

>

> I have plenty infection canddida, very weakended immuyne system,

> am down to 100 lbs, my sodium, h20 does not move effieciently through body

>

> This stress of illness has just beat my husband and i up, he is supportive but

> we are so weary.

>

> sue

>

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> Hello Bee,

> I am very sick with a sinus infection. It's been 5 days now. Half of my face

is swollen up, and my lymph glands/tonsil. My lower jaw, teeth, and tongue are

in extreme pain. My ear is also sore and my throat is raw. I have completely

lost my voice as of yesterday. This morning my eyes were stuck shut and gunky. I

have had many sinus infections in the past but nothing remotely compares to this

one. I believe I retraced one last month that lasted a day or two and was gone.

This started with a cold and is getting worse. I don't know what to do. I am

terrified of taking antibiotics. I broke down and started to take ibuprofin for

pain because I can't stand it and cannot sleep or have anything touch my face.

White Willow Bark doesn't even touch it. I have been doing snizzle treatments

probably every few hours. Got a bad nose bleed once. I am doing hot compresses,

ascorbic acid nose drops, and have done a lesser version of the vit c regimen

totaling about 8000mg a day. I am also drinking the garlic tea with two cloves

of garlic, sea salt and 2 tbs chicken fat. I am not straining the garlic out but

drinking them down crushed. I feel like I am loosing this battle. Any advice

etc.? Been on the diet since June 2009. I really want to win this because

everyone else in my family with this has gone to the doc and are on antibioics

already. I did go to the doc today and got some too but really don't want to

take them.I feel like my efforts to heal will be in vain. Help?

+++Hi Heidi,

First please ensure you are following the program accurately and consistently,

i.e. taking all of the supplements and not cheating, as well as not taking any

hormones, birth control pills, drugs, etc. (except for small amounts of pain

killer).

Stress also weakens your body.

If you are sure about that, then you can be assured your body is doing what it

needs to do in order to heal and detoxify itself, whether it is because of

retracing or not.

In any case, there are no quick fixes, and antibiotics are poisonous so they

will interfere with healing.

Don't try to do too much either, since it will overwhelm your body and slow its

ability to heal itself, i.e. don't eat the crushed garlic, and only do vitamin C

snizzles and not take extra vitamin C (do one or the other, since vitamin C in

the sinuses increases its absorption 1,000 times over taking it by mouth).

I suggest you do my 9-day Program to help you get through this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/dig6.php

I understand how miserable it is, and I hope you get through this soon.

Healing hugs, Bee

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Hi Heidi,

I agree with Bee's advice.

Just remind yourself that you are detoxifying. Keep in mind as to how good

you'll feel once those toxins are out. If you suppress this detoxification

process with antibiotics, they'll need to come out some other time. Better now

than later.

I know it's miserable but atleast your body is getting healthy enough to get rid

of the the toxins.

I understand your fear as I've gone through this with my sinus' and a tooth

extraction site supposedly being infected. I've gotten through without

antibiotics.

Try some dry skin brushing and epsom salt baths as well. Hope this ends quickly

for you.

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>

> Hello Bee,

> I am very sick with a sinus infection. It's been 5 days now. Half of my face

is swollen up, and my lymph glands/tonsil. My lower jaw, teeth, and tongue are

in extreme pain. My ear is also sore and my throat is raw. I have completely

lost my voice as of yesterday. This morning my eyes were stuck shut and gunky. I

have had many sinus infections in the past but nothing remotely compares to this

one. I believe I retraced one last month that lasted a day or two and was gone.

This started with a cold and is getting worse. I don't know what to do. I am

terrified of taking antibiotics. I broke down and

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