Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 The information presented sounds like propaganda to me. Before Ukranians fell ill, they were sprayed with something that was said to help their immune systems. Many people then immediately fell ill with pnemonic plague, which is caused by the bacteria Yersinia pestis (not a virus). Now, the authorities are claiming it is viral mutation; how convenient for getting the masses to stampede for their H1N1 flu shots. But even if it were true that the pnemonic plague were viral, then the current H1N1 flu shots would be ineffective, according to the medical establishment. Nevertheless, Ukranian officials have made the shot mandatory; those who resist will be quarantined. An independent laboratory did an assay on one of the H1N1 vaccines and discovered that it contained the same Yersinia pestis bacteria that causes the black pneumonic plague (the same plague that wiped out Europe hundreds of years ago). The information I received came from various posts on www.theflucase.com. from Israel --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > The first deputy minister of Health in Ukraine said in a statement that they have a different h1n1 swine flu than the rest of the world and US. In 6 days 500 000 people have been infected, 93 confirmed deaths. Statements from a lot of departments and officials seem to disagree but the fact is that if this is the h1n1 it might of either mutated or this is another swine flu strain. > > The reason for this is obviously as stated above and that the strain in the Ukraine has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood. This can be blamed on lack of public health but according to sources this is not the case. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu. > > In a paper published in microbiology news called resurrecting influenza pandemic strains. The author recognized 5 strains of weaponized flu. > > Confirmation that this is a mutated version: (or not a mutation of h1n1 but a viral pneumonia which is something different) > > 1. 250 000 to 500 000 infected in one day, way faster than any other country the h1n1 has been > > 2. Many cases of viral pneumonia where the lungs fill with blood, a much higher viral pneumonia rate than any other country > > 3. Ukraine Health minister said himself that " swine flu has mutated " > > 4. Much bigger death rate than normal > > The most cases are in the rural north west area of the Ukraine. That statistics are not unusual for a few months but this is for a few days. > > On the ground though, unconfirmed reports say that people are going on as normal, they also say that this is fear mongering. (speaking to locals) > > WHO needs to confirm that the genes have are different, if they are not that means the swine flu has not mutated. > > Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been hyped up, a real mutated h1n1 or just bad health services in the Ukraine. > http://fto.co.za/news/new-strain-swine-flu-ukraine-swine-flu-h1n1-might-have-mut\ ated-pneumonic-plague-2009110615731.h > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 If the swine flu has mutated the vaccine is worthless now, so how would this promote the vaccine? --- In , " Yochanan " <yburkett@...> wrote: > > The information presented sounds like propaganda to me. Before Ukranians fell ill, they were sprayed with something that was said to help their immune systems. Many people then immediately fell ill with pnemonic plague, which is caused by the bacteria Yersinia pestis (not a virus). Now, the authorities are claiming it is viral mutation; how convenient for getting the masses to stampede for their H1N1 flu shots. But even if it were true that the pnemonic plague were viral, then the current H1N1 flu shots would be ineffective, according to the medical establishment. Nevertheless, Ukranian officials have made the shot mandatory; those who resist will be quarantined. > > An independent laboratory did an assay on one of the H1N1 vaccines and discovered that it contained the same Yersinia pestis bacteria that causes the black pneumonic plague (the same plague that wiped out Europe hundreds of years ago). > > The information I received came from various posts on www.theflucase.com. > > from Israel > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > The first deputy minister of Health in Ukraine said in a statement that they have a different h1n1 swine flu than the rest of the world and US. In 6 days 500 000 people have been infected, 93 confirmed deaths. Statements from a lot of departments and officials seem to disagree but the fact is that if this is the h1n1 it might of either mutated or this is another swine flu strain. > > > > The reason for this is obviously as stated above and that the strain in the Ukraine has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood. This can be blamed on lack of public health but according to sources this is not the case. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu. > > > > In a paper published in microbiology news called resurrecting influenza pandemic strains. The author recognized 5 strains of weaponized flu. > > > > Confirmation that this is a mutated version: (or not a mutation of h1n1 but a viral pneumonia which is something different) > > > > 1. 250 000 to 500 000 infected in one day, way faster than any other country the h1n1 has been > > > > 2. Many cases of viral pneumonia where the lungs fill with blood, a much higher viral pneumonia rate than any other country > > > > 3. Ukraine Health minister said himself that " swine flu has mutated " > > > > 4. Much bigger death rate than normal > > > > The most cases are in the rural north west area of the Ukraine. That statistics are not unusual for a few months but this is for a few days. > > > > On the ground though, unconfirmed reports say that people are going on as normal, they also say that this is fear mongering. (speaking to locals) > > > > WHO needs to confirm that the genes have are different, if they are not that means the swine flu has not mutated. > > > > Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been hyped up, a real mutated h1n1 or just bad health services in the Ukraine. > > http://fto.co.za/news/new-strain-swine-flu-ukraine-swine-flu-h1n1-might-have-mut\ ated-pneumonic-plague-2009110615731.h > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 On 11/15/2009, healinghope (mfrreman@...) wrote: > If the swine flu has mutated the vaccine is worthless now, so how > would this promote the vaccine? Because the masses are ignorant and stupid and will believe anything they see on TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 It would not even occur to most people that a mutation of the virus would render the older vaccine useless. It obviously doesn't matter to the " health " ministry in the Ukraine either; they are giving people the older H1N1 vaccine for the new " mutated H1N1 " virus, and at gunpoint. The people's option: confinement outside of their homes (read Gulag). from Israel --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote: > > If the swine flu has mutated the vaccine is worthless now, so how would this promote the vaccine? > > --- In , " Yochanan " <yburkett@> wrote: > > > > The information presented sounds like propaganda to me. Before Ukranians fell ill, they were sprayed with something that was said to help their immune systems. Many people then immediately fell ill with pnemonic plague, which is caused by the bacteria Yersinia pestis (not a virus). Now, the authorities are claiming it is viral mutation; how convenient for getting the masses to stampede for their H1N1 flu shots. But even if it were true that the pnemonic plague were viral, then the current H1N1 flu shots would be ineffective, according to the medical establishment. Nevertheless, Ukranian officials have made the shot mandatory; those who resist will be quarantined. > > > > An independent laboratory did an assay on one of the H1N1 vaccines and discovered that it contained the same Yersinia pestis bacteria that causes the black pneumonic plague (the same plague that wiped out Europe hundreds of years ago). > > > > The information I received came from various posts on www.theflucase.com. > > > > from Israel > > > > --- In , " healinghope " <mfrreman@> wrote: > > > > > > The first deputy minister of Health in Ukraine said in a statement that they have a different h1n1 swine flu than the rest of the world and US. In 6 days 500 000 people have been infected, 93 confirmed deaths. Statements from a lot of departments and officials seem to disagree but the fact is that if this is the h1n1 it might of either mutated or this is another swine flu strain. > > > > > > The reason for this is obviously as stated above and that the strain in the Ukraine has a much bigger rate of filling the lungs with blood. This can be blamed on lack of public health but according to sources this is not the case. The plague or virus in the Ukraine has 10 times the mortality rate than the normal swine flu. > > > > > > In a paper published in microbiology news called resurrecting influenza pandemic strains. The author recognized 5 strains of weaponized flu. > > > > > > Confirmation that this is a mutated version: (or not a mutation of h1n1 but a viral pneumonia which is something different) > > > > > > 1. 250 000 to 500 000 infected in one day, way faster than any other country the h1n1 has been > > > > > > 2. Many cases of viral pneumonia where the lungs fill with blood, a much higher viral pneumonia rate than any other country > > > > > > 3. Ukraine Health minister said himself that " swine flu has mutated " > > > > > > 4. Much bigger death rate than normal > > > > > > The most cases are in the rural north west area of the Ukraine. That statistics are not unusual for a few months but this is for a few days. > > > > > > On the ground though, unconfirmed reports say that people are going on as normal, they also say that this is fear mongering. (speaking to locals) > > > > > > WHO needs to confirm that the genes have are different, if they are not that means the swine flu has not mutated. > > > > > > Everyone is waiting for the gene sequences which will confirm whether this has been hyped up, a real mutated h1n1 or just bad health services in the Ukraine. > > > http://fto.co.za/news/new-strain-swine-flu-ukraine-swine-flu-h1n1-might-have-mut\ ated-pneumonic-plague-2009110615731.h > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 On Nov 15, 2009, at 6:09 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/15/2009, healinghope (mfrreman@...) wrote: >> If the swine flu has mutated the vaccine is worthless now, so how >> would this promote the vaccine? > > Because the masses are ignorant and stupid and will believe anything > they see on TV? > That's definitely true everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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