Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 On 10/13/2009, (blacksands@...) wrote: > Has anyone used MMS1 and/or MMS2 successfully in ridding oneself of Candida? Actually, I was very disappointed to read at one of the links I ran across substantiating that Hypochlorous Acid was effective against fungus, that it was NOT effective against candida albicans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 , Can you post the link that shows that hypochlorous acid is not effective against candida albicans? from Israel > > Has anyone used MMS1 and/or MMS2 successfully in ridding oneself of Candida? > > Actually, I was very disappointed to read at one of the links I ran > across substantiating that Hypochlorous Acid was effective against > fungus, that it was NOT effective against candida albicans. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 On 10/14/2009, Yochanan (yburkett@...) wrote: > Can you post the link that shows that hypochlorous acid is not > effective against candida albicans? Lets see, I read it on one of the links that either healinghope provided, or something I found incidental to that, when showing that it (HOCl) was indeed effective against fungi... And of course, now I can't find it ... *but* ... I *did* find something that says it *is* effective against candida - it is on the link healinghope provoded for Sterilox (which is simply hypochlorous acid): The below taken from http://tiny.pl/hqkfv " STERILOX super-oxidized water has been tested and is the subject of two scientific papers by Selkon et al, Journal of Hospital Infection, 41: 59-70 (1999) and Shetty et al, Journal of Hospital Infection, 41: 101-105 (1999). In these studies, freshly produced STERILOX super-oxidized water was found to be highly active against Mycobacterium tuberculosis, Mycobacterium avium-intracellulare, Mycobacterium chelonae, Escherichia coli (including type 0157), Enterococcus faecalis, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Bacillus subtilis var niger spores, methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Candida albicans, poliovirus type 2 and human immunodeficiency virus HIV-1. " So, apparently whatever I read either wasn't talking about hypochlorous acid, or contradicts the above study. We were discussing Niacin about that time, so maybe what I read was about niacin... Oh well, no worries, I'm just happy now to learn I was wrong (yay!), so thanks for making me revisit this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 On 10/14/2009, Yochanan (yburkett@...) wrote: >> Can you post the link that shows that hypochlorous acid is not > So, apparently whatever I read either wasn't talking about hypochlorous > acid, or contradicts the above study. We were discussing Niacin about > that time, so maybe what I read was about niacin... > > Oh well, no worries, I'm just happy now to learn I was wrong (yay!), so > thanks for making me revisit this! Crap... just found it. It is talking about low concentration HOCl administered via nasal irrigation, so maybe it was the low concentration, or the method of delivery... Anyway: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121605795/abstract Quoting: " Methods: We treated human primary nasal epithelial cells with 3.5 ppm of hypochlorous acid and then examined the cells for cytotoxicity. We also investigated the bactericidal, fungicidal, and virucidal effects by challenging the cells with the following microorganisms Aspergillus fumigatus, Haemophilus influenzae, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Rhizopus oryzae, Candida albicans, Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus pneumoniae, and Streptococcus pyogenes. To study the virucidal effects of HOCl, we used the human influenza A virus to challenge the cells. Results: In the cytotoxicity assay and in the morphological examination, the cells did not show anytoxicity at 30 minute or 2 hours after treatment with HOCl. More than 99% of bactericidal or fungicidal activity was noted for all species, except for Candida albicans, in tap water at either pH 7.0 or 8.4. In addition, a 3.2-log10 reduction was achieved in cells challenged with the human influenza A virus. " Note the '... except for Candida albicans ...' above... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It could be that the hydrochlorous acid was " only " say 95% effective instead of 99% effective against candida albicans; in other words, it is not necessarily the case that it was entirely ineffective. The article can be dismissed as inconclusive with regard to candida albicans. --- In , Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@...> wrote: > http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/121605795/abstract > > Quoting: > > " Methods: We treated human primary nasal epithelial cells with 3.5 ppm > of hypochlorous acid and then examined the cells for cytotoxicity. We > also investigated the bactericidal, fungicidal, and virucidal effects by > challenging the cells with the following microorganisms Aspergillus > fumigatus, Haemophilus influenzae, Klebsiella pneumoniae, Rhizopus > oryzae, Candida albicans, Methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus, > Streptococcus pneumoniae, and Streptococcus pyogenes. To study the > virucidal effects of HOCl, we used the human influenza A virus to > challenge the cells. > Results: In the cytotoxicity assay and in the morphological examination, > the cells did not show anytoxicity at 30 minute or 2 hours after > treatment with HOCl. More than 99% of bactericidal or fungicidal > activity was noted for all species, except for Candida albicans, in tap > water at either pH 7.0 or 8.4. In addition, a 3.2-log10 reduction was > achieved in cells challenged with the human influenza A virus. " > > Note the '... except for Candida albicans ...' above... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 On 10/14/2009, Yochanan (yburkett@...) wrote: > It could be that the hydrochlorous acid was " only " say 95% effective > instead of 99% effective against candida albicans; in other words, it > is not necessarily the case that it was entirely ineffective. The > article can be dismissed as inconclusive with regard to candida > albicans. Combined with the other study that contradicted it, yes, I'd agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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