Re: Hydrochloric Acid

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Might be easier to just by the 5% from dr.clark and

then dilute it down..to get 1%..

--- ~ ~ <sbulmer@...> wrote:

> HI,

> Dr. s book " A cure for all diseases " recommends

> getting your pharmacist

> to make up a 1 percent hydrochloric acid solution.

>

> has anyone done this? Does anyone know of a

> pharmacy that does this?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

Do you use this? I thought that hydrochloric acid required a prescription

in the US. Am I wrong about this ?

Re: hydrochloric acid

> Might be easier to just by the 5% from dr.clark and

> then dilute it down..to get 1%..

> --- ~ ~ <sbulmer@...> wrote:

> > HI,

> > Dr. s book " A cure for all diseases " recommends

> > getting your pharmacist

> > to make up a 1 percent hydrochloric acid solution.

> >

> > has anyone done this? Does anyone know of a

> > pharmacy that does this?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

:

The reason you cannot find this info is that Hydrochloric is

non-combustible.

ps Quoting " for the acid in my possession " this phrase is normal

reserved for court appearances!

Cheers and have a good Trip, you have ALL the fun!

Wilf

Hydrochloric Acid

> Evenin all,

>

> I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

> that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

> bring more questions than answers.

>

> If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

> guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

> it.

>

> We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

> MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

> any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

> boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

> with regards to flash points is Not available.

>

> Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

>

> Regards

>

> J

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Hi , happy new year!

I a, awaiting a phone call from our station. We have a very good up-to-date

HAZCHEM system and it should... be on there. I hope to have an answer (if

there is one) tonight.

Rod

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From: " Rundle " <jrundle@...>

Hydrochloric Acid

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

looked through our MSDS sheets, there is no Flash

Point mentioned, spoke to Safety Officer who did an Internet search and

cannot find a Flash point for Hydrochloric Acid

regards

neil Poole

" Rundle " <jrundle@...>

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Subject: Hydrochloric Acid

Evenin all,

I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

bring more questions than answers.

If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

it.

We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

with regards to flash points is Not available.

Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

Regards

J

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Dear ,

A few thoughts, not to be construed as final advice. I think from your

past postings you are on a rig, an environment I don't have experience of,

but I have some experience of HCl in other circumstances.

I'm not sure hydrochloric acid should have a flash point as I'm not sure it

is combustible. (Think about it, to be acidic, HCl has to be in a water

solution -- not normally very combustible ...)

However, if you are stocking the concentrated acid, there are significant

handling issues as reaction with many metals will produce hydrogen, which

is certainly combustible!

If I was in your shoes I would find out how the acid might be used and what

is the likely production of hydrogen in the circumstances.

Cheers,

At 18:57 2006-01-03 +0200, you wrote:

>Evenin all,

>

>I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

>that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

>bring more questions than answers.

>

>If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

>guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

>it.

>

>We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

>MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

>any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

>boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

>with regards to flash points is Not available.

>

>Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

>

>Regards

>

>J

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Hi ,

Interesting enough,I'm presently on an offshore rig out here in Qatar and we

have just finished completing an acid job (from Halliburton). I've spoken with

the ondeck supervisor of Halliburton, who is overseeing the acid job, and he is

unaware of an actual " flashpoint " . He does state however that the flashpoint is

extremely high.The acid boat that was along side of us was here last night, but

has already left.He told me that will try and get into contact with the captain

of the acid boat to answer your questions if in fact there is an actual degree

of a flashpoint.

Cale' Coelho

H2S Tech/Remote Medic

High Island 9

Qatar

Rundle <jrundle@...> wrote:

Evenin all,

I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

bring more questions than answers.

If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

it.

We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

with regards to flash points is Not available.

Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

Regards

J

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Hi ,

A bit more info that I hope will aid in helping you out in search for

answers.Like I said, we have just completed an acid job here on our rig and

speaking with the Engineer in charge of the acid job, he stated that the acid is

in fact in liquid form when transferred from the boat onto the Rig.The

concentration on the acid boat is at 35%, but it is then diluted down to between

15%-28% while doing the job.In regards to combustibility, the only danger factor

would be in the development of hydrogen gas in an enclosed atmosphere, but the

acid containers are vented strictly to eliminate this possibility.Furthermore,

the hydrochloric acid is contained and pumped in a rubber-lined tank and hose to

further eliminate the possibility of it coming into contact with other metals,

which would then cause it be extremely corrosive.I hope this helps.

Rundle <jrundle@...> wrote:

Evenin all,

I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

bring more questions than answers.

If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

it.

We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

with regards to flash points is Not available.

Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

Regards

J

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Hi , all the MSDS sheets i have seen say flash point not given, this

sheet may help, regards john

- Hydrochloric Acid

> Evenin all,

>

> I hope all of you had a good festive season and I trust

> that everyone is in good health. It seems the new year does

> bring more questions than answers.

>

> If anyone can help me with the answers to my question, or

> guide me in the right direction, I would really appreciate

> it.

>

> We might be having an acid job done, and I have got the

> MSDS for the acid in my posession, but it does not state

> any flash point? Thus far I have managed to track down the

> boiling and melting points, but no flash point. All i get

> with regards to flash points is Not available.

>

> Your help will be greatly appreciated once again

>

> Regards

>

> J

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Yours in Health & Safety

DR. Sullivan Ph.D. CP.

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Hi, everyone. It has occurred to me that I've forgotten all about hydrochloric acid, if that's the correct term. In other words, stomach acid. I'm unclear which of the Houston's enzymes contains it,

>>None of them do. Thats kind of the point of enzymes, they work whether there is acid in there or not

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Hi we use betaine and

pepsin as advised by because it helps to promote stomach acid. SARA

Hydrochloric acid

Hi, everyone. It has occurred

to me that I've forgotten all about hydrochloric acid, if that's the correct

term. In other words, stomach acid. I'm unclear which of the

Houston's enzymes contains it, and how to test if our children are hypochloridic.

I phoned Biolab here in London, and they told me they've stopped testing for

hydrochloric acid because of some law out of Brussels. Quantity of

stomach acid seems important to me, and incidentally for us mothers,

as well, to absorb calcium, if I've understood correctly. Can anyone help

out?

Thanks,

Abigail

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So here's my question: how did she decide he needs it?

Thanks,

Abbie

[Guest guest]

Abigail,

If you've done a hair test you maybe able to get some information from

there in the ratios. A kid with a low ca/p ratio may have low stomach

acid. We're using ascorbic acid now (unbuffered C) to try to raise

stomach acid. Lemons I think will do it too.

Anita

>

>

Quantity of stomach acid seems important to me, and

> incidentally for us mothers, as well, to absorb calcium, if I've

understood

> correctly. Can anyone help out?

>

>

>

> Thanks,

>

> Abigail

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow didnt know this thanks! Maybe that why has undigested food in her stools.

Luv caroline

xxx

PS So is taking Ascorbic acid with meals enough to reverse this?

[Guest guest]

One way you can check if your kid needs HCl is by looking at stools.

Perhaps compare to your own (presumably healthy) stools. Someone with

low hcl will tend to have " bitsy " stools (full of undigested food),

where as someone with adequate hcl will tend to have smooth (paste

like) stools of even consistency.

I personally take ascorbic acid (in capsules) with meals and they have

worked a treat to reverse my low hcl.

garcia.

>

> So here's my question: how did she decide he needs it?

>

> Thanks,

> Abbie

>

[Guest guest]

So is taking Ascorbic acid with meals enough to reverse this?

>>Maybe, some need Betaine HCI also

Mandi x

[Guest guest]

Or BCI Betaine with Pepsin (don't know what the BCI bit means. Pepsin

is an enzyme, I think)

Sally

CarolineTraa@... wrote:

Wow didnt know this thanks! Maybe that why has

undigested food in her stools.

Luv caroline

xxx

PS So is taking Ascorbic acid with meals enough to reverse this?

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[Guest guest]

> Wow didnt know this thanks! Maybe that why has undigested

food in

> her stools.

> Luv caroline

> xxx

>

> PS So is taking Ascorbic acid with meals enough to reverse this?

Hopefully. It was in my case. I can't say 100% because the stomach is

only 1 part of digestion (though a very important part). Also some

things are just hard to digest - e.g. nuts - so you might have to

avoid those (I still can't digest nuts).

P.S. if you try this please post back your results (good or bad). You

might have to play around with dosages.

HTH,

garcia.

[Guest guest]

I would guess / bet the reasonfor siieng maldigested food, = large

food parts like sweet cornand vegetable parts is not really

maldigestion, but lack of chewing that is a common finding in ASD

children.

This releases a new question...

Anyone who practises blending / putting all food through a food

processor before they give it to their (non chewing) ASD child ??

Betain (HCl) = TMG

is a good choice to try for ASD chindren, with or without HCl problems....

Geir Flatabø

2007/1/26, jgarcia3788 :

> One way you can check if your kid needs HCl is by looking at stools.

> Perhaps compare to your own (presumably healthy) stools. Someone with

> low hcl will tend to have " bitsy " stools (full of undigested food),

> where as someone with adequate hcl will tend to have smooth (paste

> like) stools of even consistency.

>

> I personally take ascorbic acid (in capsules) with meals and they have

> worked a treat to reverse my low hcl.

>

> garcia.

>

>

>

> >

> > So here's my question: how did she decide he needs it?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Abbie

> >

>

>

>

>

> DISCLAIMER

> No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If I can just make a suggestion here. There is an enzyme (amylase) in the mouth which breaks down food in the first part of digestion. If at all possible, try and get the children to chew at least 20 times before swallowing..There must be a creative way, a game or such, to facilitate this.

Re: Hydrochloric acid

> Wow didnt know this thanks! Maybe that why has undigestedfood in > her stools.> Luv caroline> xxx> > PS So is taking Ascorbic acid with meals enough to reverse this?Hopefully. It was in my case. I can't say 100% because the stomach isonly 1 part of digestion (though a very important part). Also somethings are just hard to digest - e.g. nuts - so you might have toavoid those (I still can't digest nuts).P.S. if you try this please post back your results (good or bad). Youmight have to play around with dosages.HTH,garcia.

[Guest guest]

Libby,

As far as I know, enzymes have nothing to do with the stomach acid,

but I'm not expert in that. We've raised HCL by using plain ascorbic

acid instead of the buffered vitamin C. It has helped. He gets

about three grams a day. I like the idea of using a supp that has

multiple benefits. The only thing you need to be cautious with is

tooth enamel. I make sure he gets the ascorbic acid at the beginning

of a meal so that he eats and drinks plenty afterwords leaving none

on his teeth.

Some people also raise stomach acid by using stuff like fresh

squeezed lemon juice. If your son likes lemonade made with xylitol,

that approach would be easy too.

Anita

>

> Hello, I had an appointment with my sons Naturopath, and she was

wanting to know if the Houston Trio that he is on, has HCI in it. I

said no. she said that HCI is the stomachs #1 way of digesting food,

and if he was low I would see fermentation of food and foul stool and

bloating. Which is what I am seeing but I thought it was yeast. Does

anyone have experience with HCI. Is it something I need to address in

addition to enzymes. or would the enzymes help level it out anyway?

Thanks, Libby

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Im not sure about this supplment it makes me nervous i did the test

> and get diffrent results is saurkraut enough for digestion thanks

==>You shouldn't be nervous about taking HCl because your stomach

produces it. Sauerkraut may be enough however. I prefer real foods

over supplements any day!

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Tara,

Don't sprinkle it on food - HCl is corrosive to tooth enamel so you do not want to chew it.

If you do not have a natural health practitioner from whom you can order professional products, your best bet is to go to a health food store and look for hydrochloric acid. I'm not sure what Dr. Natasha recommends, but here is what I recommend to my clients:

Everyone's need for HCl is different, so I have clients do the Stomach Challenge Test. Some folks need quite a lot to be effective; others just a bit. To determine your personal need for HCl, take one tablet with each meal. Do this for three days. On day four, if you have not experienced too much acid (which feels like a warm, full feeling or slight heartburn about 20 minutes after the meal), then increase your dosing to 2 tablets with each meal. Do this for three days and keep increasing accordingly, every three days, until you feel the burn. Once you get the burn, back off to whatever your dose was the prior to the increase and hold at that dose. For example, if you feel the burn at 4, back off to 3 and that is your dose with each meal.

There is one major caveat: if someone already has heartburn, or GERD, they should not take HCl. Even though they are hugely lacking it, they must first heal the gut before adding in the supplemental HCl. This is best done under the guidance of a practitioner.

Anne

[ ] Hydrochloric Acid

Dr Natasha reccomends this. I'd like to get some for my dd. How do people use this? Do you give it in a capsule form or sprinkle it on the food....I don't think that would taste very good....but maybe the amount is so small....anyway, I'd love some guidance on this. Thanks. tara

[Guest guest]

What if your child is unable to swallow pills. My daughter is 4.5 yrs and

won't swallow pills. Any suggestions?

Jane

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Anne Fischer-Silva wrote:

> Hi Tara,

>

> Don't sprinkle it on food - HCl is corrosive to tooth enamel so you do not

want to chew it.

> If you do not have a natural health practitioner from whom you can order

professional products, your best bet is to go to a health food store and look

for hydrochloric acid. I'm not sure what Dr. Natasha recommends, but here is

what I recommend to my clients:

>

> Everyone's need for HCl is different, so I have clients do the Stomach

Challenge Test. Some folks need quite a lot to be effective; others just a bit.

To determine your personal need for HCl, take one tablet with each meal. Do

this for three days. On day four, if you have not experienced too much acid

(which feels like a warm, full feeling or slight heartburn about 20 minutes

after the meal), then increase your dosing to 2 tablets with each meal. Do this

for three days and keep increasing accordingly, every three days, until you feel

the burn. Once you get the burn, back off to whatever your dose was the prior

to the increase and hold at that dose. For example, if you feel the burn at 4,

back off to 3 and that is your dose with each meal.

>

> There is one major caveat: if someone already has heartburn, or GERD, they

should not take HCl. Even though they are hugely lacking it, they must first

heal the gut before adding in the supplemental HCl. This is best done under the

guidance of a practitioner.

>

> Anne

[Guest guest]

I would recommend a tsp. of apple cider vinegar with each meal in lieu of the HCl. Anne

Re: [ ] Hydrochloric Acid

What if your child is unable to swallow pills. My daughter is 4.5 yrs and won't swallow pills. Any suggestions?JaneOn Mon, 14 Jan 2008, Anne Fischer-Silva wrote:> Hi Tara,>> Don't sprinkle it on food - HCl is corrosive to tooth enamel so you do not want to chew it.> If you do not have a natural health practitioner from whom you can order professional products, your best bet is to go to a health food store and look for hydrochloric acid. I'm not sure what Dr. Natasha recommends, but here is what I recommend to my clients:>> Everyone's need for HCl is different, so I have clients do the Stomach Challenge Test. Some folks need quite a lot to be effective; others just a bit. To determine your personal need for HCl, take one tablet with each meal. Do this for three days. On day four, if you have not experienced too much acid (which feels like a warm, full feeling or slight heartburn about 20 minutes after the meal), then increase your dosing to 2 tablets with each meal. Do this for three days and keep increasing accordingly, every three days, until you feel the burn. Once you get the burn, back off to whatever your dose was the prior to the increase and hold at that dose. For example, if you feel the burn at 4, back off to 3 and that is your dose with each meal.>> There is one major caveat: if someone already has heartburn, or GERD, they should not take HCl. Even though they are hugely lacking it, they must first heal the gut before adding in the supplemental HCl. This is best done under the guidance of a practitioner.>> Anne