colloidal silver

[Guest guest]

I decided on colloidal Gold which I learn a while back is better than

the C silver. Cost the same on site I ordered from too. Rhonda

>

> I plan to buy this and wonder if there is a better brand of this than

> others. I also ordered from www.sinus-infection-discovery.com a

> product from UK and will tell everyone if it helps my Insane sinus

> problems. It has a 90 day guarantee that you can send back and get a

> refund if it doesn't help you. A researcher discoverd this when

> nothing helped his chronic sinus. The barometer changes have about

> killed me off in the last month.

>

> On another note, nothing has been said from the State Air Quality

> taking a few tape samples from my mold workplace. Think anyone is

> taking mold serious and what it's doing to me? NO! Will keep you

> posted if anything is every said.

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

I looked into coloidal silver at health food

store. However one I looked at by Source

Natural, which is a brand I trust, said NOT to

use it in eyes, which is what I wanted to use it

for. There are lots of things you can use in

ears.

--- austingirl5262 <austingirl5262@...>

wrote:

> I plan to buy this and wonder if there is a

> better brand of this than

> others. I also ordered from

> www.sinus-infection-discovery.com a

> product from UK and will tell everyone if it

> helps my Insane sinus

> problems. It has a 90 day guarantee that you

> can send back and get a

> refund if it doesn't help you. A researcher

> discoverd this when

> nothing helped his chronic sinus. The

> barometer changes have about

> killed me off in the last month.

>

> On another note, nothing has been said from the

> State Air Quality

> taking a few tape samples from my mold

> workplace. Think anyone is

> taking mold serious and what it's doing to me?

> NO! Will keep you

> posted if anything is every said.

>

> Rhonda

>

[Guest guest]

Rhonda,is this stuff you can use in your eyes? I

like and use Source Naturals for many things, but

their colloidal silver (I know not gold

but..)specifically said do not use in eyes. What

about the gold? I want to find something to

treat my eyes that are so irritated usually.

--- austingirl5262 <austingirl5262@...>

wrote:

> I decided on colloidal Gold which I learn a

> while back is better than

> the C silver. Cost the same on site I ordered

> from too. Rhonda

>

>

>

> >

> > I plan to buy this and wonder if there is a

> better brand of this than

> > others. I also ordered from

> www.sinus-infection-discovery.com a

> > product from UK and will tell everyone if it

> helps my Insane sinus

> > problems. It has a 90 day guarantee that you

> can send back and get a

> > refund if it doesn't help you. A researcher

> discoverd this when

> > nothing helped his chronic sinus. The

> barometer changes have about

> > killed me off in the last month.

> >

> > On another note, nothing has been said from

> the State Air Quality

> > taking a few tape samples from my mold

> workplace. Think anyone is

> > taking mold serious and what it's doing to

> me? NO! Will keep you

> > posted if anything is every said.

> >

> > Rhonda

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Rhonda,

I have used several different brands and have noticed no difference. I have

just been sure to go to a decent health food store. It is certainly not a cure

of any kind but when at my worst it sooths the god awful symptoms.

I went back to my affected house to meet with another inspector Monday and now

I know what everyone means when they say they took a hit. It seems like the

first day all over again. I have slept 48 hours and still don't feel like doing

anything. In this situation the silver has brought no relief but without all the

re exposure issues I can't live without it.

Hope this helps...

Chris...

austingirl5262 <austingirl5262@...> wrote:

I plan to buy this and wonder if there is a better brand of this than

others. I also ordered from www.sinus-infection-discovery.com a

product from UK and will tell everyone if it helps my Insane sinus

problems. It has a 90 day guarantee that you can send back and get a

refund if it doesn't help you. A researcher discoverd this when

nothing helped his chronic sinus. The barometer changes have about

killed me off in the last month.

On another note, nothing has been said from the State Air Quality

taking a few tape samples from my mold workplace. Think anyone is

taking mold serious and what it's doing to me? NO! Will keep you

posted if anything is every said.

Rhonda

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[Guest guest]

I would only use colloidal silver in very

limited fashion. I know it was very popular at

one time and they stopped for some reason but I

think it was used alot.

--- Tazin Round <unitedstatesvet@...>

wrote:

> Hi bbw,

> I will be making an eye appointment tommorow

> myself. I will let you

[Guest guest]

I found this and can be used in eyes.

http://www.energeticnutrition.com/hi/dna.html

Going to look some more. Will see what my container says about uses

when I get it.

Rhonda

>

> > I plan to buy this and wonder if there is a

> > better brand of this than

> > others. I also ordered from

> > www.sinus-infection-discovery.com a

> > product from UK and will tell everyone if it

> > helps my Insane sinus

> > problems. It has a 90 day guarantee that you

> > can send back and get a

> > refund if it doesn't help you. A researcher

> > discoverd this when

> > nothing helped his chronic sinus. The

> > barometer changes have about

> > killed me off in the last month.

> >

> > On another note, nothing has been said from the

> > State Air Quality

> > taking a few tape samples from my mold

> > workplace. Think anyone is

> > taking mold serious and what it's doing to me?

> > NO! Will keep you

> > posted if anything is every said.

> >

> > Rhonda

> >

>

[Guest guest]

heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial silver

I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I doing

wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a near

boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i can see

flakes

[Guest guest]

That usually means there are impurities in the water.Are you using distilled . Sometimes this happens even with supposedly distilled water . I have read its OK to drink the water .When it happens you can filter the water or just let the particles settle to the bottom.

.. Wilkins

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From: mikescottmartin <mikescottmartin@...>Subject: [ ] colloidal silver Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:30 AM

heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a near boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i can see flakes

[Guest guest]

this has happened to me using distilled water. All I do is put the cs through a coffee filter.

From: mikescottmartin <mikescottmartin@...> Sent: Sun, November 8, 2009 10:30:40 AMSubject: [ ] colloidal silver

heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a near boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i can see flakes

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You use hot water, too?

Gaele.

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heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a near boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i can see flakes

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And you also use very hot water?

Surprised, Gaele.

[ ] colloidal silver Date: Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:30 AM

heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a near boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i can see flakes

[Guest guest]



Of course I don't boil the water!

I also use room-temperature, distilled water in a glass container.

Didn't anyone else read Mike's post? He uses very hot, nearly boiling water.

He then sits the container on the stove top. Maybe he's making it in a saucepan?

I'm waiting for someone to actually respond to what he wrote...

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I've been taking it for 3 months and haven't turned blue.

Re: [ ] colloidal silver

On 11/8/2009, Keycross (crossshapedkeysverizon (DOT) net) wrote:> Learn about the real colloidal silver which is mild silver protein at> www.islandorganicproducts.comSilver 'protein' is what turns you blue.This just looks like pure marketing hogwash, so they can charge you $10for 4oz of liquid.They go on and on about how plain homemade CS is 'highly toxic' and'ineffective', which totally ignores the FACTS that it is both highlyeffective *and* extremely safe.Bottom line - the site is pure HOGWASH.

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On 11/8/2009, Keycross (crossshapedkeys@...) wrote:

> If you spent any time reading the information on that site, it is the

> original pre 1938 formula that can only be produced in a laboratory

> environment. Silver atoms are different from silver ions. I take

> 5,000ppm daily for systemic candidiasis as this amount is needed in

> order for it get in the bloodstream and do its job. I suppose the

> Doctors quoted on that site that use it on hundreds of patients are

> wrong.

When it comes to the claim that plain old ordinary CS is 'ineffective'

and 'highly toxic', yes, absolutely and without a doubt, they are wrong,

because the evidence to the contrary is voluminous and overwhelming.

Wouldn't be the first time a 'Doctor' that had financial ties to a

certain product lied about both it and its competition.

> I've been taking it for 3 months and haven't turned blue.

2 possibilities - it isn't truly a 'silver salt', they just call it that

- or you haven't taken it long enough.

If it isn't truly a silver salt, then maybe it is effective - and maybe

it is even a higher quality than ordinary home-made CS - but the I'm

reasonably confident the difference isn't enough to justify the

dramatically higher cost, at least for most people (myself included).

[Guest guest]

I would tread cautiously and respect the silver like a antibiotic, or more so.

Colloidal Silver Toxicity - How much is harmful?

Can Colloidal Silver harm you? Almost anything can be harmful if used in excess.

This includes commonly used drugs and even common foods. Potatoes, tomatoes,

wheat, mushrooms, and many other common foods contain toxins and/or carcinogens

or even mostly harmless substances which can be harmful to susceptible

individuals. They don't usually harm us because we limit their consumption to

levels that our body can adapt to, and metabolize.

The bottom line is that small doses of silver seem harmless for most people

while large doses taken in great excess can be toxic. So the question is: What

constitutes a small safe amount and what constitutes a large potentially harmful

amount?

Unfortunately, there is no definitive answer to that question. There is,

however, some information available that can serve as points of reference from

which an " estimate " can be made.

Much of the toxicological data is derived from data on silver salts and silver

proteins with much higher silver content than current electrocolloidal products.

It is also true that colloidal silver, silver salts, and silver proteins cannot

be assumed to produce the same results or have the same toxicities.

In addition to argyria, the intake of very large doses (far in excess of the

amount that causes discoloration of the skin) of silver can cause neurological

damage, organ damage, and arteriosclerosis.

In one research project, dogs died from injections of a type of protein bound

silver in dosages ranging from 500 mg to 1.9 grams of silver depending on the

dosage and frequency of administration. (46) This was equivalent in silver

content to giving a 150 pound adult between 150 and 570 liters of 10 PPM

colloidal silver, or between 75 and 285 liters of 20 PPM colloidal silver, or

between 50 and 190 liters of 30 PPM colloidal silver. The 10 gram estimated

lethal dose for humans from Goodman and Gillman (56) is equivalent in silver

content to 1000 liters of 10 PPM colloidal silver.

In this study (46), the authors were attempting to cause anemia in dogs for

experimental purposes rather than test the effect or safety of colloidal silver.

They injected Collargol, which contains approximately 87% silver with the

remainder being albuminous proteins.

In one test, they injected 500 mg of Collargol into a 23 kg dog. The dog died 12

hours later. They further noted that doses of 1.3 to 1.5 grams of Collargol are

tolerated (before death occurs) if divided and given at the proper intervals

over a period of 3 to 7 days. Single doses of 200 to 300 mg were well tolerated.

Death usually followed a single large dose.

Upon necropsy, the following pathological changes were noted:

(1) There was moderate congestion and marked edema of the lungs.

(2) The reticuloendothelial cells of the liver and spleen contained coarse

silver deposits. So did lymph nodes, bone marrow, and to a lesser degree, the

kidneys.

(3) The bone marrow showed slight to marked hyperplasia with no death to

the parent cells and contained many mononuclear cells filled with brown (silver)

pigment.

(4) The hematocrit dropped 10 to 14 percent.

(5) There was a slimy exudate from the nose.

(6) Those overdosed over a longer time period became emaciated.

The administration of smaller doses, 20 to 50 mg over intervals resulted in

mild leukocytosis and an increase in hematocrit.

The authors reference another article in which a human died two hours after

receiving an intravenous injection of 50 mg Collargol. An autopsy revealed

changes nearly identical to those described for the dogs.

More recently, Motohashi performed an experiment in which Collargum was

injected into rabbits. After the injection, he observed that the hemophages

began " ingesting the animal's own erythrocytes abnormally. " He determined that

the minimum dose of injected Collargum into rabbits which caused increased

hemophage activity was 1 cc of a 1:10000 dillution per kilogram of weight. (123)

In another case (47), an individual ingested an estimated 124 grams of silver

nitrate over a period of 9 years. She developed argyria and an assortment of

neurological symptoms as well. The authors note that the silver tended to

complex with sulfur in the form of Ag2S. A moderate presence of silver-sulfur

granules were seen in the perineural tissue, in the peripheral nerves and along

the elastic fibers, and to a lesser extent along the collagenous fibers, and in

macrophages. These deposits were noted to have an affinity for basal membranes.

The neurological manifestations included taste and smell disorders, vertigo, and

hyeresthesia. This report is often used by critics to attribute neurological

disorders to colloidal silver consumption. For comparisons to be meaningful,

differences in dosage regimens must be accounted for.

It may be helpful to put this in perspective with the quantity of silver that is

consumed in food and drinking water from natural sources. The EPA publishes a

reference dose (RFD) for silver which is an estimate of daily exposure to the

entire population that is unlikely to be associated with a significant risk of

adverse effects over a lifetime. The current RFD for oral silver exposure is 5

micrograms/kg/day with a critical dose estimated at 14 micrograms/kg/day. The

maximum contaminant level proposed by the EPA for silver in the drinking water

is less than 0.1 mg/L (less than 0.1 PPM).

Based on this RFD, a 150 pound adult should not exceed 350 micrograms/day. If

the silver in drinking water meets EPA standards, an average person drinking 2

liters per day will consume less than 200 micrograms of silver. In addition the

daily diet may contain about 90 micrograms of silver. (63) 350 micrograms of

silver is equivalent to 70 milliliters (14 tsp) of 5 PPM colloidal silver. This

is the amount that the EPA standards permit an individual to consume from

natural sources.

Some researchers have suggested that a deficiency of selenium and vitamin E may

increase the susceptibility to systemic silver toxicity. It was hypothesized

that silver toxicity, as manifested by liver necrosis in laboratory rats, was

due to silver induced inhibition of the synthesis of the seleno-enzyme

glutathione peroxidase. Bunyan, et. al., showed that rats supplemented with

selenium or vitamin E tolerated a silver exposure of as high as 140 mcg/kg/day.

(63)

It is also necessary to remember that some individuals have allergies to

specific metals. Nickel, copper, silver, and other metals have been known to

cause allergic reactions. Be certain that you are not allergic to silver before

taking colloidal silver.

Colloidal Silver: A Literature Review: Medical Uses, Toxicology & Manufacture -

Third Edition - By Hill

This book is the most comprehensive and objective reference on colloidal silver

available. It covers what is known about colloidal silver, what it does, how it

works, and what its risk of toxicity is. This third edition has incorporated a

lot of new information from recent research and development activity. Argyria

and silver toxicity is addressed in detail from an objective perspective.

Information from both old and recent medical and scientific publications is

summarized and presented in an objective framework. It covers medical

applications, mechanisms of action, absorption and elimination and other related

aspects. The basic process of making colloidal silver by the low voltage

cathodic method is discussed. 136 references are cited.

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> > > Learn about the real colloidal silver which is mild silver protein at

> > > www.islandorganicproducts.com

> >

> > Silver 'protein' is what turns you blue.

> >

> > This just looks like pure marketing hogwash, so they can charge you $10

> > for 4oz of liquid.

> >

> > They go on and on about how plain homemade CS is 'highly toxic' and

> > 'ineffective', which totally ignores the FACTS that it is both highly

> > effective *and* extremely safe.

> >

> > Bottom line - the site is pure HOGWASH.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Keycross,

This happens when the rods and utensils are not properly cleaned and when it is

not rinsed in distilled water prior to use.

If you want to make a stronger brew, wrap your glass container in aluminum foil,

tie a metal wire around the jar, ise copper wire, starting with one end as a

knot, and the other end you prepare as a prong to put in the ground socket of

the three prong outlet. Brew your CS in a dark place. You should see your brew

increase. This method is removing the electromagnetic field around the brew. I

learned this from Karl of a CS group.

>

> Learn about the real colloidal silver which is mild silver protein at

> www.islandorganicproducts.com

>

> Keycross

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> heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making collodial

silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and if so what am I

doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure silver.9999 taking water to a

near boil and sitting on the stove top with boiling water and after 10 mins i

can see flakes

>

[Guest guest]

I have never heard of putting it on the stove to boil. You might want to

check on this at...

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>> heres a question about making collodial silver when I'm making

>> collodial silver I see flakes of silver floating around is that bad and

>> if so what am I doing wrong I'm using 2 9vdc batteries and pure

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>> boiling water and after 10 mins i can see flakes

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