Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I would use MMS1 for clostridium for myself also would use coloidial silver water. IN NC --- In , " G " <luckylot@...> wrote: > > Does anyone know, if the MMS protocol will work for a recurrent case of clostridia bacteria in the gut? An OAT shows high HPHPA, we have tried flagyl three times and it always returns. Since the MMS seems to address bacteria, I am wondering if this is something we should try with our son. > > Thanks > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 On 19 Oct 2009 at 2:53, G wrote about : Subject : [ ] MMS fo > Does anyone know, if the MMS protocol will work for a recurrent case of > clostridia bacteria in the gut? An OAT shows high HPHPA, we have tried > flagyl three times and it always returns. Since the MMS seems to address > bacteria, I am wondering if this is something we should try with our son. > > Thanks > > > Have you tried using electro unit like a Hulda Zapper? Also ? any of the natural chelating agents, like tumeric to get rid of mercury. Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Hi Tony, I have never tried an electro unit, do they have a good proven success rate with bacteria? We are currently chelating our son with DMSA and ALA. We cook with Tumeric, but do not use it in supplement form. > Have you tried using electro unit like a Hulda Zapper? > > Also ? any of the natural chelating agents, like tumeric to get rid of > mercury. > > Tony > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 , I didn't know there were different MMS solutions. Where can this be found and what is the protocol, can I find that in the files? I will take a look, thanks! --- In , " laura " <montemomma2002@...> wrote: > > I would use MMS1 for clostridium for myself also would use coloidial silver water. > IN NC > > --- In , " G " <luckylot@> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know, if the MMS protocol will work for a recurrent case of clostridia bacteria in the gut? An OAT shows high HPHPA, we have tried flagyl three times and it always returns. Since the MMS seems to address bacteria, I am wondering if this is something we should try with our son. > > > > Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 >> On 19 Oct 2009 at 2:53, G wrote about :> Subject : [ ] MMS fo> > > Does anyone know, if the MMS protocol will work for a recurrent case of> > clostridia bacteria in the gut? An OAT shows high HPHPA, we have tried> > flagyl three times and it always returns. Since the MMS seems to address> > bacteria, I am wondering if this is something we should try with our son.> > > > Thanks> > Chitinase -...Mon, October 19, 2009 11:28:13 PMFrom:Willow Morningsky <willowmorningsky@...> ...View CardTo:elandismn@...InterFase Plus® Specialized enzymes (Chitinase) and EDTA disrupt biofilm matrix embedding potential gastrointestinal pathogens.http://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INTP ================= Specialized enzymes and EDTA disrupt biofilm matrix embedding potential gastrointestinal pathogens. InterFase Plus® provides the same unique enzyme formulation as InterFase® with the addition of ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA). The presence of calcium, iron, and magnesium is essential for biofilm creation and serves to cross-link the anionic regions for polymers. InterFase Plus® includes ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid (EDTA) which binds the metals needed for biofilm formation. Biofilm consists of microorganisms encased within a self-produced matrix of exopolysaccharides and exoproteins that strongly adheres to interfaces and resists dislodgement. Microorganisms residing within biofilms are highly resistant to antimicrobials including antibiotics and bacteriocins produced by probiotics. InterFase Plus® is a unique enzyme formulation with EDTA that is especially designed to disrupt the biofilm matrix that embeds potential gastrointestinal pathogens. Enzymes in InterFase Plus® are selected for their ability to lyse the extracellular polymers commonly found in biofilm as well as degrade bacterial and yeast cell wall structures. The enzyme blend in InterFase Plus® was developed using in vitro testing of antibiofilm activity and was found to have significant antibiofilm activity resulting in meaningful degradation of biofilm communities of potentially pathogenic bacteria and yeast. InterFase Plus® is intended for use in conjunction with efforts to support normal gastrointestinal function and microflora. As an adjunct to other efforts to eliminate potential pathogens, it is best combined with use of a high-potency, broad, multispecies probiotic formulation and a prebiotic to encourage the formation of healthy intestinal microbial biofilm communities. It may also be combined with antimicrobial agents. The capsules should be taken away from meals to maximize the enzyme effects. Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take 2 to 8 capsules daily between meals or as directed by a healthcare professional. K-INTP 120 vegetarian capsules Supplement Facts Serving Size 2 Capsules Amount Per 2 Capsules % Daily Value Proprietary Enzyme**/EDTA Blend 750 mg * With the following active enzymes: Polysaccharide Specific Enzymes Glucoamylase (with isomaltase side chain activity) Chitosanase Cellulase Hemicellulase/Pectinase Complex Beta-Glucanase Protein and Peptide Specific Enzymes Protease/Peptidase Complex with DPP-IV endo-peptidase/exo-peptidase activity Other Enzymes Lysozyme (from egg white) Serratia peptidase (enteric-coated)*** EDTA (as disodium EDTA) * Daily value not established Other Ingredients: Vegetarian capsule (hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, water), cellulose, and L-leucine. Caution: Individuals with known egg white allergy should consult their physician before using this product. ** Patent Pending. ProThera, Inc. *** Peptizyme SP®, a registered trademark of Specialty Enzymes. These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. ProThera, Inc. 10439 Double R Blvd • Reno, NV 89521 1-888-488-2488 • 775-850-8800 VOICE • 775-850-8810 FAX Privacy & Legal Statements Respect for All Life ... as philosophy,Kindness and Compassion ... as religion,Willow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2009 Report Share Posted October 21, 2009 Doesn't this need to be used in conjunction with the biofilm protocol? I also read that using Houston Enzymes No Fenol had a similar effect in breaking through cell walls allowing our immune system to take care of the pathogens. We use No Fenol in conjunction with Oil or Oregano, Olive Leaf Extract and Biotin. We have to do this three times a day at minimum, then we give high dose probiotics at bedtime. By looking into MMS, I am trying to find something that doesn't kill ALL gut flora, I want to stop killing, killing, killing and start building up the good gut flora, but even at high doses of probiotics (broad spectrum, sacc b and Culturelle) we can't do without the natural antifungal/bacterials...The MMS appears to address gut pathogens without affecting the good flora. This is very appealing! Of course, we have the additional issue of heavy metals which we are in the process of removing, ever so slowly. I just hope to add something to our routine that helps with the dysbiosis balance. > > > > On 19 Oct 2009 at 2:53, G wrote about : > > Subject : [ ] MMS fo > > > > > Does anyone know, if the MMS protocol will work for a recurrent case > of > > > clostridia bacteria in the gut? An OAT shows high HPHPA, we have > tried > > > flagyl three times and it always returns. Since the MMS seems to > address > > > bacteria, I am wondering if this is something we should try with our > son. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Chitinase -...Mon, October 19, 2009 11:28:13 PMFrom:Willow Morningsky > <willowmorningsky@...> > <http://help./mail/ymail/ymail-01.html> ...View > CardTo:elandismn@... > InterFase Plus® > <https://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INTP> > Specialized enzymes (Chitinase) and EDTA disrupt biofilm matrix > embedding potential gastrointestinal pathogens. > > http://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INTP > <http://www.protherainc.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INTP> > ================= > > Specialized enzymes and EDTA disrupt biofilm matrix embedding potential > gastrointestinal pathogens. > > InterFase Plus® provides the same unique enzyme formulation as > InterFase® with the addition of ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid > (EDTA). The presence of calcium, iron, and magnesium is essential for > biofilm creation and serves to cross-link the anionic regions for > polymers. InterFase Plus® includes ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid > (EDTA) which binds the metals needed for biofilm formation. Biofilm > consists of microorganisms encased within a self-produced matrix of > exopolysaccharides and exoproteins that strongly adheres to interfaces > and resists dislodgement. Microorganisms residing within biofilms are > highly resistant to antimicrobials including antibiotics and > bacteriocins produced by probiotics. InterFase Plus® is a unique > enzyme formulation with EDTA that is especially designed to disrupt the > biofilm matrix that embeds potential gastrointestinal pathogens. Enzymes > in InterFase Plus® are selected for their ability to lyse the > extracellular polymers commonly found in biofilm as well as degrade > bacterial and yeast cell wall structures. The enzyme blend in > InterFase Plus® was developed using in vitro testing of > antibiofilm activity and was found to have significant > antibiofilm activity resulting in meaningful degradation of biofilm > communities of potentially pathogenic bacteria and yeast. > InterFase Plus® is intended for use in conjunction with efforts > to support normal gastrointestinal function and microflora. As an > adjunct to other efforts to eliminate potential pathogens, it is best > combined with use of a high-potency, broad, multispecies probiotic > formulation and a prebiotic to encourage the formation of healthy > intestinal microbial biofilm communities. It may also be combined with > antimicrobial agents. The capsules should be taken away from meals > to maximize the enzyme effects. > > Suggested Use: As a dietary supplement, take 2 to 8 capsules daily > between meals or as directed by a healthcare professional. > > K-INTP 120 vegetarian capsules > > > > > Supplement Facts > Serving Size 2 Capsules > Amount Per 2 Capsules > % Daily Value > Proprietary Enzyme**/EDTA Blend 750 mg > * > With the following active enzymes: > > Polysaccharide > Specific Enzymes > > Glucoamylase (with > isomaltase side chain activity) > > Chitosanase > > Cellulase > > > Hemicellulase/Pectinase Complex > > Beta-Glucanase > > Protein and Peptide > Specific Enzymes > > Protease/Peptidase > Complex with DPP-IV endo-peptidase/exo-peptidase activity > > Other Enzymes > > Lysozyme (from egg > white) > > Serratia peptidase > (enteric-coated)*** > > EDTA (as disodium > EDTA) > > > * Daily value not established > Other Ingredients: Vegetarian capsule (hydroxypropyl methylcellulose, > water), cellulose, and L-leucine. > > Caution: Individuals with known egg white allergy should consult their > physician before using this product. > > ** Patent Pending. ProThera, Inc. > *** Peptizyme SP®, a registered trademark of Specialty Enzymes. > > These statements have not been evaluated by the Food > and Drug Administration. These products are not > intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any > disease. > > ProThera, Inc. 10439 Double R Blvd • Reno, NV 89521 > 1-888-488-2488 • 775-850-8800 VOICE • 775-850-8810 FAX > Privacy & Legal Statements <http://www.protherainc.com/legal.asp> > > Respect for All Life ... as philosophy, > Kindness and Compassion ... as religion, > Willow > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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