Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 In a message dated 3/29/02 10:10:36 AM Eastern Standard Time, caloson@... writes: > Hi, I have Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, and I was > wondering if adding charcoal to my diet,if that would > help to absorb the toxins in my body, I've posted here > before and never got a reply, if charcoal would help, > could i be told what type to get and how much, thank > you Caloson@... > All I know about charcoal is that it is good for absorbing, but I don't know WHAT it absorbs or how much to take. I'm sure you'll get responses from others who are more knowledgeable about charcoal, but I just wanted to ask how long you've been dealing with the CFS and what else you've done in regard to dietary habits or supplements or things of that nature to deal with it? in health, rachel~ " Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right " - Henry Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 where can I find that CFS research list please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 26, 2004 Report Share Posted October 26, 2004 > I am working diligently on holistically healing my 8 yr > old daughter whom I feel if left as is would be a candidate for > something like this, but was just wondering if there is anything out > there. Hi Kari; That question might be better answered on the cfs_research list. Some of the people there are very advanced. Interestingly, one fellow just posted 75 glutathione references for cfs treatment in the last few days. regards, Duncan Crow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2004 Report Share Posted October 27, 2004 > where can I find that CFS research list please? > > cfs_research Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I have been taking LDN 4.5 nightly for almost 5 years with excellent results for CFS. My symptom improvement is much less fatigue, (up all day long, sleep very well at night), much better memory, a lot less sickness. Hope this helps you. Aloha, Sunny Sedlock 7117 Park Terrace Drive andria, VA 22307 703-998-0272 - Home Office 703-888-9412 - Cell 2002Eldo@...- E-Mail EJS11715@... - E-Mail low dose naltrexone From: toni@...Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 09:05:19 -0700Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Hello everyone. I just joined this group because I'm trying to find out if anyone who has been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome has benefited from taking LDN. I was given the antiviral Valcyte because I have high titers for EBV and HHV-6. I fit the profile of those for whom the drug is working, but it did not work for me even though I stayed on it for a whole year, so I'm looking for other possible treatments.I am housebound and mostly bedbound with CFS. I have no pain, just devastating fatigue that requires me to take naps every 3-4 hours. I can only be up out of bed for about 45 minutes at a time.I look forward to any information that any of you might have to offer.Thanks so much.Toni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Hi Toni, I have CFS, and started LDN three years ago. It gave me a "lift" in energy. I continue to take it, as a measure of good health, as I feel it is protecting my immune system. Question, and you might want to email me personally, so we can dialogue in depth---------who put you on the antibiotics for that long? Were you worse or better when you started? Reason I'm asking, is that I have been on several antibiotics for four months, and spiraled downward, and am at a "crossroads". My personal email, mwilliams6@.... I would appreciate hearing from you. Sara Mom/Grammie to eight "Trying to live by my priorities rather then my pressures". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Dear Toni - I also have CFS and have just joined this group. I’ve had CFS for 6 years, and both of my sons have it also. I’ve been on LDN for about two months now (plus three months last fall), and it is the first thing that has made a significant difference in six years! I have more energy and often feel like my “old” self now. I’ve even been able to begin exercising again – taking walks most days and starting some very limited weight training. LDN is definitely not a cure – I still have CFS, still need a nap every afternoon, still have to be somewhat careful not to overdo, still can’t have any dairy products or alcohol, etc. BUT, I feel much better than I have in years, my stamina is greatly improved, and my quality of life is improved overall. I have done very well on 3 mg, taken at bedtime. I recently switched to 4.5 mg and felt much worse (than on 3 mg). Last night, I switched back to 3 mg and woke up this morning feeling good again. The positive effect is immediate. Anyone else out there do well at a lower dose and worse at 4.5 mg? Sue www.livewithcfs.blogspot.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I was diagnosed at the age of 19 (36 now). It was still a skeptical syndrome at that point and had just been renamed from " the yuppie flu " . Mine isn't really treated. I take vitamins, exercise. My Fibromyalgia then became my main health issue, and now my main issue is the inflammatory arthritis/connective tissue disease. Although I still get extremely fatigued I'm more limited due to high levels of pain that I never had when it was just the CFS. getcoffee@... wrote: I am curious to know how those of you who have been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome were diagnosed. What was the process? Were you prescribed provigil and did the insurance actually cover it? (considering Provigil is not FDA approved for CFS?) Thanks, Abby In a message dated 4/15/2008 1:00:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stephieann2@... writes: so hope that they prescribe it for you too! I've read a few posts from those that have CFS and it seems to be helping them! I know fatigue is so frustrating. There are days I lay around all day literally, and other days, I can get small surges of energy. Keep me updated! And good luck!! **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Abby, I haven't been diagnosed w/ CFS...but I do suffer from chronic fatigue from RA/fibromyalgia. I am trying to get prescribed provigil. I had to get a sleep study done to r/o sleep apnea. Sleep apnea symptoms can become worse on a medication like provigil (that is what I was told anyways). I will let you know my process since I am in the middle of it right now. I do have other health problems besides RA/fibro. Since provigil is a new medication, some insurance companies won't cover it if you don't have nacrolepsy. I don't know if insurances will cover ADHD medication (stimulants) for CFS. I am curious to know how those of you who have been diagnosed with chronic > fatigue syndrome were diagnosed. What was the process? > > Were you prescribed provigil and did the insurance actually cover it? > (considering Provigil is not FDA approved for CFS?) > > Thanks, > Abby > > > In a message dated 4/15/2008 1:00:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > stephieann2@... writes: > > so hope that they prescribe it for you too! I've read a few posts from those > that have CFS and it seems to be helping them! I know fatigue is so > frustrating. There are days I lay around all day literally, and other days, I can > get small surges of energy. Keep me updated! And good luck!! > > **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & > Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 I would like to respond to the CFS messages; I had CFS for 7 years...nothing worked to make get better until I finally went to a doctor who put me on a diet for Candida...basically it's like the South Beach diet. I had no sugars of any kind and finally worked up to an apple...but ate all the veggies and meat that I wanted....I started with nistatin to kill of the yeast and that about killed me...but after 2 months I was back to normal. To this day I hardly drink juices with sugar and I'm careful about certain fruits....... Barb G. getcoffee@... wrote: I am curious to know how those of you who have been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome were diagnosed. What was the process? Were you prescribed provigil and did the insurance actually cover it? (considering Provigil is not FDA approved for CFS?) Thanks, Abby In a message dated 4/15/2008 1:00:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stephieann2@... writes: so hope that they prescribe it for you too! I've read a few posts from those that have CFS and it seems to be helping them! I know fatigue is so frustrating. There are days I lay around all day literally, and other days, I can get small surges of energy. Keep me updated! And good luck!! **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 your probible deficeint in sulfur it may give you a really bad flare to take it start with a low dose and doctors okay stephanie <stephieann2@...> wrote: I was diagnosed at the age of 19 (36 now). It was still a skeptical syndrome at that point and had just been renamed from " the yuppie flu " . Mine isn't really treated. I take vitamins, exercise. My Fibromyalgia then became my main health issue, and now my main issue is the inflammatory arthritis/connective tissue disease. Although I still get extremely fatigued I'm more limited due to high levels of pain that I never had when it was just the CFS. getcoffee@... wrote: I am curious to know how those of you who have been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome were diagnosed. What was the process? Were you prescribed provigil and did the insurance actually cover it? (considering Provigil is not FDA approved for CFS?) Thanks, Abby In a message dated 4/15/2008 1:00:48 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, stephieann2@... writes: so hope that they prescribe it for you too! I've read a few posts from those that have CFS and it seems to be helping them! I know fatigue is so frustrating. There are days I lay around all day literally, and other days, I can get small surges of energy. Keep me updated! And good luck!! **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolcmp00300000002850) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I see Dr. G for this--I just started the protocol this week. The things you describe are pretty close to my experience. I stay at home with my kids but hoped to go back to work when my youngest started Kindergarten this year. I have terrific headaches that usually end up as migraines. The fatigue is relentless and ever present, even in the morning when I've just gotten up. Exercise does help, though, so I really try to stay on a schedule. Has your husband had his titers for HHV 6 and Epstein Barr checked? I'm awaiting results on HHV 6, but my titers for EBV are over 1,000 and my we finally got my ASO titers down to just below 1,000. My recommendation would be to go to some of the sites for CFIDS and see if they have a physician referral section. I did find this support group in your area. They probably have a list of doctors in the Bay Area that treat CFS. http://www.prohealth.com/supportgroups/supportgroup.cfm/id/1625/type/CFS/dbo/CFI\ DS_FM Good luck, Robyn From: Caroline <carrieps@...> Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:40 PM Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are starting to wonder whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are associated with CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, fatigue to the point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the afternoons, brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work on a task. He went to his internist who did some testing and there was no clear answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does not see a point in going back to his internist. I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I would love information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and treatment if this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San Francisco. I am guessing we could find somebody around here who knows something about CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Very similar symptoms - I have CFS or fibromyalgia as well. Doxycycline is very very helpful and may be an option for him to get him going. On the 3rd day of it, I tend to notice the fog lift and the energy perk up. I'm on it long term now and can't function without it. It would be easy enough to convince an internist to try while you look further. Gotta cut out the carbs and sugar, though, since he won't get antifungals to go along with it, which will make him yeasty and mess up his gut, but if he watches his diet it may not get so bad. HTH- ________________________________ From: Caroline <carrieps@...> Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 3:40:35 PM Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are starting to wonder whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are associated with CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, fatigue to the point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the afternoons, brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work on a task. He went to his internist who did some testing and there was no clear answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does not see a point in going back to his internist. I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I would love information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and treatment if this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San Francisco. I am guessing we could find somebody around here who knows something about CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 What is Dr. G's protocol? I am seeing a Fatigue Doc and I also have a autistic son and I tested postitive for HHV6, Mycoplasma and CMV. Does anyone else have any of these? I am going to be on Valtrex and Doxycline..... I son tested for HHV6 but he was never tested for the others so I will be doing that for him next. Thanks From: Caroline <carriepspobox (DOT) com> Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:40 PM Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are starting to wonder whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are associated with CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, fatigue to the point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the afternoons, brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work on a task. He went to his internist who did some testing and there was no clear answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does not see a point in going back to his internist. I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I would love information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and treatment if this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San Francisco. I am guessing we could find somebody around here who knows something about CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I have fibromyalgia and possible CFS as well. Right now I'm being treated for EBV and HHV 6. I also have really high strep titers that we have difficulty keeping below 1,000. What exactly does the Doxycycline do for you? What aspect of your disease is it treating? TIA, Robyn > From: <thecolemans4@...> > Subject: Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:50 PM > Very similar symptoms - I have CFS or fibromyalgia as > well. Doxycycline is very very helpful and may be an > option for him to get him going. On the 3rd day of it, I > tend to notice the fog lift and the energy perk up. > I'm on it long term now and can't function without > it. It would be easy enough to convince an internist to > try while you look further. Gotta cut out the carbs and > sugar, though, since he won't get antifungals to go > along with it, which will make him yeasty and mess up his > gut, but if he watches his diet it may not get so bad. > HTH- > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Caroline <carrieps@...> > > Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 3:40:35 PM > Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > > Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are > starting to wonder > whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are > associated with > CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, > fatigue to the > point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the > afternoons, > brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work > on a task. He > went to his internist who did some testing and there was no > clear > answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does > not see a > point in going back to his internist. > > I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I > would love > information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and > treatment if > this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San > Francisco. I am > guessing we could find somebody around here who knows > something about > CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I also found this place in Reno. Looks very promising! http://www.wpinstitute.org/index.html Robyn > > From: Caroline <carrieps@...> > Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:40 PM > > > > > > > Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are > starting to wonder > whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are > associated with > CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, > fatigue to the > point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the > afternoons, > brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work > on a task. He > went to his internist who did some testing and there was no > clear > answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does > not see a > point in going back to his internist. > > I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I > would love > information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and > treatment if > this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San > Francisco. I am > guessing we could find somebody around here who knows > something about > CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hey Robyn- My ASO goes up to 1100 ish when not on doxy, a few months on it took it down to 600 at some point (and symptoms were definitely down @ that level), but not being able to sustain the therapy without sufficient antifungals, I had to stop, and ASO went back up to 1100 area again. The first year, I believe I had actual chronic strep, and maybe the second year. I've also had chronic mycoplasma for years I believe - have had a few positive tests but my 'asthma' resolved when treated as if mycoplasma (again, doxycycline - my wonder drug). Anyway, now that I'm pretty sure I don't have any strep whatsoever, my titers still rise. Doxycycline has immune modulating effects that I believe are what benefits me - and fortunately it's relatively safe to treat with long term. It is also being used by some for immune modulating for people with rheumatoid arthritis and a lot of other meds. The downside - it's rough if you don't have antifungals. I have recently started the protocol too - the antifungals, a sufficient dose of diflucan, and my first allergy med I've ever been able to stick to - Allegra - didn't think I needed an allergy med myself but it is helping my chronic gastritis (if that's what is is since it hasn't been verified by scope but sure acts like it) a great deal. I can't say I've experienced a great deal of improvement yet although there are times I think I have more energy than I would otherwise have, but I've had some acute stress that whacks out my brain as well (I actually had an acute OCD attack where I couldn't stop washing my hands, and it was triggered by a stressful event - not something I was happy to accept since I don't want to consider this all 'psych' - and realistically I know for sure it isn't but it sure does bring to light the impact stress has on this illness). I'm hoping antivirals will help with my natural killer cells (low 2%) and that in return, maybe they will indirectly help with my ASO - if they downregulate that response. I am not sure if that is a correct hypothesis and I'm sure it leaves a lot off. HTH- ________________________________ From: Robyn & Greg Coggins <rngcoggs@...> Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2008 1:43:46 PM Subject: Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome I have fibromyalgia and possible CFS as well. Right now I'm being treated for EBV and HHV 6. I also have really high strep titers that we have difficulty keeping below 1,000. What exactly does the Doxycycline do for you? What aspect of your disease is it treating? TIA, Robyn > From: <thecolemans4> > Subject: Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > groups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:50 PM > Very similar symptoms - I have CFS or fibromyalgia as > well. Doxycycline is very very helpful and may be an > option for him to get him going. On the 3rd day of it, I > tend to notice the fog lift and the energy perk up. > I'm on it long term now and can't function without > it. It would be easy enough to convince an internist to > try while you look further. Gotta cut out the carbs and > sugar, though, since he won't get antifungals to go > along with it, which will make him yeasty and mess up his > gut, but if he watches his diet it may not get so bad. > HTH- > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > From: Caroline <carriepspobox (DOT) com> > groups (DOT) com > Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 3:40:35 PM > Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > > Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are > starting to wonder > whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are > associated with > CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, > fatigue to the > point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the > afternoons, > brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work > on a task. He > went to his internist who did some testing and there was no > clear > answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does > not see a > point in going back to his internist. > > I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I > would love > information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and > treatment if > this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San > Francisco. I am > guessing we could find somebody around here who knows > something about > CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Thanks, . This is all so confusing! Dr. G did tell me that some of my OCD type behaviors may be attributed to the high strep titers. It's nice to have some labs back this stuff up. For so long, I thought it was all in my head and that I was not that good at coping with stress. It also helps me understand how my kids feel on a daily basis. It was certainly eye opening! Thanks for the information. All the best, Robyn > > > From: <thecolemans4> > > Subject: Re: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > groups (DOT) com > > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 5:50 PM > > Very similar symptoms - I have CFS or fibromyalgia as > > well. Doxycycline is very very helpful and may be an > > option for him to get him going. On the 3rd day of > it, I > > tend to notice the fog lift and the energy perk up. > > I'm on it long term now and can't function > without > > it. It would be easy enough to convince an internist > to > > try while you look further. Gotta cut out the carbs > and > > sugar, though, since he won't get antifungals to > go > > along with it, which will make him yeasty and mess up > his > > gut, but if he watches his diet it may not get so bad. > > HTH- > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: Caroline <carriepspobox (DOT) com> > > groups (DOT) com > > Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 3:40:35 PM > > Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > > > > > > Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are > > starting to wonder > > whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that > are > > associated with > > CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, > > fatigue to the > > point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in > the > > afternoons, > > brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or > work > > on a task. He > > went to his internist who did some testing and there > was no > > clear > > answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but > does > > not see a > > point in going back to his internist. > > > > I know there are people on this list who have CFS and > I > > would love > > information on what we should do to get a diagnosis > and > > treatment if > > this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San > > Francisco. I am > > guessing we could find somebody around here who knows > > something about > > CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Can anyone direct me if I am on the right path, please!!!!!!! From: Caroline <carriepspobox (DOT) com> Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome groups (DOT) com Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:40 PM Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are starting to wonder whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are associated with CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, fatigue to the point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the afternoons, brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work on a task. He went to his internist who did some testing and there was no clear answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does not see a point in going back to his internist. I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I would love information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and treatment if this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San Francisco. I am guessing we could find somebody around here who knows something about CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2008 Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Hi, . It sounds as if you're on the right path. I have EBV and HHV 6 in addition to high strep titers. He's treating me with 500mg Famvir three times per day. We're waiting on test results before we treat for strep. I've been on the Famvir for a week now and am seeing some positives already. All the best, Robyn > > From: Caroline <carriepspobox (DOT) com> > Subject: Chronic Fatigue Syndrome > groups (DOT) com > Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 1:40 PM > > Our daughter is being seen by Dr. Goldberg and we are > starting to wonder > whether my husband may be experiencing symptoms that are > associated with > CFS. His symptoms have included joint pain, headaches, > fatigue to the > point where he needs to go to his car to take a nap in the > afternoons, > brain fog where nothing he does helps in to focus or work > on a task. He > went to his internist who did some testing and there was no > clear > answer. He wants to figure out what is going on but does > not see a > point in going back to his internist. > > I know there are people on this list who have CFS and I > would love > information on what we should do to get a diagnosis and > treatment if > this indeed what he is dealing with. We are in San > Francisco. I am > guessing we could find somebody around here who knows > something about > CFS, we just don't even know what to look for. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2009 Report Share Posted October 22, 2009 Could MMS cure this ? Smitty ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dr. Gabe Mirkin's Fitness and Health E-Zine October 25, 2009 A New Explanation for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Sixty-seven percent of 101 patients diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS) were found to be infected with a retrovirus called XMRV (Science, published online October 8, 2009). One hundred percent of those with CFS who subsequently developed lymphomas or leukemias were infected with the XMRV virus. If further studies confirm this finding, doctors will soon have a test to diagnose this horrible condition and possibly a vaccine to prevent it. More than a million Americans are seriously ill with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, also known as Myalgic encephalomyelitis. CFS symptoms include severe weakness, exhaustion after any activity, loss of memory, and chronic recurrent infections. Patients rarely recover. The retrovirus XMRV was first found in humans in 2006, in prostate cancer cells. It has been shown to cause nerve damage, immune deficiency, lymphoma and leukemia in animals. Retroviruses do not have their own DNA; they use the DNA of the host cells they invade. Retroviruses include HIV that causes AIDS, and Human Lymphotropic Viruses that cause leukemia and lymphoma. Just as some people infected with HIV do not develop AIDS, not everyone infected with XMRV will develop CFS. XMRV has been found in 3.7 percent of healthy Americans tested, adding up to an estimated 10 million Americans carrying this virus. Although not proven yet, there is every reason to believe that XMRV is spread by exposure to body fluids (saliva, blood, semen). Having an infection with one of these retroviruses impairs your immunity so that you are more likely to become infected when exposured to any other germ. *********************************************** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 ** L Form Bacteria has an effect on human health, chronic inflammatory and autoimmune diseases including sarcoidosis, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome** If the above statement is correct, has anyone had any experience using MMS for Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. If so, what dosage & regimen did you use & was it successful? RobI am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users.It has removed 13076 spam emails to date.Paying users do not have this message in their emails.Try SPAMfighter for free now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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