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On 10/14/2009, gtbradford (gtbradford@...) wrote:

> Does anyone have any info on Chloramine ? . . I raed this last alot

> longer than HICO , and is used in alot of pools . . . Not sure if it

> can be consumed .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine

Assuming you meant hypochlorous acid (HOCl) (not HICO - thats an L, not

an I) -

1. with MMS2, you aren't consuming HOCl, you are consuming calcium

hypochlorite (info also available at above link), which converts to HOCl

once it mixes with the water you drink along with it when taking it, and

2. it is nothing like HOCl, and

3. according to the wiki page, it has a " ... tendency to convert organic

materials into chlorocarbons such as chloroform and carbon

tetrachloride. Such compounds have been identified as

carcinogens... " .

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Yes, I've looked into chloramine a little because it is an amine, and my family

is sensitive to amines. It's my understanding (though I could be wrong) that

some chlorine in the water supply will turn into chloramine, so it will always

be there. I didn't think of it as different to filter out than reg chlorine.

We installed a whole house filter as well as an additional filter on the kitchen

sink, which seems to help a lot. I know it filters out the chlorine, like I

said I didn't think of the chloramiine is a separate filtering need.

The other thing is that this would be a sign that your son has an amine

sensitivity. there are many ways of addressing this, from epsom salt baths, to

diet changes, certain enzymes, to methylation support. You could look into the

FAILSAFE diet or low-histamine diet. The more I looked into it, the more I was

convinced that it comes down to an overgrowth of bad bacteria in the gut, so we

instituted the GAPS diet (low histamine version) and it is correcting the

underlying problem, so that we can now eat a lot more histamine foods than

before. My kids have also gone swimming in a chlorinated pool and not reacted

twice now. Here's a link to my blog post about what we did to treat histamine

issues around here:

http://roosclues.blogspot.com/2009/09/histadelia-and-low-histamine-diet.html

-Sierra

>

> Hello All,

>

> Has anyone looked into possible chloramine allergies or reactions that may be

contributing to our kids issues?

>

> Chloramine is used as a disinfectant in many municipal water supplies

throughout the country. Many municipalities still use chlorine.

>

> Chloramine is harder to filter out than chlorine.

>

> We noticed that our son is so much healthier and " with-it " when we travel to

either one of his grandparents homes, in Florida and Washington state. Both of

their municipalities still use chlorine while our home town in North Carolina

uses chloramine.

>

> We are just now trying to figure out how to filter out chloramine from the

water coming into our home. Just wondering if anyone else has looked into this

chemical.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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Sierra,

Thanks for the information.  I had never hear of amine sensitivity.  I will

look into that.  Chloramine is intentionally added to water supplies in some

minicipalities as a replacement to free chlorine for disinfection.  This is

done because the chloramine molecule is very stable and does not dissipate from

the water supply as quickly as free chlorine.  So it is probably cheaper for

the water treatment facility.  Also it is claimed that chloramine produces

fewer harmful chemicals when exposed to organic matter that may be in the water

supply.  I don't know if it is true.

The problem with chloramine is it has not been used as long as chlorine and has

not really been tested on humans.  They say it breaks down quickly in the GI

system in humans but what if some people have defficient GI systems.  Also,

what about the chloramine you absorb through your skin during baths and

showers.  Chloramine is very toxic to fish.  In fact if you use tap water that

has been treated with chloramine in fish tanks without taking out the chloramine

your fish can die quickly. 

I still am trying to learn more about the history of chloramine usage and how it

might be impacting my son.  But there isn't a whole lot of info available.  I

wonder if chloramine usage started to go up around the country the same time

autism started to increase? 

What I have read about filtration is that carbon can remove chloramine but it

takes longer so the water has to be in contact with the carbon for a longer

period of time.

Thanks for the link to your blog and the info about what you are doing.  I will

look into it.

We have just installed a whole house water filter.  We'll see if it helps.

Regards,

From: purpledragonmama05 <sierra.ansley@...>

Subject: Re: Chloramine

Date: Tuesday, January 19, 2010, 9:01 PM

 

Yes, I've looked into chloramine a little because it is an amine, and my

family is sensitive to amines. It's my understanding (though I could be wrong)

that some chlorine in the water supply will turn into chloramine, so it will

always be there. I didn't think of it as different to filter out than reg

chlorine. We installed a whole house filter as well as an additional filter on

the kitchen sink, which seems to help a lot. I know it filters out the

chlorine, like I said I didn't think of the chloramiine is a separate filtering

need.

The other thing is that this would be a sign that your son has an amine

sensitivity. there are many ways of addressing this, from epsom salt baths, to

diet changes, certain enzymes, to methylation support. You could look into the

FAILSAFE diet or low-histamine diet. The more I looked into it, the more I was

convinced that it comes down to an overgrowth of bad bacteria in the gut, so we

instituted the GAPS diet (low histamine version) and it is correcting the

underlying problem, so that we can now eat a lot more histamine foods than

before. My kids have also gone swimming in a chlorinated pool and not reacted

twice now. Here's a link to my blog post about what we did to treat histamine

issues around here:

http://roosclues. blogspot. com/2009/ 09/histadelia- and-low-histamin

e-diet.html

-Sierra

>

> Hello All,

>

> Has anyone looked into possible chloramine allergies or reactions that may be

contributing to our kids issues?

>

> Chloramine is used as a disinfectant in many municipal water supplies

throughout the country. Many municipalities still use chlorine.

>

> Chloramine is harder to filter out than chlorine.

>

> We noticed that our son is so much healthier and " with-it " when we travel to

either one of his grandparents homes, in Florida and Washington state. Both of

their municipalities still use chlorine while our home town in North Carolina

uses chloramine.

>

> We are just now trying to figure out how to filter out chloramine from the

water coming into our home. Just wondering if anyone else has looked into this

chemical.

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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