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Hi

I

don’t if it helps to know this but a listed characteristic of BPES

is having a high arched palate.

I

don’t know how many people have this, nor what effect it has on anything

else. Perhaps a medic would know how to obtain further relevant info.

Regards

Shireen

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Subject: blepharophimosis Re: Rapid Palatal Expander/Orthodontics

>

> Hi,

>

> I was wondering if any of your children w/ BPES have

> ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander placed for

> othodontics? I know it is fairly common in our area

> for kids to have an expander during the early phases

> of orthodontic care to make more room for all of their

> permanent teeth to come in without crowding. Our

> oldest daughter (who does not have BPES) actually has

> one in now. But I am wondering what the effect would

> be on a child w/ BPES who already has different facial

> structure. Anyone dealt with this before?

>

> Thanks!

> April Eisele

> Colorado, USA

> Hi.

My daughter had absolutely no problem with her Palate Expander or

braces when she was 13 years old (they were put on at the same time).

Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a very high palate, but had

no problem fitting her for the device. My daughter never complained

of discomfort from the expander, and it was actually removed 2 weeks

earlier than anticipated (her palate widened quicker and easier than

expected).

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my son has an expander he got this for mainly because he has to wear a head gear at night which latches on to it..... but his upper jaw needed to widen...., he has a severe under bite/ cross bite  (lower teeth go over the bottom teeth) my son is almost 10 and he is the one in our family that has BPES, the ortho doctor said most likely his under bite was caused because of his cranial structure.. possibly from the BPES.... he seems fine and we are seeing improvements, this better work or they will have to break his jaw.  everything has been fine and according to plan his ortho said just like any other patient....On 29-Aug-07, at 2:18 PM, dhaskins214 wrote:>> Hi,> > I was wondering if any of your children w/ BPES have> ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander placed for> othodontics? I know it is fairly common in our area> for kids to have an expander during the early phases> of orthodontic care to make more room for all of their> permanent teeth to come in without crowding. Our> oldest daughter (who does not have BPES) actually has> one in now. But I am wondering what the effect would> be on a child w/ BPES who already has different facial> structure. Anyone dealt with this before?> > Thanks!> April Eisele> Colorado, USA> Hi.My daughter had absolutely no problem with her Palate Expander orbraces when she was 13 years old (they were put on at the same time).Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a very high palate, but hadno problem fitting her for the device. My daughter never complainedof discomfort from the expander, and it was actually removed 2 weeksearlier than anticipated (her palate widened quicker and easier thanexpected).> > _________________________________________________> > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in> > alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto Green> > Center.> > http://autos./green_center/ > > > > > > >__________________________________________________________> oneSearch: Finally, mobile search > that gives answers, not web links. > http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC> Tonikka & Chrischeck out our blogwww.nottynurse.blogspot.com

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Good to know, thanks! Micah has a really high palate

as well. My oldest daughter's face shape changed

drastically with the expander so we were just

wondering if it would have any ill effects for our

son. Amazing your daughter had an expander at 13 - our

orthodontist starts them at age 7! Thanks for your

reply.

April Eisele

Colorado, USA

--- dhaskins214 <dhaskins214@...> wrote:

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I was wondering if any of your children w/ BPES

> have

> > ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander placed

> for

> > othodontics? I know it is fairly common in our

> area

> > for kids to have an expander during the early

> phases

> > of orthodontic care to make more room for all of

> their

> > permanent teeth to come in without crowding. Our

> > oldest daughter (who does not have BPES) actually

> has

> > one in now. But I am wondering what the effect

> would

> > be on a child w/ BPES who already has different

> facial

> > structure. Anyone dealt with this before?

> >

> > Thanks!

> > April Eisele

> > Colorado, USA

> > Hi.

>

> My daughter had absolutely no problem with her

> Palate Expander or

> braces when she was 13 years old (they were put on

> at the same time).

> Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a very high

> palate, but had

> no problem fitting her for the device. My daughter

> never complained

> of discomfort from the expander, and it was actually

> removed 2 weeks

> earlier than anticipated (her palate widened quicker

> and easier than

> expected).

> >

> > _________________________________________________

> > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices in

> > > alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto

> Green

> > > Center.

> > > http://autos./green_center/

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Thanks so much. I feel better knowing others have

done this and it is going/has gone fine. My oldest is

in headgear right now - 14 hrs a day. I feel for you!

;)

April Eisele,

Colorado, USA

--- Tonikka & <lyndenhunter@...> wrote:

> my son has an expander he got this for mainly

> because he has to wear

> a head gear at night which latches on to it..... but

> his upper jaw

> needed to widen...., he has a severe under bite/

> cross bite (lower

> teeth go over the bottom teeth) my son is almost 10

> and he is the one

> in our family that has BPES, the ortho doctor said

> most likely his

> under bite was caused because of his cranial

> structure.. possibly

> from the BPES.... he seems fine and we are seeing

> improvements, this

> better work or they will have to break his jaw.

> everything has been

> fine and according to plan his ortho said just like

> any other

> patient....

> On 29-Aug-07, at 2:18 PM, dhaskins214 wrote:

>

> >

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > I was wondering if any of your children w/ BPES

> have

> > > ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander placed

> for

> > > othodontics? I know it is fairly common in our

> area

> > > for kids to have an expander during the early

> phases

> > > of orthodontic care to make more room for all of

> their

> > > permanent teeth to come in without crowding. Our

> > > oldest daughter (who does not have BPES)

> actually has

> > > one in now. But I am wondering what the effect

> would

> > > be on a child w/ BPES who already has different

> facial

> > > structure. Anyone dealt with this before?

> > >

> > > Thanks!

> > > April Eisele

> > > Colorado, USA

> > > Hi.

> >

> > My daughter had absolutely no problem with her

> Palate Expander or

> > braces when she was 13 years old (they were put on

> at the same time).

> > Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a very

> high palate, but had

> > no problem fitting her for the device. My daughter

> never complained

> > of discomfort from the expander, and it was

> actually removed 2 weeks

> > earlier than anticipated (her palate widened

> quicker and easier than

> > expected).

> > >

> > >

> _________________________________________________

> > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices

> in

> > > > alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto

> Green

> > > > Center.

> > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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> > > that gives answers, not web links.

> > >

>

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> >

> >

> >

>

>

> Tonikka & Chris

> check out our blog

> www.nottynurse.blogspot.com

>

>

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thats sounds about right for lynden, he has his expander 24hrs a day (its bonded to his teeth) and has to wear his headgear  at night between 12- 14 hrs we don't have to expand his anymore right now, he wears it to hold his head gear on.... i will take a picture tonight and put it in his albums ( lyndens photos) .... and boy it was soooo expensive..lolwhy is your daughter wearing one?is she wearing head gear too?On 29-Aug-07, at 7:13 PM, april Eisele wrote:Thanks so much. I feel better knowing others havedone this and it is going/has gone fine. My oldest isin headgear right now - 14 hrs a day. I feel for you!;)April Eisele,Colorado, USA--- Tonikka & <lyndenhuntertelus (DOT) net> wrote:> my son has an expander he got this for mainly> because he has to wear > a head gear at night which latches on to it..... but> his upper jaw > needed to widen...., he has a severe under bite/> cross bite (lower > teeth go over the bottom teeth) my son is almost 10> and he is the one > in our family that has BPES, the ortho doctor said> most likely his > under bite was caused because of his cranial> structure.. possibly > from the BPES.... he seems fine and we are seeing> improvements, this > better work or they will have to break his jaw. > everything has been > fine and according to plan his ortho said just like> any other > patient....> On 29-Aug-07, at 2:18 PM, dhaskins214 wrote:> > > > > >> > > Hi,> > >> > > I was wondering if any of your children w/ BPES> have> > > ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander placed> for> > > othodontics? I know it is fairly common in our> area> > > for kids to have an expander during the early> phases> > > of orthodontic care to make more room for all of> their> > > permanent teeth to come in without crowding. Our> > > oldest daughter (who does not have BPES)> actually has> > > one in now. But I am wondering what the effect> would> > > be on a child w/ BPES who already has different> facial> > > structure. Anyone dealt with this before?> > >> > > Thanks!> > > April Eisele> > > Colorado, USA> > > Hi.> >> > My daughter had absolutely no problem with her> Palate Expander or> > braces when she was 13 years old (they were put on> at the same time).> > Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a very> high palate, but had> > no problem fitting her for the device. My daughter> never complained> > of discomfort from the expander, and it was> actually removed 2 weeks> > earlier than anticipated (her palate widened> quicker and easier than> > expected).> > >> > >> _________________________________________________> > > > Park yourself in front of a world of choices> in> > > > alternative vehicles. Visit the Auto> Green> > > > Center.> > > > http://autos./green_center/> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >>__________________________________________________________> > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search> > > that gives answers, not web links.> > >>http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC> > >> >> >> > > > > Tonikka & Chris> check out our blog> www.nottynurse.blogspot.com> > > > > __________________________________________________________Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC Tonikka & Chrischeck out our blogwww.nottynurse.blogspot.com

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Our daughter has the expander permanently bonded in as

well. We turned it two times twice each day for about

three weeks and then were done with the expanding

part. The expander is just in there now to hold the

space and so we can attach the headgear to it. We

started out 14 hrs a day in headgear and now are doing

12 - 14.

Her upper canines were blocked out by her laterals

thus the expander. The headgear was because she is

maxillary deficient (midface back further than lower

jaw) and because she has a tongue thrust pushing the

upper front teeth out. Now that her upper jaw is

moving forward the upper front teeth are no longer

protruding. She will get braces added to her upper

front four teeth in a few weeks. This phase of

orthodontics is supposed to last about a year and then

she will go into retainers until all of her permanent

teeth are in.

I hear you on the cost! My husband said he knew

having three in college at the same time was going to

be expensive - we didn't think about orthodontics. ;)

--- Tonikka & <lyndenhunter@...> wrote:

> thats sounds about right for lynden, he has his

> expander 24hrs a day

> (its bonded to his teeth) and has to wear his

> headgear at night

> between 12- 14 hrs we don't have to expand his

> anymore right now, he

> wears it to hold his head gear on.... i will take a

> picture tonight

> and put it in his albums ( lyndens photos) .... and

> boy it was soooo

> expensive..lol

>

> why is your daughter wearing one?

> is she wearing head gear too?

> On 29-Aug-07, at 7:13 PM, april Eisele wrote:

>

> > Thanks so much. I feel better knowing others have

> > done this and it is going/has gone fine. My oldest

> is

> > in headgear right now - 14 hrs a day. I feel for

> you!

> > ;)

> >

> > April Eisele,

> > Colorado, USA

> >

> > --- Tonikka & <lyndenhunter@...>

> wrote:

> >

> > > my son has an expander he got this for mainly

> > > because he has to wear

> > > a head gear at night which latches on to it.....

> but

> > > his upper jaw

> > > needed to widen...., he has a severe under bite/

> > > cross bite (lower

> > > teeth go over the bottom teeth) my son is almost

> 10

> > > and he is the one

> > > in our family that has BPES, the ortho doctor

> said

> > > most likely his

> > > under bite was caused because of his cranial

> > > structure.. possibly

> > > from the BPES.... he seems fine and we are

> seeing

> > > improvements, this

> > > better work or they will have to break his jaw.

> > > everything has been

> > > fine and according to plan his ortho said just

> like

> > > any other

> > > patient....

> > > On 29-Aug-07, at 2:18 PM, dhaskins214 wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > I was wondering if any of your children w/

> BPES

> > > have

> > > > > ever had a RPE or Rapid Palatal Expander

> placed

> > > for

> > > > > othodontics? I know it is fairly common in

> our

> > > area

> > > > > for kids to have an expander during the

> early

> > > phases

> > > > > of orthodontic care to make more room for

> all of

> > > their

> > > > > permanent teeth to come in without crowding.

> Our

> > > > > oldest daughter (who does not have BPES)

> > > actually has

> > > > > one in now. But I am wondering what the

> effect

> > > would

> > > > > be on a child w/ BPES who already has

> different

> > > facial

> > > > > structure. Anyone dealt with this before?

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks!

> > > > > April Eisele

> > > > > Colorado, USA

> > > > > Hi.

> > > >

> > > > My daughter had absolutely no problem with her

> > > Palate Expander or

> > > > braces when she was 13 years old (they were

> put on

> > > at the same time).

> > > > Her Orthodontist did remark that she had a

> very

> > > high palate, but had

> > > > no problem fitting her for the device. My

> daughter

> > > never complained

> > > > of discomfort from the expander, and it was

> > > actually removed 2 weeks

> > > > earlier than anticipated (her palate widened

> > > quicker and easier than

> > > > expected).

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > >

> _________________________________________________

> > > > > > Park yourself in front of a world of

> choices

> > > in

> > > > > > alternative vehicles. Visit the

> Auto

> > > Green

> > > > > > Center.

> > > > > > http://autos./green_center/

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

__________________________________________________________

> > > > > oneSearch: Finally, mobile search

> > > > > that gives answers, not web links.

> > > > >

> > >

> >

>

http://mobile./mobileweb/onesearch?refer=1ONXIC

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Tonikka & Chris

> > > check out our blog

> > > www.nottynurse.blogspot.com

> > >

> > >

> > > 

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

>

__________________________________________________________

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> > mail, news, photos & more.

> > http://mobile./go?refer=1GNXIC

> >

> >

>

>

> Tonikka & Chris

> check out our blog

> www.nottynurse.blogspot.com

>

>

> 

>

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