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I would send a note to the Scleroderma Foundation on that one.

Donna

Ottawa, Canada

Scleroderma, Jan.95, AP Oct.97

(My Story)http:// www3.sympatico.ca/mousepotatoes

rheumatic infertility

>From: <rezten@...>

>

>Hi,

>

>Does anyone have any information on male infertility with Scleroderma?

>

>thanks

>

>

>>

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oh i hv that book!! what a co-incidence!!! my s-i-l actually gv it to me abt

1 mth ago! so i hvnt really been thru the whole book!! :-)

K,

>From: Bethanne <bamrand@...>

>Reply-

>Liver Support < >

>Subject: [ ] Infertility

>Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 18:08:31 -0800 (PST)

>

>The name of the book that is great for infertility,

>family planning is called Taking Charge of Your

>Fertility. It is excellent!!

>

>Bethanne

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Have she and her partner been to a reproductive endocrinologist to

rule out any physiological problems? You mentioned unexplained

infertility so I assume this is a dx. But was it from an RE?

I love how she said she's willing to try some weird stuff. Yeah,

Clomid's not weird, huh?

Let me try this drug to see if I can get pregnant (I did and it

worked for me so I'm not knocking it - just saying it's not any less

weird than looking to food for infertility)

*Mainstreamers crack me up.*

Oh, is soy a part of her diet??

a Z

> I am looking for some advice. My SIL is experiencing " unexplained

> infertility " . She is 28 years old and otherwise healthy. She is

> about 20 pounds over ideal body weight and her MD says she needs

to

> lose weight and that should help. She eats what I would call a

very

> typical American diet. She has failed on Clomid/Letrosol, and is

> now looking to do some of the " weird stuff " that me and my family

> do, if it will help her to have a baby.

>

> I told her that I thought she should start on butter oil and CLO.

I

> don't think that she is willing to try raw dairy yet. Are there

any

> other suggestions that I should give her? Any suggestions of how

to

> guide her would be appreciated.

>

> TIA,

> Sherri

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Hi Sherri

A friend of mine is in a similar situation. I have

given her some fish oils to take. She has also made

the decision to go organic in everything, and stop

eating microwave meals. I have also sent her some

Fungal Defense and Primal Defense.

I know that she probably suffers from malnutrition.

She is a yoyo dieter on low fat everything. SHe has

always had bad acne and over the last year it has

turned into acne rosacea (she is 30 years old). I

understand from some comments on here that it is

probably malnutrition that causes this. If a person

isn't getting the nutrition needed to support their

own body, how can it support a second life on top???

I know she has a whole gamut of diet problems, but in

my mind, the major causes are microwave meals making

up 85% of her diet, which she is addressing herself,

and candida and poor digestion which is probably

caused by candida. I am also trying to encourage her

to go to farm shops rather than supermarkets, and have

also planted the seed that wheat is no a great food

for her.

Depending on your SIL's current situation, I wouldn't

try to get her into the " weird " stuff straight away as

that could put her off for good. Instead, try to get

her to eat fresh, whole foods, cut out the junk, and

stop drinking soda. She appears open minded about it,

and that's good, because a diet change won't work

unless it's her own decision.

Once she has got her head around fresh foods, then she

may be ready for stocks, fermentation, sprouting,

kombucha, kefir etc.

Jo

--- oliveview1966 <krollr@...> wrote:

> I am looking for some advice. My SIL is

> experiencing " unexplained

> infertility " . She is 28 years old and otherwise

> healthy. She is

> about 20 pounds over ideal body weight and her MD

> says she needs to

> lose weight and that should help. She eats what I

> would call a very

> typical American diet. She has failed on

> Clomid/Letrosol, and is

> now looking to do some of the " weird stuff " that me

> and my family

> do, if it will help her to have a baby.

>

> I told her that I thought she should start on butter

> oil and CLO. I

> don't think that she is willing to try raw dairy

> yet. Are there any

> other suggestions that I should give her? Any

> suggestions of how to

> guide her would be appreciated.

>

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also, gluten intolerance is highly linked to infertility...

-katja

perhaps we should just call it the gluten kills you group...

At 01:36 PM 9/27/2004, you wrote:

>Hi Sherri

>A friend of mine is in a similar situation. I have

>given her some fish oils to take. She has also made

>the decision to go organic in everything, and stop

>eating microwave meals. I have also sent her some

>Fungal Defense and Primal Defense.

>

>I know that she probably suffers from malnutrition.

>She is a yoyo dieter on low fat everything. SHe has

>always had bad acne and over the last year it has

>turned into acne rosacea (she is 30 years old). I

>understand from some comments on here that it is

>probably malnutrition that causes this. If a person

>isn't getting the nutrition needed to support their

>own body, how can it support a second life on top???

>

>I know she has a whole gamut of diet problems, but in

>my mind, the major causes are microwave meals making

>up 85% of her diet, which she is addressing herself,

>and candida and poor digestion which is probably

>caused by candida. I am also trying to encourage her

>to go to farm shops rather than supermarkets, and have

>also planted the seed that wheat is no a great food

>for her.

>

>Depending on your SIL's current situation, I wouldn't

>try to get her into the " weird " stuff straight away as

>that could put her off for good. Instead, try to get

>her to eat fresh, whole foods, cut out the junk, and

>stop drinking soda. She appears open minded about it,

>and that's good, because a diet change won't work

>unless it's her own decision.

>

>Once she has got her head around fresh foods, then she

>may be ready for stocks, fermentation, sprouting,

>kombucha, kefir etc.

>

>Jo

>

>

>

>

>

>

> --- oliveview1966 <krollr@...> wrote:

> > I am looking for some advice. My SIL is

> > experiencing " unexplained

> > infertility " . She is 28 years old and otherwise

> > healthy. She is

> > about 20 pounds over ideal body weight and her MD

> > says she needs to

> > lose weight and that should help. She eats what I

> > would call a very

> > typical American diet. She has failed on

> > Clomid/Letrosol, and is

> > now looking to do some of the " weird stuff " that me

> > and my family

> > do, if it will help her to have a baby.

> >

> > I told her that I thought she should start on butter

> > oil and CLO. I

> > don't think that she is willing to try raw dairy

> > yet. Are there any

> > other suggestions that I should give her? Any

> > suggestions of how to

> > guide her would be appreciated.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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So how would I tell her to check for gluten intolerence?

also, gluten intolerance is highly linked to infertility...

>

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At 02:25 PM 9/27/2004, you wrote:

>So how would I tell her to check for gluten intolerence?

well, there's a zillion posts about testing for gluten intolerance -

enterolab.com i believe is the current favorite.

however, the tests can be costly and inaccurate (though they're getting a

lot better.) if she's willing to try it, i'd recommend instead that she

just go gluten free for a month, and see if she feels better in general.

that's a pretty good indication, and i'm betting that she will. it might

take a while afterwards for her body to heal up...

-katja

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:

>>I know that she probably suffers from malnutrition.

>>She is a yoyo dieter on low fat everything. SHe has

>>always had bad acne and over the last year it has

>>turned into acne rosacea (she is 30 years old). I

>>understand from some comments on here that it is

>>probably malnutrition that causes this. If a person

>>isn't getting the nutrition needed to support their

>>own body, how can it support a second life on top???

Besides gluten causing acne, I also was reading lately

about polycystic ovary syndrome (I think that's how

you write it: PCOS for short). Anyway, it's really common

nowadays, tends to cause weight gain, T2 diabetes,

acne, and yeah, infertility. Seems to be tied to the high

number of carbs in our diet, throws the hormones off.

Anyway, there is testing for it, and a treatment ...

which mainly involves getting the insulin resistance in line,

so it's a lower-carb higher-protein/fat diet.

And of course this gets into the " what part of the problem

is carbs and which is wheat-carbs " ... but at any rate,

the PCOS researchers have a pretty good handle on how

insulin resistance leads to messed up hormones and acne.

There are also studies that tie high carb diets to acne

in teens. So getting off the two major culprits (white flour

and sugar) would be a good start ...

This all gets complicated because she could well be gluten

intolerant ALSO ... but if she goes on a high-carb low-gluten

low-fat diet that might not help her hormones readily.

Heidi Jean

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--- Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...>

wrote:

> Besides gluten causing acne, I also was reading

> lately

> about polycystic ovary syndrome (I think that's how

> you write it: PCOS for short). Anyway, it's really

> common

> nowadays, tends to cause weight gain, T2 diabetes,

> acne, and yeah, infertility.

Yeah, a low carb diet is a must for anyone with PCOS.

She doesn't have that though. She may however have

endometriosis, which is probably why she came to me,

as I also have it and control it through diet. She

basically thinks my diet is really unhealthy <g> so

the switch for her has to be slowly and has to be of

her own accord. I think the big cause of this for me

and her was being on the Pill for over a decade then

coming off it. However, it either is an immune

disorder, or is caused by an immune disorder (no-one

seems to know) so could very well be linked to wheat

too, as many young teenage girls get it who have never

been on the Pill.

Jo

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Perhaps your issues are not as simple as my family efforts...

After trying to conceive for 5-6 months, my wife used something called "Maybe" (i think) to discover her time of ovulation, and we were successful within 6 weeks.

It uses morning saliva and a small magnifing glass to see "salty?" crystaline patterns which form when the saliva is dried.

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Hello everybody; I was wondering if anybody here has been helped with this problem.Thanks!

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DR Phil Boyle from Ireland who spoke on the  dvd -his specialty is fertility and he feels that ldn has helped a lot of people to get their cycles in order--he is actually studying this right now.cyndiOn Aug 3, 2006, at 3:08 AM, Martens wrote: Perhaps your issues are not as simple as my family efforts... After trying to conceive for 5-6 months, my wife used something called "Maybe" (i think) to discover her time of ovulation, and we were successful within 6 weeks.It uses morning saliva and a small magnifing glass to see "salty?" crystaline patterns which form when the saliva is dried. -This is my new email addresss!!Saberkat7@aol will be retired soon.  [low dose naltrexone] InfertilityHello everybody; I was wondering if anybody here has been helped with this problem.Thanks!

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How old are you? Have you ruled out hormone problems?

Kenda

> I need to know if this is linked to infertility. I had a child 11

> years ago, and it seems as if I can't get pregnant now. I have not

> been having " safe sex " with my fiancee and I am starting to wonder if

> it has to do with my implants?? Any help?? Anyone???

>

>

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For what its worth...

I have never used birth control, and before implants was very fertile and had five healthy children with one ruptured ectopic pregnancy (between babies 3 and 4) This was between the ages of 21 and 31.

After implants at age 33, it seemed I couldn't get pregnant. Still no birth control, and no babies.

Lots of uterine fibroids, mentrual troubles, hormone issues........

At 39, I miscarried, and then six months later I went on to carry a baby who is now two years old. (Just turned two) But, that was six years! Of course I just thought it was my age......

I definately think there is a correlation....look how many of us suffer from thyroid issues....thats kind of all connected. Have you ever had any of your hormone levels checked? Thyroid?

, married to DH MarkMomma to four girly girls~ 16 Kaitlyn 13 Bethany 10 Kylie 2and three awesome boys~Branden 20 Justen 18 and Ethan 2

STOP TELLING GOD HOW BIG YOUR STORM IS.INSTEAD, TELL THE STORM HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS.

Infertility

I need to know if this is linked to infertility. I had a child 11 years ago, and it seems as if I can't get pregnant now. I have not been having "safe sex" with my fiancee and I am starting to wonder if it has to do with my implants?? Any help?? Anyone???

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Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out. I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children. Rogene

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Rogene,

It's a shame that the problems that the mothers and children are experiencing aren't discussed more fully. I, for one, would like to have some general information about how sick these kids are and how the families are coping. It seems that you may have been privy to this information having started the group and gotten many personal communications. Have you ever thought about writing anything so that this information can be more widely looked at?

Patty

Re: Infertility

Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out.

I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children.

Rogene

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I agree with you, BUT, testing is really hard and expensive. AND there is the thought that SALINE hasn't caused the issues that silicone has.

I have a child that was concieved and carried five/six years after implant. She HAS issues I haven't seen before in my children, that correlate with what other Mom's have seen in their kids after implant exposure. It is REALLY hard....as even our PCP who does listen to me, but doesn't really GET what I am telling her. I feel sorry for my child and ALL the others out there struggling.

, married to DH MarkMomma to four girly girls~ 16 Kaitlyn 13 Bethany 10 Kylie 2and three awesome boys~Branden 20 Justen 18 and Ethan 2

STOP TELLING GOD HOW BIG YOUR STORM IS.INSTEAD, TELL THE STORM HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS.

Re: Infertility

Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out.

I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children.

Rogene

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Patty, Much of what I know about the children's issues has been told to me in confidence. You cannot imagine how painful it is for the mothers to acknowledge the connection . . . even to tell the children that their illness is caused by their breast implants. Several adult offspring of implanted women have learned belatedly that their mother had implants. . . Their bodies are dramatically affected. Going public is tough . . .there are job and insurance issues to protect too. There is something underway that will bring this to the public's attention. I strongly feel that, once the public is aware of the implant connection, there will be an incredible flood of women and children coming forward with their experiences. When the time is right, the people who foisted this on the public will be known. . . and, I

believe, that God has His own plans for them. Love, Rogene Tricia Trish <glory2glory1401@...> wrote: Rogene, It's a shame that the problems that the mothers and

children are experiencing aren't discussed more fully. I, for one, would like to have some general information about how sick these kids are and how the families are coping. It seems that you may have been privy to this information having started the group and gotten many personal communications. Have you ever thought about writing anything so that this information can be more widely looked at? Patty Re: Infertility Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out. I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children. Rogene

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, I'm so sorry your daughter is affected! . . . There are a couple things that seem to be making a big difference . . . One is guarding against silicone products - you really don't have to get tested, unless you feel you need proof. . . Just read the labels carefully and avoid products that are silicone related. . . Lana <lanadearest@...>, can help you find alternate products. The other is teaching your daughter to eat an extremely healthy diet. . . I used to think it would be impossible, but from the mothers I've talked to, it seems that the kids quickly learn that they feel better and soon reject junk food. Something that I find peculiar - when it comes to infertility issues. . . We've seen hundred of women come through the group. Many of them are child bearing age .. BUT there don't seem to be very many who have had children

after implants, or get pregnant while participating in the group. . . Does this indicate a fertility problem? I don't know . . but it does seen peculiar. Rogene "jdebolt@..." <jdebolt@...> wrote: I agree with you, BUT, testing is really hard and expensive. AND there is the thought that SALINE hasn't caused the issues that silicone has. I have a child

that was concieved and carried five/six years after implant. She HAS issues I haven't seen before in my children, that correlate with what other Mom's have seen in their kids after implant exposure. It is REALLY hard....as even our PCP who does listen to me, but doesn't really GET what I am telling her. I feel sorry for my child and ALL the others out there struggling. , married to DH MarkMomma to four girly girls~ 16 Kaitlyn 13 Bethany 10 Kylie 2and three awesome boys~Branden 20 Justen 18 and Ethan 2 STOP TELLING GOD HOW BIG YOUR STORM IS.INSTEAD, TELL THE STORM HOW BIG YOUR GOD IS. Re: Infertility Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being

very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out. I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children. Rogene

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hello there

For what it is worth - I had my share of worries of fertility as well when I was married.... I was married in 1999 at 28.... I stopped the pill several month prior as we were going to try immediately for a "honeymoon baby". we tried everything and nothing happened for over a year.... Now - I had also never been pregnant - no close calls either by this age which I thought was odd as most people I knew has at least one child.... I thought I was lucky. I went to a specialist as I didn't want to get much older as our plan was to have several children (I still had my implants in then) and he noted that I had a cyst on my cervix and burned it off in a procedure.... after that still nothing so we were planning on starting the fertility pills at the first of the year but I found out I was pregnant in early November first of that year.... my son was born in 2001. I have had none since nor been pregnant. I have not been on birth control since my son was 1. he is now 5. I am having to use alternate methods these last 4 months though as I have been diagnosed with a seizure issue and have to take epilepsy meds which I can not get pregnant on as they will cause miscarriage/birth defects... not that I will get pregnant but I do not want to take the chance so as long as I have to take this medicine I can not have a baby supposedly... I will be 36 next month so I am running out of time quickly and wondering if I will ever get the chance again myself which is very saddening as I never planned on having only 1 child. There is no history of fertility issues in my family whatsoever.... I have a ton of female cousins all with several kids... my sister has several as does my brother.... My husband has a daughter from his previous marriage so I know it is not him. I wouldn't doubt that some of these fertility issues are related to the implants and some of the health problems they have caused - maybe thyroid, etc.... who knows.

just my 2 cents

shari

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It is hard to say in your individual case, but I would not be surprised in the least...we've had lots of women find this to be true for them after getting implants.

Patty

Infertility

I need to know if this is linked to infertility. I had a child 11 years ago, and it seems as if I can't get pregnant now. I have not been having "safe sex" with my fiancee and I am starting to wonder if it has to do with my implants?? Any help?? Anyone???

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Dear ,

I am so sorry to hear that your child has issues....and I wish there were answers for every one of you. I wish there was something we could do to help.

Are you a member of Rogene's Silicone Kids group?

Have you found ways to cope? Anything that has worked to offset any of the issues you are dealing with?

I guess what I really want to hear about are the treatments, and successes in dealing with the kids issues. I am really wondering what helps the kids. I have a friend here in Vegas who is dealing with her son's issues and she has worked so hard, spent so much money, but is still struggling.

Thanks for sharing.

Patty

Re: Infertility

Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out.

I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children.

Rogene

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There are no treatments for the kids. First, Dr.'s have to believe there is an issue. And of course, we all know that, implants are safe! The FDA tells us so.

Re: Infertility

Get hold of the November issue of Discover Magazine - You'll want to detox before considering getting pregnant.. . . One of our members (who posts only occasionally now) had a very healthy child after being very sick. She worked very hard to detox because she felt her biological clock running out.

I started SiliconeKids last year . . . I knew there were problems, but I had no idea how bad they are . . . or how hard it is for the mothers to deal with the guilt - even though the doctors would have one believe that breast implants don't harm children.

Rogene

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Have heard infertility and early menopause may be a problem for females

with bleph. Would like to hear from anyone with first hand knowledge of

this. THANKS

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Hello,

My daughter is 18 years old, born with bleph, had eyelid surgery before

the age of 3. She has had many issues with her periods including

needing hormone therapy to begin the monthly periods when she was about

16. We are currently working with a gynecologist regarding irregular

periods and the possible connection with bleph. Initially we thought we

were dealing with polycystic ovarian syndrom until I did some research

regarding bleph. I have discussed my concerns regarding bleph and the

possible infertility and POF concerns with this doctor. This doctor had

not heard of bleph and after doing some additional research is doing

blood work ups to track hormone levels at different times during the

monthly cycle. My daughter is concerned about the possibility of not

being able to have children so we are being patiently aggressive in

working with this gynecologist.

I also have a consultation appointment with her primary eye doctor to

discuss any additional corrective eye surgery. When she was younger,

the initial surgeries made her world and our worlds as parents so much

brighter since she could see better and didn't look " sleepy " all the

time (which is what every stranger said when they saw my daughter for

the first time). At times, I worry that I put the bleph issues on the

back burner possibly too long but take consolation in this online

community in addition to believing that surgical techniques and

procedures have advanced since the early ninties. It is comforting to

know that we as a famliy are not alone on this journey. I will keep

you posted on any findings that may be useful.

>

> Have heard infertility and early menopause may be a problem for

females

> with bleph. Would like to hear from anyone with first hand knowledge

of

> this. THANKS

>