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Hi ,

Hope your surgery goes well tomorrow. I had arthroscopy and synoectomy

surgery done in January of 1998. After I came out of surgery and spoke to the

surgeon I said, I wish I could have seen what you did. He said if I would

have brought in a video tape, they would have taped it for me.

I wished I would have known that before hand.

I don't know if every hospital does this. I had my surgery done in Jefferson

University in Phila.

This way you can sleep through the whole thing than watch it later when you

are feeling better.

God be with you tomorrow,

Pat

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Dear :

Good Luck with your biopsy tomorrow. Our prayers are with you for good

results. :>)

Love

Bev

rheumatic surgery

I am having biopsy surgery tomorrow. With 3 previous surgeries, I was told

the intubation for the general anaesthetic had to be done while I was conscious

because of my RA. A bad experience the first time (they hadn't done enough

preparation) left me terrified of the procedure. This time, I have requested a

local, although the doctors have said they think I should have the general. It

looks as though it may be a compromise: a local with general backup if needed.

The anaesthetist at the hospital I'm going to said they have a type of mask

which secures the airway at the back of the throat without going into the lungs.

The results of the biopsy should be in on Monday.

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Glad it went well. Good going on getting Clindamycin IV I wouldn't have

thought of that.

> Ken and wrote:

>

> A special thank you to Ethel, Carol*, Ray, Liz, Pat, , and Bev

> for your support before my surgery. The surgeon said things went well

> and although he wanted to give me a general anaesthetic, he agreed to

> try a local first. Fortunately that was enough. It was a strange

> feeling being awake through it, but I'm just glad that part is over.

> I should get the biopsy results by Monday.

>

>

> P.S. Since I had to have IV antibiotics, I requested and got

> Clindamycin.

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nne,

It's normal to be very fatigued after any type of major surgery. Look at how

much shock this is to every system in the body! You should gradually start

experiencing less fatigue but don't be surprised if you have some for months

after the surgery. I've found it takes about a year to get fully back to

" normal " and the body to recuperate from this major insult. Of course, when

you throw in RA, you add this whole other element to the pot! Take care and

be patient with yourself. Don't push yourself too hard! Acknowledge that

your body needs to heal and that you need to take this time to nurture

yourself. Enjoy your naps! Good luck with your recovery.

Charlotte in CA

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Hi nne,

I read your message and Charlotte's reply. I would have to agree with

Charlotte and her advice. In my limited experience: I had thyroid surgery

approx. 2 years ago for a goiter. I was not being treated for RA yet, but

was symptomatic. It took almost a full year before I was back at " full

speed " . My advice would be not to rush your recovery, nap when you need to,

take care of yourself, get plenty of rest, exercise as much as you are able,

take your vitamins and let your body take care of the rest.

I can remember for the immediate time after the surgery, and the first few

months, I would just " run out of steam " and have to stop! I remember in

particular one day I was out shopping around Christmas time with 2 friends.

We had driven maybe an hour to a large shopping mall (Foley, AL) for those

of you who might have been there. We did some exploring on our way, stopping

at places that looked interesting, and stopped for a nice lunch.

By the time we got to the mall, I was all petered out!! It was a lovely warm

December's day as only you can experience in the South. My friends went into

the mall. I stayed in the car, with the windows cracked and took a nap. I

still remember the sounds of happy shoppers, car doors opening and shutting,

the warmth of the sun and the feel of a lovely breeze and the wonderful

smell of the air. I probably lightly napped for one to one and a half hours.

It's really a lovely memory. It was such a beautiful day and I was really

happy to be out in it! That scenario was repeated a number of times,

although as time progressed rather than falling asleep, I often opted to

remain in the car while my companion might run into a grocery store or

department store because I just didn't feel up to it.

Don't rush it, you'll get you strength and stamina back; you'll know when it

happens.

I belong to a local health club. I only missed a couple of weeks before I

went back. I just took it slow and easy. Stationary bike, pool and hot tub,

then treadmill. I think it helped in my recovery.

Here's to your recovery,

Suzanne

[ ] Surgery

> Hi everyone, I'm new to this list. I was diagnosed with RA approximately

1 1/2 years ago. I am on methotrexate and Vioxx, which I had to go off of

one week prior to surgery, but have restarted. I had a hysterectomy on 6/5.

I seem to have an extreme amount of fatigue. Has anyone had a similar

experience after surgery? Do you think this is due to the RA or is this

much fatigue due to the surgery? I find myself having to nap quite

frequently.

>

> Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

>

> nne

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> Hi nne. Welcome to our group. RA all by itself can cause immense

> fatigue. Add surgery on top of that

> and it can be much worse. It¹s hard to say if it¹s the RA or the surgery, but

> whatever it is, you should not

> try to fight it. You need the rest. Here is a good article on RA and

> fatigue:

>

> http://www.ivillagehealth.com/conditions/musculoskeletal/articles/0,11299,1661

> 40_127860,00.html

>

> Major surgery like a hysterectomy takes time to recuperate from. I think

> even a healthy person would still feel fatigue from this surgery. Enjoy your

> naps!

> a

>

>

>

>

> Hi everyone, I'm new to this list. I was diagnosed with RA approximately 1

> 1/2 years ago. I am on methotrexate and Vioxx, which I had to go off of one

> week prior to surgery, but have restarted. I had a hysterectomy on 6/5. I

> seem to have an extreme amount of fatigue. Has anyone had a similar

> experience after surgery? Do you think this is due to the RA or is this much

> fatigue due to the surgery? I find myself having to nap quite frequently.

>

> Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

>

> nne

>

>

>

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Hi nne,

Welcome to the group. You will find this to be a safe place to have

questions answered, vent and just meet a lot of wonderful, caring people

hosted by our very knowledgeable moderators.

I am sorry that you are having to deal with both the surgery and the RA at

this time. Major surgery such as a hysterectomy on a " healthy normal " person

takes a long tine to recover from, now throw in the RA and it makes it an

almost impossible task on some days. However, one thing did come to mind,

check with your doctor and have him run a CBC. This surgery is notorious for

leaving a patient quite anemic needing to take iron pills. It is not an

immediate fix, but at least you will feel a little more like a " living "

person.

Don't be so hard on yourself right now. Start out taking baby steps and in

time, you will be back to being a " grown-up " . When I had my surgery several

years ago, I could not stay up past 8:00 pm. The first night that I stayed

up until 10:00 pm, I felt like I had made a giant step and told my family

that I was a grown-up again! Same thing in the mornings, I would take my

shower and then go to make my bed as I dried off. Well, I got the shower,

but the bed that was another story. This feeling will not last forever.

Just be patient. I know easier said than done! There are days that I feel

that the fatigue from the RA is worse than any post op surgery fatigue that I

ever experienced and I have had two total knee replacements. Talk to your

doctor though and he may be able to shed some light on the subject for you.

Again, welcome and we hope that you enjoy being here as much as we will enjoy

getting to know you.

Gentle, tender, angel hugs,

Debs in FL

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Hello nne..just wanted to say hello since you've just come onto this list.

Personally, I have lots of fatigue with my RA so I'd find it hard to know which

was which if I was in your position too. I hope you're able to get lots of rest

after your surgery and I look forward to your posts..

A good weekend to you too..

Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 5:55 AM

Subject: [ ] Surgery

>Hi everyone, I'm new to this list. nne

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June,

Tawny, will be my surgery angel and bring back info to the group. This is a

planned 23 hr admit so I should be back on line in a day or two. But just

incase she will keep everyone updated to what is going on. I will be in

Methodist Hospital in Dallas, Texas. I will post the address and phone number

later.

Tomorrow I am going for the last of my pre-op tests as well as vena cava

filter insert in the outpatient vascular lab. I will be back home late tomorrow

evening.

Toni

In a message dated 5/2/04 10:35:08 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

> Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:57:58 -0400

> From: " June Dixon " <juner24@...>

> Subject: Surgery

>

> Hi Toni, May 10 is not too far away.Make sure you send us info as to

> hospital,phone nos. etc. Have you appointed someone to let us know how you are

just

> after your surgery? My thoughts and prayers will be with you as you begin

> this life altering change.

>

> Hugs

> June

>

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Good luck with your surgery. Will be praying for you and yours. :-)

Rick

www.whosyomama.com

Surgery

>

> Hi Toni, May 10 is not too far away.Make sure you send us info as to

> hospital,phone nos. etc. Have you appointed someone to let us know how

you are just

> after your surgery? My thoughts and prayers will be with you as you

begin

> this life altering change.

>

> Hugs

> June

>

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Glad it¹s over Kathy. I hope you heal quickly and the surgery brings you

relief.

You must be doing really well to have worked for so long today. Just don¹t

overdo it.

Hope you have a great weekend.

a

> i survived my surgery. i have a hole in the bottom of my foot about the size

> of a dime. they say it is looking really good for 2 days post op. now comes

> the fun part soaking, cleansing, bandaging for 10 days. i was advised by my

> rheumi and primary not to do my mtx so it would not altar the healing process.

> the

> foot dr didn't think it would do anything, but i'll listen to my rheumi. i

> did go to work today for almost 6 hours. went to the dr for a dressing change

> and stopped at the store for supplies. gonna go put my feet up for a good long

> while. hope everyone has a wonderful, painfree weekend.

>

>

> kathy in il

>

>

>

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Kathy, I have been off line for a couple of weeks. Why did you have

to have surgery on your foot? Ouch, it sounds painful.

I hope that you get some rest this weekend, and your recovery goes

well, my prayers are with you, Tawny

> i survived my surgery. i have a hole in the bottom of my foot about

the size

> of a dime. they say it is looking really good for 2 days post op.

now comes

> the fun part soaking, cleansing, bandaging for 10 days. i was

advised by my

> rheumi and primary not to do my mtx so it would not altar the

healing process. the

> foot dr didn't think it would do anything, but i'll listen to my

rheumi. i

> did go to work today for almost 6 hours. went to the dr for a

dressing change

> and stopped at the store for supplies. gonna go put my feet up for

a good long

> while. hope everyone has a wonderful, painfree weekend.

>

>

> kathy in il

>

>

>

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i'm trying not to overdo it, but it is hard when you live alone. i think

about this open sore in my foot and want to clean my house!!! i have 3 animals

in

here. my friend was trying to talk me into going to work again today to make

up for lost wages (i am sooooo broke!!) but i have decided to stay here and

work. atleast i can break and put my feet up. had to disinfect my bathroom last

night so i could soak my foot and change bandages. the hole is over an inch

deep and about the size of a dime. i was supposed to go to a party tonight, but

will stay home to keep my foot out the elements and germs as i know this lady

has many animals and kids, hopefully i will be able to enjoy my birthday and

thanksgiving but if not. well.....that's happened before too. have a happy

turkey day everyone and let others help!!!

kathy in il

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Nea, I know you are very scared about the gall bladder operation, but

you need to get it done,ASAP! The longer you keep it in, the worse

off you are, infection:(

When I had mine removed, I was not on any RA meds at the time. I

waited way too long, and I had a few complications with infection.

For a few weeks, I had to have a little drainage bottle to wear at my

side, to drain all the infection out. I did have some pain, but felt

a whole lot better without that old thing,:)

I will be checkin' in on you, please, please, get it done, Tawny

>

>

> G'Day everyone, I have to have my Gall Bladder removed.Does anyone

> have any info on weather or not my healing time will be slower do

to

> the RA? Dr told me to stop the metotrexate an Enbrel and 1 week

> after the surgery I can resume,if no infections. Nea

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Nea, If you have your gallbladder removed through a scope

(laproscopic cholecystectomy) then, hopefully, you shouldn't have

too much trouble. The incisions are small (2 are only 5millimeters

and 2 are 10millimeters). It really depends on the condition of

your gallbladder and liver. It sounds like things are not too bad

that your surgeon was able to schedule your surgery. That's good.

It is much harder on the patient when they come in for emergency

surgery and there is already an infection sitting in there. So,

don't put it off!! Hope all goes well for you!......Marina in Ohio

>

>

> G'Day everyone, I have to have my Gall Bladder removed.Does anyone

> have any info on weather or not my healing time will be slower do

to

> the RA? Dr told me to stop the metotrexate an Enbrel and 1 week

> after the surgery I can resume,if no infections. Nea

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Liz, You're going to do great! I'll be thinking of you during the next

day as you near your hour of freedom. I had my surgery in the

afternoon; I went to bed after the recovery room. I slept all night.

I got up the next morning with almost no pain at all. It was more

discomfort, like a bra that doesn't fit well. I had a full breakfast,

and rested in bed. I went to the surgeon's office, and that afternoon

I walked for a little exercise in a mall area. So, my down time was

just maybe the 12 hours after surgery, which included the night's

sleep. I had pain meds only during the 12 hrs. after the surgery.

There were seconds of little sharp pains which did not ache or last. I

did not lift, open doors, try on new clothes at the mall, or put my

hands above my head. I took it slowly, and I think personally, the

best thing I did was drink water, water, and more water...that seems to

flush out the surgery meds, and the toxins that are loose. Are you

travelling during your explant? I did, and have suggestions there if

you are travelling from your home.....take care, J

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Dear Liz

I will be thinking of you tomorrow and said a prayer for a successful

suurgery. I had very little down time. I had the surgery on a

wednesday, went on a trip on thursday, got my drains out on friday

and

went home. It was about a ten hour drive. I was back to work on

monday but then again, it was just for a couple of hours. For me, it

was a piece of cake, and I felt much better much faster than I did

with the implant. Good luck tomorrow!

Hugs

kathy

-- In , " Liz " <elizabethhogg@s...> wrote:

>

> my surgery is tommorrow and i am so excited. i cant wait to see how

i

> will feel. what was anyones down time after the surgery? when

anyone

> else had the implants did it see like you were always getting sick?

i

> have had strep throat, colds and now another throart infection? did

> that happen with anyone else? what kind of detoxing did anyone else

> do? i am lucky to have not been diagnosed with any illnesses yet

but

I

> am excited to get them out so my problems dont get any worse. i

cant

> wait to get my life back.

>

> i will keep you guys posted on my recovery, only 24 more hours.

>

> LIz

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Dearest Liz:

Good luck tomorrow, we will all be here waiting to hear from you. Please

take it easy, this will be your time to heal. Most women do just fine after

being explanted and some return back to work in about six weeks.

love always...Lea

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surgery

>

>

> my surgery is tommorrow and i am so excited. i cant wait to see how i

> will feel. what was anyones down time after the surgery? when anyone

> else had the implants did it see like you were always getting sick? i

> have had strep throat, colds and now another throart infection? did

> that happen with anyone else? what kind of detoxing did anyone else

> do? i am lucky to have not been diagnosed with any illnesses yet but I

> am excited to get them out so my problems dont get any worse. i cant

> wait to get my life back.

>

> i will keep you guys posted on my recovery, only 24 more hours.

>

> LIz

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

> licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

> health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

> a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

> two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Hi Sandy! I have my explant on June 17th. I was told my Dr. Melmed

he could only take out 80% of my capsule due to the fact he said my

implants were to high. He did not want to risk going into the chest

cavity. I naturally was bummed being I flew a lot of miles and spent a

great deal of money. I try to accept it but I do feel cheated a

little. I do think I will call his office and ask them to fax me my

pre and post-op notes, also the path report, since I just got a two

hundred dollar bill. I can't say I am feeling a hundred percent, but I

am doing the best I can. I did paint my sons bedroom, and a 14 foot

hallway today. I pooped right now and ready to go to bed. I still have

muscle twitches, which he said would probably go away. whats your

experiences? Did you not have all you capsule removed? Write me. Stay

well! Kim...... sorry about my misspellings.

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Christene,

The insurance companies know very well what the

problems are! . . . Friends have told me their

implant-related medical bills have been in the high

six figures - with multiple surgeries!

An acquaintance, who reviewed applications for health

insurance with BC/BS told the that there were two

conditions that generated an automatic rejection . .

.. Morbid obesity and a history of breast implants. -

That was years ago! . . . Go figure!

Still the FDA thinks they are safe - and medical

doctors act like they don't know a thing!

Hugs,

Rogene

--- usmcprincess3002 <usmcprincess3002@...>

wrote:

>

> Well, I scheduled my appointment with the surgeon

> today. I go in to see

> her on 26Apr06 @1100 <mailto:26Apr06@1100> .

>

> I was a bit ticked at how far away it is because to

> me it does nothing

> but lengthen my time here in Georgia! Nonetheless,

> the secretary asked

> if I had a mammogram yet? I said no I can't have

> one. She put me on

> hold and came back and said, " Umm, Did you want the

> implants taken

> out? "

>

> " Yes, they are making me very sick... "

>

> " Okay, well your insurance will pay to have them

> removed, but not to

> have them put back in. "

>

> Obviously she thought I was going to swap them out

> or something.

>

> Hmmm....think about that one ladies.....it seems to

> me that maybe the

> insurance company might know how sick they make you

> and maybe that's

> part of the reason they will do one procedure and

> not the other? I'm

> thinking it's not the surgery our insurance

> companies don't want to pay

> for. Instead, they don't want to pay for the follow

> up visits....

>

> Christene

>

>

>

>

>

>

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That's scary! It can only mean one thing...somebody in the FDA has been bought and paid for. Imagine that huh? The FDA/government...corrupted! Please don't misconstrue that..... I love my country and I have served with pride. But you will never see me being bought out. You couldn't pay me enough to keep quiet. I value life more than money and not just mine either... Christene Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote: Christene,The insurance

companies know very well what theproblems are! . . . Friends have told me theirimplant-related medical bills have been in the highsix figures - with multiple surgeries!An acquaintance, who reviewed applications for healthinsurance with BC/BS told the that there were twoconditions that generated an automatic rejection . .. Morbid obesity and a history of breast implants. -That was years ago! . . . Go figure!Still the FDA thinks they are safe - and medicaldoctors act like they don't know a thing!Hugs,Rogene--- usmcprincess3002 <usmcprincess3002@...>wrote:> > Well, I scheduled my appointment with the surgeon> today. I go in to see> her on 26Apr06 @1100 <mailto:26Apr06@1100> .> > I was a bit ticked at how far away it is because to> me it does nothing> but lengthen my time here in Georgia!

Nonetheless,> the secretary asked> if I had a mammogram yet? I said no I can't have> one. She put me on> hold and came back and said, "Umm, Did you want the> implants taken> out?"> > "Yes, they are making me very sick..."> > "Okay, well your insurance will pay to have them> removed, but not to> have them put back in."> > Obviously she thought I was going to swap them out> or something.> > Hmmm....think about that one ladies.....it seems to> me that maybe the> insurance company might know how sick they make you> and maybe that's> part of the reason they will do one procedure and> not the other? I'm> thinking it's not the surgery our insurance> companies don't want to pay> for. Instead, they don't want to pay for the follow> up visits....> > Christene>

> > > > >

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,

Make sure you get it in writing that the surgeon is taking

everything out, including the capsule. How about drains, has he

agreed to use drains? It seems that this attitude the doctors have

is universal, not just isolated to the United States and Canada!!

Sis

>

> Hi there Christene,

>

> I went to see a surgeon yesterday and he has agreed to explant.

He didn't

> want to take all out but I have insisted. He said it is a big

operation and

> tried to put me off by saying I wouldn't look very nice afterwards

but I

> stuck to my guns. He also didn't think that the implants are

causing my

> arthritis and has asked me to see a specialist to get him to

confirm that it

> is the implants. Of course, I know the specialist won't do this

and I asked

> him why he wanted me to see one before explant. I felt like he

was trying

> to back out of it but he has scheduled me for 24th April. He

wants me to go

> and see him on 12th April " to prepare me " whatever that means and

I have to

> see the bone specialist on 20th March.

> I also had an MRI scan yesterday, I hated it but kept dozing off

thankfully

> They told me I could not have anything to eat or drink before

coming and I

> didn't get into have my scan until 11am. By that time, my throat

was so dry

> I couldn't swallow and this made me panic. They said they were

going to

> give me a relaxant and that is why I could not have any drink or

food but

> they never gave me anything. It took one and a half hours.

> I get my results of the scan on Wednesday.

> I am happy to be having the operation but I am depressed by the

care and

> feel they just think I am a crazy woman who reads too much!!! I

don't know

> yet if the insurance will cover it and the Doctor said it is

something I

> have to sort out myself!!. I have thought about going to the UK

to have it

> done but I cannot leave my children so I am stuck with the

ignorant Spanish

> here.

> It looks like we will be recovering together as your op is two

days after

> mine. That gives me some strength.

> After the MRI I was burning in my arms until midnight and my face

was bright

> red!! I went to bed with ice packs strapped to my arms but at

least it

> helped me get some sleep.

>

>

>

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Why were your arms burning? That's not normal for an MRI? Did they give you an injection of dye? Christene Lambert <manditenerife1@...> wrote: Hi there Christene, I went to see

a surgeon yesterday and he has agreed to explant. He didn't want to take all out but I have insisted. He said it is a big operation and tried to put me off by saying I wouldn't look very nice afterwards but I stuck to my guns. He also didn't think that the implants are causing my arthritis and has asked me to see a specialist to get him to confirm that it is the implants. Of course, I know the specialist won't do this and I asked him why he wanted me to see one before explant. I felt like he was trying to back out of it but he has scheduled me for 24th April. He wants me to go and see him on 12th April "to prepare me" whatever that means and I have to see the bone specialist on 20th March. I also had an MRI scan yesterday, I hated it but kept dozing off thankfully. They told me I could not have anything to eat or drink before coming and I didn't get into have my scan until 11am. By that time, my throat was so dry I

couldn't swallow and this made me panic. They said they were going to give me a relaxant and that is why I could not have any drink or food but they never gave me anything. It took one and a half hours. I get my results of the scan on Wednesday. I am happy to be having the operation but I am depressed by the care and feel they just think I am a crazy woman who reads too much!!! I don't know yet if the insurance will cover it and the Doctor said it is something I have to sort out myself!!. I have thought about going to the UK to have it done but I cannot leave my children so I am stuck with the ignorant Spanish here. It looks like we will be recovering together as your op is two days after mine. That gives me some strength. After the MRI I was burning in my arms until midnight and my face was bright red!! I went to bed with ice packs strapped to my arms but at least it helped me get some

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