headaches

[Guest guest]

--- Hi, donna & everyone! My neck is on the left side. When I had a

vehicle accident in 1986, I hit the windshield and it moved my atlas

out of place, about 1'4 of an inch. A friend took me to a

chiropractor in Washington State, where he used an awesome method to

knock it back in place. Before then, I had headaches for 1 year.

Then I had 3 more less severe accidents - boogie boarding in Maui -

spraining my neck, cross-country skiing - slight fall & crunch, then

I was rear-ended in another accident - slight whiplash. The doctor

said I wouldn't live past the 2nd injury! Y'never know!! lol

I do believe whole-heartedly that my silicone poisoning is affecting

it greatly also. I am in constant pain and discomfort, tight

muscles, and extreme stiffness. No matter what I do, massage, heat,

ice, etc. it still bugs me everyday. I am very excited about

explanting and healing.

I take Calcium/Magnesium and Dong Quai - it helps somewhat. It's

like fighting an uphill battle when you are doing healthy things and

the poison source is still there, right?

Thanks so much for responding to me...I really need support right now.

Bless you muchly,

Sunny

In , BSBanshee1@... wrote:

>

> Sunny,

>

> Sounds so weird that that is the same place my infected implant was

infecting

> me. In between the same vertebra's we are twins. Get them out and

that will

> go away I bet you. I can already feel the pressure leaving my neck

and head

> area. It is amazing, yet a bit scary. I know mine is all on my

right side,

> what about you. I think the toxins and poisons go up the spine and

infected is

> what they seen. I am going to wait a little while and have a mri

done to see

> if it is gone. My guess is that it will be once the infection

leaves my

> body. I had no idea implants could do so much, but now after

realizing its like

> common sense to me anymore. I bet this neck issue will go away

when the

> infection leaves my body. I am curious to see the out come. Sunny

it is the same

> thing I had Infected implants, just think I had a dr tell me Donna

why do you

> want mri if it is a pinched nerve there is nothing we can do this

happens

> sometimes when u get surgery. It is a big circle of friends and

money sunny get

> them out your neck will heal mine is already 3 days post. Is yours

right side

> or left sunny?

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

--- Another herb I've seen work on migrains is Feverfew. Some people

have had great success with it.

Love & Blessings,

Sunny

In , GMCLADY98@... wrote:

>

> No no one in family has headaches and mine just started after

implants and

> seem to be gettig worse..I have vicodin I may try but I hate taking

meds. I'm

> on my period so maybe that's why I feel so much worse.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi April,

Welcome to !

I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

Do you have implants too? . . .

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Rogene,

Do you know Shirley Goodner?

Lynda

At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

>Hi April,

>

>Welcome to !

>

>I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

>

>Do you have implants too? . . .

>

>Hugs,

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

I had all the muscle aches. My whole right side was like paralysed. No matter what I did It was actually hard to move my facial muscle what so ever. I already feel some relief from this since explant. It also felt like my right arm was going to break in half at times. My neck was in pain and the whole muscle thing I know for a fact had to do with my implants. I didn't have them long and so healthy before BA it's hard to blame on anything else. I already feel relief and it's getting better, I am not 100% by no means. I have faith in God that I will be healed now that my body has a chance to fight. Face it these implants are more powerful than we are, once removed we have a chance. I have to believe this or I will not be able to go on from day to day. Sunny hang in there it won't be much longer til explant Honey.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

Don't look back Honey!!! You will feel better I do that is for sure.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynda,

I've heard her name before, but I've never met her. Is

she in Arkansas?

Rogene

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> Rogene,

> Do you know Shirley Goodner?

>

> Lynda

>

> At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> >Hi April,

> >

> >Welcome to !

> >

> >I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

> >

> >Do you have implants too? . . .

> >

> >Hugs,

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> of advice given

> >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> physician or

> >licensed health care professional before commencing

> any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> politicians

> >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make

> your own

> >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to

> work for a

> >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> Prize Winner (1954,

> >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access

> at this link:

>

><http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.co\

m/action/

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, Mena, Arkansas, I came there and helped her do a conference.

Lynda

At 05:26 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

>Hi Lynda,

>

>I've heard her name before, but I've never met her. Is

>she in Arkansas?

>

>Rogene

>

>

>

>--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> > Rogene,

> > Do you know Shirley Goodner?

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> > At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> > >Hi April,

> > >

> > >Welcome to !

> > >

> > >I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

> > >

> > >Do you have implants too? . . .

> > >

> > >Hugs,

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place

> > of advice given

> > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult your

> > physician or

> > >licensed health care professional before commencing

> > any medical treatment.

> > >

> > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the

> > politicians

> > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make

> > your own

> > >decisions about how to live a happy life and how to

> > work for a

> > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> > Prize Winner (1954,

> > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > >

> > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access

> > at this link:

> >

> ><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.

> shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

-- Donna, that's so horrible...I am astounded at the suffering we go

through with these poison bags. I regreted by surgery soon after I

had it. I always prided myself in being natural and up front kind of

person - then all of a sudden I was not natural and had these big

boobs up front! Ha! Ha! There I go...laughing at myself again.

Thanks for the support. You're a sweetie!

Love, peace & healing,

Sunny

In , BSBanshee1@... wrote:

>

> Sunny,

>

> I had all the muscle aches. My whole right side was like

paralysed. No

> matter what I did It was actually hard to move my facial muscle

what so ever. I

> already feel some relief from this since explant. It also felt

like my right

> arm was going to break in half at times. My neck was in pain and

the whole

> muscle thing I know for a fact had to do with my implants. I

didn't have them

> long and so healthy before BA it's hard to blame on anything else.

I already

> feel relief and it's getting better, I am not 100% by no means. I

have faith in

> God that I will be healed now that my body has a chance to fight.

Face it

> these implants are more powerful than we are, once removed we have

a chance. I

> have to believe this or I will not be able to go on from day to

day. Sunny

> hang in there it won't be much longer til explant Honey.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Is Shirley Goodner still active? - Rogene

--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> Yes, Mena, Arkansas, I came there and helped her do

> a conference.

>

> Lynda

>

>

> At 05:26 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> >Hi Lynda,

> >

> >I've heard her name before, but I've never met her.

> Is

> >she in Arkansas?

> >

> >Rogene

> >

> >

> >

> >--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> >

> > > Rogene,

> > > Do you know Shirley Goodner?

> > >

> > > Lynda

> > >

> > > At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> > > >Hi April,

> > > >

> > > >Welcome to !

> > > >

> > > >I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

> > > >

> > > >Do you have implants too? . . .

> > > >

> > > >Hugs,

> > > >

> > > >Rogene

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> place

> > > of advice given

> > > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult

> your

> > > physician or

> > > >licensed health care professional before

> commencing

> > > any medical treatment.

> > > >

> > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

> the

> > > politicians

> > > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and

> make

> > > your own

> > > >decisions about how to live a happy life and

> how to

> > > work for a

> > > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> > > Prize Winner (1954,

> > > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > >

> > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> access

> > > at this link:

> > >

> >

>

><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.

>

> >

>

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> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I don't think so, but I did hear from her a year or so ago.

Lynda

At 10:49 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

>Is Shirley Goodner still active? - Rogene

>

>

>--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

>

> > Yes, Mena, Arkansas, I came there and helped her do

> > a conference.

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> >

> > At 05:26 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> > >Hi Lynda,

> > >

> > >I've heard her name before, but I've never met her.

> > Is

> > >she in Arkansas?

> > >

> > >Rogene

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >--- Lynda <coss@...> wrote:

> > >

> > > > Rogene,

> > > > Do you know Shirley Goodner?

> > > >

> > > > Lynda

> > > >

> > > > At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> > > > >Hi April,

> > > > >

> > > > >Welcome to !

> > > > >

> > > > >I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

> > > > >

> > > > >Do you have implants too? . . .

> > > > >

> > > > >Hugs,

> > > > >

> > > > >Rogene

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the

> > place

> > > > of advice given

> > > > >by licensed health care professionals. Consult

> > your

> > > > physician or

> > > > >licensed health care professional before

> > commencing

> > > > any medical treatment.

> > > > >

> > > > > " Do not let either the medical authorities or

> > the

> > > > politicians

> > > > >mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and

> > make

> > > > your own

> > > > >decisions about how to live a happy life and

> > how to

> > > > work for a

> > > > >better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel

> > > > Prize Winner (1954,

> > > > >Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> > > > >

> > > > >See our photos website! Enter " implants " for

> > access

> > > > at this link:

> > > >

> > >

> >

> ><<<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://

> .shutterfly.com/action/>http://.

> >

> > >

> >

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> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

What happened to her ?

[Guest guest]

Wow that awful so even with explant she didn't get better ? Were hers saline ? That really sad.

[Guest guest]

Yes, Lori also faxed me tons of stuff. What a loss it was when she died.

Shirley was a group leader, we held the conference in Hot

Springs. That was back maybe in 1995?????????????

I am unsure how she found me, but I volunteered to help her put on a

conference, and it turned out very well.

Shirley is still around. Probably working hard to make a living. She

is one hard working woman.

Lynda

At 08:36 AM 5/29/2006, you wrote:

> I have tons of Shirley's Goodner's support group letters. Lori was a good

>friend of Shirley and she used to call her Gipsy. When we lost Lori, we lost

>one of the bravest ladies that I had ever met. She was not afraid to go

>where most people would never go. When Laminack came to Edmonton to

>work with some of the lawyers here, she was first in line and she grabbed my

>hand because she wanted me to go with his firm. Now, I think that I should

>have listened to her, but that is all in the past. She won; however, it did

>not stop her pain and suffering. The manufacturers gagged her, but no one

>could gag Lori, she continued to cause trouble for them. We miss her faxes,

>she would stay up most nights and fax information to everyone. There were

>times when would get annoyed with her because she would fax most

>anything. He now misses her faxes.

>

> We all need a miracle to stop this madness...love to all......Me

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`

> Re: Re: HEADACHES

>

>

> > Rogene,

> > Do you know Shirley Goodner?

> >

> > Lynda

> >

> > At 01:13 PM 5/28/2006, you wrote:

> >>Hi April,

> >>

> >>Welcome to !

> >>

> >>I'm in Arkansas too . . . Near Hot Springs.

> >>

> >>Do you have implants too? . . .

> >>

> >>Hugs,

> >>

> >>Rogene

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

> >>by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

> >>licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

>treatment.

> >>

> >> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> >>mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

> >>decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

> >>better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

> >>Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >>

> >>See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

>

>

>><<http://.shutterfly.com/action/>http://.shutterfly.\

com/action/>http://.shutterfly.com/action/

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

These damn daughter in laws, she should be worried that you are even going to be ok. Grrr

I just can't stand this for you. I am glad that you decided to roll out and take care of yourself. I know we put everyone before us, I am the same way. Well for now they are all seeing how hard it is to be me. I don't mind that. LOL I am sick of being sick and them being babies myself. I just give up and so should you. Take care of yourself and enjoy Lea!!

Sounds like fun.

Donna

[Guest guest]

--- Donna, I WILL keep on keeping on! Keeping my stress level down is

imperative right now. Last night my son & wife and I had a family

meeting. It didn't go as well as I hoped. My daughter-in-law reacted

to some of my concerns and got angry. Told me to take my week holiday

NOW!! So instead of this Friday, I am starting my week vacation today.

Everything will turn out I'm sure, we all just need a breather. I'm

involved with their children more than the average grandma, as I do

respite for Emma and babysit the other 3 quite frequently. We have

differences with discipline methods, and when I make a suggestion, it

isn't taken very well by her. My son is receptive, but she is quite

stuck in her ways. Oh, well....don't meddle, Grandma!! It's tough

when I'm around them alot. I'm going to enjoy a week with my 87 yr.

old mother and try to meet Lea and have a visit.

Thanks again for your warm & loving support,

Sunny

In , BSBanshee1@... wrote:

>

> Sunny,

>

> Don't look back Honey!!! You will feel better I do that is for sure.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

I never had daily headaches until I got implants - although I wasn't

nauseated from the headaches like is. However, a while back I

was having back pain and that made me nauseus (that wasn't implanted

related). It could be that the headaches is having are

implant related, but the nausea is related to the headache itself.

Sis

> > >

> > > I have headaches so bad I feel as though I'm going to throw

> > up...does anyone

> > > else have this ? And my neck gets real stiff and arms

hurt...do you

> > think

> > > the infection is going to my brain ? I'm scared.

> > >

> >

> Hello there, I'm a new member just recently and noticed your

message

> regarding your bad headaches.First I'm so sorry to hear and hope

they

> get better.I'm not sure exactly what your entire story is regarding

> " implants " but the way you described how you feel when you have a

> headache if you honestly feel like throwing up,have you considered

that

> it might be a migraine headache non-related? I'm not a doctor but

I have

> suffered severely from being diagnosed with migraine & clusted

headaches

> and they are horribly painful.One of the worst symptoms many times

is

> vomiting and aura's.Thank goodness I do not have these though,I

have

> been seeing a Neurologist for over 7 years and I have tried almost

> everything and I'm even on preventive meds and vitamin type OTC's

to

> help.Possibly anyone in your family suffer with migraine

headaches? In

> research, migraine suffer's travel hereditary in famailies just

> wondering...I hope you get to feeling better,God

Bless.Sincerely,April

> in Arkansas.

>

[Guest guest]

Sunny,

A vacation may be just what you need to build up your

energy for your surgery! . . .

Please take time to enjoy your mother and the

springtime! . . .

I know it gets very stressful for the entire family

when dealing with special needs children. . . Your

grandkids are so very fortunate to have your attention

and your love!

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

---Thanks, Rogene. I wish I had more than 1 week to vacation, and

with my Mom, well, even though she's 87 she can out-walk and out-talk

me! It won't be much of a rest, but a really nice change! She's a

sweetie and is proud to show off her garden to me. I'll be meeting

with Lea for tea, also, as my Mom lives in Edmonton, that's where I

grew up.

God bless you for your caring support,

Sunny

In , Rogene S <saxony01@...> wrote:

>

> Sunny,

>

> A vacation may be just what you need to build up your

> energy for your surgery! . . .

>

> Please take time to enjoy your mother and the

> springtime! . . .

>

> I know it gets very stressful for the entire family

> when dealing with special needs children. . . Your

> grandkids are so very fortunate to have your attention

> and your love!

>

> Hugs and prayers,

>

> Rogene

>

[Guest guest]

Lea,

I have to ask, what is at your house?? I may need to visit there to someday when I get a bit better. It sounds very nice and I hope Sunny comes to visit and you all have a great time. You deserve it honey!!! Thanks for the support so much.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Lea,

It sounds so nice and I always look at it like this. If a house looks lived in than it's home. I hope you and Sunny have a wonderful time.

Hugs,

Donna

[Guest guest]

- about the Humira and lymphoma connection -- my rheumy says

that they are not sure whether the link is very strong at all. She

says that, unfortunately, people with psoriasis are already at

higher risk than the rest of the population for lymphoma anyway,

although they don't know why. So the increased risk for lymphoma on

the meds is very, very slight and maybe not even statistically

significant.

I know this will sound a little fatalistic and a little pessimistic,

but for me I think I would rather live a shorter span with better

quality of life than to live longer and hurt and be immobile the way

I was. I'm willing to take ANY reasonable risk to have something

close to my old life back! And so far, the meds are doing just that

for me.

good luck with your decision - I know it's hard,

sherry z

[Editor's Note: Thanks, Sherry. I agree that from what I've read, the risk is

extremely slight and I, for one, have opted to continue staying on the

medications that I believe have given me a quality of life that would have been

utterly impossible without them. I would not take a strong medication merely to

avoid shaving my legs but I absolutely feel it is worthwhile in order to be able

to continue to feed and dress myself, walk by myself to the bathroom, shower

without assistance, etc. I do not believe I would be doing some of those things

had I not finally decided that the risk of the medications was far less than the

risk of the life I was headed for. Kathy F.]

>

> I also read one of the e-mails yesterday that scared me a little.

It was about Remicade and Humira putting you at risk for certain

kind of cancers.

[Guest guest]

" about the Humira and lymphoma connection -- my rheumy says

that they are not sure whether the link is very strong at all. She

says that, unfortunately, people with psoriasis are already at

higher risk than the rest of the population for lymphoma anyway,

although they don't know why. So the increased risk for lymphoma on

the meds is very, very slight and maybe not even statistically

significant..........for me I think I would rather live a shorter span

with betterquality of life than to live longer and hurt and be

immobile the way I was. I'm willing to take ANY reasonable risk to

have somethingclose to my old life back! And so far, the meds are

doing just that for me. "

WONDERFUL post! I so agree. This is exactly what my rheumatologist has

said to me and exactly how I feel.

Wanda

[Guest guest]

>

> Does anyone find headaches as a part of their side effects from any

of their

> meds?

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[Guest guest]

I get a headache from the Methotrexate, and boy can it be a doozy.

Lori

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