Hey

[Guest guest]

Jenn...although biopsies ar a valuable diagnostic tool it is also an

important way to see how much damage has been done. This is a

progressive disease that will lead too cirrhosis if not checked.

Cirrhosis itself is progressive and the LFTS that we talk about are not

actually function tests at all, but rather monitor activity. It is not

only possible to have normal numbers and still have cirrhosis it is also

probabitlty (not to mention certainty) that those with serious cirrhosis

have normal LFTs.

Make sure you keep monitoring yourself.

love jerry

[Guest guest]

-

I took it and got all of them right, too. Maybe we should get together

sometime and go out.

joe

> Hey all,

> Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

them correctly.

[Guest guest]

Joe

hey sounds good to me!

susan

Re: Hey

-

I took it and got all of them right, too. Maybe we should get together

sometime and go out.

joe

> Hey all,

> Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

them correctly.

[Guest guest]

,

Boating! Are you crazy?!! Are you insane?!! lol. I know how you felt. I

get stir crazy, too. LOL! I wanted like crazy to do some flower gardening.

I called my physical therapist, & she said if I want to have lots of back

spasms & go back to the brace, by all means, bend over & start gardening.

Guess I'll have to break down & hire a gardener. Gee, maybe I can have him

plant some of those funny plants y'all have been talking 'bout. By all

means, vent. That's better than what I did yesterday evening when I yelled

at my husband!

Okay, I just looked at the test, & the last one stumped me. I just got a

jury summons. Can you imagine sitting in a courthouse chair for hours on

end?

sonia

[Guest guest]

Sounds like you need a vacation, how about you come to Ohio, spend time with me

and go see my docs? Actually that sentence was going to say you come here and

I'll go to FL, but I'd much rather have some fun company and try to help you

out! Bring the Pepsi and the pot LMAO JK HAHA Gimme a call and we'll talk, am

serious tho, you need meds and a doc and I'd be happy to call and see if they

take that insurance, I know your hands are VERY full down there but you need

" YOU " time to get better, focus on yourself. Think about it for a while, and

don't think I'm joking. We don't have a lot of room but Kaylee's bed in the

living room (as I said we have a 1 bed apt and her bed wont fit in the bedroom

with mine) is bunk beds, bottom bunk is a full size futon and I can sleep on

that and you're welcome to take my bedroom over for the duration.. think about

it and we'll talk later Sorry you're in so much pain tonight!

Connie

Hey

> Hey all,

> Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

them correctly.

> Doesn't surprise me as my '$*# & @ & ( GP doctor cut me back on the dosage of

pain meds.

> My mission looking for a new Neuro is done...can't believe it. Within a 100

mile radius only 2 take my insurance which is a common one..United Health Care.

So all I have left is seeing this Dr of Osteopath Neuro Surgery(a D.O.) or going

back to my Orthopedic doctor. Have to do something as i am cut off of ALL pain

meds as of the 18th from my GP. Depressing! Okay where do I sign up for the

Medical Jo?

> Then I did a stupid thing this weekend(yeah...Connie knows...LOL)...but I had

fun doing it. I went out boating. Was just so tired of sitting at home and not

being able to do what I like.it was suppose to be calm waters and ended up like

the ride from hell as an off shore wind kicked up and and the water was

choppy,2-3 ft swells without other boat traffic. Now today ive noticed Ive been

having upper back pain and lower lumbar spasms. I didn't notice it at first as i

was in more pain with I swear was 3rd degree sunburn(still suffering from that

too).

> Sorry to vent on ya'll...my family just doesn't understand the pain that goes

on with all this.They just think I should be able to do all the daily functions

that a mother should do,like dishes,cooking,laundry,mopping,vaccuming and taking

care of seven dogs! Know ya'll know that most of this is painful.

> Well time to go and get the girls to bed.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, I took the test and was shocked I got one wrong, the phone distracted me

LOL Only reason is b/c I got one recently like it so knew to take my time and

think... which I do NOT do very often hahaha It was fun tho, thanks!

Connie

> > Hey all,

> > Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

> them correctly.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ahh I've been wanting to plant flowers too, just don't have the extra few bucks

to do it. I got lucky when I moved to this apt, its ground floor, I walk from

the sidewalk right to my front door... anyhow, there's a box on the outside that

I put a long flowerbox on, then have 2 little round ones on each side. I plant

those b/c they are right at the perfect level. The swan planter and the one my

neighbor gave us (big square one) that sit on either side of the front porch

step Kaylee does the planting. No zucchini or cucumbers as our side of the bldg

has clay for dirt, unfortunately... but I have a friend of the family that

gives me plenty zucchini thankfully each year and I bake loads of bread for her

and everyone else, among other things. Ask the kids in the neighborhood to do

your planting, kids Kaylee's age (10) I know would have a ball doing it, and

with a little supervision and help could do a great job... that and a popsicle

LOL Try it I know Kaylee would do it in a

heartbeat and would have fun doing it, and do a good job, kids love the dirt!

As for the jury duty, easy, doctors note... lol

Connie

RE: Hey

> ,

> Boating! Are you crazy?!! Are you insane?!! lol. I know how you felt. I

> get stir crazy, too. LOL! I wanted like crazy to do some flower gardening.

> I called my physical therapist, & she said if I want to have lots of back

> spasms & go back to the brace, by all means, bend over & start gardening.

> Guess I'll have to break down & hire a gardener. Gee, maybe I can have him

> plant some of those funny plants y'all have been talking 'bout. By all

> means, vent. That's better than what I did yesterday evening when I yelled

> at my husband!

>

> Okay, I just looked at the test, & the last one stumped me. I just got a

> jury summons. Can you imagine sitting in a courthouse chair for hours on

> end?

> sonia

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[Guest guest]

Connie,

Kids gardening in my neighborhood... That usually happens through age 6

around here. My kids used to garden with me all the way through age 10.

Not anymore! They are swamped with homework, baseball, swimming, music

(concert time of year), musicals (again that time of year), & when they have

free time -- they want to play or gab with their friends! LOL. As for my

neighbors' kids, they all sniff at gardening b/c nearly everyone has a

gardener. Will they do it for money? NO! They all get big allowances.

(They already know I give out free cookies when they stop by.) There's one

little girl that might be interested, but knowing her mom, she wouldn't want

her little girl to get dirty with -- dirt! LOL. We are one of 3 households

in my neighborhood that actually like to garden ourselves, probably one of 3

dozen in all of town. Even our garden centers say that most of their

customers are professional landscapers or gardeners. I haven't planted

zuchinni since the night when as a newlywed I served my hubby zuchinni

bread, zuchinni frittata, zuchinni soup, zuchinni smoothie (it was pretty

good!), no, we didn't have a zuchinni cake, & my husband ate it all & asked

me never to make anything with zuchinni again. :-)

sonia

[Guest guest]

You going to be home later(not busy?)

Hey

> Hey all,

> Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

them correctly.

> Doesn't surprise me as my '$*# & @ & ( GP doctor cut me back on the dosage of

pain meds.

> My mission looking for a new Neuro is done...can't believe it. Within a 100

mile radius only 2 take my insurance which is a common one..United Health Care.

So all I have left is seeing this Dr of Osteopath Neuro Surgery(a D.O.) or going

back to my Orthopedic doctor. Have to do something as i am cut off of ALL pain

meds as of the 18th from my GP. Depressing! Okay where do I sign up for the

Medical Jo?

> Then I did a stupid thing this weekend(yeah...Connie knows...LOL)...but I

had fun doing it. I went out boating. Was just so tired of sitting at home and

not being able to do what I like.it was suppose to be calm waters and ended up

like the ride from hell as an off shore wind kicked up and and the water was

choppy,2-3 ft swells without other boat traffic. Now today ive noticed Ive been

having upper back pain and lower lumbar spasms. I didn't notice it at first as i

was in more pain with I swear was 3rd degree sunburn(still suffering from that

too).

> Sorry to vent on ya'll...my family just doesn't understand the pain that

goes on with all this.They just think I should be able to do all the daily

functions that a mother should do,like dishes,cooking,laundry,mopping,vaccuming

and taking care of seven dogs! Know ya'll know that most of this is painful.

> Well time to go and get the girls to bed.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry am here, just not feelin great today so not online checking emails... if

you're still up give me a holler, if not tomorrow if that's better for ya

Connie

Hey

>

> > Hey all,

> > Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all of

them correctly.

> > Doesn't surprise me as my '$*# & @ & ( GP doctor cut me back on the dosage of

pain meds.

> > My mission looking for a new Neuro is done...can't believe it. Within a

100 mile radius only 2 take my insurance which is a common one..United Health

Care. So all I have left is seeing this Dr of Osteopath Neuro Surgery(a D.O.) or

going back to my Orthopedic doctor. Have to do something as i am cut off of ALL

pain meds as of the 18th from my GP. Depressing! Okay where do I sign up for the

Medical Jo?

> > Then I did a stupid thing this weekend(yeah...Connie knows...LOL)...but I

had fun doing it. I went out boating. Was just so tired of sitting at home and

not being able to do what I like.it was suppose to be calm waters and ended up

like the ride from hell as an off shore wind kicked up and and the water was

choppy,2-3 ft swells without other boat traffic. Now today ive noticed Ive been

having upper back pain and lower lumbar spasms. I didn't notice it at first as i

was in more pain with I swear was 3rd degree sunburn(still suffering from that

too).

> > Sorry to vent on ya'll...my family just doesn't understand the pain that

goes on with all this.They just think I should be able to do all the daily

functions that a mother should do,like dishes,cooking,laundry,mopping,vaccuming

and taking care of seven dogs! Know ya'll know that most of this is painful.

> > Well time to go and get the girls to bed.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Actually I fell asleep early last nite...also didn't have a good day. maybe I

will try you later.

Hey

>

> > Hey all,

> > Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered all

of them correctly.

> > Doesn't surprise me as my '$*# & @ & ( GP doctor cut me back on the dosage

of pain meds.

> > My mission looking for a new Neuro is done...can't believe it. Within a

100 mile radius only 2 take my insurance which is a common one..United Health

Care. So all I have left is seeing this Dr of Osteopath Neuro Surgery(a D.O.) or

going back to my Orthopedic doctor. Have to do something as i am cut off of ALL

pain meds as of the 18th from my GP. Depressing! Okay where do I sign up for the

Medical Jo?

> > Then I did a stupid thing this weekend(yeah...Connie knows...LOL)...but

I had fun doing it. I went out boating. Was just so tired of sitting at home and

not being able to do what I like.it was suppose to be calm waters and ended up

like the ride from hell as an off shore wind kicked up and and the water was

choppy,2-3 ft swells without other boat traffic. Now today ive noticed Ive been

having upper back pain and lower lumbar spasms. I didn't notice it at first as i

was in more pain with I swear was 3rd degree sunburn(still suffering from that

too).

> > Sorry to vent on ya'll...my family just doesn't understand the pain that

goes on with all this.They just think I should be able to do all the daily

functions that a mother should do,like dishes,cooking,laundry,mopping,vaccuming

and taking care of seven dogs! Know ya'll know that most of this is painful.

> > Well time to go and get the girls to bed.

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry you didn't have a good day, I didn't really either, was in bed for the

majority of it... today I know will be the same b/c I woke up a lot of times

last night and am in so much pain... I change my patch in a bit here and that

one is the 75 so lets hope I get a little more relief than with this 50.. I did

before when I was on it so lets hope it helps this time too. Anyhow... I don't

see me going anywhere today/tonight so whenever you feel up to it I'll be here,

if I don't get the phone right away call back as I may not be able to get to it

right away. Thanks

Connie

Hey

> >

> > > Hey all,

> > > Nobody wanted to take the test,ay? Oh well i flunked it....answered

all of them correctly.

> > > Doesn't surprise me as my '$*# & @ & ( GP doctor cut me back on the

dosage of pain meds.

> > > My mission looking for a new Neuro is done...can't believe it. Within

a 100 mile radius only 2 take my insurance which is a common one..United Health

Care. So all I have left is seeing this Dr of Osteopath Neuro Surgery(a D.O.) or

going back to my Orthopedic doctor. Have to do something as i am cut off of ALL

pain meds as of the 18th from my GP. Depressing! Okay where do I sign up for the

Medical Jo?

> > > Then I did a stupid thing this weekend(yeah...Connie

knows...LOL)...but I had fun doing it. I went out boating. Was just so tired of

sitting at home and not being able to do what I like.it was suppose to be calm

waters and ended up like the ride from hell as an off shore wind kicked up and

and the water was choppy,2-3 ft swells without other boat traffic. Now today ive

noticed Ive been having upper back pain and lower lumbar spasms. I didn't notice

it at first as i was in more pain with I swear was 3rd degree sunburn(still

suffering from that too).

> > > Sorry to vent on ya'll...my family just doesn't understand the pain

that goes on with all this.They just think I should be able to do all the daily

functions that a mother should do,like dishes,cooking,laundry,mopping,vaccuming

and taking care of seven dogs! Know ya'll know that most of this is painful.

> > > Well time to go and get the girls to bed.

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Hey girlfriend Check out Datealittle.com and or Littlepeopledepot.com those are

both nice websites for LP's Check them out!!!

Candy <mickey6933@...> wrote:

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[Guest guest]

Hello Barbara, I'm going to do my 3rd shot tomorrow, today I will have more bloodwork done. Wow, I'm surprised that they follow it so closely. I heard they did but...I had no idea. I hope everything goes as well as the past two shots.

Rhonda, drink your water!

Bob, I'm sorry to hear about your dad.

Diane, I'm sorry I'm no help about the calcium deposits. Keep asking questions. This is a great group here, please come back.

BTW my doc said he doesn't don't even bother testing monogomous partners of Hep C patients. It's so uncommon to transmit it.

LynnHey Lynn!My sides are changing from week to week. Last week I had a migraine. I usually have body aches and a fever everyday. Not a bad fever, only a degree or two up from normal. Just enough to make me feel a little achy. I take a couple of Tylenol and I feel better. Water really does make a difference. I'm tired, but that's ok. Also, my hip aches alot. I feel very fortunate. I"m getting ready to take my 5th shot, so we'll see what happens tomorrow!! Nothing I hope since I have a doctors appointment. I'm glad to hear you are doing well. Keep a positive attitude and the time will fly by in no time!Barbara

[Guest guest]

,

Where are you located? What docs are you seeing? Perhaps someone on

here will know of a doc who can help you.

What methods have you tried? Many methods don't work for a lot of

people. For example, transdermal methods don't work for me at all.

If you have tried injections, what dosage and frequency have you

tried? I was orignally put on 200mg once a month and it did not help

at all. But that is the " standard " dose, so that is what I was put on

by docs that didn't know much about hypoG. I am now at 200mg every 10

days and have seen some improvement. Even then, I still have

relapses. For example, I have basically felt like I've had the flu

since last thurs. Some of that may be due to the fact that I have

issues besides hypoG (which may be your case as well).

What symptoms are you experiencing besides ED? In my case I have been

diagnosed with CFS, probably due largely to a dysfunctioning

hypothalamus. They speculate that the hypoG is a result of whatever

this CFS process is.

Mark

[Guest guest]

Hi Scot, or

I am new to the 'hypo' site, but not new to sites of this type. Your

message has concerned me as I have spent many

years 'trusting' 'Proffesionals' until I decided that I know what is

best for MY body. Could you please explain to me your situation in

the hope that I or others will be able to help you.

martin

Tc 1994

Testicular Atrophy 2002

>

> i just want to say im giving up on trying to find help for my hypo

> and ed. nothing i tried works. the doctors cant seem to help and

want

> to send me to more expensive doctors up north. my insurance dosent

> accept many things i have claimed. just dont know what to do any

> more. only option seems a implant and just forget trt all together

> because my body dosent seem to respond to it.

> thanks for the help through the months,

> steven( or scott)

> wish you all the best!

[Guest guest]

Are you sure you were receiving injections with proper timing and

dosage? I got no response when this was done incorrectly (i assumed

they knew what they were doing and that it wasn't an answer to my

problems), but I have when the frequency and overall amount was increased.

Mark

> ill try.im 31,i have ed and hypo from unknown causes.my uro thinks i

have avenous leak in penis. i have tried all forms of testosterone

therapy, while pellets raised the numbers some,none of the treatments

made me feel better. i tried every form of ed aid and none helped.

thats it basically.

>

[Guest guest]

I have all those too. I'm also diagnosed with CFS. Not sure how much

is due to either or both, but I have gotten some relief with proper T

therapy. It needs to be fairly aggresive to get results though, at

least for me. Right now I am on 200mg every 10 days. I will be

getting more before and after blood tests in the next few weeks.

Depending on those results, I might try and talk my doc into 150mg

every 7 days.

Mark

> i have tried everything except fetility drugs.i have been to fancy

doctors.it seems i just cant be helped. i have the normal symptoms and

some " odd " ones. low,energy,bad memory, brain fog...etc

>

[Guest guest]

I think Bruce is right here. I don't know much about Dr. , but

his treatment protocol makes a lot of sense to me. In fact, I

presented it to my GP/CFS doc and I'm hoping he will like it too. He

doesn't know much about hormones but seems to be willing to learn.

I don't think his prices are supposed to be too bad, and he does

everything remotely unless you live in Michigan, I think. Check him

out at http://allthingsmale.com/. Worth a shot. From what others

have said he is very reponsive. I've thought about making the trip to

MI to see him myself if things don't work out here (I'm in IL).

Mark

> addressed? Are you sure there isn't a reasonably priced, competent

doc near

> you? If not, I think you still have options.

>

> Best regards,

> Bruce

[Guest guest]

I don't think Dr. is in Mi. I think he will not work with you if you live

in Mi. but will with your Dr. Mi has laws that make it hard for him to work

here. But if some one knows for sure that he is in Mi. I would like to know.

Phil

mdw1000 <mdw1000@...> wrote:

I think Bruce is right here. I don't know much about Dr. , but

his treatment protocol makes a lot of sense to me. In fact, I

presented it to my GP/CFS doc and I'm hoping he will like it too. He

doesn't know much about hormones but seems to be willing to learn.

I don't think his prices are supposed to be too bad, and he does

everything remotely unless you live in Michigan, I think. Check him

out at http://allthingsmale.com/. Worth a shot. From what others

have said he is very reponsive. I've thought about making the trip to

MI to see him myself if things don't work out here (I'm in IL).

Mark

> addressed? Are you sure there isn't a reasonably priced, competent

doc near

> you? If not, I think you still have options.

>

> Best regards,

> Bruce

[Guest guest]

Phil,

I was going by the contact info on his website.

It also says on his website " If you need a physical exam, because you

cannot provide me with a copy of a current physical, we can get that

taken care of by your own local doctor. Michigan residents must be

personally seen by me. I can order your labs from here, or your own

local doctor can have them done (if they are willing). "

Not sure if that is up to date or not.

Mark

> I don't think Dr. is in Mi. I think he will not work with you

if you live in Mi. but will with your Dr. Mi has laws that make it

hard for him to work here. But if some one knows for sure that he is

in Mi. I would like to know.

> Phil

>

[Guest guest]

Norton,

It went very well. No problems at all. I ice for 30 minutes before and can't

feel the needle until it gets all the way in.

Thanks,

In a message dated 11/16/2004 5:15:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,

nort828@... writes:

, a couple of weeks ago you were going to shoot depoT in you

leg I believe for the first time. Curious as to how it went, and

how you are feeling now?

best

norton

[Guest guest]

Helen,

Allie is on meds, with swollen joints. But everyone else was tested and

we are negative. Could be someone at school, who knows. But for now we

are doing ok. The hardest part has been her pain. My kid never

complains of pain, and she has had a tough couple of weeks. I am hoping

this round of drugs will knock this out of her system, and we will be on

the mend. We visit the eye doctor tomorrow morning. She has never had

eye problems, and hopefully this will be the same. Thanks for thinking

of us!

I hope you have a better week!

and Allie (8 poly)

________________________________

From: hburger64 [mailto:hburger64@...]

Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2005 5:40 PM

Subject: Hey

Hows Allie doing with the strep and did you find out anything more..

did you all have to be tested to see if someones a carrier???

thinking of you guys..

Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

________________________________

[Guest guest]

- I sure hope those meds kick in soon for Allie! It's been a rough

couple of weeks for you guys! Hang in there!

Alia and Caroline, age 3, poly and uveitis

Hey

Hows Allie doing with the strep and did you find out anything more..

did you all have to be tested to see if someones a carrier???

thinking of you guys..

Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Alia,

I guess it is good because she is back at school. She was really bummed

this morning because she had to go to the eye DR., and they are going

sliding for gym. Really I think it will be mud...after this weather,

but you can't convince a 8 year old of that. Her ankles were bothering

her, as well as her wrist. I just hate this crap, and I hate when she

hurts. Yesterday she came home from school and just cried. For no

apparent reason just cried ...20 minutes. I asked her if she hurt, and

the answer was an emphatic " no. " She seemed better last night...then

she told me her ankles hurt. I will be glad when old man winter

disappears, and we can get hopefully go back to normal? Scary word

isn't it?

Anyway, you guys take care! I have read lots of posts, and it sounds

like Caroline is feeling better! YEA!

and Allie (8poly)

________________________________

From: Pranke, Alia [mailto:Alia.Pranke@...]

Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 8:28 AM

' '

Subject: RE: Hey

- I sure hope those meds kick in soon for Allie! It's been a

rough

couple of weeks for you guys! Hang in there!

Alia and Caroline, age 3, poly and uveitis

Hey

Hows Allie doing with the strep and did you find out anything more..

did you all have to be tested to see if someones a carrier???

thinking of you guys..

Hugs Helen and (7,systemic)

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