Re: Confusion

[Guest guest]

Lee,

Yes, that's what we call UW-Madison. To complicate things further, we also

have the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Most people distinguish between

the two campuses by calling UW-Madison " UW, " " Wisconsin " or " Madison " and

UW-Milwaukee as " UWM " or " UW-Milwaukee. "

(proud student of UW-Milwaukee)

Surgery date: 12/22/04

Activation date: 1/18/05

[Guest guest]

and Jake,

I have become confused many times dealing with therapists, councilors,

schools and others. You are not alone with this situation. For us some

other issues stood in the way of progress...depression and anxiety stemming

from her Generalized Anxiety Disorder that was separate from the OCD

anxiety. We had to deal with these other issues first before we could make

progress with the OCD O's and C's. Other parents on the list have had

similar situations to contend with. In reading your post it sounded to me

as there may be an underlying issue in the way. You know your son better

then any professional could, trust your gut. Just because there are

standard procedures and treatment does not mean it will necessarily work for

each person. Some of these procedures may need to be altered or adjusted to

fit your son's personality. Do not get discouraged in what was said to you,

use it as a tid bit of information to customize a plan to help you find ways

to help your son. IMO, I would never make my home look unattractive to my

mentally ill child, these kids need a safety zone and home is that zone. I

have been guilty of misinterpreting what was meant by some remarks made by

therapists. One of my issues of some of these therapists, they are quick to

pass judgment but have no personal experience of being a mom or dad to these

kids We had one therapist tell us that increased anxiety was normal and

expressions the child was making should be ignored. My gut....I am paying

this person to help our child with anxiety, not to increase it, how can a

mom ignore their child running around looking for a knife and yelling " I

need a knife to cut my head off so I can make it stop! " . Ok, my gut won,

therapist was fired and I refused to allow this behavior in our home. IMO

you have to do what you feel is best and give what weight you feel is

appropriate to the remarks of someone who has limited knowledge of the

family. Remember these people are treating a portion of a person (the

mental illness) they tend to forget that there is a healthy part of this

person's brain that is part of the process of overcoming the issues. I hope

you and Jake can find a way to get past the issue and get Jake motivated, we

wish you well.

Amy

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From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of nnbellot

Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 4:37 AM

Subject: confusion

Hello everyone,

Having a struggle need to get it out and hopefully get some helpfull

feadback.

I am at a loss as to what advice to take, i have always gone with my

gut feeling and 80% of the time its been the right one.On friday we

attended family therapy to look at how things were going with Jakes

therapy and to see what changes would be helpfull seeing as he is

expieriencing more difficulty in coping.

I was told that i needed to take a stronger hand with Jake, not take

notice of the ocd and more or less to get a life.

Then a conversation with the teaches assistant at the child and

adolescent centre really had me ??????????????

I was again told that most of his refusal to attend the centre was

bad behavior and to make home look very unattractive to make him move.

Ok my view as mum is at the front line....I see the terror in his

eyes when the time comes to move in what ever direction he is

supposed to. To me thats not bad behaviour or good acting,Its ocd

tormenting him.

What can you do when they refuse to move? If ocd saysdont go to

school you will see or hear something that will cause you to get

sick, go blind,stop hearing, smelling or feeling and if you do it

will happen to everyone you care about because you contaminated them.

Or hearing a news piece that talks of disaster and murder and sexual

contents.

I try to help hm rationalize, i reassure,I remind him of his past

strengths andtell him the strength is still there, move and you will

see and as a result it will get easier.

I just feel a lack of understanding is evident. Its not easy for

these kids and they need us to be strong right along side them.

Am i in a comfortable place with my son ? Do i need to harden up?Or

should i go with my gut feeling?

Thanks for listening and Jake

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[Guest guest]

and Jake,

Perhaps the point was not to actually make home less

appealing, but to stress that the centre is where he

needs to be and not to be avoiding anxiety provoking

situatins?

My whole family is rampant with ocd+ and the way we

cope best is to always confront what is causes the

anxiety and therefor the obsession or compulsion.

If I use your example of refusing to go to the centre

due to the obsessive thoughts, then the compromise

would be that he goes to the parking lot (when there

is no appointment may be his first step), after he has

habituated to that level of anxiety, then try going

when there is an appointment, then maybe the front

lobby, and keep moving forward from there with small

steps. Breaking down an overwhelming situation into

small practical steps can help overcome refusal.

No one knows our kids better than us, but the

professionals attempting to understand the difference

between comprehending a fear (and living with it) and

just behaving stubbornly may be a fine line. The

treatment providers appear to percieve that Jake WON'T

and you see Jake as CAN't. Breaking things down to

successful steps is highly beneficial to confronting

obsessions and complusions. Jake needs to see that

going to the appointments will not cause you to die/a

world disaster/the neighbours pet to go

blind/whatever... Making paradoxical comments and

using humour can also help take the edge off.

Don't waste your time on reassurances, instead

concentrate on Jakes successes and pointing out how he

achieved those goals. The " Worry Hill " analogy is

perfect (thank you Aureen Wagner for it!) - you

struggle on the way up (confronting), habituate at the

top and then its an easier glide down once Jake

realizes that he has the ability to confront OCD.

Hope this helps,

, in Canada

parent and social worker treatment provider

--- nnbellot <annabellot@...> wrote:

---------------------------------

I am at a loss as to what advice to take, i have

always gone with my gut feeling and 80% of the time

its been the right one. ... I was told that i needed

to take a stronger hand with Jake, not take notice of

the ocd and more or less to get a life. Then a

conversation with the teaches assistant at the child

and adolescent centre really had me ??????????????

I was again told that most of his refusal to attend

the centre was bad behavior and to make home look very

unattractive to make him move. ...

I try to help hm rationalize, i reassure,I remind him

of his past strengths andtell him the strength is

still there, move and you will see and as a result it

will get easier. I just feel a lack of

understanding is evident.

Thanks for listening and Jake

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[Guest guest]

HI Beth -

I am sorry that they are making this harder than it has to be...have you

tried getting them to provide you with a personal aide for social cue-ing?

My son had his own aide from preschool up to 2nd grade and now that same

aide is considered a 'classroom aide' because while he still needs her, he

does not need her to the extent that he used to and she helps other kids in

the class...is this an option down there? Ann

>From: " beth_wagner_98 " <beth_wagner_98@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: ( ) Confusion

>Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:37:54 -0000

>

>I had a previous post about questions on private schools in

>Washington D.C. I am sorry, I thought I was posting that message to

>my local Aspergers Group. I probably confused everyone with all those

>acronyms.

>

>But, I do have a question/quandry about what I should do with my 6

>year old AS son, . I have fought bitterly with my school system

>about placing him in our local Aspergers school program, but they

>have said that " he is not behaviorally bad enough to enter that

>program " and that he has to " fail " in his current setting before they

>move him to a more " restrictive " program - thanks to the " No Child

>Left Behind " Act.

>

>I have presented the school system with 3 expert opinions, Children's

>Hospital Autism team, a phsychologist and a Dr. that has conducted

>social skills classes for him. It all boils down to who has the

>burden of proof - the parents and experts who say he needs more

>intensive intervention or the school system that states that

>they " just don't see the problems at school that you and your experts

>see " . It's a very scarey if you as a parent believe your child needs

>more services or goals in their IEP and the school system is

>unwilling to add them. We have even gone as far as mediation between

>the school system and us and they won't budge because " their data

>shows he's succeeding academically " at school, even though he is

>coded Asperger's and has major deficits in his social and pragmatic

>skills. My Asperger's experts all concur that he needs to be in a

>program that addresses his lack of social skills and pragmatic

>language. He is VERY social but can't carry out a true reciprocal

>conversation. He just talks to you about his interests and right now

>that's human anatomy.

>

>We've even talked to Special Ed lawyers and they say that we wouldn't

>win against our school system because as it stands the

>schools " experts " outweigh any expert I could bring to an IEP meeting.

>

>FYI: The burden of proof issue is going to be taken up by the Supreme

>Court this summer(Schaffer vs. Weast - the superintendent of

>Montgomery County Public Schools). Of course, that's the county I

>live in and it will obviously be delayed due to the resignation of

>Justice O'Connor. Last week, President Bush announced that he sides

>with the school system in this matter. Under the IDEA Act, it never

>states who has the burden of proof when it comes to adding services

>or goals for a child (if there is a disagreement between the school

>system and the parents).

>

>I am wondering if I should send him to public school he currently

>attends that does have IEP goals - but doesn't address his Asperger's

>needs (and now views me as a " problem " parent " )or go to a private

>school (which would stretch us financially) that could give him more

>attention but wouldn't be an Asperger's school program. I wish their

>was a manual to follow when you get the diagnosis. I feel like I am

>stumbling through everything and hoping not to make a mistake I'll

>regret in the future.

>

>And to top it off, we are in the process of getting his twin brother,

> diagnosed with autism this summer. I know he's on the spectrum

>but his also developmentally delayed. My boys were extremely

>premature (28 weekers , weighing 2 lbs 8 oz and 1 lb

>14oz). I was given 4 courses of steroid shots while I was pregnant

>to improve their lung development which I've read from some studies

>has been linked to autism.

>

>Sorry this is so long, I guess I am so frustrated and don't know what

>to do to get the services we need for (and as early as

>possible) so that he will have the best chance for success in the

>future). The school system understands developmental delays and

> is in a GREAT program, but with Aspergers, as I've found from

>the school and my friends and family, they just don't get it because

>he is so smart with memorization and facts that deal with his

>perserveration, but they overlook the fact that he can't carry a

>conversation and just seems cute and quirky. It won't be so cute

>when he's doing this at 15 years of age.

>

>I realize that my boys will never be " NT " but I am so upset that the

>school system won't intervene now which will help him instead of

>waiting for him to fall apart and " fail " before they'll give him the

>services he needs.

>

>Thanks for letting me vent.

>Beth

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/7/2005 10:40:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,

beth_wagner_98@... writes:

But, I do have a question/quandry about what I should do with my 6

year old AS son, . I have fought bitterly with my school system

about placing him in our local Aspergers school program, but they

have said that " he is not behaviorally bad enough to enter that

program " and that he has to " fail " in his current setting before they

move him to a more " restrictive " program - thanks to the " No Child

Left Behind " Act.

Have you requested the criteria in writing for getting into the AS program?

They should have criteria written down and I would request it. Find out

what the actual criteria is for this program in writing and not just what they

are telling you. It is likely that they don't have a " rule " that it is just

for behavior problems - unless it is a program specifically for behavior

problems.

Also, request their refusal for change of placement in writing.

Also, consider if they really do only send behavior issues to this program,

it may not be a good place for your ds?

I'm not sure why sped lawyers would tell you that so perhaps you should shop

around for a lawyer. You sound like you need one to go with you to the IEP

in order to get an appropriate IEP that fits the needs of the child. If the

child has needs and he has a dx of AS to go with those needs and the school

refuses to address those needs on the IEP - I'm not sure this is a hard thing

to prove at all, no matter which side Bush comes down on in who has to prove

what. One thing to remember is to get prior written notice on all refusals

for service. In addition, if you disagree with the schools evaluation, you

should request an independent evaluation at school expense and get another

opinion. All of that should have happened first before having someone file due

process. Without the documentation and leg work, you wouldn't have a lot to

prove the need. Also, remember to take specific data yourself and with any

outside therapies.

Roxanna ô¿ô

Don't take life too seriously; No one gets out alive.

[Guest guest]

Hey, Beth,

I am sooo sorry you are going through all this, and feeling so

frustrated!

The only thing I can say is really get to understand AS, and what

needs we Aspies need as children.

My main focus for my boys is this:

1. Speech Therapy (for the pragmatics-- like a speech club) to help

with the social skills

2. O.T. for all those fine motor, and other issues they have.

3. ME (I homeschool and really work with them!)

As far as Private schools go,,, they don't have to follow any IEP like

PS, and they don't have to do much, but if they are willing GREAT!

Maybe the PS will work with you to get services you need.

I did approach our school with a great attitude, and I was well versed

on what we needed (but in my case, it was tough to get help!)

You can always say " let's start over,,, what can you do to help my

child(ren) "

Help any?!?!?!

*smiles*

B

> I had a previous post about questions on private schools in

> Washington D.C. I am sorry, I thought I was posting that message to

> my local Aspergers Group. I probably confused everyone with all

those

> acronyms.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Greg it is all about balance you need some E2 and E's the sams as you need T's.

Low E2 will kill your sex life the same as high E2. To much or not enough is

not a good thing.

Phil

Greg Kevorkian <grekkevork@...> wrote:

I am somewhat confused about the folowing. I understand how high E2

can screw up your bodies ability to use T. I DON " T understand how LOW

E2 can mess that up. I know it wipes out libido but it seems to me

that having a high T, the lower the E2 the less SHBG there would be

and the more FREE T there will be. That would be good. So I don't get

it.

Greg

[Guest guest]

Have you ever considered acupuncture? What can be done with a good

acupuncturist is amazing.

I am not saying that is what you need, it is just a suggestion. I had good

to great results for everything that was treated by the one I went to. I do

have to add that an acupuncturist in the state I am in is required by law to

have a physician's license, so the one I went to was just short of or may

have been brilliant. She really knew her stuff and she used consideration as

well as good sense. I went to her during the time I had lung surgery. One

morning she had a mask on when I went in. I was puzzled and asked about it.

She told me she wanted to be sure I didn't get what she had as she knew that

I was so susceptible to respiritory problems. I was so pleasantly surprised

that she was so considerate though I was almost positive that she only had

allergies as it was that time of year. I had already been on antibiotics for

infections since the surgery and had some bad reactions so her protective

attitude toward me was so nice. I don't think anyone else cared that much.

She had pix of the meridans on the walls of all of the treatment rooms and

she wasn't afraid to pick up the PDR and look up stuff in my presence. I was

always sure she knew what she was doing. Once I went in with a case of

eating undercooked chicken--bad stocmach. Though that wasn't on the agenda

for the day, she put in a needle in my upper stomach and part of the pain

went away immediately. I could live OK with what was left of it.

There may be some other things that you could look into for getting yourself

back in shape for surgery but I don't know of any others. I am so sorry

things aren't going your way. I have been at what I thought was the

pinnacle in 02 and am almost back as far in the pits as I once was at the

present time. I know that the disease ebbs and flows with some of us though

it's called flares and remission. I hope that you will soon be back on the

road to living your life to the fullest. I know it's quite a drop to the

bottom after you have seen the top again. Just hold on and I am sure that we

will once again be where we want to be.

It is very interesting that you had such good results with the interstim. I

remember when you were having it implanted. Does the battery go so fast in

most of them? I would have thought it would have lasted at least 10 years

before dying. I know that pacemakers usually last that long or longer. Tell

them they ought to figger a way to recharge those things so you can keep

going/Messing around with surgery every few years is a drain in so many

ways. At least if you have the implant replaced and your mobility returns,

there may be another type of device that ought to be investigated by the

company.

Regarding your asking them about the company about attributing the no

symptoms to the Interstim, I wonder if you could write them back and ask if

you could write the doctors involved with the study. You know there has to

be someone who has knowledge about what spinal nerve(s) are involved with

the level where this device is implanted. They are just covering their *sses

on that one. I think they have an obligation to their patients (customers)

to look into some of the questions you have about the results you have

gotten and what has happened since the device quit on you.

I hope this tirade is a help and a positive thing to you.What I intended by

writing it is that you know that you have support from me. I hope that you

are well enough to soon have the interstim replaced. I also know how it is

to feel that you need one thing done but are too tired to have the surgery.

Quie a dilemma. It could be that you would feel so much better that if you

had the surgery you would be better anyway. If it took away the symptoms you

are thinking it did before( one question I have there is how long after the

surgery did it take for the remission of the symptoms that you noticed?)

One other thing I thought of is that to get yourself built up for surgery, a

wellness expert named Adelle (sp?) wrote some books named something

like Let's Eat Right to Keep Fit and others I can't think of the name of. I

don't know if they are still in print but they might be in your library. I

used one of them to prepare for surgery and it was the best surgery and

recovery I ever had. I didn't ever have time to build up like I did for that

one, so I don't know if the results are consistent, but since her advice is

based on good eating and supplementation I don't see where it could hurt.

I'll be looking on the list to see how things are going for you.

lovenhugs

GA

Confusion

> I've written a few times about the recent back pain that I have been

> experiencing. It suddenly with horrible back spasms. Now it is more of

> an ache that becomes worse as the day goes on. Although initially, when I

> was having the back spasms, being in bed was very painful, now rest

> relieves the pain. I saw a physical medicine doctor at a back care clinic

> on Tues. I got the results of a CT scan and they looked pretty good for

> someone my age. He pressed around on my back and the tenderness is

> primarily on the right side.

> The confusion comes from the fact that I have an Interstim (sacral

> stimulator for the purpose of improving bladder function) implanted on the

> right side of my lower back. Recently (after the start of the back

> spasms) the stimulator reached the end of its life span. The battery is

> dead. They can not replace just the battery, they need to replace the

> entire unit. This involves surgery. Since the back pain started my

> mobility has deteriorated. At the initial onset of Reiters 13 years ago I

> developed nerve damage to my bladder, bowels, & a drop right foot. In the

> past few years my mobility became almost normal. Now, I'm back to slow,

> difficult mobility. My dilemma is knowing what I can attribute to the

> back pain and what is due to no longer having the sacral stimulation. I

> don't expect anyone here to have the answer since my doctor's don't have

> answers. I'm supposed to have an EMG next Thursday. The doctor said that

> he can tell new nerve, muscle damage from old damage. I guess if there is

> no new damage, I'll figure that the Interstim (sacral stimulation) was

> having a positive effect on my mobility. Although these devices are only

> marketed for the purpose of improving bladder function. I actually wrote

> Medtronics and they said that they can't offer medical advice and that

> there was no way of knowing what symptoms are due to no longer having the

> sacral stimulation. It is also interesting that I did not get a major

> improvement in my bladder function but bowels were much improved.

> Medtronics now doing a study of the usefulness of the Interstim for bowel

> function. They are looking for volunteers for the study. If interested

> go to their website www.interstim.com<http://www.interstim.com/> . It is

> just frustrating when doctors don't have the answers. I don't know if the

> spasms had an effect on the leads from the Interstim. It did have a low

> battery when they checked it last. The urologist had me scheduled for

> replacement of the Interstim and I told him I didn't feel well enough for

> the surgery. I thought it would be better to get some PT first on my

> back. I'm feeling very confused. I'm not blaming the doctors or

> Medtronics for not having answers. There is still so much that medical

> science doesn't know. I hope I haven't bored everyone. It helps clear up

> the picture in my mind to " get things on paper " .

> Kay

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay,

I suffered from bladder spasms and bad back pains. I was put on Endep 50

but now Endep 10 to control the spasms and the added benefit my back pain is

very controlled.

Endep on very high does over 100 is an anti-depressent but the doctor said

low doseis only controls pain.

Bye Lyn

[Guest guest]

>

> I am seeing the home page, but cant get into the group messages. It

> says invalid group. Is it just me?valarie

>

It wasn't you. It did that to me all day yesterday too. Who knows!

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal,

You might end up with the grand title of having an 'undifferentiated

spondyloarthropathy' (or in plain language, the name they give types of

inflammatory arthritis that don't neatly fit into any other category). My

rheumatologist isn't 100% sure that I have Reiter's/Reactive Arthritis, so

he uses that term to describe what I have. (I'm HLA-B27 negative.)

Another thing is that, over time, you can end up having several forms of

arthritis simultaneously. E.g. developing osteoarthritis as a result of

joint damage from the original inflammatory arthritis. (Or for joint

involvement to progress to the spine and evolve into ankolysing

spondylitis.)

One thing you have to admire about this family of diseases is that they're

certainly not dull and boring!

All the best,

[Guest guest]

Hi Sal and

You are right about the handy diagnosis of " Undifferentiated Spondyloarthopathy "

being a sort of catch all when someone is HLA B-27 negative. At one time our

illustious medical practioners would lump things under Chronic Fatigue and

Fibromyalgia to keep things tidy. Not many problems since the treatments are

all pretty much the same.

At one time if a lady went to a doctor with symptoms of AS the doctor would

state emphatically that women did not acquire AS. Of course we know that is

blatantly untrue, yet some practioners still hold to that belief.

Then of course the good old standby, " It's all in your head. " Have heard that

one more than a few times in my life, which is the reason I have the family

shrink on retainer. He is actually better than a " Father Confessor " , he does

not hand out Hail 's.

They also used to believe that a person could only have one of the Spondy's, and

that has proven wrong time and time again. Especially in my case. My own

theory on the Spondy's is that there is only one disease with several side

symptoms and disease processes.

I have AS, RA, RS, and PsA which were each diagnosed over time. First it was

the AS and Rheumatiod A. then Reiter's and lastly Psoriatic Arthritis, I also

have what they believe now is Sjrogren's Disease. By the time I slip off the

surly bonds of earth, I will have so many letters after my name that it will

take a full page for my obituary. But that will probably have to wait for

another 30 or 40 years. One distant relative made it to 106, by distant I mean

in kilometres. He is an Uncle on my mother's side whom I met only once in my

life and that was in the late 1940's.

You are also right when you say these diseases are not dull and boring.

Just when you seem to be fitting into a groove with medications and exercise

keeping the pain down, everything flares up again.

Blessings

Fr. Dave

who is confused every day

[Guest guest]

> You are also right when you say these diseases are not dull

and boring. Just when you seem to be fitting into a groove with

medications and exercise keeping the pain down, everything flares up

again.

>

> Blessings

>

> Fr. Dave

> who is confused every day

>

>

[Guest guest]

When I read your messages its as if you are writting about me--the

toes the middle finger --the scalp the whole bit I have been on mtx

and they took me off of it due to my livernow I am waiting for an

appointment for instruction on how to use the enbrel.

[Guest guest]

> I hope I haven't

bored everyone. It helps clear up the picture in my mind to " get

things on paper " .

> Kay

>

Don't ever feel like you are boring anyone with your messages,thats

what we are here for ,to share each others experiences,and to

encourage one another. It is helpful to know how other doctors treat

different situations and how different people respond to treatment.

So you just type until your little head is clear.who knows sometimes

on a fibro fog day ,I say something really smart then someone else

has to point it out to me.ha ha ha

[Guest guest]

Hey, I just want to say, Hang in there. It's tough to get the help you

want and need alot of times. Lots of trial and error are to be

expected. Asperger's affects so many of us in such different ways that

it is easily misdiagnosed as something else. I grew up as an Aspie

during a time that it wasn't being diagnosed for my age group at all. I

grew up with no one to understand me. Your child gets to be such a long

ways ahead of that. Please don't forget that, may that provide you some

length of hope since the medical profession is finally taking this

disorder into greater regard. I have the combination of Bipolar

disorder and Aspergers mixed together. Not only do I have trouble with

interpretations, but they get mixed with wild mood swings. Talk about a

thorny ride! Please know that my prayers go out to you and I hope for

the best for you and your child.

Dave

[Guest guest]

It's ok. I jumped to the subject because that title is the state I

live in (Confusion ;-P Get it? Ohh it isn't funny if I have to explain

it. *giggle*)

Don't mind me. I'm on sugar!!!

Hope your move is finished and join us anytime.

*Happy New Year*

B

>

> Maybe not the best title, but it was all i could think of. Sorry

about

> being so quiet since joining. We've been in the process of moving.

> Which has been stressful on all. Plus receiving my sons diagnosis of

> being on the spectrum. Just yesterday we enrolled in a program

> that specializes in teaching Autistics. Needless to say we've had our

> hands full.

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry to hear that.

I get exactly the same thing. I get really confused and start

stuttering and erming. This has only been happening for the last 3

years so I know it's not that I am dumb or mad.. I can't concentrate

on a book for more than 2 seconds, which has made it hard to complete

university. I was in year two but all over sudden it became so hard

cos apart from being sick all the time, I could not re-call anything I

read :-(

I get really frustrated as I will dream and I will forget the dream.

How weird is that? I hate being like this and I really want this

programme to work out.

>

> Hi,

>

> Sometimes, when I speak to people, it feels like I'm not quite the one

> speaking. As if I was merely watching and it's hard to concentrate on

> what I say.

>

> Is it due to candida or am I just crazy?

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi,

>

> Sometimes, when I speak to people, it feels like I'm not quite the

one

> speaking. As if I was merely watching and it's hard to concentrate on

> what I say.

>

> Is it due to candida or am I just crazy?

Oh ! No, you are not crazy! It is caused by toxins. This too

shall pass, fortunately.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

So what you are saying is if the toxins are no more I will stop acting

like a space cadet?

>

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > Sometimes, when I speak to people, it feels like I'm not quite the

> one

> > speaking. As if I was merely watching and it's hard to concentrate on

> > what I say.

> >

> > Is it due to candida or am I just crazy?

>

> Oh ! No, you are not crazy! It is caused by toxins. This too

> shall pass, fortunately.

>

> The best, Bee

>

[Guest guest]

, I have this very bad. In fact my husband started telling me I

had early Alzheimers. I laughed it off but was secretly afraid cause I

knew something was wrong.

It is all my short term memory. I have it so bad I will think of

something to google and type in google.com and forget what I wanted to

search for just that quick.

I thought maybe I had a stroke or Alzheimers disease. I am not going

to the doctor for a CAT scan or MRI. In fact, I don't think I will be

seeing another doctor unless I have a traumatic amputation, loss

consciousness or someone takes me there by ambulance.

I was already skeptical, but when a doctor will only acknowledge yeast

in the mouth or vagina, I lose all faith cause that means he has no

common sense. I mean isn't the mouth and vagina part of the whole body

and if yeast can overgrow in those places, it can grow anywhere in the

body.

Phyllis

>

> Hi,

>

> Sometimes, when I speak to people, it feels like I'm not quite the one

> speaking. As if I was merely watching and it's hard to concentrate on

> what I say.

>

> Is it due to candida or am I just crazy?

>

> .

>

[Guest guest]

>

> So what you are saying is if the toxins are no more I will stop acting

> like a space cadet?

Yes, that's correct. I have experienced this first hand. My mood swings have

become so

much better as I have progressed and detoxed. Just hang in there and trust your

body!

[Guest guest]

How long did it take you? I really want to get back into studying

again. I just gave it up as I could not retain anything in the middle

of year 2.

Did you follow the diet to the t?

-- In , " elisabeteriksson "

<elisabeteriksson@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > So what you are saying is if the toxins are no more I will stop acting

> > like a space cadet?

>

> Yes, that's correct. I have experienced this first hand. My mood

swings have become so

> much better as I have progressed and detoxed. Just hang in there

and trust your body!

>

>

[Guest guest]

My father has been experiencing this very same thing. It's become

something of a family joke lately. Whenever you ask him a question

about something that happened previously, his usual answer is, " I

can't recall. " It hasn't impacted his ability to continue

professionally but it's become a family catchphrase. He's only 61.

It's starting to freak me out. I have to be conservative about

pushing my 'health agenda' with him though, as he thinks it's all a

bit weird & over the top, LOL.

andra

>

> , I have this very bad. In fact my husband started telling me I

> had early Alzheimers. I laughed it off but was secretly afraid cause I

> knew something was wrong.

>

> It is all my short term memory. I have it so bad I will think of

> something to google and type in google.com and forget what I wanted to

> search for just that quick.

>

[Guest guest]

I feel so much better, not that other people are suffering, but that I

at least know why my brain is skipping on me. I was getting really

down and depressed wondering what was up with me.. At times I used to

think I am just really stupid cos I could not recall something I said

or did 2 seconds prior. I am glad to have this support system, it

makes the whole experience that much more bearable.

Thanks,

Berni.

> >

> > , I have this very bad. In fact my husband started telling me I

> > had early Alzheimers. I laughed it off but was secretly afraid cause I

> > knew something was wrong.

> >

> > It is all my short term memory. I have it so bad I will think of

> > something to google and type in google.com and forget what I wanted to

> > search for just that quick.

> >

>