Guest guest Posted September 24, 2003 Report Share Posted September 24, 2003 Hi Pamela, What kind of band did your son get? You said they used a scanner so am I correct in assuming it is a STARband? My son was banded on 8/26 and we had multiple adjustments in the first 3 weeks, trying to get a perfect fit. I have an appt next week for a scheduled adjustment and I know that some more changes need to happen. We have only been in it full time for 1 and 1/2 weeks now. My only advice is to keep doing what is right for Luke. Don't settle for anything less that what you feel is right. Keep on keepin' on...It's not an easy road, but we will find that the rewards are worth it (eventually!) This is a great place to get support and advice and I am sure you will get a lot of both from the members of this group. Good luck! - mom to Aidan STARbanded 8/026/03 GR MI --- In Plagiocephaly , " pfrunner2003 " <PFrunner@a...> wrote: > Hi All, > > My son got his band Sept. 19th. After 3 adjustments the orthodist > was not happy with the fit, neither was I. The first time he used a > plaster mold, this time he took a computer image. Hopefully this > band will fit better. I am using Hanger in NYC. Any advice or > experience anyone can offer will be gladly received. Thanks in > advance. > Pamela > Luke's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 I am sorry you have having trouble with the fit of the band. It it is great that the ortho is being proactive about getting another band with a better fit. Please let us know when the new band comes in. Welcome to the group. Angie and Jenna(STARband grad 1/21/03) Hi All,My son got his band Sept. 19th. After 3 adjustments the orthodist was not happy with the fit, neither was I. The first time he used a plaster mold, this time he took a computer image. Hopefully this band will fit better. I am using Hanger in NYC. Any advice or experience anyone can offer will be gladly received. Thanks in advance.PamelaLuke's momFor more plagio info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2003 Report Share Posted September 25, 2003 Pamela, hi and welcome to the group!! Hopefully this second band will do the trick. Please keep us posted on how things are going. Dustie --- In Plagiocephaly , " pfrunner2003 " <PFrunner@a...> wrote: > Hi All, > > My son got his band Sept. 19th. After 3 adjustments the orthodist > was not happy with the fit, neither was I. The first time he used a > plaster mold, this time he took a computer image. Hopefully this > band will fit better. I am using Hanger in NYC. Any advice or > experience anyone can offer will be gladly received. Thanks in > advance. > Pamela > Luke's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Jodi.. I take it your daughter had no vaccines and you are not rh - and you don't have any fillings and never eat fish? My son was more lead poisioned when his test came back-- because the body can distingish between calcium and lead.. Read the files here to find out about testing . Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 > Jodi.. I take it your daughter had no vaccines and you are not rh - and you don't have any fillings and never eat fish? My son was more lead poisioned when his test came back-- because the body can distingish between calcium and lead.. Read the files here to find out about testing . Ann >> No vaccines, no fish, no fillings. I am rh-, but how would having a negative blood type cause metals? That doesn't make sense to me. Sorry to seem so ignorant, I'm really new to this I haven't found anything in the files so far that has answered my questions. Can you suggest the file you were recommending? Thanks Sve by grace jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 > No vaccines, no fish, no fillings. I am rh-, but how would having a > negative blood type cause metals? That doesn't make sense to me. Becuase of thimerosal in RhoGam shots. (thimerosal = mercury) > Sorry to seem so ignorant, I'm really new to this nothing wrong with not knowing. most people don't. > I haven't found anything in the files so far that has answered my > questions. Can you suggest the file you were recommending? the hair test one is here: /files/HOW_TO_hair_test I'm not sure if something else besides this was being suggested. That's what I get for answering when someone else made the suggestion, but anyway, there is that link anyhow. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 In a message dated 17/10/2003 03:14:37 GMT Daylight Time, a4givensinner@... writes: > Wow! I'm really sooo ignorant, I don't even understand that > website. I just dont' know the lingo. Maybe this group is too > advanced for me! *grin* > Lots of us felt that way Jodi - stick with us - " we're worth it " LOL Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 > Becuase of thimerosal in RhoGam shots. (thimerosal = mercury) >>> I never had rhogam shots. > the hair test one is here: > > /files/HOW_TO_hair_test > > I'm not sure if something else besides this was being suggested. > That's what I get for answering when someone else made the > suggestion, but anyway, there is that link anyhow.>>> Wow! I'm really sooo ignorant, I don't even understand that website. I just dont' know the lingo. Maybe this group is too advanced for me! *grin* SVd by grace jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 > Hi. My name is Jodi, and I am new to this group. My 5yo daughter > has an autism/PDD-NOS diagnosis. She is in ST, OT, and on a GFCF > diet. I'm looking at testing her for metals, althought more to rule > it out than anything, but I may be surpriesd, and I am open to that > possibility. > > That having been said, from what little I know, my daughter has had > very little exposure to anything. Never the less, (as with > everything else we do *grin*) I would still like to become a " mini- > expert " in this area, and was wondering if someone would be able to > help walk me through it. > > I guess the place to start is the beginning..testing. I know > Doctor's Data does testing, and that Great Plains does testing. Can > someone tell me if there are other places that are frequently used by > parents? > > Also, I have heard hair tests, and urine tests. Can someone explain > (in real basic terms here) the pro's/con's of each. Also, are there > blood tests that can be done? Blood tests: generally shows current or recent exposure. Many doctors think it shows overall body burden. So the big risk with blood tests is misinterpretation. As in 'oh, see here, your kid is just fine.' Not necessarily. Urine and fecal tests (which can also be called " excretion tests " ): 1. many false positives and false negatives. 2. many practitioners recommend " challenge " tests. This usually means giving an unsafely large dose in an also unsafe timing method. You can read more about testing here: /files/ANDY_INDEX Look for sections about " determining toxicity " . > > That is good for now...like I said, I'm starting VERY beginning with > all this, and appreciate the help and patience of you for helping me > through this. (My thanks offered in advance!) You may want to also consider some of the books listed here: /files/Books_about_autism I recommend different ones for different purposes, depends what you are looking for. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 i;m lost many times to.....just read and jump in when you can [ ] Re: New to the group > Becuase of thimerosal in RhoGam shots. (thimerosal = mercury) >>> I never had rhogam shots. > the hair test one is here: > > /files/HOW_TO_hair_test > > I'm not sure if something else besides this was being suggested. > That's what I get for answering when someone else made the > suggestion, but anyway, there is that link anyhow.>>> Wow! I'm really sooo ignorant, I don't even understand that website. I just dont' know the lingo. Maybe this group is too advanced for me! *grin* SVd by grace jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Hi Jodi, Start with doing a hair elements test (the elements bit is important, don't just do the toxic one) with DDI. Then post it on the list if you need help interpreting it. By the way, my son is mercury toxic entirely due to mercury from my amalgam fillings which he picked up in the womb and through breast feeding. All the best, Dagmar. [ ] New to the group Hi. My name is Jodi, and I am new to this group. My 5yo daughter has an autism/PDD-NOS diagnosis. She is in ST, OT, and on a GFCF diet. I'm looking at testing her for metals, althought more to rule it out than anything, but I may be surpriesd, and I am open to that possibility. That having been said, from what little I know, my daughter has had very little exposure to anything. Never the less, (as with everything else we do *grin*) I would still like to become a " mini- expert " in this area, and was wondering if someone would be able to help walk me through it. I guess the place to start is the beginning..testing. I know Doctor's Data does testing, and that Great Plains does testing. Can someone tell me if there are other places that are frequently used by parents? Also, I have heard hair tests, and urine tests. Can someone explain (in real basic terms here) the pro's/con's of each. Also, are there blood tests that can be done? That is good for now...like I said, I'm starting VERY beginning with all this, and appreciate the help and patience of you for helping me through this. (My thanks offered in advance!) Svd by grace jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Stick with us Jodie, there's no better place to learn You need the files section, a bit at a time and then come back to the posts and shout if it doesn't make sense. Did you get the FAQ when you joined?, its a good place to start MAndi in UK > Does anyone here know of a good place for a beginner to learn the > basics about metal testing/chelation? THis group is too advanced for > a beginner like me, and I am not getting anything out of it. But > with so many experts, I'm hoping someone knows a good place to start. > > Thanks > jodi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hello Jodie > What I know is this: Some kids are high in metals, even when there > is no obvious exposure...(vaccines, etc). >>Correct There is some way to test > for this, (hair, etc) and there are differences in those ways that > make some better than others. >>>Correct There are different labs that do the > > tests, some prefered more than others. >>>Correct - see how much you know already!!!!!!!!! What those differences are, I > have no idea. >>>DDI is preferred for hair testing as Andy Cutler has calculated 'Counting Rules' for that format and tange of information. These rules help diagnose 'disordered mineral transport' which is one of the problems that Mercury causes. With this info you can assess the probablity of whether Mercury is an issue, Its not for everybody > > I like to make decisions for my daughter, and not just robotically > follow what a doctor tells me to do. >>Me too - sensible plan There is little I would like > > more than to have the tests done, and find out I need to worry about > nothing. But I know enough to know that some tests do not give > accurate results, and I wouldn't even know. >>>Depends on what you mean, Andy feels hair tests are very helpful in deciding whether this is an issue but don;t expect to be seeing Mercury on the result - it hides, that why we look for the problems it might cause. We all have heavy metals, it show good our body is at getting rid of them that is the issue here. Challenge/urine/blood tests can be misleading. Hair test is relatively cheap and totally painless. I don't feel educated > enough to justify making a decision on even getting > the testing done > yet. >>Don't worry, go at your own pace but the beauty of the hair test is you don;t need a doctor to take it or one to analyse it - people here will help you HTH Mandi in UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Does anyone here know of a good place for a beginner to learn the basics about metal testing/chelation? THis group is too advanced for a beginner like me, and I am not getting anything out of it. But with so many experts, I'm hoping someone knows a good place to start. Thanks jodi > Hi. My name is Jodi, and I am new to this group. My 5yo daughter > has an autism/PDD-NOS diagnosis. She is in ST, OT, and on a GFCF > diet. I'm looking at testing her for metals, althought more to rule > it out than anything, but I may be surpriesd, and I am open to that > possibility. > > That having been said, from what little I know, my daughter has had > very little exposure to anything. Never the less, (as with > everything else we do *grin*) I would still like to become a " mini- > expert " in this area, and was wondering if someone would be able to > help walk me through it. > > I guess the place to start is the beginning..testing. I know > Doctor's Data does testing, and that Great Plains does testing. Can > someone tell me if there are other places that are frequently used by > parents? > > Also, I have heard hair tests, and urine tests. Can someone explain > (in real basic terms here) the pro's/con's of each. Also, are there > blood tests that can be done? > > That is good for now...like I said, I'm starting VERY beginning with > all this, and appreciate the help and patience of you for helping me > through this. (My thanks offered in advance!) > > Svd by grace > jodi > ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 > Does anyone here know of a good place for a beginner to learn the > basics about metal testing/chelation? THis group is too advanced for > a beginner like me, and I am not getting anything out of it. But > with so many experts, I'm hoping someone knows a good place to start. > > Thanks > jodi This is the best I know of. That doesn't mean there aren't better options, but this is the best I know of. Here are a few intros about mercury that may be some help: http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm /files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ It also depends somewhat on what aspect you are interested in. If you are interested more in exposures or vaccine issues, there are other things I'd recommend. You also might try reading Dr. McCandless' book (Children with Starving Brains). It is NOT just about chelation, it covers lots of stuff. Can you say anything more about what you want to learn? good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 >>> It is NOT just about chelation, it covers lots of stuff... Can you say anything more about what you want to learn? >>> Chelation is about 100 steps beyond where I am at! Say you meet someone who has lived in the jungle, and never seen a car in his life. He asks you " What is that " ? You tell him " It's a car, you use it to get places without having to walk. " Facinated, he asks you to teach him about it. You are a mechanic, and you go into an extremly informative lecture on how to change the oil, rotate the tires, all the basic things anyone with a car needs to know. But what you don't tell him is how to open the door, turn the key on, or use the gas petal. So even though he has the head knowledge of how to maintain the vehicle, without the basics, it really doesn't matter, because he can't drive it to begin with. That is how I'm feeling reading these posts. I'm sure this is all good information, but it's soooo far beyond what I know that I am totally lost. DSMA...ABCD I might get them mixed up, I might not. I'm not sure what DSMA is. I'm barely grasping chelation. What I know is this: Some kids are high in metals, even when there is no obvious exposure...(vaccines, etc). There is some way to test for this, (hair, etc) and there are differences in those ways that make some better than others. There are different labs that do the tests, some prefered more than others. What those differences are, I have no idea. I like to make decisions for my daughter, and not just robotically follow what a doctor tells me to do. There is little I would like more than to have the tests done, and find out I need to worry about nothing. But I know enough to know that some tests do not give accurate results, and I wouldn't even know. I don't feel educated enough to justify making a decision on even getting the testing done yet. The " Incredibly new newbie " jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 > >>> It is NOT just about chelation, it covers lots of stuff... Can > you say anything more about what you want to learn? >>> > > Chelation is about 100 steps beyond where I am at! > > Say you meet someone who has lived in the jungle, and never seen a > car in his life. He asks you " What is that " ? You tell him " It's a > car, you use it to get places without having to walk. " trust my, you don't have to finish the example. I totally understand that this phenomenon exists. I've been describing it for years Really. I'm not exaggerating! This is a reason that is well-known-to-me that technical and/or knowledageble people SOMETIMES are not the best choices for teachers/lecturers/explainers/etc. > That is how I'm feeling reading these posts. Well, a lot of them are going to sound that way. See, we have a group here for people all kinds of people interested in cars. Some are mechanics, some are learning to drive, some have just heard of automotive transportation and want to know more. You may have to ignore some posts. Or, take it differently -- instead of trying to understand the POINT or issues the posts discusses (something about what type of oil is best to use for cross country trips vs for in-town driving, but only if you have a foreign car, unless it is also very cold where you live....) Ignore all those details--- maybe you can at least get the idea that " people here have opinions about car oil " . Okay. Good. That is something you can get out of it even if you are from the jungle. > I'm sure this is all > good information, but it's soooo far beyond what I know that I am > totally lost. DSMA...ABCD I might get them mixed up, I might not. > I'm not sure what DSMA is. I'm barely grasping chelation. Okay, what DMSA IS you can find out (very brief idea) here: /files/Glossary The glossary is not perfect, but you could try reading it over once every few days. Just read what interests you. Skip stuff that is alienating or incomprehensible. This will really work over time. Same thing in ANDY_INDEX. There is a lot in there, but just read what is interesting. Like, maybe you could read about sources of mercury exposure if that interests you. > > What I know is this: Some kids are high in metals, even when there > is no obvious exposure...(vaccines, etc). There is some way to test > for this, (hair, etc) and there are differences in those ways that > make some better than others. There are different labs that do the > tests, some prefered more than others. What those differences are, I > have no idea. Have you read this: /files/HOW_TO_hair_test Also, vaccines count as OBVIOUS EXPOSURE, at least in my book. Same with amalgam fillings. These 2 are the MOST obvious sources of exposure, to me. I realize I have not totally satisfied your questions, but I'm hoping that what I've said is enough to add a bit to your store of both understanding and new questions. Other ideas on testing: read the sections in ANDY_INDES about " determining toxicity " . > I like to make decisions for my daughter, and not just robotically > follow what a doctor tells me to do. There is little I would like > more than to have the tests done, and find out I need to worry about > nothing. But I know enough to know that some tests do not give > accurate results, and I wouldn't even know. I don't feel educated > enough to justify making a decision on even getting the testing done > yet. I am not sure how to say this that will be both clear and " nice " (or at least not appear mean). I don't feel the least bit mean about this, it is just a tough subject. Mercury tox, mercury detox, mercury testing, mercury chelation: all of these are HIGHLY controversial topics with MANY MANY MANY MANY different opinions. LOTS of conflicting opinions. So, at every turn, you get to decide: do I want to really understand the testing options? how deeply do I want to understand? or shall I try this way here? who shall I rely on? how MUCH do I want to try to verify their opinion? If you want to verify everything completely, it will be a very long very hard road. At the same time, of course, you may not want to verify nothing. It is all very complex and cumbersome. A lot of people don't like it. Some people complain that is SHOULD all be simple, or that the authorities SHOULD all agree so that it would not be so scary. Very sorry, this is not how it is. So, I've given you information that I think is very helpful about how to test your kid. (HOW_TO_hair_test). Now, you can go read 100 other opinions if you want. Not sure how much this addresses your questions. But do keep posting questions. And, do keep reading posts, files, URLs, books. I don't think we can make it all totally easy--- you still have to absorb all this, to whatever depth you want. It is a lot. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 ok I can help some. hair tests will show what the body is holding on to and releasing (in many cases you have to add on some points in a way of speaking to get accurate results on this one called the counting rules I believe), blood tests will show resent exposures and many will argue this isn't a good one to do to back track on. or you can do what is called a urine challenge test which is taking a chelator and then measuring what comes out in the urine. problem with this one is that you can't usually tell on mercury I believe because it is one of the last to come out. you can do the challenge with hair and get a pretty good picture. we are also new and I feel very overwhelmed. do you have a DAN dr that can talk to you about all this better. ours has helped greatly with explaining thing. a chelator takes what is binding to our Childs organs and looseness them up so they come out in urine sweet ect like they are suppose to and some how our kids have shut that ability off. we have had good luck with zinc supplementation at night to take out extra copper, and glutathione to catch free floating metals and junk. I'm not really sure what all it took out but his urine and sweet was discussing smelling for weeks. so it did something with it. there are all kinds of ways to have exposer to metals, water, fillings in the mouth, mom breast feeding and having fillings in her mouth, or having fillings made by metals and being pregnant. having RH- or + shots, vaccinations, thermometers exploding breaking ect. carpets and or binds in windows put off metals, children's mattresses and play pens can give metal over loads and the list goes on. Im going to mail you some charts that might help you some christel king [ ] Re: New to the group >>> It is NOT just about chelation, it covers lots of stuff... Can you say anything more about what you want to learn? >>> Chelation is about 100 steps beyond where I am at! Say you meet someone who has lived in the jungle, and never seen a car in his life. He asks you " What is that " ? You tell him " It's a car, you use it to get places without having to walk. " Facinated, he asks you to teach him about it. You are a mechanic, and you go into an extremly informative lecture on how to change the oil, rotate the tires, all the basic things anyone with a car needs to know. But what you don't tell him is how to open the door, turn the key on, or use the gas petal. So even though he has the head knowledge of how to maintain the vehicle, without the basics, it really doesn't matter, because he can't drive it to begin with. That is how I'm feeling reading these posts. I'm sure this is all good information, but it's soooo far beyond what I know that I am totally lost. DSMA...ABCD I might get them mixed up, I might not. I'm not sure what DSMA is. I'm barely grasping chelation. What I know is this: Some kids are high in metals, even when there is no obvious exposure...(vaccines, etc). There is some way to test for this, (hair, etc) and there are differences in those ways that make some better than others. There are different labs that do the tests, some prefered more than others. What those differences are, I have no idea. I like to make decisions for my daughter, and not just robotically follow what a doctor tells me to do. There is little I would like more than to have the tests done, and find out I need to worry about nothing. But I know enough to know that some tests do not give accurate results, and I wouldn't even know. I don't feel educated enough to justify making a decision on even getting the testing done yet. The " Incredibly new newbie " jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 >>> This is a reason that is well-known-to-me that technical and/or knowledageble people SOMETIMES are not the best choices for teachers/lecturers/explainers/etc. >>> I agree. Hope things all go well with you all! Bye! jodi ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Jodi-- did you see my separate post to you-- just email me and I will send you my write-up that explains some of the basic basics of chelating. Just click on my addy below maryandphilip@... I don't see a message from you so maybe that addy isn't working--then try my work addy maryw@... In the meantime, consider that just about all of us were as new as you, not understanding what the heck everyone was talking about. Like I said, eventually, things start to make sense. Don't leave the board though because what little you are able to pick out of the messages right now is probably going to save you a lot of grief later on. If you don't understand the basics, then you might be given an improper protocol by a doctor and then you end up making your child feel worse. So at least stay on just to simply see what people are using/doing. Again, send me an email privately and I'll send you my write-up on how I figured out what chelation means, what to use, some things to read, etc. W >> >> That is how I'm feeling reading these posts. I'm sure this is all > good information, but it's soooo far beyond what I know that I am > totally lost. DSMA...ABCD I might get them mixed up, I might not. > I'm not sure what DSMA is. I'm barely grasping chelation. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Hi Jodi, I remember that I started from this article http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm Another good place to start is Mercury-Autism FAQ in the Files section of this group. Margaret > > Hi. My name is Jodi, and I am new to this group. My 5yo daughter > > has an autism/PDD-NOS diagnosis. She is in ST, OT, and on a GFCF > > diet. I'm looking at testing her for metals, althought more to > rule > > it out than anything, but I may be surpriesd, and I am open to that > > possibility. > > > > That having been said, from what little I know, my daughter has had > > very little exposure to anything. Never the less, (as with > > everything else we do *grin*) I would still like to become a " mini- > > expert " in this area, and was wondering if someone would be able to > > help walk me through it. > > > > I guess the place to start is the beginning..testing. I know > > Doctor's Data does testing, and that Great Plains does testing. > Can > > someone tell me if there are other places that are frequently used > by > > parents? > > > > Also, I have heard hair tests, and urine tests. Can someone > explain > > (in real basic terms here) the pro's/con's of each. Also, are > there > > blood tests that can be done? > > > > That is good for now...like I said, I'm starting VERY beginning > with > > all this, and appreciate the help and patience of you for helping > me > > through this. (My thanks offered in advance!) > > > > Svd by grace > > jodi > > ><}}}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Jodi, Welcome to the list. Some of the experts here were in your shoes not all that long ago. We've joked on the list that many here could/should have received a Master's in Toxic Metals and Chelation from all they've learned since joining the list. If you stick with us, I bet in a couple months you'll be posting a reply to someone new saying, " I think I know the answer to your question... " We review a LOT and often on this list. S From: moriamerri [mailto: moriam@...] Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:31:33 -0000 Subject: [ ] Re: New to the group <html><body> <tt> <BR> > Does anyone here know of a good place for a beginner to learn the <BR> > basics about metal testing/chelation? THis group is too advanced for <BR> > a beginner like me, and I am not getting anything out of it. But <BR> > with so many experts, I'm hoping someone knows a good place to start.<BR> > <BR> > Thanks<BR> > jodi<BR> <BR> This is the best I know of. That doesn't mean there aren't<BR> better options, but this is the best I know of.<BR> <BR> Here are a few intros about mercury that may be some help:<BR> <a href= " http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm " >http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm\ </a><BR> <a href= " http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm " >http://www.healing-arts.o\ rg/children/holmes.htm</a><BR> <a href= " /files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ " >h\ ttp:///group/ /files/Mercury-Autism%20FAQ</a> <BR> <BR> It also depends somewhat on what aspect you are interested in.<BR> If you are interested more in exposures or vaccine issues,<BR> there are other things I'd recommend.<BR> <BR> You also might try reading Dr. McCandless' book (Children<BR> with Starving Brains). It is NOT just about chelation,<BR> it covers lots of stuff.<BR> <BR> Can you say anything more about what you want to learn?<BR> <BR> good wishes,<BR> Moria<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705061\ 616:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?cam\ p=556 & lineid=3614674 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sl/sleepangel/sleep_300x250.gif " alt= " " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=926779670 " ></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2003 Report Share Posted October 18, 2003 > Does anyone here know of a good place for a beginner to learn the > basics about metal testing/chelation? Here is my intro page http://www.danasview.net/chelate.htm >> THis group is too advanced for > a beginner like me, and I am not getting anything out of it. This group is too advanced for me many times also, but I have successfully chelated my kids because of information I received here, so don't go away, just ignore the messages that you don't understand. Then as you begin to understand things, start reading a few of the " advanced " messages. Soon you will learn more things that may help your child. Good luck. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 -I just want to welcome you to the group. We are in Missouri. Good luck with your insurance! Angie and Jenna(STARband grad) -- In Plagiocephaly , " kelli mitchetti " <kgrange@h...> wrote: > Hi everyone my name is Kelli and I have an 8 month old preemie () who has plagio and needs to be cast... Just looking to see if there is anyone elese in the New York area that went to C.P.O. Consulting in Manhatten, NY... This is where out Dr told us to take her my only thing now is getting the insurance to approve the band.. Any advice or words of encouragement is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > Kelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 30, 2003 Report Share Posted October 30, 2003 Hi Kelli & welcome to our group!! Glad to have you with us. We have many New York members in our group who I'm sure will reply to you with some local info.. Hopefully at least one member is familiar with CPO in Manhatten. Hope your ins. covers the band w/o problems, what ins. do you have?? Keep us posted. Debbie Abby's mom DOCGrad Mich. > Hi everyone my name is Kelli and I have an 8 month old preemie () who has plagio and needs to be cast... Just looking to see if there is anyone elese in the New York area that went to C.P.O. Consulting in Manhatten, NY... This is where out Dr told us to take her my only thing now is getting the insurance to approve the band.. Any advice or words of encouragement is greatly appreciated. > > Thanks > > Kelli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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