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> Sala wrote:

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> Group.........thought I'd add my 2 cents worth on Glucosamine Sulfate.

> I think you are correct, , about GS addressing OA and not RA. In

Glucosamine Sulfate is a primary building block used by the body for

building, repair and replacing cartilage. As such it is effective for

*any* cartilage damage including RA, blunt trauma, surgery, etc.

Has no relationship to the disease proper.

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>From: Geoff Crenshaw <geoff@...>

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>> Sala wrote:

>>

>> Group.........thought I'd add my 2 cents worth on Glucosamine Sulfate.

>> I think you are correct, , about GS addressing OA and not RA. In

>

>Glucosamine Sulfate is a primary building block used by the body for

>building, repair and replacing cartilage. As such it is effective for

>*any* cartilage damage including RA, blunt trauma, surgery, etc.

>

>Has no relationship to the disease proper.

>

oops..........looks like I stand corrected!

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> " Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you; He eats grass like

>an ox. Behold now, his strength in his loins, and his power in the

>muscles of his belly. He bends his tail like a cedar; The sinews of his

>thighs are knit together. His bones are tubes of bronze; His limbs are

>like bars of iron. He is the first of the ways of God. "

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>God speaking to Job...

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> Marcia,

> I've been on the Glucosamine/Chondroytin for about 8 months now. My

> understanding is that most folks don't feel a difference before 4 months of

> taking the med consistently. Also, I believe the med/supplement is most

> effective w/arthritic and bone wasting type conditions, which is probably why

> it has not helped me. This is just one experience though. Good luck w/it.

> Ann

Thanks for the info Ann,

I am having some arthritis type symptoms now along with the other

muscle/joint/cfs stuff so maybe it will help me. Wow 4 months is a long time to

wait! As usual another expensive supplement to

add to the budget!!! <groan>

Marcia

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HI,

I am taking fosomax for osteopenia which is precuser to osteoporsis. I had

no synptoms at all and thought I was too young for this! A bone scan is

like having an X-ray taken and was well worth the while for me as fosomax

actually rebuilds bone. However, I do also take calcium and HRT for same

condition. My Rheum, who had osteoporsis(and has sjogrens) has rebuilt

most of her bone with this regimine. But glucosamine is recommended for

people having autoimmune disease with bone and joint involvement.

CHristie

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>> Marcia,

>> I've been on the Glucosamine/Chondroytin for about 8 months now. My

>> understanding is that most folks don't feel a difference before 4 months of

>> taking the med consistently. Also, I believe the med/supplement is most

>> effective w/arthritic and bone wasting type conditions, which is

probably why

>> it has not helped me. This is just one experience though. Good luck w/it.

>> Ann

>

>Thanks for the info Ann,

>

>I am having some arthritis type symptoms now along with the other

muscle/joint/cfs stuff so maybe it will help me. Wow 4 months is a long

time to wait! As usual another expensive supplement to

>add to the budget!!! <groan>

>

>Marcia

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Yes it is true, Glucosamine and Chondroitin is popular at veterinary

clinics. I have been working with veterinarians for the past 12 years,

and over the last 4 years, many cats and

dogs who have arthritis have been put on Cosequin. This is the name of

the glucosamine which is prescribed by vets. It is a better choice for

their pain and stiffness unlike the other medication called Rimadyl, or

Carprofen-which causes liver damage.

Dawn

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I just bought vitamins yesterday that include

glucosamine. Glucosamine is suppose to support joint

mobility. What's the deal? Now I don't know whether

to take them or not.

--- Margaretha Straates <greetje@...> wrote:

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> To all,

>

> A friend asked me to look up about " incense pills "

> she

> is taking.

> I found it is made with the herb Boswellia and is

> sold

> in the US as glucosamine. Strangely enough in Europe

>

> the stuff only can be bought in Germany and one

> Swiss

> canton (province) while in America it's an over the

> counter drug. I shall never understand the drug

> laws.

> What I wanted to say is that the information

> (www.go-

> symmetry.com/boswellia.htm) states: " The people with

>

> weak immune systems should not use boswellia like

> pregant women and very old people. "

> So maybe for those on DMARDS it would not be so good

>

> either.

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> Greetings.

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Hi ,

My Dr has me on Glucosamine Sulfate, 3 pills a day. I

just started but he swears by them. He also wants me

to do the Knox Gelitan stuff any info on that out

there?

Judy

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Ive been taking GS for over ayear with some results.I tried knok gelatin for

3mo. didn't notice anything.Good luck!

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> My Dr has me on Glucosamine Sulfate, 3 pills a day. I

> just started but he swears by them. He also wants me

> to do the Knox Gelitan stuff any info on that out

> there?

>

> Judy

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I found that glucosamine combined with chondroitin works better than

glucosamine by itself and it only helps my knees, but it helps a lot. it

takes about a month to notice a change.

Bana

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I tried glucosamine/condritin (wrong spelling) for a while and it did nothing

for me. A friend of mine has an old Irish Setter dog with arthritis. She

put her dog on it and the dog is much better. We have 2 mini dachshunds that

are 11. Molly has back problems and she was on pred. 5mg. for a short spell

which helped some. Then the vet put her on another med which was not as

effective. I had gluco/chondri left over and started giving her 1/day and

she is really better. This is just FYI. God Bless Betty in Va.

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I DO take glucsosamine and it DOES help! My rheumy said there was nothing

more he could do for the PA, that the inflammation looked under control with

EPO and he thought the continuing pain in my feet had to be osteoarthritis.

He sent me to a foot orthopedist. That doc recommended glucosamine but

could not specify a brand or dose. My naturopath said since I was already

taking EPO, glucosamine with essential fatty acids (EFAs) would be the

perfect complement. And it was. the brand is Health From the Sun. I have

very little discomfort in my feet or hands anymore and am off Vioxx and all

other pain meds except the occasional Tylenol.

Somone else on the list said it very well - we're all different and what

works today may not work tomorrow. The challenge is keeping up with our

changing needs. So don't knock the glucosamine. If it doesn't work for

you, move on. If it does, yeah!

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Just my 2cents on the glucosamine.

I've been using it for about a year and I'm happy to have it. I believe it

stopped the 'snapping' that used to occur with nearly every knee movement.

Happy Holidays

Be Well

Jeanne In Idaho

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Glucosamine

Would glucosamine supplements be beneficial, avoid, neutral for an O

secretor? I'm having problems with my knees, I'm going to have to take

this

whole week off form running wlaking etc, very sad O... My mother,

stepfather, gradma, take it and have had excellent results, my stepfather

has spoke with a feww surgeons who highly recommend it...

-Amy O+ secretor, being a lazy lump, beacuse my knee won't stop hurting...

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You may be allergic to the filler, or maybe there are shells in it and your allergic to shellfish. Try a different brand your allergic to something in it.

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********On 5/1/2002 at 7:34 AM Kelli Dickerson wrote:

Dear group,

After hearing and reading about all the good things that glucosamine does, I dug out a bottle that I had on hand and started taking it again. The suggested dose for 120lbs and less was 2 capsules (1000 mg) 3X per day. Thursday night I started with two capsules, and I was a bit more stiff than usual on Friday, but I had been to my son's school to co-op Thursday afternoon (only the second time since I had been sick), so I thought the stiffness may be due to over extending myself. I continued with the Glucosamine, and have become more and more stiff.

This is an ocean based product with no beef additives. Does anyone have any ideas or knowledge of reactions? By the way, I have taken this product prior to coming down with RA, and had no ill effects.

Kelli

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In a message dated 5/1/02 10:38:55 AM Eastern Daylight Time, kpdcpa@... writes:

Does anyone have any ideas or knowledge of reactions?

By any chance are you allergic to shellfish bec most glucosamine has a shellfish base. My mom started taking glucosamine and got a rash on her nose and her right hand.

Carol E from NY

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<Hi everybody, this is from Michigan, my surgery was

<11-15-00.I'm doing quite well have lost 150#. It seems I have

<arthiritis in my knee & my Dr sugested I try glucosamine , I emailed <Dr R. to

make sure it's ok but he hasn't responded ( his email hasn't

>changed has it?) Has anyone tried glucosamine?

<Thanks,

I had the MGB in October of 1999, and have taken Glucosamine/Chondroitin for my

arthritis for years. I too asked

Dr. R about it and he said he really didn't know anything about it. (This was 3

years ago.) I have never had any problems with my stomach but the few times I

have run out of it I could DEFINATELY tell the difference. I take take 3

caplets per day, or 1500 mg From Walmart. The Glucosamine has shown that it

repairs and maintains the lubricating coverage on the joints, and the

Chondroitin helps maintain the body's connective tissue.

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Hello all:

I post this once in a while because I think it is a good resource

for Glucosamine info:

http://www.drtheo.com

He wrote " The Arthritis Cure " which has alot of info in G/C

supplementation.

I just noticed that Dr. Theo wrote another book:

" Don't Let Your HMO Kill You : How to Wake Up Your Doctor, Take

Control of Your Health, and Make Managed Care Work for You "

by , Dr Theodosakis, T. Feinberg

Looks like it might be good reading for those of you having trouble

with the medical system, at least in the U.S.

HTH,

Doug

>

> There are different brands of glucosamine and some we can absorb

better. Maybe it is a good idea to compare lables and ask people who

work at vitamin stores. But of course, differents things work for

different people. For me, I have to agree that some direct sells

companies have good supplements.

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Hi Everyone,

I know that this question has been discussed before at great length, but at

that time I didn't need it so I didn't pay enough attention.

What kind of Glucosamine are O's supposed to take. I remember it is

different than the common kind you see in the HFS.

I lent my book to someone and can't look it up at the moment.

Thanks,

Sharon (Ontario) Canada

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Hi Sharon,

Glucosamine Sulfate for Group O, anti-inflamation; supports connective

tissue. It's used to treat kidney stones and osteoarthitis, and for wound

healing. This is straight from the Encyclopedia.

Re: Re: Glucosamine

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I know that this question has been discussed before at great length, but

at

> that time I didn't need it so I didn't pay enough attention.

>

> What kind of Glucosamine are O's supposed to take. I remember it is

> different than the common kind you see in the HFS.

>

> I lent my book to someone and can't look it up at the moment.

>

> Thanks,

> Sharon (Ontario) Canada

>

>

>

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For what its worth.....

Glucosamine may or may not have risks associated w/ its use. This article

though fails to add much (if anything) to the topic. If I am a Dr (one that

has graduated from an other than off-shore med school) and I make the bold

statement, " significant risk of side effects, including increased

carbohydrate intolerance (i.e., insulin resistance) and reduced energy

production, " then by accepted standards, I would cite the evidence that led

to this conclusion (wth is significant?). If not the data, then at least

the source of the data. If he's getting this from the British Sports

Journal, then maybe that's why he is hesitating to go into any detail.

And let's think about this, just about anything you ingest is going to

impact your blood sugar and ATP utilization, at least temporarily. If he

truly had a worthwhile point to get across, then he shouldn't mickey mouse

it and he shouldn't hawk his book in the very same article - something to do

w/ credibility (but then who needs to be credible on the internet).

Just couldn't leave it alone,

Jeff

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rheumatic

Subject: rheumatic glucosamine

Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:06:35 -0400

Hi all,

My acupuncturist warned me about some risks associated with glucosamine -

found a site with detailed info if anyone is interested. FWIW, glucosamine

is really for osteo, not RA. I choose to take MSM without the

glucosamine/chondroitin combo.

YMMV! http://mafgroup.securedata.net/sports/nutrition/sn_021003.shtml

Paige

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I've used it for 2 years or more fairly religiously. I'm " breaking out " with

arthritis everywhere else, but not in my knees. Can't prove it's due to the

glucosamine, but I'm guessing that's why. I sure hope so because I do not need

arthritis in my knees.

Ann

glucosamine

has anyone tried using glucosamine? my doc recommended it. Has it

helped?

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> has anyone tried using glucosamine? my doc recommended it. Has it

> helped?

I am using it. I know for a year the only thing getting me through was a

combo of glucosamine and vioxx. Neither one alone would do the trick. Now

I am able to function with just glucosamine and wrapping with an Ace wrap or

Tubigrip to keep the inflammation down. I have had four arthroscopic

surgeries on my knees in the last year......just trying to live again.

Mike

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I don't know whether you're responding to my post. I started taking it over 2

years ago. It hasn't improved my chondromalacia but I believe has prevented

osteoarthritis in my knees, since I've gotten osteoarthritis in many other place

in the last year.

But some people here feel that it has improved their chondromalacia. I'm open

to that, it just didn't happen with me.

Ann

Re: glucosamine

I just started it two days ago. I hope it helps me.

Dorrie

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