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Hello all,

I was recently researching the effect the liver had on thyroid hormones

(still trying to figure out how to resolve the hairloss issue) and discovered

that a diseased liver could contribute to hypothyroidism stating that the

liver converts T3 to T4 and this process becomes ineffective when the liver

is diseased. I read this on the Merck website.

It also stated that long term use of PTU can cause liver damage and the site

named several other drugs.

Thought the info may be useful to some. Couldn't determine if there was a

link to hyperthyroidism and liver disease though.

Deb

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The Chinese Herbs I'm taking are for cleansing the liver. Most

acupuncturists I have worked with have put their attention into dealing with

my liver.

Did you notice if Tapazol was on the list of medications that can cause liver

problems? My endo said I had nothing to worry about.

Esther

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DearEsther@... wrote:

> The Chinese Herbs I'm taking are for cleansing the liver. Most

> acupuncturists I have worked with have put their attention into dealing with

> my liver.

Taraxacum tincture (dandelion root) is very good for liver cleansing.

> Did you notice if Tapazol was on the list of medications that can cause liver

> problems? My endo said I had nothing to worry about.

PTU, definitely. Don't know about tapazole, though.

Me.

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You can see why I'm promoting glutathione, the body's main antioxidant and

liver support for stage 2 function...and I'm not alone. Doctors are using

it.

Check out Immunocal - glutathione producer in the body that dramatically

lowers viral load. I've seen some of the 20,000 recent studies - it's the

only food that's in the U.S. Physician's Desk Reference AND The Pharmacist's

Red Book, and has a method of use patent on lowering HIV viral load and also

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Call 1-888-830-4040 for free pre-recorded information. There's 1.5 hours of

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What about those who have problems with casein, or dairy products--should we

be concerned about a reaction to the base ingredient that this supplement is

derived from?

Patty

Re: liver function

> You can see why I'm promoting glutathione, the body's main antioxidant and

> liver support for stage 2 function...and I'm not alone. Doctors are using

> it.

>

> Check out Immunocal - glutathione producer in the body that dramatically

> lowers viral load. I've seen some of the 20,000 recent studies - it's the

> only food that's in the U.S. Physician's Desk Reference AND The

Pharmacist's

> Red Book, and has a method of use patent on lowering HIV viral load and

also

> tumours too.

>

> The book, " Breakthrough in Cell Defense " by Gustavo Bounous that says it

> all. The stuff even has serious anti-aging effect by reducing free

radicals,

> the main cause of aging.

>

> Call 1-888-830-4040 for free pre-recorded information. There's 1.5 hours

of

> description and doctors' testimonials on there. You will need a

distributor

> contact to get the product. My ID# is 57023.

>

> <<End of pitch>>

>

> ciao

>

> Duncan

>

>

>

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Hi Patty;

<<What about those who have problems with casein, or dairy products--should

we be concerned about a reaction to the base ingredient that this supplement

is

derived from?>>

The documentation states that by far the most common allergies are to the

casein or the fats in the cows milk. There are neither in the Immunocal, and

it's diabetic safe.

And the protein isolate is called HMS-90 in Canada because it's the isolate

that closely resembles a human protein and is directly absorbable through

the lumen of the small intestine. Cow's milk has predominantly large

proteins but apparently this one's not so large.

The main obstacle to some is that it's from exploited animal sources.

ciao

Duncan Crow

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Hi Patty;

<<What about those who have problems with casein, or dairy products--should

we be concerned about a reaction to the base ingredient that this supplement

is

derived from?>>

The documentation states that by far the most common allergies are to the

casein or the fats in the cows milk. There are neither in the Immunocal, and

it's diabetic safe.

And the protein isolate is called HMS-90 in Canada because it's the isolate

that closely resembles a human protein and is directly absorbable through

the lumen of the small intestine. Cow's milk has predominantly large

proteins but apparently this one's not so large.

The main obstacle to some is that it's from exploited animal sources.

ciao

Duncan Crow

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Dr. S.,

Do you have any recommendation for further liver testing other than LFT for

those that have a " normal " function but still think they have problems?

Lee

RE: Zoloft and liver function or FM Cause

> Hi Dr Schaller,

>

> I asked because I had recent blood work that showed an elevated ALT. I

> have never had one before. I am trying to figure out what is going on in

> my body. My doctor did not give me any advice, she just ordered a blood

> test for hepatitis. What are liver protectants? What are other possible

> causes besides hepatitis?

>

> Thank you so much for your help!

> -Dawn

>

>

> Possible. But not common.> > We like all folks to be on liver

> protectants.> > Many common causes of FM can increase ALT's.> > Thanks for

> shaving idea Dawn. I passed it along to the patient. Creative.> >

> Schaller, MD

>

>

>

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Dr Schaller,

I clicked on the articles and it sent me right back to your web page.

I'd love to read some.

Thanks,

L

On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:05 AM, jschaller wrote:

> Just a sample:

>

> Old news to many

>

> http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/detoxpart2.html?

> lp=d623927f0576af144d12070409bca011

>

> This was done on the fly so not sure how up to date....

>

> Dr. J

>

>

> RE: Zoloft and liver function or FM Cause

>

>

> > Hi  Dr Schaller,

> >

> > I asked because I had recent blood work that showed an elevated

> ALT.  I

> > have never had one before.  I am trying to figure out what is going

> on in

> > my body.  My doctor did not give me any advice, she just ordered a

> blood

> > test for hepatitis.  What are liver protectants?  What are other

> possible

> > causes besides hepatitis?

> >

> > Thank you so much for your help!

> > -Dawn

> >

> >

> > Possible. But not common.> > We like all folks to be on liver

> > protectants.> > Many common causes of FM can increase ALT's.> >

> Thanks for

> > shaving idea Dawn. I passed it along to the patient. Creative.> >

>

> > Schaller, MD

> >

> >

> >

> > Search on the go: Try Windows Live Search for Mobile beta

> >

> http://www1.imagine-msn.com/minisites/mobile/Default.aspx?locale=en-us

> >

> >

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L

It's a good read....... thanks Dr. Schaller

mjh

Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:35:34 -0500

From: Lucey <susan.lucey@...>

Subject: Re: liver function

Dr Schaller,

I clicked on the articles and it sent me right back to your web page.

I'd love to read some.

Thanks,

L

On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:05 AM, jschaller wrote:

> Just a sample:

>

> Old news to many

>

> http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/detoxpart2.html?

> lp=d623927f0576af144d12070409bca011

>

> This was done on the fly so not sure how up to date....

>

> Dr. J

>

mjh

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http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

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Hello MJH and Dr Schaller,

mjh, I've missed reaqding and keeping up - it's always good to read

your posts.

Dr Schaller, an clue about the articles? I would click on the article

and then it would bring up your homepage -? -

Thanks and blessings-

L

On Apr 9, 2006, at 9:31 PM, foxhillers@... wrote:

>

>

> L

> It's a good read....... thanks Dr. Schaller

> mjh

>

> Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2006 13:35:34 -0500

> From:  Lucey <susan.lucey@...>

> Subject: Re: liver  function

>

> Dr Schaller,

>

> I clicked on the articles and it sent me  right back to your web page.

>

> I'd love to read  some.

>

> Thanks,

> L

>

>

> On Apr 9, 2006, at 4:05 AM,  jschaller wrote:

>

> > Just a sample:

> >

> >  Old news to  many

> >

> > http://www.personalconsult.com/articles/detoxpart2.html? 

> > lp=d623927f0576af144d12070409bca011

> >

> >  This was  done on the fly so not sure how up to date....

> >

> >  Dr.  J

> >

>

>

>

>

> mjh

> " The  Basil  Book "

> http://foxhillfarm.us/FireBasil/

>

>

>

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Hi ,

In my brain fogged state, I was having the same problem. It took me about ten

minutes of back and forth and hunting around until I realized that I needed to

scroll down on the page. Is it possible this is the same problem you are

having? It really is a very helpful and informative article.

Take care,

Dawn M

Dr Schaller,> >> > I clicked on the articles and it sent me right back to your

web page.> >> > I'd love to read some.> >> > Thanks,> >

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Thanks Dawn,

Definitely brain challenged. Thanks for your help!

On Apr 10, 2006, at 12:32 AM, Dawn Munn wrote:

> Hi ,

>

> In my brain fogged state, I was having the same problem.  It took me

> about ten minutes of back and forth and hunting around until I

> realized that I needed to scroll down on the page.  Is it possible

> this is the same problem you are having?  It really is a very helpful

> and informative article.

>

> Take care,

> Dawn M

>

>

> Dr Schaller,> >> >  I clicked on the articles and it sent me  right

> back to your web page.> >> >  I'd love to read  some.> >> >  Thanks,>

> > 

>

>

>

> Search on the go: Try Windows Live Search for Mobile beta

> http://www1.imagine-msn.com/minisites/mobile/Default.aspx?locale=en-us

>

>

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Thanks Darlin.

Eva XXOO

From: Lottie Duthu

Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 1:18 PM

CML

Subject: [ ] Liver function

Dear Eva,

We have all been Fraidy Cats, and more than once. I know of several people who

had problems with their liver, but they took several vacations and eventually

got to PCRU, still on Gleevec. When I started the trial I am in, I had terrible

hives in my face and upper body, stopped for 3 weeks at a time and would go back

to my same dosage. I think your liver is just trying to get adjusted. If that

doesn't work, there are other drugs they can put you on.

I felt pain in my shin bones (tibia) before I got up this morning, and I said to

myself, " Praise the Lord, it's working to kill the phillies. " We don't know

exactly what these TKI's are doing all of the time and exactly how and where

they work, but just imagine where we would all be without them. Just hang in

there Eva, I look at it as though it were a giant overhaul of my body parts. LOL

Blessings, Eva, that rainbow is just around the corner.

Lottie

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Hi Eva: You have a lot of people who care about you on here, and it can be hard

to think positive thoughts all the time. I do not think there is even one of

us, who have not had days where we dwelled on the negative. Just remember that

you have no concrete answers yet as to why the liver functions have elevated

like this. Stopping the Gleevec was your first step to see what is going on

with your liver.

You are not alone. There always seems to be someone on here to answer or

talk to you about whatever bothers you.

When I was on Interferon and my liver functions went up. I do not remember

my numbers, but they stopped the Interferon and combination of Ara-C to see if

my liver would bounce back. IN the meantime I was being rushed into seeing all

these specialists for a BMT. I was new to all of it, and went to all these

consults. There was nothing else to offer me at that time. I thought BMT was

my only choice, until I saw a doctor in New York. No hesitation, he said NO

TRANSPLANT till we see what else we can do. Look for other options first.

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Thanks yea I go back on Apr. 1st. The crazy thing is, other than tired ...LOL .

I feel better than I have in a year physically. Thanks for your encouraging

words.

Eva

From: suzzienovember

Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:03 PM

Subject: [ ] RE: LIVER FUNCTION

Hi Eva: You have a lot of people who care about you on here, and it can be hard

to think positive thoughts all the time. I do not think there is even one of us,

who have not had days where we dwelled on the negative. Just remember that you

have no concrete answers yet as to why the liver functions have elevated like

this. Stopping the Gleevec was your first step to see what is going on with your

liver.

You are not alone. There always seems to be someone on here to answer or talk to

you about whatever bothers you.

When I was on Interferon and my liver functions went up. I do not remember my

numbers, but they stopped the Interferon and combination of Ara-C to see if my

liver would bounce back. IN the meantime I was being rushed into seeing all

these specialists for a BMT. I was new to all of it, and went to all these

consults. There was nothing else to offer me at that time. I thought BMT was my

only choice, until I saw a doctor in New York. No hesitation, he said NO

TRANSPLANT till we see what else we can do. Look for other options first.

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Hi Eva: I was under the same impression that you are, but also not everyone is

the same. When I was doing the Interferon treatment and it started to destroy

my liver, there was a elderly man who was on Interferon and he made me laugh.

He loved it, and had no problem with it. He preferred to give himself the

injection everyday, rather than take a simple pill everyday. We both had the

same doctor, and even the doctor was amazed at how he could handle a stronger

treatment and like it with no side effects. He finally went on the Gleevec, but

I lost track of him. I have been curious as to how he is doing.

So, just because this doctor thinks other meds might be harder on the liver for

you, it is not necessarily true in all cases.

Have you gotten other opinions at all?

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