What's in a name?

[Guest guest]

..

> From: " W. Birk " <wb4@...>

>

> I am starting to get confused with so many people!

>

Hi All, me too, and I have forgotten and/or confused situations, children,

details, etc., etc. Are listmember's intros archived anywhere?

Thanks, Indiana Kathy R. (not as catchy as " Aloha Kathy " but we can't all

live in Hawaii! . . . :-)

[Guest guest]

Jim and his son from San Diego will be at the May OCSDA along with

Jim's sister Ann from Kansas City.

Jim

[Guest guest]

Yes, I will be at OCSDA also on Saturday only (driving up and back from San

Diego) and would like to get together.

San Diego Chris

P.S. Implemented the poker chip trading idea and you ought to see my house!

Kids asking if they could fold the laundry for me, sweep the back deck, and

pointing out how they didn't yell and worked things out between them!!

Don't know if it'll last, but the positive attitude is refreshing around

here! Most importantly, they seem to feel genuinely good about getting

strokes for good behavior and keep asking me if I'm proud of them.

[Guest guest]

Hi Chris:

You are right, these behavior mod programs focusing on positive behaviors

work so well that it makes one feel ridiculous that one didn't figure it

out earlier. We did notice it worked a lot faster with our non-OCD child

than our OCDer though.

Now as soon as someone gets a negative consequence they are offering to do

yard work, wash cars, cook, etc. to get back computer time. Unfortunately

for me no one wants to do the laundry yet (my chore). Aloha, Kathy (h)

kathyh@...

At 06:45 PM 4/18/99 -0700, you wrote:

>From: Roman <ChrisRoman@...>

>

>Yes, I will be at OCSDA also on Saturday only (driving up and back from San

>Diego) and would like to get together.

>

>San Diego Chris

>

>P.S. Implemented the poker chip trading idea and you ought to see my house!

>Kids asking if they could fold the laundry for me, sweep the back deck, and

>pointing out how they didn't yell and worked things out between them!!

>Don't know if it'll last, but the positive attitude is refreshing around

>here! Most importantly, they seem to feel genuinely good about getting

>strokes for good behavior and keep asking me if I'm proud of them.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

You are right; it is getting confusing with so many

people.

mary from Louisiana

" W. Birk " wrote:

> From: " W. Birk " <wb4@...>

>

> I am starting to get confused with so many people!

>

> Is it possible for us to add something to our names that help

> identify who we are? (like Aloha, Kathy does).

>

> Other than Kathy, Jill, and myself, who else is going to the

> OCSDA conference??? Perhaps we could get together at some time??

>

> take care all, wendy, in canada

>

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[Guest guest]

I forgot to add that I thought that the geneticist should have gone back to

medical school to come up with those definitions....and that my mother and I

had a good laugh. :-)

Sorry if I led anyone to believe that I believed him...oops!!!

What's in a name?

>From: " Karin Redston " <kitties@...>

>

>When I was growing up in the sixties, I was told by a geneticist down in

Seattle that the difference between dwarf and midget was size and

proportions. Midgets were 3'10 " and under and evenly proportioned while

dwarves were around 4 feet and generally had unevenly proportioned

bodies....arms longer, legs shorter etc.

>I decided in high school during the age of political correctness to go with

short statured as opposed to " one of them little people. "

>In any event, I don't as much mind what people call me as long as the tonal

inflection is genuine.

>I have to agree with many on the listserve that midget is usually not meant

in a nice manner.

>But, it was nice reading all of the different points of view from a lot

more people lately.

>

>Karin

>

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[Guest guest]

We have started a great discussion.

I hope the other 122+ people on the e-mail also give their opinion.

This is an extremely important topic that will help ALL of us.

Dick Thom

PS - Dick, was your $.02 US or CDN currency?

It was actually CDN so I guess it was only my $.0164 worth.

[Guest guest]

I think it is difficult, if not impossible, to encompass everything that we do

in " Drainage " therapy into a single name that is going to be 100% complete, and

also be easily understandable to the lay person. The term " Homeopathy " is a

succint description of a modality based on the principle of like treats like,

but it definitly needs explaining to a lay person.

The term for what we practice and study should be distinct and free of the

negative conotations and misunderstandings that have been attatched by some to

" Drainage " .

I submit dropping all the descriptors and simply calling what we do:

" Biotherapeutics "

..ie. we treat the biology of the body.

It can then be explained to the patient, ie. we treat the whole body, restoring

balance and natural functioning to your organ systems. This is achieved through

optimizing eliminations on a cellular level and opening the pathways of

elimination from your body ...

Just wanted to put in my bit. (Dick, was your $.02 US or CDN currency?)

Keivan Jinnah, ND,LAc

Portland, OR

[Guest guest]

Name Suggestions:

BioVitality Therapy

Vital Life Force Harmonization

BioLife Therapy

Vital Force Therapy

BioHarmony

Vitality Homeopathy

One question I have been pondering is what is the intention behind the name? Is it focused on marketing, and/or education/communication with patients? I tend to lean toward the marketing aspect of it, b/c adequate communication about what we are actually attempting with these therapies requires a lengthy discussion with the patient.

I’ll ponder it more after exams.

Al Thieme

Chinese Medicine, Nutrition, Homeopathy

MSEE

On 11/29/04 11:32 PM, " Drdwthom@... " <Drdwthom@...> wrote:

We have started a great discussion.

I hope the other 122+ people on the e-mail also give their opinion.

This is an extremely important topic that will help ALL of us.

Dick Thom

PS - Dick, was your $.02 US or CDN currency?

It was actually CDN so I guess it was only my $.0164 worth.

[Guest guest]

Dear group-

I'd like to also encompass the idea that an organism is dynamic. I

think of the ultimate goal as achieving a state of flexible and

adaptable homeobalance rather than a homeostasis, which implies that

once you reach a state, you stay there, or that the goal is stasis.

We are ever-changing creatures, and even when a person has truly

achieved a state of optimum health, things will continue to change as

his/her life evolves and changes.

My other thought is that the term " drainage " pertains to elimination-

people start visualizing sewer pipes when they think of drains. While

elimination is an essential element, the homeobalance and vitality are

the greater goal. I'll keep cogitating names.

Hindman

Tigard, OR

cancer, chronic disease, anyone

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:08:59 -0800, Al Thieme <al@...> wrote:

> Name Suggestions:

> BioVitality Therapy

>

> Vital Life Force Harmonization

>

> BioLife Therapy

>

> Vital Force Therapy

>

> BioHarmony

>

> Vitality Homeopathy

>

> One question I have been pondering is what is the intention behind the name?

> Is it focused on marketing, and/or education/communication with patients? I

> tend to lean toward the marketing aspect of it, b/c adequate communication

> about what we are actually attempting with these therapies requires a

> lengthy discussion with the patient.

> I'll ponder it more after exams.

> Al Thieme

> Chinese Medicine, Nutrition, Homeopathy

> MSEE

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On 11/29/04 11:32 PM, " Drdwthom@... " <Drdwthom@...> wrote:

>

>

>

>

> We have started a great discussion.

> I hope the other 122+ people on the e-mail also give their opinion.

> This is an extremely important topic that will help ALL of us.

>

> Dick Thom

>

> PS - Dick, was your $.02 US or CDN currency?

>

> It was actually CDN so I guess it was only my $.0164 worth.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe even better than " Biotherapeutics " could be " Biotherapy " . Even simpler.

One thing I wanted to mention in this discussion is that if I'm not mistaken the

term " Biotherapeutic Drainage " is a registered trademark of Seroyal, another

reason to look for a distinct name for the medicine we practice (it would be

nice if we could just call it Naturopathy, which is what it is, but I think we

would have a battle with the naturopaths that practice green allopathy, I don't

think they're ready to give the term up yet.)

Keivan Jinnah ND,LAc

[Guest guest]

I like that biotherapy - it's simple, feels more " to the point " -

doesn't get lost in the " new agey " vocabulary.

Tamara

drkjinnah@... wrote:

>Maybe even better than " Biotherapeutics " could be " Biotherapy " . Even simpler.

>

>One thing I wanted to mention in this discussion is that if I'm not mistaken

the term " Biotherapeutic Drainage " is a registered trademark of Seroyal, another

reason to look for a distinct name for the medicine we practice (it would be

nice if we could just call it Naturopathy, which is what it is, but I think we

would have a battle with the naturopaths that practice green allopathy, I don't

think they're ready to give the term up yet.)

>

>Keivan Jinnah ND,LAc

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I agree with , in that I like the notion of balance because it does

not imply a static state. Homeobalance is good and it has meaning to us but

it seems that as soon as the prefix " homeo- " sneaks into the picture, we're

back to people saying " huh? What's homeobalance? " Whereas people get the

notion of balance - they understand it and can apply it in most any

situation be it walking, physiology, or kids on a teeter totter at the

playground.

And yes, the word drainage brings up the notion of plumbers and pipes -- I

don't know, for me it works. Our GI is one big long pipe/drain - except that

it does a lot more than drain. Humans (and other animals) are amazingly

intricate and all that but when we study physiology and chemistry I often

think about electrical circuits, pipes etc. And perhaps the most basic

explanation of what we are doing is draining all the toxins out of the ECM.

Of course, there is the energetic aspect as well.

If our goal is to convey what we do succintly and clearly so that the

general public and health care community can understand what we mean I think

we have to Keep It Simple Stupid (as Andy Belanger would say). I suggest

guarding against anything too froo-froo or " new-age " . Consider the term

" Drainage Therapy " vs. " Biotherapuetic Drainage " as an example of K.I.S.S.

Just some thoughts.

Kathy Sweeney

Juneau, AK

Family Practice

Many people (ND's) have never heard of the term. Many NDs think it is a

" new " therapy. All of these are wrong. Most of the general public and the

health care community have no idea what it is

>From: Hindman <kjhindman@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: what's in a name?

>Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:33:03 -0800

>

>

>Dear group-

>

>I'd like to also encompass the idea that an organism is dynamic. I

>think of the ultimate goal as achieving a state of flexible and

>adaptable homeobalance rather than a homeostasis, which implies that

>once you reach a state, you stay there, or that the goal is stasis.

>We are ever-changing creatures, and even when a person has truly

>achieved a state of optimum health, things will continue to change as

>his/her life evolves and changes.

>

>My other thought is that the term " drainage " pertains to elimination-

>people start visualizing sewer pipes when they think of drains. While

>elimination is an essential element, the homeobalance and vitality are

>the greater goal. I'll keep cogitating names.

>

> Hindman

>Tigard, OR

>cancer, chronic disease, anyone

>

>

>

>

>On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 11:08:59 -0800, Al Thieme <al@...> wrote:

> > Name Suggestions:

> > BioVitality Therapy

> >

> > Vital Life Force Harmonization

> >

> > BioLife Therapy

> >

> > Vital Force Therapy

> >

> > BioHarmony

> >

> > Vitality Homeopathy

> >

> > One question I have been pondering is what is the intention behind the

>name?

> > Is it focused on marketing, and/or education/communication with

>patients? I

> > tend to lean toward the marketing aspect of it, b/c adequate

>communication

> > about what we are actually attempting with these therapies requires a

> > lengthy discussion with the patient.

> > I'll ponder it more after exams.

> > Al Thieme

> > Chinese Medicine, Nutrition, Homeopathy

> > MSEE

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On 11/29/04 11:32 PM, " Drdwthom@... " <Drdwthom@...> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > We have started a great discussion.

> > I hope the other 122+ people on the e-mail also give their opinion.

> > This is an extremely important topic that will help ALL of us.

> >

> > Dick Thom

> >

> > PS - Dick, was your $.02 US or CDN currency?

> >

> > It was actually CDN so I guess it was only my $.0164 worth.

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

The term Biotherapy does already exist (I have not heard it as much in this country but it is much more prevalent in France). In fact, Dr. Tetau, one of the pioneers of Gemmotherapy, is the chairman of the "Medical Biotherapy Asscoiation" in France. Biotherapy encompasses gemmo, oligo, organo and homeopathy, so in that way embraces our tools. I think if we opt for that name, we need to stay true to the definition as it is practiced in Europe for the sake of unity. When you do a search for "Biotherapy" in the US it brings up a variety of different sites, one using insects to treat and study humans, others that are vague alternative medicine sites etc. When I do a search on the French web, it clearly pulls up the sites that encompass what we think about when we use this term.

So, I like the idea of using that term as well and staying true to the French definition of it for the sake of unification (and I am not just saying this because I am French!)

Allie Tanzer NDSeaside, OR

[Guest guest]

Dear Group -

The thing I like about this group, and how we use 'drainage' is that

it is about healing. People really heal - on many levels. I have

been thinking about what we are actually working with to stimulate

healing in patients. It seems like most of the therapies we use

rely on the vital force to recognize what is happening in the body

and either 'clean up the mess it was avoiding', or bring balance to

organ systems to restore a functioning network in the body. So I

propose a name like -

Vital energy therapy or Inner essence therapy or Vital Radiance

therapy (because we support the vital force to function and patients

radiate.

I would rather have patients ask what vital energy is and have the

chance to explain how they have the potential to heal themselves

within. As physicians, we are working to strenghthen that energy

within them. We are either shining a light on what needs to be

cleaned up (then talk about drains - drainage - and that wonderful-

to-say word, emunctory), and/or we are helping an organ system to

function better or more effectively with the body. I believe it is

so important to let patients know we are supporting what is inside

of them to bring balance and healing to their body.

Well - There is my $5.00 worth.

Hodsdon ND

Portland, Oregon

[Guest guest]

Bio-Regulative Therapy. That's good. It's easy to understand.

Lemley, ND

Bozeman, MT

women's health, endocrinology, general practice

[Guest guest]

Dear Group,

I'm wondering if someone would be willing to go back over the emails that have

been submitted for renaming the practice of drainage and make a list of the

suggestions that have been made. (maybe someone is already keeping a list?)We

can then send the list around, continue to add more as they come in, and at some

point narrow it down and ultimately choose one, or not, if we decide to stay

with drainage.

One more suggestion: Bio-regulative therapy

Keivan Jinnah, ND,LAc

Portland OR

[Guest guest]

I am keeping tract of all the suggestions

Dick Thom

Beaverton, OR

Dear Group,

I'm wondering if someone would be willing to go back over the emails that have been submitted for renaming the practice of drainage and make a list of the suggestions that have been made. (maybe someone is already keeping a list?)We can then send the list around, continue to add more as they come in, and at some point narrow it down and ultimately choose one, or not, if we decide to stay with drainage. 

One more suggestion:   Bio-regulative therapy

Keivan Jinnah, ND,LAc

Portland OR

[Guest guest]

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Hope all is well out there in the world of medicine.

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her address is:

anne@...

thank you thank you,

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[Guest guest]

I may have missed this but how do we contact

Re: what's in a name?

Hello everyone,

I have the cookbooks in my office and they have been selling like crazy. I sell them to docs and professionals for $16.00 and the retail price is $22.95, so you can make a little money on them as well. Let me know if anyone wants to look one over and I will mail one to you.

We also are doing bulk discounts of buy 12 and get the 13th free.

Hope all is well out there in the world of medicine.

Jessie Black, N.D.

[Guest guest]

Hi , I am very interested in getting your cookbook, and potentially(probably) selling them here. I am in Ontario, how would you like to coordinate payment? Do you take visa, or would you prefer a moneyorder?

I'm looking very forward to seeing it!

Teri Jaklin ND

Waterdown Clinic of

Naturopathic Medicine

250 Dundas St E

Waterdown, ON

L0R 2H4

Phone: 905-690-9151

-----Original Message-----From: jblacknd@... [mailto:jblacknd@...]Sent: December 10, 2004 5:35 PM Subject: Re: what's in a name?

Hello everyone,

I have the cookbooks in my office and they have been selling like crazy. I sell them to docs and professionals for $16.00 and the retail price is $22.95, so you can make a little money on them as well. Let me know if anyone wants to look one over and I will mail one to you.

We also are doing bulk discounts of buy 12 and get the 13th free.

Hope all is well out there in the world of medicine.

Jessie Black, N.D.

[Guest guest]

" a " wrote:

> My personal opinions:

> not happy with CFS: demeaning, allows for fixation with 'fatigue'

> among other stuff I'm too ill to elaborate on for the moment.

>

> CFIDS: not that much different from above, is it?

>

> ME: probably the best for now, in my view. May not be totally

> accurate but we still don't know what this really is. At least it

> doesn't allow for " I have chronic fatigue too " kinda comments and

> allows for patients to be taken more seriously (I've often

experienced

> a major difference in how others, including doctors, perceive my

> illness, according to the terms I used).

>

> Cheney Syndrome or something of the type: I also agree with

something

> like that.

>

> But it does seem to be awfully urgent to get the naming issue

> straightened out. What's in a name? Everything! (perhaps not

> everything, but a whole lot, that's for sure)

>

> When will there be a consensus?

>

> What can we do as individuals?

>

> What are your opinions?

>

> a

Funny you should ask.

Yes, we don't know for absolute certain that " Ramsay described ME "

and CFS are the same thing. When CFS blazed through Incline

Village, it didn't restrict itself to one main area or facility like

Royal Free - this went through Truckee HS, North Tahoe High school,

surrounding areas, towns, even way out to isolated homes in the

desert. Not only that, but we had MORE symptoms that Ramsay ME,

such as the Crimson Crescents and " loss of fingerprints " . Add the

fact that a number of people with " Yuppie Flu " died, and it looks

like CFS is far more pathogenic than Royal Free ME.

The authors of the Canadian Guidelines get around this by

studying " Original CFS " and " ME " as a combined entity of concurrent

but not totally identical complaints: " ME/CFS " .

Their view allows for a refined view of " CFS " which disallows the

fatigue construct and validates the experience of CFSers with 'The

real deal " without squashing anyone by saying " CFS is fatigue "

or " CFS is not a syndrome " .

ICD 10 G.93.3 " ME/CFS " as defined by the Candadian Guidelines

creates a refining criteria that lifts CFSers out of the " CFS

wastebasket " even without waiting for a definitive marker.

When the etiology is well established, " ME/CFS " can then either

regarded as ME, or whatever the illness process is can be given a

name that is etiology based, but at least " ME/CFS " provides an

instant basis for refinement of an extremely muddled situation.

All we have to do is support the authors of the Canadian Guidelines

and veryify that their description of the illness truly represent

our experience - and leave the rest to them.

They've done one heck of a job so far - and deserve support.

-

[Guest guest]

Marcus: the automatic connection for me is " Potter's

Syndrome " . Ok, that is green eyes, glasses, and the

inability to tolerate Draco.... Can you tell I'm a

Harry Potter fan?

Just picture Harry with PA on a broomstick...

Oh, and how well could you flick YOUR wand if you were

having issues with your hand...

Thanks for the grin!!

CMPete

[Editor's Note: Me, too! I immediately thought of Harry Potter and decided that

psoriatic arthritis would get taken a lot more seriously than Potter's Syndrome

- at least by the crowd I hang with. Kathy F.]

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What's in a name?

Posted by: " marcusjweeks " marcusweeks@...

marcusjweeks

Date: Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:34 am ((PST))

It has just struck me, reading through some of the

group's recent correspondence, that one

way to explain our complicated disease to the

uninitiated would be to think of a better name

for it than " Psoriatic Arthritis " (or worse still,

" psoriatic arthropathy " ). After all, arthritis

is only

one of the many and varied symptoms we suffer from,

and it sort of gives the wrong

impression, doesn't it? Alzheimer's, Crohn's and

others are named after doctors who realised

their uniqueness, and have become almost household

names -- and poor old PA remains a

" Cinderella " disease: misunderstood, neglected and

often played down.

Here in the UK, PA had a bit of a boost in the 1980s

when it was the subject of Dennis

Potter's TV series " The Singing Detective " (although

the recent film of the same story seems

to have disappeared without a trace). Perhaps we could

" adopt " Potter (he's one of my

personal heroes!) and push for the bundle of symptoms

now known as PA to be henceforth

known as " Potter's Syndrome " -- preferably to the

blare of trumpets and a huge splurge in

national newspapers and TV!

Who knows, with a bit of intelligent publicity it

might help raise the profile enough to counter

the ignorance shown by the general public and indeed

some doctors and health insurance

organisations.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Best wishes to all

Marcus

-------------------

CMPete

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or the intense desire to go out and do some raku

firing-

clay pots

[Editor's Note: ...or the irresistible urge to practice one's short game in

golf known as Putter's Syndrome...or the urge to polish metal known as Pewter's

Syndrome... Kathy F.]

--- CM <cmquilts@...> wrote:

> Marcus: the automatic connection for me is " Potter's

> Syndrome " . Ok, that is green eyes, glasses, and the

> inability to tolerate Draco.... Can you tell I'm a

> Harry Potter fan?

>

> Just picture Harry with PA on a broomstick...

> Oh, and how well could you flick YOUR wand if you

> were

> having issues with your hand...

>

>

> Thanks for the grin!!

>

> CMPete

>

> [Editor's Note: Me, too! I immediately thought of

> Harry Potter and decided that psoriatic arthritis

> would get taken a lot more seriously than Potter's

> Syndrome - at least by the crowd I hang with. Kathy

> F.]

>

>

>

> --------------------

> What's in a name?

> Posted by: " marcusjweeks " marcusweeks@...

> marcusjweeks

> Date: Wed Feb 7, 2007 6:34 am ((PST))

>

> It has just struck me, reading through some of the

> group's recent correspondence, that one

> way to explain our complicated disease to the

> uninitiated would be to think of a better name

> for it than " Psoriatic Arthritis " (or worse still,

> " psoriatic arthropathy " ). After all, arthritis

> is only

> one of the many and varied symptoms we suffer from,

> and it sort of gives the wrong

> impression, doesn't it? Alzheimer's, Crohn's and

> others are named after doctors who realised

> their uniqueness, and have become almost household

> names -- and poor old PA remains a

> " Cinderella " disease: misunderstood, neglected and

> often played down.

> Here in the UK, PA had a bit of a boost in the 1980s

> when it was the subject of Dennis

> Potter's TV series " The Singing Detective " (although

> the recent film of the same story seems

> to have disappeared without a trace). Perhaps we

> could

> " adopt " Potter (he's one of my

> personal heroes!) and push for the bundle of

> symptoms

> now known as PA to be henceforth

> known as " Potter's Syndrome " -- preferably to the

> blare of trumpets and a huge splurge in

> national newspapers and TV!

> Who knows, with a bit of intelligent publicity it

> might help raise the profile enough to counter

> the ignorance shown by the general public and indeed

> some doctors and health insurance

> organisations.

> Any thoughts, anyone?

>

> Best wishes to all

>

> Marcus

> -------------------

>

> CMPete

> Quilts With Poodle

>

> '.....now times are rough and I've got too much

> STUFF!!'

> J.D. Buffett

>

> I have a blog now!! And there is ACTUALLY stuff on

> it!

> http://cmpetequiltspoodle.blogspot.com/

>

>

>

>

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