Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Bertie, Pain in a tooth does not mean root canal. I had a temporary crown for 2 weeks while waiting or the permanent crown. During this time, I was in constant pain if I did not take 2 advils at a time. Immediately after getting the permantent crown installed (with temporary cement) the pain stopped. Now it only hurts when eating ice cream or if it istouched with something else cold. My dentist told me that it took a tooth of hers almost a year to " calm down " after getting a crown. So I will wait and see if it improves before I consider a root canal. I also had pain from another tooth before the crown. The tooth was cracked. The crown was enough to end the pain. Also, I once had a lot of pain because my GUMS were infected. I had that tooth removed because of very deep pockets, but there was nothing wrong with the tooth, only that it was loose, and the infection could go from the gums to the bone. It was the furthest most rear tooth, so no great loss. Hope you feel better soon. Dental Issues > Hi everyone. So, I have a big old toothache and I think that I > probably have a big old cavity or something. If/ when I go to the > dentist, what should I do? I know I shouldn't have an ordinary root > canal, but there is one where they fill it with some other stuff and I > guess that is supposed to be better. It is my understanding that if my > tooth hurts, the nerve is involved. Correct? So, nerve involvement > causes root canal or extraction, I am correct? Anyhow, hoping for some > guidance. Bertie > > > > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A > HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> > Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 why not google endontology and Tennessee to see what research seems to suggest as alternatives to root canals... like a nerve patch suggestions are that it will work for around 80% of cases...something to think about Dental Issues > Hi everyone. So, I have a big old toothache and I think that I > probably have a big old cavity or something. If/ when I go to the > dentist, what should I do? I know I shouldn't have an ordinary root > canal, but there is one where they fill it with some other stuff and I > guess that is supposed to be better. It is my understanding that if my > tooth hurts, the nerve is involved. Correct? So, nerve involvement > causes root canal or extraction, I am correct? Anyhow, hoping for some > guidance. Bertie > > > > > > <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " > " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT > FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> > <UL> > <LI><B><A > HREF= " / " >NATIVE > NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> > <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message > archive with Onibasu</LI> > </UL></FONT> > <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A > HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> > Idol > <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer > Wanita Sears > </FONT></PRE> > </BODY> > </HTML> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2005 Report Share Posted May 24, 2005 On Fri, May 20, 2005 at 06:30:22PM -0000, Bertie <bjvarmuzek@...> wrote: > Hi everyone. So, I have a big old toothache and I think that I > probably have a big old cavity or something. If/ when I go to the > dentist, what should I do? I know I shouldn't have an ordinary root > canal, but there is one where they fill it with some other stuff and I > guess that is supposed to be better. It is my understanding that if my > tooth hurts, the nerve is involved. Correct? So, nerve involvement > causes root canal or extraction, I am correct? Anyhow, hoping for some > guidance. Bertie See: Do I Really Need a Root Canal? by Dr. Nara http://www.mizar5.com/root.htm Dr. Nara lists several very specific tests to do to determine if you really need one done. He says many root canals are done when they did not need to be done. I've read that if you do need to get a root canal and you are in good health, your immune system is probably healthly enough to handle it. (Tens of millions of root canals are done in the US every year.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 KerryAnn wrote: >Anyone have a suggestion about the abcess? I'm probably going to start CS >and DMSO on that tonight. I'm also taking echincea and rinsing with >hydrogen peroxide, and using oil of oregano topically on it 2x/day. I >assume he's going to want to treat it with antibiotics, so I'd like to avoid >that if possible. > > > I've got an abcess that I've been whittling away on for a few months now. The progress is slow, but it is going away. What's been working for me is to soak a piece of cotton with bentonite clay and put it over the abcess at bedtime and leave it on overnight. Yesterday, someone suggested cayenne to increase bloodflow to the site, so I'm going to add a little to the mix to see if that improves it. HTH! --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2006 Report Share Posted January 26, 2006 I write from experience of lots of frustrating periodontal disease in spite of excellent dental hygiene and good nutrition: Yes, all of the things mentioned (cayenne, DMSO, oregano oil, etc.) will help to alleviate the discomfort and will aid in the healing process through increased bloodflow, but in order for healing to take place that bloodflow has to be carrying the right nutrients to the problem. After much reading with a view to finding a common denominator between the abcess and all my body's other symptoms, I began to suspect that the abcess was my body's way of telling me that I had one or more mineral deficiencies. I started taking 1000 mg of MSM daily to provide sulfur and 4 mg daily of copper. Within three days the abcess began to shrink away. Yes, your body responds that quickly to the right nutrition! After one month the abcess was gone, and has not returned. This was accompllished with my dentist's prescription for antibiotics lying on my desk unfilled, and without the periodontal surgery he said was an absolute must. NOTE: Do not exceed 4 mg of copper a day, because copper is only a trace mineral and becomes deadly in excessive amounts. After one month, back off to 2 mg of copper daily - no more! Also, long after the abcess cleared up, I realized that some skin problems I had were also gone, including chronic athlete's foot and an itchy scalp. Additionally, I have found that making a solution of 1/4 teaspoon of Dead Sea mineral salts in a quart of water for rinsing the mouth throughout the day is very soothing, healing, and restorative to the gums and teeth, and will actually remineralize teeth, even cavities! Dead Sea mineral salt does not contain the full spectrum of 80 minerals and trace minerals found in ordinary sea salt. Instead, it provides lots of calcium, magnesium, sulfur, and potassium. I not only rinse with this solution a dozen or more times a day, I drink the stuff (about a quart a day) because I've found it helps reduce the incidence of rapid heartbeat (tachycardia) that I've had since childhood. I also brush my teeth with it and use it in my water pik at night. I have no more dental problems. In fact, even 'soft spots' and tiny cavities have remineralized, much to my dentist's frustration, I'm sure!. Best wishes on your journey towards dental health! Suzanne Noakes <snoakes@...> wrote: KerryAnn wrote: >Anyone have a suggestion about the abcess? I'm probably going to start CS >and DMSO on that tonight. I'm also taking echincea and rinsing with >hydrogen peroxide, and using oil of oregano topically on it 2x/day. I >assume he's going to want to treat it with antibiotics, so I'd like to avoid >that if possible. > > > I've got an abcess that I've been whittling away on for a few months now. The progress is slow, but it is going away. What's been working for me is to soak a piece of cotton with bentonite clay and put it over the abcess at bedtime and leave it on overnight. Yesterday, someone suggested cayenne to increase bloodflow to the site, so I'm going to add a little to the mix to see if that improves it. HTH! --s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Absolutely agree with you Patty. The SAME propaganda teams claim that breast implants are 'safe' ... I fully believe that there is a subset of people who will become very ill from their amalgams ... and the same for women with breast implants. Unfortuantely, they are so busy denying the connections ... they miss the facts. www.BreastImplantAwareness.org > > I heard a blurb on the news yesterday that some government agency has declared that there is NO EVIDENCE that mercury amalgam fillings are damaging to the health of people. I had to snort. Sorry. I don't usually do gross things like that. But I couldn't help myself. I wish I wasn't so skeptical, but once you get them figured out, it is easy to see what they are doing. They are so deceptive. > > Apparently there is some review still scheduled for September. > http://www.fda.gov/oc/advisory/accalendar/2006/cdrh12518dd09060706.ht ml > > Can I just give my two cents on this one? > > Because there has been so much discussion of the amalgam issue on the internet and the rumblings of how important it is to avoid mercury fillings in children, pregnant women, and how mercury can contribute to chronic degenerative disease, the FDA has to address this. They can't just ignore it. > > By addressing it, they will look like they are doing their job. > > However, my opinion is that they have already decided the outcome, even before they review the scientific evidence. The newscast yesterday already indicated that. They will find NO EVIDENCE that mercury amalgams are damaging. > > You see, they have to. America can't afford to find any problem with them. It would be legally and financially devastating for the government and the ADA to find out that after all these years of putting this toxic substance into people's bodies, they have been poisoning them and making them sick. > > So, they will have to find them safe. > > I hope I am wrong, but I think they've already shown their colors. They don't care about protecting the health of America. They care about the health of our economy more. > Sorry. > You watch. > > http://cnri.edu/drwilson/dentalinfo/mercury-still-injurious- 2004.htm > > Patty > > > --------------------------------- > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2007 Report Share Posted January 6, 2007 I don't know anything about the condition you described and it didn't apply to my son but he had very delayed dental eruption and extremely delayed loss of baby teeth. This is a sign of eosophilia (chronic high EOS). Things suddenly clicked into place healthwise for him this year though and he lost almost all of his baby teeth in a period of a few months. (He's now 15.) Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Thanks Both of the girls were 13 months old before they cut any teeth. Googahly@... wrote: I don't know anything about the condition you described and it didn't apply to my son but he had very delayed dental eruption and extremely delayed loss of baby teeth. This is a sign of eosophilia (chronic high EOS). Things suddenly clicked into place healthwise for him this year though and he lost almost all of his baby teeth in a period of a few months. (He's now 15.) Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 My bio son who does not have autism does not have some of his teeth and never will because they are not there. I was told that it was genetic. I should add that my aunt is missing 3 teeth as well. She has a bridge and we are getting implants for when he is old enough. Sheri Donna s <donnajohns@...> wrote: Has anyone come across strange dental problems with their children that have ? My 7 year old has been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her teeth) then she already has caps on some of her teeth and now we have discovered that she has no perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they come out she will be toothless in those spots. Thanks in advance!! s We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 My 8 year old son had dental work this past year. His dentist said he had " Weak enamel " and got fillings on about all of his molars because of this- already a few cavities. She said it was nothing we did/din't do with his hygenie but that it was most likely cause from having a high fever as an infant. Thought that was interesting! He was very sick with Roseola at about 8 months old. (That ol' HHV-6... still working on that!) - in Mobile, AL Dental issues Has anyone come across strange dental problems with their children that have ? My 7 year old has been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her teeth) then she already has caps on some of her teeth and now we have discovered that she has no perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they come out she will be toothless in those spots. Thanks in advance!! s We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 Hi - I've heard of this discussion on another list - the GFCFNN list - who is for people who are GFCF and following Weston Price's theory for healthy eating. He was a dentist and studied the teeth, diets and facial structures of various cultures... And teeth have been a topic lately, including enamel issues. I didn't follow that thread but if you joined that group (I think we talked about it once?), you could review those discussions. There is bound to be something of value in them. Basically, though, I do believe a lot of our dental problems reflect the health of our bodies. Since our kids have some pretty significant metabolic issues associated w/their immune issues, we have no reason to think teeth wouldn't be affected. I thought permanent teeth roots developed in utero? And there is lots of suspicion that this problem/process begins in utero as well. Seems like Celiac's have some problems w/teeth, too, but again I didn't follow some of those discussions. (I usually read every word on this list, though...lol!) I hope you find a solution for the lack of enamel. I believe people on the other list had some experience w/resolving that situation, and I really recommend you talk to them. --- Donna s <donnajohns@...> wrote: > Has anyone come across strange dental problems with > their children that have ? My 7 year old has > been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her > teeth) then she already has caps on some of her > teeth and now we have discovered that she has no > perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they > come out she will be toothless in those spots. > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > s > > We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are > sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have > weird names, and all are different colors, but they > all have to live in the same box. > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2007 Report Share Posted January 7, 2007 My mom has the same problem and had false teeth before she was 24 and i don't want that for , but I guess you can't change genetics. Thanks Sheri <eszbi5@...> wrote: My bio son who does not have autism does not have some of his teeth and never will because they are not there. I was told that it was genetic. I should add that my aunt is missing 3 teeth as well. She has a bridge and we are getting implants for when he is old enough. Sheri Donna s <donnajohns@...> wrote: Has anyone come across strange dental problems with their children that have ? My 7 year old has been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her teeth) then she already has caps on some of her teeth and now we have discovered that she has no perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they come out she will be toothless in those spots. Thanks in advance!! s We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 hi all, my 8yr old is having a problem with a couple of teeth that are coming in right in front on baby teeth, but they don't hurt. My 15 yr old already has her wisdom teeth completely in and no problems. Caroline Milligan Re: Dental issues My mom has the same problem and had false teeth before she was 24 and i don't want that for , but I guess you can't change genetics. Thanks Sheri <eszbi5@...> wrote: My bio son who does not have autism does not have some of his teeth and never will because they are not there. I was told that it was genetic. I should add that my aunt is missing 3 teeth as well. She has a bridge and we are getting implants for when he is old enough. Sheri Donna s <donnajohns@...> wrote: Has anyone come across strange dental problems with their children that have ? My 7 year old has been dx with Osteo imprefecta (no enamel on her teeth) then she already has caps on some of her teeth and now we have discovered that she has no perm teeth roots under these caps. So when they come out she will be toothless in those spots. Thanks in advance!! s We could learn a lot from crayons... Some are sharp, some are pretty and some are dull. Some have weird names, and all are different colors, but they all have to live in the same box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2009 Report Share Posted April 8, 2009 Hey Group. . .FYI/my 2 cents only. . . I am reading your posts regarding dental issues. I have had to be pre-medicated prior to dental work over 15 years, including filings; due to my numerous Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. In the past year, my teeth have been crumbling out of my mouth, leaving many fractured teeth, etc. For over 3 years . . .not only my Dentist, but 4 Ortho Surgeons would not sit me in their dental chair for any dental procedure other than consultation. They all felt that I had to be 'off' Plavix for 10 - 14 days preceding dental work. Therefore, my only option was the Dental Clinic in the 1 teaching hospital in the area, should I have began to bleed out, it could be controlled. Almost 2 years ago, I allowed the Senior Dental Surgeon at the Hospital to oversea the extraction of 3 teeth, 2 of which were Root Canals that should have last FOREVER. Like my morbid mortality given in 2003 per our bug. . .I have again out lived mans'/Drs time. . . heHeHE. . .I AM A SURVIVOR. . .I AIN'T FINISHED YET ! ! ! To-date, I am putting Off going back for more extractions; knowing that eventually it will have to be done prior to an abscess/infection etc. I have taken relatively good care of my teeth since childhood and have been told that my OsteoArthritis/OsteoNecrosis is the reason for my dental problems. I have read Brother & Sister Survivors post regarding Orthopedic Pain Issues after diagnosis. . .know that your teeth are also included. . .part of my jawbone was removed during the extraction of the 2 teeth. I realize that I have babbled on, and in doing so; I hope that I have given information to younger brother & sister survivors . . . I am not a Doctor, never portrayed one on TV; nor do I aspire to be a Physician in another life. . .This is FYI/my 2 cents only! Should you have any questions, do not hesitate to email me personally. I am online 1X weekly, but I will respond. I also would like to say 'Sowwy' to those of you that I was late responding too. Take care, I have ALL in my prayers. " K " " I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 9, 2009 Report Share Posted April 9, 2009 kttweety, Good to hear you are not finished yet! I'm also glad you posted when you did, I have a dentist appt. today for a tooth that had a root canal a few yrs. ago and should have lasted forever in my opinion. What I found really interesting was you talking about your osteo issues relating to your teeth. I never thought there could be a related problem. I have osteo problems too with necrosis so I will have to discuss that with my dentist & Onc. I would really like to keep my teeth:) Thanks > > > Hey Group. . .FYI/my 2 cents only. . . > I am reading your posts regarding dental issues. I have had to be pre-medicated prior to dental work over 15 years, including filings; due to my numerous Chronic Orthopedic Diseases. In the past year, my teeth have been crumbling out of my mouth, leaving many fractured teeth, etc. > For over 3 years . . .not only my Dentist, but 4 Ortho Surgeons would not sit me in their dental chair for any dental procedure other than consultation. They all felt that I had to be 'off' Plavix for 10 - 14 days preceding dental work. Therefore, my only option was the Dental Clinic in the 1 teaching hospital in the area, should I have began to bleed out, it could be controlled. > Almost 2 years ago, I allowed the Senior Dental Surgeon at the Hospital to oversea the extraction of 3 teeth, 2 of which were Root Canals that should have last FOREVER. Like my morbid mortality given in 2003 per our bug. . .I have again out lived mans'/Drs time. . . heHeHE. . .I AM A SURVIVOR. . .I AIN'T FINISHED YET ! ! ! > To-date, I am putting Off going back for more extractions; knowing that eventually it will have to be done prior to an abscess/infection etc. > I have taken relatively good care of my teeth since childhood and have been told that my OsteoArthritis/OsteoNecrosis is the reason for my dental problems. I have read Brother & Sister Survivors post regarding Orthopedic Pain Issues after diagnosis. . .know that your teeth are also included. . .part of my jawbone was removed during the extraction of the 2 teeth. > I realize that I have babbled on, and in doing so; I hope that I have given information to younger brother & sister survivors . . . > I am not a Doctor, never portrayed one on TV; nor do I aspire to be a Physician in another life. . .This is FYI/my 2 cents only! Should you have any questions, do not hesitate to email me personally. I am online 1X weekly, but I will respond. I also would like to say 'Sowwy' to those of you that I was late responding too. > Take care, I have ALL in my prayers. > > > " K " > " I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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