Teeth

[Guest guest]

How did you lose your teeth to the use of a tooth whitener? Just

curious....

? LOL well,

>having lost mine due to poor dental hygiene and the use of a tooth

whitener

>product, I can safely say that a flare up is much worse than having

teeth

>pulled LOL

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LOL OK I can see I need to make a group reply concerning the loss of my teeth

so here goes :-) I used a product called " Plus White " that you can buy off the

store shelf. I had been married to a dentist, and when I got very sick with

the AS he divorced me (the Cad) So Dental hygiene was not on the top of my

list, even though I was working while I still could as a Reg. Dental Asst.

When I was sick for so many years I did not take proper care of my teeth, and

I kept using the toot h whitener product I thought my teeth looked great and

that they were OK. The product got under my gums and ate away the roots and

the bone structure surrounding my teeth. We went to court. The tooth whitener

people argued that the AS caused me to lose my teeth. My lawyer proved that

the as if anything should have calcified my teeth in place not make me lose

em. There were other cases of people losing their teeth from this product and

my lawyer was able to drag all that into court.

In the end we did not go to trial the tooth whitener CO paid 3500. My lawyer

took 2800, SSI took 640 of the money and I got to keep 180. Because of this

product I lost all my teeth nd had to have 4 sugeries on my gums it was not

fun. Shortly after that was when I was put on the AP so this all happened

about 4 or more years ago. The store bought look good and so does my attitude

except when it comes to the tooth whitener products. Love,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 2/5/99 4:25:32 AM Pacific Standard Time, RESA writes:

<< :

which product did you use to whiten your teeth? >>

The name of the product that I used was Plus White, which I bought off the

shelf where it is still for sale to this day. :-)

[Guest guest]

I have been warned also that some of the teeth whiteners take the enamel off

your teeth. Better to have them bonded (I think that is the word) to make

them whiter. I have found too that dentistry is not on the top of my list

of priorities either. I absolutely hate dentists and have not been in 2

years. I was supposed to get a root canal and just didn't do back. Glad I

didn't knowing what I do now but I probably should have had the tooth pulled

out.

Bev

rheumatic Re: teeth

>From: KPSB2@...

>

>LOL OK I can see I need to make a group reply concerning the loss of my

teeth

>so here goes :-) I used a product called " Plus White " that you can buy off

the

>store shelf. I had been married to a dentist, and when I got very sick with

>the AS he divorced me (the Cad) So Dental hygiene was not on the top of my

>list, even though I was working while I still could as a Reg. Dental Asst.

>When I was sick for so many years I did not take proper care of my teeth,

and

>I kept using the toot h whitener product I thought my teeth looked great

and

>that they were OK. The product got under my gums and ate away the roots and

>the bone structure surrounding my teeth. We went to court. The tooth

whitener

>people argued that the AS caused me to lose my teeth. My lawyer proved that

>the as if anything should have calcified my teeth in place not make me lose

>em. There were other cases of people losing their teeth from this product

and

>my lawyer was able to drag all that into court.

> In the end we did not go to trial the tooth whitener CO paid 3500. My

lawyer

>took 2800, SSI took 640 of the money and I got to keep 180. Because of this

>product I lost all my teeth nd had to have 4 sugeries on my gums it was not

>fun. Shortly after that was when I was put on the AP so this all happened

>about 4 or more years ago. The store bought look good and so does my

attitude

>except when it comes to the tooth whitener products. Love,

>

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Yes, my eldest has the same " spots " . Though my dentist never mentioned why

this could be.

>

> Dear listmates,

>

> Our son and one other son whom I believe is & quot;on the

> edge & quot; both have their permanent teeth coming in with opaque white

> spots on them. The dentist describes this condition as & quot;irregular

> calcification & quot; in their permanent teeth. & nbsp; He said that this

> could possibly have been caused by a virus present when those teeth

> were forming. & nbsp; Does anyone else have kids with this

> calcification problem?

>

> I wondered if this could even be connected with any particular virus

> (always grasping at straws trying to figure our son out). & nbsp; Thanks

> in advance for any responses.

>

> Caroline

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[Guest guest]

Dear listmates,

Our son and one other son whom I believe is " on the edge " both have

their permanent teeth coming in with opaque white spots on them. The dentist

describes this condition as " irregular calcification " in their permanent

teeth. He said that this could possibly have been caused by a virus present

when those teeth were forming. Does anyone else have kids with this

calcification problem?

I wondered if this could even be connected with any particular virus (always

grasping at straws trying to figure our son out). Thanks in advance for any

responses.

Caroline

[Guest guest]

Hey Caroline!

I actually have those bright white spots on my two front teeth. Had them

since sometime in early elementary school (I'm 26 now)... and have been very

self-conscious about them. Asked the dentist about them last year and was told

it is calcium-based. And I've read that it could be caused by antibiotic use in

early childhood. Never heard about it being connected to a virus, though.

Interesting!

Possible clues:

My mom said I was the only child (out for 4) who had the Roseola virus.

Plus, I'm the only one who was a HUGE milk drinker. (Finally gave it up a few

months ago and noticed I had been living in a constant state of bloatation!)

My son, nearly 4 years old, had the Roseola virus his first year and was a

milk-o-holic until last fall, after his diagnosis of PDD-NOS and I started

researching everything and found the food-connection.

He hasn't lost any teeth yet, but I'll be sure to watch for the spots when he

gets his permanent ones in!

- ( " Wonderwegian " )

:0)

Reality lies beyond the horizon....

Re:Teeth

Dear listmates,

Our son and one other son whom I believe is " on the edge " both have

their permanent teeth coming in with opaque white spots on them. The dentist

describes this condition as " irregular calcification " in their permanent

teeth. He said that this could possibly have been caused by a virus present

when those teeth were forming. Does anyone else have kids with this

calcification problem?

I wondered if this could even be connected with any particular virus (always

grasping at straws trying to figure our son out). Thanks in advance for any

responses.

Caroline

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

opinion of the Research Institute.

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Shep

Wheat is another thing that causes a lot of mucous in the body.

MJH

In a message dated 6/14/02 6:47:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Shep10@... writes:

> . I had heard that

> milk can be mucous forming so I decided to take it out of the diet within

> three months all of the mucous went away and he hasn't had the persistent

>

[Guest guest]

Yes,

my eldest son has that too. I was told the same thing. In fact my sons 5year

molars had to all be pulled out because they had this problem so bad that

the dentist didn't expect them to last long at all. He has them on his front

two teeth and on some of the bottom teeth as well. The dentist Xrayed and

said some of the other teeth still in the gum, have very small spots as

well. I was very worried about this, but thought that maybe its because we

have fluoridated water. I couldn't understand, how he never was that sick

and yet all of these teeth were supposed to be affected by a high fever

during formation??

I never thought of the component until now, but my son who has the

problems with his teeth is not diagnosed with ASD , but has immune issues

that appear worse than my ASD son. He has many more allergies, and if he

drinks milk he has a persistent cough which becomes pneumonia if he gets a

cold in winter. I discovered that milk was the problem two years ago when we

had to get the teeth pulled out and the appointment kept getting postponed

because he was always too mucousy to go under anesthestic. I had heard that

milk can be mucous forming so I decided to take it out of the diet within

three months all of the mucous went away and he hasn't had the persistent

cough since. He was considered borderline asthmatic but now there is no sign

of anything like that at all. I guess they both have but one has Autism

as an extra side effect.

It is interesting that you mention this, maybe there always has been and

possibly still a virus present in my son that had caused the teeth to

calcify? What a frightening thought.

Cherie.

Re:Teeth

> Dear listmates,

>

> Our son and one other son whom I believe is " on the edge " both have

> their permanent teeth coming in with opaque white spots on them. The

dentist

> describes this condition as " irregular calcification " in their permanent

> teeth. He said that this could possibly have been caused by a virus

present

> when those teeth were forming. Does anyone else have kids with this

> calcification problem?

>

> I wondered if this could even be connected with any particular virus

(always

> grasping at straws trying to figure our son out). Thanks in advance for

any

> responses.

>

> Caroline

>

>

>

> Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

> the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

> opinion of the Research Institute.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son also has the " spotted teeth " problem (he has AS) .. Dentist said it was

from too mutch flouride in his infant vitamins!

Debi F.

Re:Teeth

Dear listmates,

Our son and one other son whom I believe is " on the edge " both have

their permanent teeth coming in with opaque white spots on them. The dentist

describes this condition as " irregular calcification " in their permanent

teeth. He said that this could possibly have been caused by a virus present

when those teeth were forming. Does anyone else have kids with this

calcification problem?

I wondered if this could even be connected with any particular virus (always

grasping at straws trying to figure our son out). Thanks in advance for any

responses.

Caroline

Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with

the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the

opinion of the Research Institute.

[Guest guest]

Thanks,

I didn't know that about wheat.

Cherie.

Re: Re:Teeth

> Shep

> Wheat is another thing that causes a lot of mucous in the body.

> MJH

>

>

> In a message dated 6/14/02 6:47:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> Shep10@... writes:

>

>

> > . I had heard that

> > milk can be mucous forming so I decided to take it out of the diet

within

> > three months all of the mucous went away and he hasn't had the

persistent

> >

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Congratulations Lynn! Grandchildren are wonderful. My third is due any

day. Carolyn Grace is a lovely name. You are very blessed my friend.

I hope the dental school works out. My friend goes there and saves a lot of

money and is very happy with the care. She also had her daughter's braces

put on there. 75.00 is for a full set of x-rays and the exam. I went to my

dentist today and pain 155.00 for the same service, and my dentist cuts me a

break because I have no insurance!

a

> Hi a,

> With having the flu for four weeks and becoming a grandmom again on

> Wednesday, I just today contacted the school of dentistry. I am having a

> little

> trouble getting through but it is Monday. They told me the initial fee is

> 75.00, but now I have to call another number and that is where, I am having

> trouble getting though. I am certainly going to keep trying. I just wanted

> to

> thank you again, we will see what happens.

> Oh by the way my granddaughters name is Carolyn Grace and she has a full

> head of black hair, a real cutie. Now I have four granddaughters and one

> grandson, little .

> Hope work is working out for you and you are not feeling too tired.

> Hugs,

> Lynn

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

I am going to call on Monday. Laurie is upset with me that I have put it

off. But I am having a problem with fatigue but for sure Monday I will make the

appointment to get started with this thing.

Thank you for all your help,

Lynn

P>S> Do you know if they set up a payment plan, just wondering.

a wrote:

> Congratulations Lynn! Grandchildren are wonderful. My third is due any

> day. Carolyn Grace is a lovely name. You are very blessed my friend.

> I hope the dental school works out. My friend goes there and saves a lot of

> money and is very happy with the care. She also had her daughter's braces

> put on there. 75.00 is for a full set of x-rays and the exam. I went to my

> dentist today and pain 155.00 for the same service, and my dentist cuts me a

> break because I have no insurance!

>

> a

>

> > Hi a,

> > With having the flu for four weeks and becoming a grandmom again on

> > Wednesday, I just today contacted the school of dentistry. I am having a

> > little

> > trouble getting through but it is Monday. They told me the initial fee is

> > 75.00, but now I have to call another number and that is where, I am having

> > trouble getting though. I am certainly going to keep trying. I just wanted

> > to

> > thank you again, we will see what happens.

> > Oh by the way my granddaughters name is Carolyn Grace and she has a full

> > head of black hair, a real cutie. Now I have four granddaughters and one

> > grandson, little .

> > Hope work is working out for you and you are not feeling too tired.

> > Hugs,

> > Lynn

>

>

[Guest guest]

a,

Forgive me, I was typing to fast and forgot to congratulate you on your new

grandchild. Three, soon will catch up to me. Isn't this Grandmom thing

fun!!!!!!!

Lynn

a wrote:

> Congratulations Lynn! Grandchildren are wonderful. My third is due any

> day. Carolyn Grace is a lovely name. You are very blessed my friend.

> I hope the dental school works out. My friend goes there and saves a lot of

> money and is very happy with the care. She also had her daughter's braces

> put on there. 75.00 is for a full set of x-rays and the exam. I went to my

> dentist today and pain 155.00 for the same service, and my dentist cuts me a

> break because I have no insurance!

>

> a

>

> > Hi a,

> > With having the flu for four weeks and becoming a grandmom again on

> > Wednesday, I just today contacted the school of dentistry. I am having a

> > little

> > trouble getting through but it is Monday. They told me the initial fee is

> > 75.00, but now I have to call another number and that is where, I am having

> > trouble getting though. I am certainly going to keep trying. I just wanted

> > to

> > thank you again, we will see what happens.

> > Oh by the way my granddaughters name is Carolyn Grace and she has a full

> > head of black hair, a real cutie. Now I have four granddaughters and one

> > grandson, little .

> > Hope work is working out for you and you are not feeling too tired.

> > Hugs,

> > Lynn

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sorry I took off and didn't answer you Lynn. I'm not sure if they will take

payments. Have you made your appointment?

a

> Hi a,

> I am going to call on Monday. Laurie is upset with me that I have put it

> off. But I am having a problem with fatigue but for sure Monday I will make

> the

> appointment to get started with this thing.

> Thank you for all your help,

> Lynn

> P>S> Do you know if they set up a payment plan, just wondering.

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

I did get an appointment for the end of March. The first visit is 75.00 and

that is for everything, including x-rays. I have to call for directions,

because

they told me, they are on Walnut St. and the computer says Locust. I need to

get

the correct address as I am taking the train downtown. I don't like to drive

down

there. I will let you know how it goes. I am anxious to see what they say.

How are you feeling lately? How is the job going? I hope things are good

for

you.

Lynn

a wrote:

> Sorry I took off and didn't answer you Lynn. I'm not sure if they will take

> payments. Have you made your appointment?

> a

>

> > Hi a,

> > I am going to call on Monday. Laurie is upset with me that I have put it

> > off. But I am having a problem with fatigue but for sure Monday I will make

> > the

> > appointment to get started with this thing.

> > Thank you for all your help,

> > Lynn

> > P>S> Do you know if they set up a payment plan, just wondering.

>

>

[Guest guest]

GMCLady, My teeth started to hurt a couple of years ago. They started getting sensitive to hot and cold foods. Three years after implant one tooth cracked and I had to get a crown. Four years after implant another tooth got a crack on the side and I ended up getting a porcelin cap. Then another just last fall had a piece that came off during flossing. My dentist filed it down and coated it. I never had these kind of problems with my teeth before implants. Like all my other health issues, I never linked this to my implants. I thought age was the factor. I am only 32. I was having problems that my mother is having at 50, who is a drinker and smoker. I was also blaming bad genetics. I missed all the warning signs for years. I know you want proof it is your implants. It is not that easy. I had no proof it was mine till they came out, and I saw

improvements. I am only three months post explant so I dont have many just yet, but enough to know for sure it was the implants making me so sick. In my honest opinion, you need to get you implants out ASAP. The sooner you do the sooner you can get started on healing. LGMCLADY98@... wrote: Did anyone have dental problems ? I think on the gallery of pictures I saw a picture of someones teeth, my teeth hurt don't know if its related hair is breaking off too not falling out breaking also I get shocks of pains in hands and feet...weird ??

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Lots of dental problems have been evident with women with breast implants. Mine didn't start right away, but after 8 years of dealing with this implant-associated illness and the residual after-effects, I've noticed a decline in my dental health that nobody else in my family has experienced. PattyGMCLADY98@... wrote: Did anyone have dental problems ? I think on the gallery of pictures I saw a picture of someones teeth, my teeth hurt don't know if its related hair is breaking off too not falling out breaking also I get shocks of pains in hands and feet...weird ??

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I am going to explant as soon as possible my appt is May 17th...I had MRI'S today for brain c spine and T spine...the doctor wants to rule out MS...I know I couldn't have that...I pray I don't.

[Guest guest]

GM,

We've seen a lot of unusual dental problems among

implanted women . . . Why, I have no idea. . . Unless,

with our immune systems worn down by dealing with

breast implants, we're susceptible to more bacteria

problems in our teeth and gums.

My only recommendation is to do everything possible to

take extremely good care of your teeth! . . .

Massaging around the gum line is important.The

bacteria that builds up there must be disrupted every

24 hours . . . When you floss, push the floss up into

the gums as far as possible while wrapping around the

tooth in front and behind the crevice being flossed .

.. . then brush thoroughly - two minutes is

recommended. I know there's some discussion against

Fluoride . . . but ACT has a mouth wash that hardens

the enamel - even though it has Fluoride.

I underwent a series of dental procedures last fall

that, I believe, stressed me so badly I developed

breast cancer! . . . I'm not a good dental patient! I

abhor anyone working in my mouth! . . .

If anyone had shown me the proper way to take care of

my teeth early on, I think my problems could have been

avoided.

Hugs,

Rogene

[Guest guest]

Are you going to a neurologist? I had those same MRI's however, MS wasn't ruled out until my neurologist did a spinal tap. My doctors were the same way... I went through so many tests, I could have been awarded for all the blood they took from me. I got soo tired of all the tests. Especially because they all came out "normal". I pray you find the answers you are seeking, my dear. LGMCLADY98@... wrote: I am going to explant as soon as possible my appt is May 17th...I had MRI'S today for brain c spine and T spine...the doctor wants to rule out MS...I know I couldn't have that...I pray I don't.Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment. "Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world." - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)See our photos website! Enter "implants" for access at this link:http://.shutterfly.com/action/

[Guest guest]

Yes, in the very end, a month or two before I had the implants

removed, I started having shooting pains in my gums, like nerve pain.

That has luckily gone away since explant.

Sis

>

> Did anyone have dental problems ? I think on the gallery of pictures

I saw a

> picture of someones teeth, my teeth hurt don't know if its related

hair is

> breaking off too not falling out breaking also I get shocks of pains

in hands

> and feet...weird ??

>

[Guest guest]

, how are you feeling? It's been almost 6 months for me and

I'm noticing subtle changes now, so I'm hoping that this continues.

Sis

> I am going to explant as soon as possible my appt is May

17th...I had MRI'S today for brain c spine and T spine...the doctor

wants to rule out MS...I know I couldn't have that...I pray I don't.

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed health care professional before commencing any medical

treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own

decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a

better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

> See our photos website! Enter " implants " for access at this link:

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[Guest guest]

Oh Sis, I am glad you mentioned that. I was going to ask anyone if they've had shooting pains in their gums, because I just started getting those! How strange that yours went away and mine is just starting. It's scary. It almost feels like my teeth are being attacked from the inside out instead of the other way around. I don't know what to make of it. I'll be sure to ask my new holistic dentist on Monday. Patty auntsisnj <auntsisnj@...> wrote: Yes, in the very end, a month or two before I had the implants removed, I started having shooting pains in my gums, like nerve pain. That has luckily gone away since explant.Sis>> Did anyone have dental problems ? I think on

the gallery of pictures I saw a > picture of someones teeth, my teeth hurt don't know if its related hair is > breaking off too not falling out breaking also I get shocks of pains in hands > and feet...weird ??

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GM,

You'd be shocked at how many tests implant women have

had run . . . and at how many of them come back normal

- even though they're very, very sick! . . . .

The best news is that, even those who have auto-immune

diagnoses usually find those symptoms gradually

disappear after their implants are out, and they work

at detoxing for a while . . .

I'd say, give yourself a year after explant and

detoxing before getting concerned about what you MIGHT

have! . . . I'm betting you'll be amazed (probably

amaze your doctor too.)

Hugs and prayers,

Rogene