Amalgam fillings

[Guest guest]

> I have quite a few amalgam fillings that were put in in the 70's

> (childhood). A recent hair analysis showed no mercury, but I have

> the mineral transport issues (all four low pattern) and high copper

> level, so I realize that I probably have the mercury poisoning..

and maybe copper too. How high was the copper?

> My

> question is. . . . Since the fillings have been in so long and there

> wasn't any mercury that showed up on the hair analysis, am I still

> absorbing mercury from those fillings

Yes.

> and should I have them removed,

Yes.

>or should I leave them alone.

No.

>Is there more risk in taking

> them out than leaving them in?

No, but there is risk in removing them and you shouldn't minimize that

in your considerations.

> Thanks for any input

> Rit

[Guest guest]

Rita,

Have them removed by a mercury-free dentist who will follow proer protocol.

S

>

I have quite a few amalgam fillings that were put in in the 70's <BR>

(childhood).  A recent hair analysis showed no mercury, but I have <BR>

the mineral transport issues (all four low pattern) and high copper <BR>

level, so I realize that I probably have the mercury poisoning..  My <BR>

question is. . . . Since the fillings have been in so long and there <BR>

wasn't any mercury that showed up on the hair analysis, am I still <BR>

absorbing mercury from those fillings and should I have them <BR>

removed, or should I leave them alone.  Is there more risk in taking <BR>

them out than leaving them in?<BR>

<BR>

Thanks for any input<BR>

Rita<BR>

=======================================================<BR>

[Guest guest]

i would keep discussing on the board what you do step by step. i

don't think those tests from 'compatiability' are reliable

ideally its best done one tooth at a time, say one a month

is that the huggins protocol? be very careful of any so called

detox's, they usually cause more problems than they solve.

you would be advised to take selenium as per my web page for a for a

while getting any amalgams removed

> I have found a dentist who removes amalgams and uses a special

protocol

> (don't recall the name of it at the moment). He has ordered tests

to

> determine what material to replace the fillings with, so I don't

just

> react to something new.

>

> Is there anything I should look for, be aware of, ask for, or avoid?

>

> Thanks,

> M

[Guest guest]

Caroline,

From what I understand, by the time you would have all those fillings

replaced (and there is a lot of disagreement about whether this

actually makes things better or worse), then detoxed yourself, you

would be talking about waiting years and years to have that next

child. Not that I'm informed enough to even have an opinion, this is

just what I gather.

I have a mish-mash of a file I've created that is basically " tips to

avoid having an ASD child. " Let me know if you'd like me to send it

to you privately.

> I was wondering how many moms here have amalgam fillings. Also, I

> was wondering how many of those moms also have typical children. We

> want more children (we have one little boy who is on the spectrum).

> I've been hearing so much about mercury and vaccinations and so on,

> and now I've just read that 10% of women have enough mercury in

> their systems to harm their unborn child.

[Guest guest]

Thank you . I would very much like to read your file and

appreciate your offering to send it to me.

My son's developmental pediatrician has told me (and I have heard it

from other sources as well) that there is only a 5% chance of having

another child with ASD. Of course, I'm not sure everything is being

taken into consideration (i.e. environmental issues, metal

toxicity...and so on) and I believe she is referring mostly to

genetics.

Thanks again, I look forward to hearing from you.

Take care,

Caroline

> > I was wondering how many moms here have amalgam fillings. Also,

I

> > was wondering how many of those moms also have typical children.

We

> > want more children (we have one little boy who is on the

spectrum).

> > I've been hearing so much about mercury and vaccinations and so

on,

> > and now I've just read that 10% of women have enough mercury in

> > their systems to harm their unborn child.

[Guest guest]

I have 10 amalgam fillings that are all at least 25 years old.

It is my 3rd child that rec'd the diagnosis of Autism. What I DID

do was replace an amalgam with a composite sometime between my 2nd

and 3rd child. It was not done under special, 'safe' conditions,

nor did I detox myself afterwards.

So, if amalgams are partially to blame for my son's condition, I

would say it was the REMOVAL of one of the amalgams that exposed him

to the unbound mercury. It would have been between 6 mos-2 years

before he was born. I still have to call my dentist to see when I

had the amalgam replaced.

All critics of the amalgam=Autism theory say that the mercury in our

mouths is stable until we remove it (it is bound to other

substances. Kind of like sodium and chloride: separately, both of

these are highly explosive/reactive/deadly agents. Bound together,

they are inert table salt). It is the drilling/grinding during

removal that exposes our bodies to the toxins. Others feel things

like grinding teeth, drinking warm liquids and just plain having the

mercury in our mouths is enough to poison our fetus.

My first two kids are very NT.

Good luck in your decision.

Pam

> I was wondering how many moms here have amalgam fillings. Also, I

> was wondering how many of those moms also have typical children.

We

> want more children (we have one little boy who is on the

spectrum).

> I've been hearing so much about mercury and vaccinations and so

on,

> and now I've just read that 10% of women have enough mercury in

> their systems to harm their unborn child. I have quite a few

> fillings (amalgam)and would like to know if this is a danger.

Should

> I get them replaced? Is this going to cause more toxicity if I do?

I

> hope someone can give me some insight into this. Thank you.

[Guest guest]

I'd be more concerned over a genetic factor than an environmental one. Seems

the chromosomal set up for some kids makes them more predisposed to react

negatively to environmental assaults then other ( should I say sturdier )

children? A number of my son's issues are similar to ones I experienced as a

small child, or my husband, just to a much more severe degree. In answer to

your question, I have several partial amalgam fillings and 3 porcelain ones

( after learning of the dangers of mercury). My son is on the spectrum, has

immune and gastrointestinal issues. I am pregnant and have no idea what

exactly will be the outcome for the child I am carrying. I will say that

thanks to cleaning up my body in numerous areas ( although amalgam fillings

are still in place) this pregnancy is already way different than my first,

no gestational diabetes, preeclampsia/toxemia, etc. Plus I'm not allowing

them to zap me with the MMR vaccine several times over, I've never held

titers to rubella. The rhogam shot will be thimerosal free, and this child

will not be vaccinated until they are 2. Even then, Dr. Megson has agreed to

order thimerosal free ( you folks know that vaccines containing thimerosal

are still on the shelves right? Pharmaceutical companies are no longer

manufacturing them this way, but those with shelf life are still being used.

Plus I hear that the mercury is still making its' way in, just under

different headings and no longer listed in the same places. Of course this

is rumor to me as I've not actually looked at any vials.) Anyhow Dr. Megson

agreed to order individual vaccines, so we don't have to deal with cocktails

when we finally do decide to vaccinate, and she'll ship them to our Doctor

who refuses to order them this way. I've changed a great deal in our

environment/hygiene regime, and our eating habits/food. Prior to getting

pregnant I did have myself tested for IgA, M, and G deficiencies as my son

is completely IgA deficient, and I had myself tested for other personal

bacterial and viral infections, all my tests came back fine. My immune

system works great. Plus, in cleaning up my diet, due to my son, and using

enzymes and probiotics myself, I no longer suffer from pancreatitus ( had

this for 15 years, very painful). I know there are recessive genes, and that

I can't control everything, but my husband and I thought long and hard prior

to getting pregnant again. I sympathize with your dilemma. I too did not

want to inflict this type of life on another innocent child. So we also had

to make sure we were financially, emotionally and physically ready to have

all these issues creep up in the next one or worse issues. I will say my ob.

labs show irregularities, spina bifida and down's are real potentials, then

take into account I've read in numerous places that once you have one child

on the spectrum you have anywhere from a 75% to 90% chance of having another

one on the spectrum. All this long post is meant to do is say, I understand,

we've struggled with this too. And, thanks to many caring wonderful people

on this board, we know there are as many with multiple spectrum kids, or

subsequent Down's children as those that have had subsequent " neurotypical "

children. Good luck to you. NO One here has ever said they'd trade any of

their kids in, so there's something.

Amalgam fillings

> I was wondering how many moms here have amalgam fillings. Also, I

> was wondering how many of those moms also have typical children. We

> want more children (we have one little boy who is on the spectrum).

> I've been hearing so much about mercury and vaccinations and so on,

> and now I've just read that 10% of women have enough mercury in

> their systems to harm their unborn child. I have quite a few

> fillings (amalgam)and would like to know if this is a danger. Should

> I get them replaced? Is this going to cause more toxicity if I do? I

> hope someone can give me some insight into this. Thank you.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I have 4 kids with #5 on the way. I have lots of fillings. My first

two kids are NT. They had all their vaccines and often had many at a

time because of periods of not having insurance. I actually had a

filling put in during my first pregnancy. There was a 5 year break

between #2 and #3 where I had more dental work done - especially a

very bad crown. I had the crown in for about 3 years and was sick

often. While I was pregnant with #3, it fell out and intuitively I

felt it was the cause of my feeling sick so I threw it away so I

would not be tempted to have it put back in. I have lived toothless

on one side of my mouth since. My third child was diagnosed with

autism when he was 3. He also had all his vaccines but using the

standard schedule instead of doubling up. He slept and played in a

Graco Pack N Play which is drenched in antimony. Shortly after his

diagnosis I had a hair analysis done and his level of antimony was

off the charts. Mercury was slightly elevated but I know this does

not always show up. I later read in Dr. Cutler's book about how if

is crown is placed on top of a tooth with a filling, they are often

different metals and can cause a reaction releasing the mercury in

the filling. Even though I knew nothing about the dangers about

dental work at the time, I felt that crown was like poison to me. I

had no idea how poisonous it could be for an unborn child. In the

end, I feel his autism was a combination of the mercury that was

released due to that crown, the antimony in his playpen in addition

to the added assult from the vaccines. Along comes #4 and at first

he was following some of the same patterns of his autistic brother.

I drastically reduced his vaccines after his 3 month vaccines and

when I started him on solid food avoided gluten. Then I came to

realize that the gluten in my milk was affecting him. Once I went

gluten-free he was fine. I now know he has celiac disease. He is 3

years of age and in no way autistic. His mind seems so advanced

beyond any child I have seen his age. I still have all my fillings

but feel confident that this child I am carrying will be fine. He

may start out with mercury in his system but I know more about

additional assults that I can prevent adding to it.

> I have 10 amalgam fillings that are all at least 25 years old.

>

> It is my 3rd child that rec'd the diagnosis of Autism. What I DID

> do was replace an amalgam with a composite sometime between my 2nd

> and 3rd child. It was not done under special, 'safe' conditions,

> nor did I detox myself afterwards.

>

> So, if amalgams are partially to blame for my son's condition, I

> would say it was the REMOVAL of one of the amalgams that exposed

him

> to the unbound mercury. It would have been between 6 mos-2 years

> before he was born. I still have to call my dentist to see when I

> had the amalgam replaced.

>

> All critics of the amalgam=Autism theory say that the mercury in

our

> mouths is stable until we remove it (it is bound to other

> substances. Kind of like sodium and chloride: separately, both of

> these are highly explosive/reactive/deadly agents. Bound together,

> they are inert table salt). It is the drilling/grinding during

> removal that exposes our bodies to the toxins. Others feel things

> like grinding teeth, drinking warm liquids and just plain having

the

> mercury in our mouths is enough to poison our fetus.

>

> My first two kids are very NT.

>

> Good luck in your decision.

>

> Pam

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

I had numerous amalgam fillings replaced while breastfeeding my ASD

son. I had this done prior to any knowledge of mercury and Autism.

I believe it was the removal of the filings and the mercury exposure

through breastmilk that began the downward spiral of my son. I urge

you NOT to do it while breastfeeding. Even if you use a mercury free

dentist, I just wouldn't take that chance. I believe someone else

may know how long you want to wait before becoming pregnant after you

have them removed. For some reason 3 to 6 months is in my head but I

could be wrong.

Thanks!

>

> Hi I have a question.

>

> I am breastfeeding and plan to become pregnant again. I have

7

> amalgam fillings. The more I read, the more I would like to have

them

> replaced. Would this be safe to do while breastfeeding, does it

> matter how many are replaced at once, would you consider this

> important before becomming pregnant, can the mercury effect the

eggs

> in the ovaries before they become " active " ??? Thank you for your

> comments and have a good day.

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

Carolyn,

The basic consensus is that you should never remove, replace or

install amalgams in a pregnant or nursing woman. If you wish to

remove your fillings, you need to wait until you are done nursing.

Have them all taken out and then wait at least 18 months before

becomming pregnant again.

Mercury affects the eggs, yes. It also stores in your uterus and every

other place of your body cells. I think the main damage is done in

utero exposure from mercury. But women with amalgams seem to have a

higher rate of miscarriage likely due to mercury causing egg problems

and problems at conception.

But you definitely should not mess with the fillings while nursing. I

had mine removed last year and was told not to get pregnant for at

least 18 months to be sure the higher amounts of Hg are dumped before

conceiving. Even post removal, your still too toxic within that first

18 months. Mercury can cause problems with the eggs before hand, and

the sperm too as it causes mutations in all cells. However, those

risks are much lower than concieving and carrying a baby while having

amalgams. Also, no chelation treatment can be going on while nursing

or trying to get pregnant.

So your decisions will be based upon how long you can wait to have the

next baby. If I were going to have more kids. I would remove all

amalgams. Go through detox and wait at least 18 months before trying

to conceive. Also making sure my husband did the same. Sperm can carry

mercury and be affected by it as well. I would also, not vaccinate

that new baby, and nurse for as long as possible.

>

> Hi I have a question.

>

> I am breastfeeding and plan to become pregnant again. I have 7

> amalgam fillings. The more I read, the more I would like to have

them

> replaced. Would this be safe to do while breastfeeding, does it

> matter how many are replaced at once, would you consider this

> important before becomming pregnant, can the mercury effect the eggs

> in the ovaries before they become " active " ??? Thank you for your

> comments and have a good day.

>

> Carolyn

>

[Guest guest]

Comments interspersed.

S S

Hi I have a question.

I am breastfeeding and plan to become pregnant again. I have 7

amalgam fillings. The more I read, the more I would like to have them

replaced. Would this be safe to do while breastfeeding,

*NO

does it

matter how many are replaced at once,

*Yes and how they're replaced.

would you consider this

important before becomming pregnant,

*Yes, but you need to wait a significant amount of time after

replacement/chelation before having the next child, so depends on whether you're

willing to do this.

can the mercury effect the eggs

in the ovaries before they become " active " ??? Thank you for your

comments and have a good day.

Carolyn

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[Guest guest]

Honestly I wouldn't even get my teeth cleaned while pregnant or nursing (if

amalgams) unless I was going to a dentist who knew how to clean " around "

them. Many common behaviors increase the vapor.

There are some things you can do to offset the, um, " emissions " though.

Like selenium supplementation.

Josie

www.leadingorganicskincare.com <http://www.leadingorganicskincare.com/>

[Guest guest]

Since we have been having several posts on teeth, I thought this might be

interesting to expand our knowledge about our teeth.

World Health Organization published its findings on environmental exposure to

Mercury. This is the first time Dental Amalgam Fillings were included as a

dietary source of Mercury. Their findings were that the main source of Mercury

exposure and absorption is from dental Amalgam Fillings - up to ten times the

amount you will get from fish and sea food. They also concluded that there is NO

safe level of Mercury vapour. The Mercury found in fish is Methyl Mercury & is

often detoxified by the presence of Selenium. Read all of this article below:

http://www.health-n-energy.com/ARTICLES/mercfill.htm

Blessings,

Lottie

[Guest guest]

Thanks !!  I will see if my husband can get dental insurance before I get

this done. 

From: epoxycozy <epoxycozy@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Amalgam Fillings

Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 4:12 AM

 

Margaret,

If you have dental insurance, you may be able to get some of the costs paid for.

If your amalgam fillings are over a certain age, dental insurance will usually

pay for some of the cost to replace them. Also, they will usually pay the full

cost of replacing any front/visible fillings with composite for cosmetic

purposes. Whether or not they will reimburse composite filling in the back will

depend on the insurance company.

I recently had 5 amalgam fillings in molars replaced. They were between 15 and

28 years old. Under my old insurance (Delta Dental), the out of pocket cost was

going to be @$700 because Delta didn't pay for composite in the back. They were

only going to pay for the amount amalgam would have cost. However, my husband's

work changed insurance to DHA Assurant before I could have the work done, and

they covered composite fillings in molars. My total out of pocket was @$200 to

replace the 5 fillings.

I've just had a consult about my 2 crowns. We don't know what is underneath,

but it is probably amalgam fillings. It is going to cost me probably $1500 to

have them redone. One is older and probably will be covered by insurance while

the other is only 8 years old and I'll have to pay all of the cost.

I recommend you go to the dentist you want to have do this and ask for a

consult...they often won't charge you and maybe you can get a ballpark estimate.

Hope that helps

>

> I have been detoxing my son and I am ready to start with myself. I have 19

Amalgam fillings. Does anyone know how much it would cost to have these

removed? I also am considering getting the molars removed and having a partial

denture put in place to reduce the cost. I have four children so as you can

imagine I don't have all the money in the world to spend on myself. Are there

any other alternatives that I might consider? Thank you in advance, Margaret

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Margaret,

Make sure to check that the partials don't contain toxic metals. I know that

many dentures contain mercury and cadmium in the pink gum part, not sure what

they use in partials.

S S

Amalgam Fillings

Posted by: " Margaret " shavers3@... shavers3

Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:18 pm (PST)

I have been detoxing my son and I am ready to start with myself. I have 19

Amalgam fillings. Does anyone know how much it would cost to have these removed?

I also am considering getting the molars removed and having a partial denture

put in place to reduce the cost. I have four children so as you can imagine I

don't have all the money in the world to spend on myself. Are there any other

alternatives that I might consider? Thank you in advance, Margaret

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