Fw: Obamacare...bend over!

[Guest guest]

Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it before you

get stuck for it.

Subject: Obamacare...bend over.. here it comes!

This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they really

don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national promotional tour,

started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super majority in both chambers and

not wanting to make the mistakes of HillaryCare they had NO intentions of

releasing the details until July...just days before the

vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

http://help.senate.gov/BAI09A84_xml.pdf

[Guest guest]

beware that this document is NOT official and sourced from FOX news.

Obamacare...bend over.. here it comes!

This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they

really don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national

promotional tour, started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super

majority in both chambers and not wanting to make the mistakes of

HillaryCare they had NO intentions of releasing the details until

July...just days before the

vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

http://help.senate.gov/BAI09A84_xml.pdf

[Guest guest]

Lottie, did you really read all that?  I got to the first page and quit.  I hope

someone breaks it down., I would like to know what is so bad about it. But for

myself, I feel that no one was happy with what we have, and a lot of people seem

to be prepared to not be happy with what's in the future for health care. So do

we give it a chance, and have it fail so we can say, HA, I TOLD YOU SO, or do we

give it a chance and say, WELL IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD.  Or how about,

well, it isn't perfect, but given some time maybe we can make it as close to

perfect as possible.  ( by the time it gets perfect Lottie we may both be

pushing up Daisies)  It's taken a long time to get in this shape, it certainly

is not going to get fixed over night.

I for one would love to hear from our friends living in countries where they

have socialized medicine, I have heard pros and cons, but that's only natural,

what in the world would please 100% of us?

Personally, I think the solution to our problems would have been to give each of

the 300 million voters in this country, one million dollars.  then we could pay

our mortgages, our cars, our health plans, and keep the money circulating, then

we would all be happy and Uncle Sam would not have had to come up with

$749,700,000.00 to bail out people who did not deserve it to begin with!!  Bobby

a (Bobby) Doyle Brecksville, Ohio, USA DX 05/1995 02/2000 - Gleevec

Trial/OHSU 06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU 06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra

Trial/OHSU 04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months #840  -   Zavie's

Zero Club 09/2006 -  out of CCR 04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan

06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks)

02/13/09 - XL trial ended due to side effects

04/13/09 - New Trial, Ariad / U. of Mich./ Dr. Talpaz

 

From: Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...>

Subject: [ ] Fw: Obamacare...bend over!

" CML " < >

Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 9:40 PM

Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it

before you get stuck for it.

Subject: Obamacare... bend over.. here it comes!

This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they really

don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national promotional tour,

started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super majority in both chambers and

not wanting to make the mistakes of HillaryCare they had NO intentions of

releasing the details until July...just days before the vote!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!.

Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

http://help. senate.gov/ BAI09A84_ xml.pdf

[Guest guest]

Lottie, I'm not sure that it is all that bad, From what I read, an

insurance cannot deny anyone with a pre existing condition, not charge an

exorbitant fee if they do have a health problem. I did not read the entire

600 pages, only the first few (once you got past the table of contents).

Please let me know either privately or through the board, whaqt yo0u

objections are. Maybe I just don;t understand. I know that my husband has

to continue to work so that I may receive health benifits as I have not been

able to find full time work with benifits for the past 2 years.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Lottie Duthu <lotajam@...> wrote:

>

>

> Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it before

> you get stuck for it.

>

> Subject: Obamacare...bend over.. here it comes!

>

> This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they

> really don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national

> promotional tour, started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super

> majority in both chambers and not wanting to make the mistakes of

> HillaryCare they had NO intentions of releasing the details until

> July...just days before the

> vote!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

>

> Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

> comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

>

> Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

>

> http://help.senate.gov/BAI09A84_xml.pdf

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I just got the invoice from medicare for the two units of blood I had a few

weeks ago,  It cost $3,600.00.I was in the hospital for 8 hours.  I also

received the invoice for the first BMA/BMB, it was $4,700.00, and I have been

getting one a month,three so far for this trial. Fortunately, I have Medicare

and AARP and pay nothing for these charges.  I pay over $300/month for this

privilege, which is peanuts next to having to pay it all if I didnt have it.

But, if I wasn't covered, I think I would rather know I could go to a hospital

if I had to, and receive care, rather than be turned away because I didn't have

it. It is nice to be able to choose your doctor, but if you really are in pain

and need a doctor, isn't it better to know you can go to one, rather than know

that you can't? sounds pretty happy with the way they do things down

under, how about some of you others on socialized medicine giving us your

opinion on it???  What do you like about it and what do you dislike about it. 

Now I'm going to try and wade through that Obama " stuff " Lottie sent us,

most likely I won't understand a word of it.  Bobby

a (Bobby) Doyle Brecksville, Ohio, USA DX 05/1995 02/2000 - Gleevec

Trial/OHSU 06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU 06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra

Trial/OHSU 04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months #840  -   Zavie's

Zero Club 09/2006 -  out of CCR 04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan

06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks)

02/13/09 - XL trial ended due to side effects

04/13/09 - New Trial, Ariad / U. of Mich./ Dr. Talpaz

 

>

>

> Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it before

> you get stuck for it.

>

> Subject: Obamacare... bend over.. here it comes!

>

> This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they

> really don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national

> promotional tour, started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super

> majority in both chambers and not wanting to make the mistakes of

> HillaryCare they had NO intentions of releasing the details until

> July...just days before the

> vote!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!.

>

> Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

> comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

>

> Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

>

> http://help. senate.gov/ BAI09A84_ xml.pdf

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Bobby:  I think so many of us are confused.  Lottie is always on top of every

situation.  She amazes me, and she probably understands all 600 pages.

You had a good idea with regard to letting people who have been involved in

government run healthcare systems to share their experiences.  I sure would like

to know what is good and what is bad also.

I also read 's response.  I myself am insured under my husbands

insurance, and we are doing okay.  Its when all the co-pays hit us for office

visits and prescriptions when it all comes at once.  I do know that we would

have to go right into another insurance if he lost this one due to fact of

pre-existing conditions are not covered if there is a lapse in insurance.

When my husband was out of work for 9 months, he lost his insurance.  What we

did is cash in our retirement money before the last day of coverage ran out,and

we got Cobra at $892.00 a month.  We put the money in the savings account, and

just gave it out monthly to Cobra for our coverage until he got another job.

I am the one who always works out the finances, and I planned for 1 year of

coverage in the event that he could not get work immediately.  We lived on his

unemployment until we got back on our feet, plus I had my disability check.

This whole thing really scares a lot of people, and you just have to figure out

things the best you can in advance and use any resources you have.

We were very blessed in a lot of ways with things that have gone crazy in our

life, even before I got CML.  We just live very simply to make ends meet, and my

heart goes out to anyone who has no resources and are hitting bottom already.

Something has to give real soon in this country.

>

>

> Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it before

> you get stuck for it.

>

> Subject: Obamacare... bend over.. here it comes!

>

> This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they

> really don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national

> promotional tour, started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super

> majority in both chambers and not wanting to make the mistakes of

> HillaryCare they had NO intentions of releasing the details until

> July...just days before the

> vote!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!.

>

> Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

> comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

>

> Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

>

> http://help. senate.gov/ BAI09A84_ xml.pdf

>

>

[Guest guest]

Crikey Bobby - that is crazy! I can remember where Lottie said she had to

get " credits " so that she could have a blood transfusion. We never get

invoiced so wouldn't have a clue how much a BMB for example costs. I know a

PCR costs $200 if I couldn't claim for it.

Regards,

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

ROBERTA DOYLE

Sent: Tuesday, 16 June 2009 12:03 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] Fw: Obamacare...bend over!

Hi, I just got the invoice from medicare for the two units of blood I had a

few weeks ago, It cost $3,600.00.I was in the hospital for 8 hours. I also

received the invoice for the first BMA/BMB, it was $4,700.00, and I have

been getting one a month,three so far for this trial. Fortunately, I have

Medicare and AARP and pay nothing for these charges. I pay over $300/month

for this privilege, which is peanuts next to having to pay it all if I didnt

have it.

But, if I wasn't covered, I think I would rather know I could go to a

hospital if I had to, and receive care, rather than be turned away because I

didn't have it. It is nice to be able to choose your doctor, but if you

really are in pain and need a doctor, isn't it better to know you can go to

one, rather than know that you can't? sounds pretty happy with the way

they do things down under, how about some of you others on socialized

medicine giving us your opinion on it??? What do you like about it and what

do you dislike about it.

Now I'm going to try and wade through that Obama " stuff " Lottie sent us,

most likely I won't understand a word of it. Bobby

a (Bobby) Doyle Brecksville, Ohio, USA DX 05/1995 02/2000 - Gleevec

Trial/OHSU 06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU 06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra

Trial/OHSU 04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months #840 - Zavie's

Zero Club 09/2006 - out of CCR 04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan

06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks)

02/13/09 - XL trial ended due to side effects

04/13/09 - New Trial, Ariad / U. of Mich./ Dr. Talpaz

>

>

> Here it is, Obama's health care plan. Maybe you will want to read it

before

> you get stuck for it.

>

> Subject: Obamacare... bend over.. here it comes!

>

> This 'health care' bill is not numbered and according to Fox News they

> really don't us to see it, yet. Obama's plan is to complete national

> promotional tour, started yesterday, and knowing that he has a super

> majority in both chambers and not wanting to make the mistakes of

> HillaryCare they had NO intentions of releasing the details until

> July...just days before the

> vote!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!.

>

> Obama didn't want to give those who oppose the plan time to launch a

> comprehensive and coordinated counter proposal.

>

> Here is the complete 600+ pages...bend over.

>

> http://help. senate.gov/ BAI09A84_ xml.pdf

>

>