Guest guest Posted March 13, 1999 Report Share Posted March 13, 1999 I was talking on the side with someone here about herbs and vegetables with diuretic action and the question came up about this being hard on the kidneys. Wondering if any of you have info on whether this is true of herb and veg diuretics or if it is a concern mostly with prescription meds. LizG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Lynn, You can safely assume that any water soluble vitamin is going to be depleted by diuretics. So, that includes vitamin C and all of the B vitamins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Lynn, Forgot potassium....eat a bunch of bananas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Okay, my memory is gone today. Someone mentioned taking a supplement for what diuretics take out of your body, and right now I can't remember what that is. But I am taking 2 40 mg. offuresemide for diuretic. Then they gave me 10meq. of Pot Chlor Sr to off set the loss of what ever that is I can't remember. I am also taking Allegra for allergies. I started them both about 2 months ago. This bunch of tests were " up " . could it be one of those drugs? does anyone have an idea on that. I want to be prepared when I call the Dr. tomorrow. Thanks Lynn aih in Wa. CREE8V1@... wrote: > From: CREE8V1@... > > Janelle, > > I do take Thisilyn regularly (3 X a day), but I can't say if it actually > makes me feel better. I started taking it before the pred and Imuran, but it > was the pred and Imuran that brought my enzymes back to normal. As I > understand it's function, I have not read anything about it stopping > inflammation, but it is supposed to help the liver cells do their job. > > Roxanne > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 So should I be taking more than a " one a day vitamin " I know nothing of vitamins and supplements, other than go by a " one a day " . Lynn aih Ceallachqn@... wrote: > From: Ceallachqn@... > > Hi Lynn, > You can safely assume that any water soluble vitamin is going to be depleted > by diuretics. So, that includes vitamin C and all of the B vitamins. > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi , the Dr. said bananas are not enough when I am taking these pills at this rate. I have diabetes too, and I don't think I can do that. Lynn Ceallachqn@... wrote: > From: Ceallachqn@... > > Hi Lynn, > Forgot potassium....eat a bunch of bananas. > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Lynn, When I first started taking diuretics I was taking 80 mgs. of lasix daily and also K-Dur, a potassium supplement. I still had problems with cramps which meant that I had potassium depletion. My doctor changed my diuretic to Aldactone, a potassium sparing diuretic, and took me off lasix. Women can have side effects from Aldactone, and at least one of them is extreme breast tenderness. I had a terrible problem. So, I was then prescribed Ameloride, another potassium sparing diuretic. No more cramps but the edema got out of control to the point I couldn't even wear shoes anymore and ascites was terrible. I looked 10 months pregnant. Finally, a few months ago I started taking 20 mgs. of lasix in addition to Ameloride. When the edema only improved slightly, it was increased to 40 mgs. However, I am not taking potassium, even though I was told by an endocrinologist that I should take it with lasix. My Hepatologist told me that all I needed to do was eat bananas. I'm not crazy about bananas and I haven't had one in a couple of weeks. I suspect that whatever is in Ameloride is protecting me at least a little from potassium loss but I can't be sure about that. I might be making a mistake by believing that if I'm not having foot cramps, I probably don't have potassium depletion. All of that said, my Mom was in a coma due to potassium depletion and even after she came out of it, she was completely confused and didn't return to normal for another couple of weeks even though she was in the hospital. Potassium depletion definitely can be very dangerous. And, to top it, right now my husband is on a " watch " because of low potassium due to high blood pressure meds he takes! Yet, my potassium continues to remain within normal ranges. I don't know what all of this means, but I think it adds up to the fact that diuretics without potassium from some source can be very dangerous if not fatal. Take care, Geri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Lynn, I have to take a potassium sup with the diuretics that I am on, maybe that is what you are after. Good luck. SueB. ---------- > From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> > onelist > Subject: Re: [ ]diuretics > Date: Tuesday, 20 July 1999 12:15 > > From: Lynn <CEN32195@...> > > Okay, my memory is gone today. Someone mentioned taking a supplement for what > diuretics take out of your body, and right now I can't remember what that is. > But I am taking 2 40 mg. offuresemide for diuretic. Then they gave me 10meq. of > Pot Chlor Sr to off set the loss of what ever that is I can't remember. I am > also taking Allegra for allergies. I started them both about 2 months ago. This > bunch of tests were " up " . could it be one of those drugs? does anyone have an > idea on that. I want to be prepared when I call the Dr. tomorrow. Thanks Lynn > aih in Wa. > > CREE8V1@... wrote: > > > From: CREE8V1@... > > > > Janelle, > > > > I do take Thisilyn regularly (3 X a day), but I can't say if it actually > > makes me feel better. I started taking it before the pred and Imuran, but it > > was the pred and Imuran that brought my enzymes back to normal. As I > > understand it's function, I have not read anything about it stopping > > inflammation, but it is supposed to help the liver cells do their job. > > > > Roxanne > > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Geri, so the good aoutways the bad effects to the liver. Or are there any bad effects to the liver of AIH patients? Lynn Geri Spang wrote: > From: Geri Spang <spangs@...> > > Lynn, > When I first started taking diuretics I was taking 80 mgs. of lasix daily > and also K-Dur, a potassium supplement. I still had problems with cramps > which meant that I had potassium depletion. My doctor changed my diuretic > to Aldactone, a potassium sparing diuretic, and took me off lasix. Women > can have side effects from Aldactone, and at least one of them is extreme > breast tenderness. I had a terrible problem. So, I was then prescribed > Ameloride, another potassium sparing diuretic. No more cramps but the > edema got out of control to the point I couldn't even wear shoes anymore > and ascites was terrible. I looked 10 months pregnant. > > Finally, a few months ago I started taking 20 mgs. of lasix in addition to > Ameloride. When the edema only improved slightly, it was increased to 40 > mgs. However, I am not taking potassium, even though I was told by an > endocrinologist that I should take it with lasix. My Hepatologist told me > that all I needed to do was eat bananas. > > I'm not crazy about bananas and I haven't had one in a couple of weeks. I > suspect that whatever is in Ameloride is protecting me at least a little > from potassium loss but I can't be sure about that. I might be making a > mistake by believing that if I'm not having foot cramps, I probably don't > have potassium depletion. > > All of that said, my Mom was in a coma due to potassium depletion and even > after she came out of it, she was completely confused and didn't return to > normal for another couple of weeks even though she was in the hospital. > Potassium depletion definitely can be very dangerous. And, to top it, > right now my husband is on a " watch " because of low potassium due to high > blood pressure meds he takes! Yet, my potassium continues to remain within > normal ranges. I don't know what all of this means, but I think it adds up > to the fact that diuretics without potassium from some source can be very > dangerous if not fatal. > Take care, > Geri > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Lynn, I was being facetious when I said to eat lots of bananas. Yes, bananas are high in potassium, but I realize they won't cut it. I was joshing you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 1999 Report Share Posted July 20, 1999 Hi Lynn, Yes, a one a day multi vitamin is ok if you are healthy. For those of us who need higher nutrition you could still take the one a day but add to that. For example, read what is in your multi vitamin. Then add extra of C to equal , say between 1000 mg. and 3000 mg. You need to spread this out over the day. Then, take pantothenic acid (a B vitamin). See that you are getting at least 500 mg. a day. 1000 mg. is probably better. Also up your other b vitamins. Be careful of niacin though. too much can give you the itchies. This is just an example. You may want to start out with less and that is fine. Read up on your supplements as you go along. The main thing is to keep your vitamins balanced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 1999 Report Share Posted July 21, 1999 Hi , I could just see me sitting next to a pile of bananas and trying to eat them all for my potassium! Lynn Ceallachqn@... wrote: > From: Ceallachqn@... > > Hi Lynn, > I was being facetious when I said to eat lots of bananas. Yes, bananas are > high in potassium, but I realize they won't cut it. I was joshing you > > > --------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2001 Report Share Posted October 28, 2001 Certain Diuretics May Be Protective Against Seizures Animal and epidemiological studies suggest that the diuretics furosemide and chlorthiazide may have anticonvulsant action, researchers report in the October issue of the ls of Neurology. http://www.medscape.com/44088.rhtml?srcmp=Neur-102601 Read it here Dear list, Natural diuretics known to improve neurological conditions are tea from white dead nettle, and yellow dead nettle (but not red dead nettle!) Tea from white dead nettle blossoms will cost around fourhundred fifteen dollars per thousand grams in a pharmacy here. Best regards, Katharina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Addendum: Be sure you're getting plenty of potassium when you take a diuretic. Harper In a message dated 1/7/09 8:57:11 AM, tkp53@... writes: > has anyone else had probs with diaretics causing > cramping in stomach, or in your back in the kidney area? Also blood in > your urine if you use them? > ************** New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000026) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I will try to call her this weekend. Lili and i are in a hotel because opossums are camped out under our house with fleas galore!!! The fleas crawled up into the house via the electric outlets and plumbing. It's a nightmare, so we retreated to the hotel until the grim reaper of opossums and fleas clears the area tomorrow! Weeeeee.... So, because i can't be around the chemicals, Lili and a get an inconvienent 'vacation' to our own city! Hahahah. The doctor issues at MDA are the same for me, but at least i have some great great auxilliary team folks. Good luck to all. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] Diuretics Hello to all - Cousin Dona said her med of Dyazide not working at all. She has been on it for 20 years. I suggested often meds will suddenly stop working and may call for a change. She wanted me to ask what diuretics you are on. If she can possibly make it, she will be off to MDACC Saturday. Usually stays 4 or 5 days at Rotary House, If anyone is there, maybe could call her room: Dona Dunn. She sees Dr. Cortes who, believe me, is no Dr. Talpaz. My last 2 trips to Houston with her (out of 16), he never asked who was sitting in a corner of the room and conducted the entire visit standing up with one foot in the hall and one in the exam room. Bobbie, I think you are lucky to be in his care. Dona asked me once whether anyone was in her trial. She began April 2001 - Trial idol-015. Maybe the idol part is 1dol> We remember Kirsten Lieberman and also Dawn and husband called Capt. The own a fishing business in Florida. Couple of years later met (as in educator ) and also C. Also miss hearing from Dane, who lived in Florida and wrote often with lots of pictures.. He finally went the BMT route. Enough nostalgia??!! Avia (Hertz nurtle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 > > Hello to all - Cousin Dona said her > med of Dyazide not working at all. She > has been on it for 20 years. I suggested > often meds will suddenly stop working and may call for a change. She > wanted me to > ask what diuretics you are on. Hi Avia, I think most people who really need a diuretic are on lasix, but then you also have to watch potassium. Dr. Druker likes to use diazide, but I don't think it is a heavy duty diuretic....and it spares the potassium. Thanks for the little nostalgia....it is Capt. Bob from Florida and his wife Dawn. I hope Donna has a good trip. It is hard to lose a favorite doctor and one as personable as Dr. Talpaz. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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