Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 BMA's are painful most of the time. I have posted before. I took two adavin and 2 vicoden when I had them done. I was sort of in la la land. Still felt it but not much. Tell your doctors how bad his last one was and maybe they will give him something to put him in la la land. I am sure they will. I wish you all the luck, We will be thinking about you. Sharon T _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of perryandlori Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:35 AM Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Lori... I go to MD and will be glad to help in any way i can. 1). Yes they can move fast to get you in. 2) I dont know anything abour Dr. Jabbour 3) You can ask that your dad get sedation (versed) for the bone marrow. It makes it better and the techs at MDA are usually good. 4). It takes several days to do everything and then get all, or some of the results. It may be less days, but plan for what they asked. If you have any questions just ask away! Rhonda Dx Nov 2007 Sprycel only 80mg Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hi Lori, I no longer go to MDACC, my dr. Talpaz left there and is now with the U. of Mich, so I go there. BUT, I did go to MDACC,, for almost 2 years. And I never had a bad experience there with a BMA/BMB. The technicians there are well trained, and do a supberb job. I don't believe they will sedate you there, but perhaps his dr can prescribe an Ativan before the procedure, just to relax him enough to put him at ease. Good luck, Bobby a (Bobby) Doyle Brecksville, Ohio, USA DX 05/1995 02/2000 - Gleevec Trial/OHSU 06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU 06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra Trial/OHSU 04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months #840 - Zavie's Zero Club 09/2006 - out of CCR 04/29/08 - XL228 Trial/ U.of Michigan 06/02/08 - CCR ( in 4 weeks) 02/13/09 - XL trial ended due to side effects 04/13/09 - New Trial, Ariad / U. of Mich./ Dr. Talpaz From: perryandlori <perryandlori@...> Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 2:34 PM Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Hi Lori, I go to MD for treatment of cml from Iowa. So I understand completely the anxiety involved in traveling so far and being away for days at a time. BUT I have no regrets. You will find MDACC to be overwhelming at first. It's a very large facility but the people there will be able to help you to get to your appts. When I was referred to MDACC it ony took 2 weeks! I was really surprised too. I guess it doesn't give you time to rethink your decision. lol. You will not have regrets - your dad will be in very good, experienced hands. Re the bone marrow aspiration - the technicians do them all day long. Very good at what they do. Your dad can also request pre-meds if he seems anxious. There are others in this group that also go to MDACC so I know you will get all your questions and concerns answered. I am here now but will be flying back home tomorrow. I will be returning Aug 10th so if you are still at MDACC, you may let me know and we can visit. Bring a GOOD book - there is alot of time sitting and waiting. Visit with people around you while in the waiting area. I find that I learn so much by getting to know the other patients. My dr is Dr Cortes. I'm not familiar with Dr. Jabbour, but others might be. You are not making a mistake. Getting a second opinion is always good in many different situations. Penny, from the group, came for a consult and I think her doctor will be able to treat her as the doctors here would. My dad was diagnosed with Prostrate cancer in April. Since I was coming to Houston for treatment he thought he would come too, just for another opinion. He was so impressed with the doctors here that he will have his surgery and follow up treatment here. There are other drugs than Gleevec. Hopefully they will find one that works better for your Dad. Stay in touch. There are many here that can help you. God Bless, Jackie S. From: perryandlori <perryandlori@...> Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 1:34 PM Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I'm so pleased to hear your dad will be going to MD ! I would ask for pain medication for the biopsy -- and not just lidocaine. Best of luck -- I'll have my fingers crossed for you. From: perryandlori@... Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 18:34:44 +0000 Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori _________________________________________________________________ Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now. http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants & form=MLOGEN & publ=WLHMTAG & crea=TXT_MLOGE\ N_Local_Local_Restaurants_1x1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 I think if the Dr is experienced it is not as painful. Good luck your dad is in my prayers Anita ________________________________ From: Sharon Teichera <onthewtr@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:28:56 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow BMA's are painful most of the time. I have posted before. I took two adavin and 2 vicoden when I had them done. I was sort of in la la land. Still felt it but not much. Tell your doctors how bad his last one was and maybe they will give him something to put him in la la land. I am sure they will. I wish you all the luck, We will be thinking about you. Sharon T _____ From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of perryandlori Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:35 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 My first one was a doozy because the white blood cells had become so dense the doctor had to use the needle like a fork and scrape out what had become hard matter. Yow! Did that hurt! From: awristen1@... Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:55:25 -0700 Subject: Re: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow I think if the Dr is experienced it is not as painful. Good luck your dad is in my prayers Anita ________________________________ From: Sharon Teichera <onthewtr@...> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:28:56 PM Subject: RE: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow BMA's are painful most of the time. I have posted before. I took two adavin and 2 vicoden when I had them done. I was sort of in la la land. Still felt it but not much. Tell your doctors how bad his last one was and maybe they will give him something to put him in la la land. I am sure they will. I wish you all the luck, We will be thinking about you. Sharon T _____ From: groups (DOT) com [mailto:groups (DOT) com] On Behalf Of perryandlori Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 11:35 AM groups (DOT) com Subject: [ ] Dr. Jabbour and Bone Marrow Hello CML Family. Feel like I know you all as I read your posts all day long via my blackberry. I have not written in a while. Sometimes it is all I can do to keep up with my family of six and be involved with my parents. My dad is the one that has CML. Well, long story short, as well as being diagnosed with CML in Nov. 2008, he also suffered a major heart attack in March after a heart cath. So it has been an up and down, mostly down battle. He has had lots of side effects from the Gleevec and my sister and I have really pushed our parents to go to MD . We live in middle georgia. So.... mom looked into it and they called her today and said he has an appointment Monday. I am going to go back in the archives that I have saved about MD , but I had few questions just to throw out. 1. Do they go this fast?? I thought it would be weeks out. 2. He has been assigned to Dr. Jabbour. Does anyone know anything about him? 3. He will have the Bone Marrow test. The last one he had they really could not complete because it was so painful. What can we do differently this time? I think I remember reading where some of you wrote in on that. 4. What should we expect? They told mom to plan on being there 5-6 days. My dad really does not want to go, but we decided that it would be a family decision. Between three girls he lost:). But seriously, I don't want it to be any worse than it has to be and I would like to help them prepare. I thnk that is all I can think of. We are really so naive that we don't know what to ask. I feel like I am walking in a totally dark room. Plus this was really my pushing for them to go out there. I just hope he has a good doctor and this won't be a disaster. You can probably feel my anxiety. I guess now it is time to take a step, but it is so scary when you are pushing your parent, when it was always them pushing you. I'll stop now and listen for your advise. God Bless, Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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