Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 In a message dated 2/6/01 7:20:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, dina.mason@... writes: We are at Camp Pendleton and our state of redidence is Texas and I don't think there is an exemption for Texas is there? WOW - someone who is close to me, thats so nice. I just signed my little boy into day care - I just and to sign a form saying it was against my personal beliefs. So nice to hear from someone so close by...... Chelly San Diego, CA Mommy to Trenton 8/19/99 - No Shots! "Time may be a great healer, but it's a lousy beautician." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 " Anyway, I was curious if any of you ever were or, are in the military and how do/did you handle this. Thank you. " My husband was in for 8 years. We were married for 3 of them and had a son while we were in. Our experience was a bit different as we followed teh rules and our son reacted. They refused to accept that is was a reaction to a vaccine. As you are a dependent and not the " property of the Marine " corp you prolly have a valid Drivers lic where you are, which makes you a legal resident. Most active duty military keep their drivers lic from the state that they are from an therefore if they were to have a problem they would then call the congressman from their homestate. What I do know about the Marine Corp I learned by experience. I will now share that with you. The #1 thing that they HATE is a ticked off civillian wife. Let it be YOUR decision. They can NOT control you. And they can not punish your husband for your decisions unless you are causing trouble on the base like writing hot checks, running a non approved daycare, stuff like that. Find out what they laws are for the state that you and your husband are from and the base where your dh is stationed. Whatever exemptions are allowed take one. The one thing that I learned in all this, is you have to know the facts as to why you are choosing this. The dependants of active duty and the active duty military are usually the testing grounds for vaccines. If you need or want more info you can e-mail me directly. P.S> Where are you stationed at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 We are at Camp Pendleton and our state of redidence is Texas and I don't think there is an exemption for Texas is there? If you need or want more info you can e-mail me directly. >P.S> Where are you stationed at? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2001 Report Share Posted February 6, 2001 YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there for 4 years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, That is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. We are at Camp Pendleton and our state of redidence is Texas and I don't think there is an exemption for Texas is there? If you need or want more info you can e-mail me directly. >P.S> Where are you stationed at? > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2001 Report Share Posted February 7, 2001 At 06:14 PM 02/06/2001 -0800, you wrote: > > >We are at Camp Pendleton and our state of redidence is Texas and I don't >think there is an exemption for Texas is there? > Texas has religious exemption http://www.vaccineinfo.net You are in California now and California has a philosophical exemption, don't know if you could use that. It doesn't matter though as there is no law to vaccinate a baby. I'd stay clear of the docs. -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I know here in Ca. we can just say that we don't want to vax for philosoplical reasons and relgious. I didn't realize that in Tx we could go with the religios reason. He we would say philosophical reasons because we haven't gone to church in a long time. >YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there for >4 >years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, >That >is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 I would go with philo then. It is much easier. Va used to have a philo, but they no longer do. But some religious are written more like a philo, so that makes it easier. RE: Military I know here in Ca. we can just say that we don't want to vax for philosoplical reasons and relgious. I didn't realize that in Tx we could go with the religios reason. He we would say philosophical reasons because we haven't gone to church in a long time. >YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there for >4 >years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, >That >is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2001 Report Share Posted February 8, 2001 We live on the north part of base, in San Clemente. So, we are not that faw away. LOL _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Sorry, ladies but I need to catch up with all of you. What is philo? The only philo I know is the philo dough you use to bake with, lol! Robin D --- Dina Mason <dina.mason@...> wrote: > I would go with philo then. It is much easier. Va used to have a > philo, > but they no longer do. But some religious are written more like a > philo, > so that makes it easier. > > > RE: Military > > > I know here in Ca. we can just say that we don't want to vax for > philosoplical reasons and relgious. I didn't realize that in Tx we > could go > with the religios reason. He we would say philosophical reasons because > we > haven't gone to church in a long time. > > > >YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there > for > >4 > >years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, > >That > >is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 Sorry!! Philo is short for Philosophical Exemption RE: Military > > > I know here in Ca. we can just say that we don't want to vax for > philosoplical reasons and relgious. I didn't realize that in Tx we > could go > with the religios reason. He we would say philosophical reasons because > we > haven't gone to church in a long time. > > > >YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there > for > >4 > >years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, > >That > >is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2001 Report Share Posted February 9, 2001 It is short for philosophical, like in philosophical exemptions for vaxx's... Sharon, Quakertown PA RE: Military > > > > > > I know here in Ca. we can just say that we don't want to vax for > > philosoplical reasons and relgious. I didn't realize that in Tx we > > could go > > with the religios reason. He we would say philosophical reasons because > > we > > haven't gone to church in a long time. > > > > > > >YES!!!! Texas has a very lenient religious exemption. I lived there > > for > > >4 > > >years. From what I understand Ca is an easy place to get an exemption, > > >That > > >is what I have heard. Maybe someone else here can fill you in on CA. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 Military Requirements: Must be a US citizen OR in the US on a Permanent Resident Visa. Must be under the age of 34. Must have proof of age. Must have no more than 2 dependents (i.e. a spouse and one child). Must be a graduate of High School (12 Grades). Must be able to pass the mental and physical tests Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2002 Report Share Posted August 15, 2002 > Hello List: > I was just wondering if anyone knows any information about Dwarfs > joining the Military. Can we join with our height? Go to this link: http://www.armybasic.homestead.com/links.html Go down to the part where it asks about the physical fitness test. From there is a link to a chart on how many push-ups and how fast one must run the 2 miles in order to get through basic training. Usually when this question comes up, it is always about height, but as you can see height doesnt factor in as much as the ability to complete basic training. I doubt exemptions to the rule of basic training are made on height issues. It is pretty much if you can't do the requirements then you are out. M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Bourn, Go to Canada, I've heard that they have more of an open mind when it comes to able bodies in their military. People of minor disabilities are in office positions, rather than out in the field fighting. Your chances of getting into the US Military are squat, believe me, I worked for them for 18 years and I was in places that few know of, unless you watch the History Channel in about 10 years. Your not eligible for US service do to our disability, our displasia, spinal conditions, feet, hands, arm and leg lengths, finger length, I can go on all night. We fought hard to get recognized as a handicap/disability in the 70's, so why would the Military take you, you are legally disabled. Don't you understand, able body means that nothing is wrong with you physically, that's why it's the Military. They go at a moments notice, run for miles with weapons and backpacks weighing you down with 50 to 100 pounds, and if you don't keep up, your dead. So leave it alone, even the CIA won't take us, and their Civilian, not Military. If you want to shoot weapons, go get a gun permit and buy something that you can shoot. Take it from me, there's a wide selection out there, it's just what can you handle and hold. And then there is the uniforms, they don't tailor make them. And the boots, good luck if you have a small size and large width. If you want to be a part of the Military, join the Government, working for The Department of Defense, then hope to work for either the Army (they don't pay to well), the Marine Corp. (their pay is better), the Navy (good pay), or the Air Force (great pay), the Coast Guard isn't the Department of Defense, they're with the Department of Transportation, they're pay isn't too bad. But when you work for the Military, you're working in a whole different world, you're either accepted, or shunned. Usually if your family has served and had high honors, you're accepted. But if your family was protesting and known well in the area, I wouldn't suggest you work for the Military, it could be dangerous. I would highly suggest you get a collage degree, and something in engineering before thinking about working for DOD, as it helps to have a great degree behind you. The only other suggestion is to get a great trade, nuclear welders are highly sought after that can get into very tight areas, like submarines and ships. I have a friend who still works for my old command, and that's what he does, and it pays as well as someone with an engineering degree. So that's something to think about Bourn, rather than getting your butt shot at, which happens even if you work for the Government, why not work on the ships and bases and posts (the army doesn't have bases, they have posts, don't ask, it's an army thing). You meet allot of interesting people, make allot of friends, and educate allot of people on dwarfism at the same time. So try that out, rather than get bummed when they say no because of your height, OK. Working for the Government is to me a higher honor than serving a 4 year stint. I had a career longer in Government than any of my family did in the Military, and I saw a whole lot more. So try it out. Rob Tille _____________________________________________________ Military > Hello List: > I was just wondering if anyone knows any information about Dwarfs joining the > Military. Can we join with our height? I heard that the military can not > have a height requirement any longer but i was just wondering what other > people have to say about it. Could it be good or bad? > Just curious on what to do with life. > BOURN > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2002 Report Share Posted August 16, 2002 Rob and list: Much of what Rob writes is excellent advice. The military and the US government have a lot of civillian positions for qualified people (e.g. college degree in engineering or a trade). One MUST REMEMBER that - regardless of what you see advertised as military career paths - one's primary jobs in the military are to KILL PEOPLE and/or DIE FOR YOUR COUNTRY. This is what happens in wars, right? The hope is that one succeeds at the first and fails at the second. In order to do that, one must be superior both physically and mentally than his/her enemy in order to overpower them. Let's face it. If the military were to remove some of its limitations on disabilities and not discriminate, that Taliban moron you have been sent to kill is not going to cut you any slack because you're in a wheelchair or have sort stature. You have to realize that, sometimes, discrimination is for your own PROTECTION and the protection of others. If the State of Washington does not let blind people drive automobiles, is that discrimination? Yes, probably. Would anyone in their right mind object (without adaptive equipment to restore eyesight)? You tell me. As Rob said, there are many other non-military occupations designed to provide the technical and other services that the military needs. And, chances are, if you're good, you could save the life of a poor foot soldier sent overseas to freeze is ass off in the cold Afghan mountains - by providing him with the proper technology. As an added note, there are MANY people WITHOUT physical handicaps that are rejected from the military because they cannot pass the physical or mental requirements. However, if there is ever another world war with significant loss of life, you will find the standards relaxed somewhat. Be careful what you wish for..... Randy - Anti-General - Bradford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2005 Report Share Posted June 24, 2005 Thank you, No they are here in the states. I'll have her try this too. military are your friends overseas? we are military, in NY, and my son has a religious waver. No more shots for him. I don't think the military can FORCE a child to get a shot. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2005 Report Share Posted June 26, 2005 Hello: We are a military family. I was appalled when I went to register my child for athletic stuff on post here in the states that they required proof of immunization (state laws generally allow for parental discretion, however the military does not. They get away with it because the land the posts are on are considered federal rather than state. It falls under the UCMJ). Anyway, after much arguing with the woman at the counter she finally conceded there were two reasons your child could be allowed not to have the shots... religeous and medical. So, you either need a note from your clergy or a note from your doctor. Parental discretion is not an option unfortunately, Kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Once a Military Mom, it's for always..And you suddenly find yourself not worrying about just your own, but about them all.. My son served 10 years Special Forces.. I thought that endless stress would end when he finally came home, but as long as there are kids away from home, here I am, forever worrying and praying for them and their families.. We ARE proud of them all!. Keep your e-mail address, it rocks! momof3militarykids <momof3militarykids@...> wrote: My oldest, a daughter, , just got out of the Navy in January after 8 years; the middle one, , also recently out of the Army as an MP; and the baby boy, , is still active duty after 6 years in the Navy. Guess I need a new email address, but ...nah. ha Thanks for asking!>> I forgot to ask , what branch of the military are your chldren in ?> Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2007 Report Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yep, absolutely we ARE proud of them ALL. Oh brother, I had it easy compared to you. Ten years of it - oh no. Everynight my husband still " cusses " at the broadcasts of the lost heroes. We do take it personally, don't we. Luckily, my daughter never had to go to sea (she does computer networks) although she WANTED to - ha. And across this country was as far as the other son had to go. > > > > I forgot to ask , what branch of the military are your chldren in ? > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Dear , Please know that I have the utmost respect for anyone who served in the military and I for one would like to personally thank you for serving this great country and I'm glad you made it back home. I saw my brothers, cousins and schoolmates march off to war. Some made the supreme sacrifice and didn't come back home. It pains me to go to European countries and never see monuments to Americans who gave their lives in defense of others. My husband is an Air Force veteran and 2 sons were in the Navy. My brother spent 30 years in the Air Force and 25 years with the Veterans Administration. After 50 years, they gave him a diamond pin for his service to the government. I told him it was a Woolworth diamond. I hope everyone remembers Woolworth. The very day they were to present him with an award and the pin, he fell and his face was so bruised, the nurses got their make up kits out and fixed him up so you couldn't see his bruises for his photograph. I tease him about that, too. He came back to a flooded home after Katrina and never went back to work. He's 88 now and can barely walk, so I think he is officially retired. Hands & hearts, Lottie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 I take my hat off to you and your family. I only served one term just prior to the Vietnam Conflict (War) and have known so many that gave much more than I have to serve their country. Anyone that has been in the danger zone of protecting our country receives my thanks for what they have done. While the supply fleet is an important cog in the overall operations, I know from a 2 day experience that our fleet was given as much or more protection than the Chief Of Staff visiting a conflict area. I do thank you for your kind words. H. > > Dear , > Please know that I have the utmost respect for anyone who served > in the military and I for one would like to personally thank you for serving this > great country and I'm glad you made it back home. I saw my brothers, cousins and schoolmates march off to war. Some made the supreme sacrifice and didn't come back home. It pains me to go to European countries and > never see monuments to Americans who gave their lives in defense of > others. > > My husband is an Air Force veteran and 2 sons were in the Navy. > My brother spent 30 years in the Air Force and 25 years with the Veterans Administration. After 50 years, they gave him a diamond pin for his service to the government. I told him it was a Woolworth diamond. I hope everyone remembers Woolworth. The very day they were to present him with an award and the pin, he fell and his face was so bruised, the nurses got their make up kits out and fixed him up so you couldn't see his bruises for his photograph. I tease him about that, too. He came back to a flooded home after Katrina and never went back to work. He's 88 now and can barely walk, so I think he is officially retired. > Hands & hearts, > Lottie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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