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Yes, I noticed that with the shaving. I bled easier and longer.   I also noticed

I nicked myself easier, and I remember remember merely scraping the top of my

hand. It left a big scar, a mere scrap, that has never gone away.  I jammed

my thumb and my thumbnail turned blue.  It took  months for my nail to grow

through it. 

 

 But that's not just as to men.  What is applicable to men also, maybe, but I

can't be sure, of course, about other men with the onset of CML, but in

retrospect I have a pretty good idea when my CML " burst forth " by the waning of

my libido at the time of that onset.  The difference was sudden and dramatic. 

With CML  being controlled by Gleevec, the libido, such as it is, has come back

to some degree--but, of course, I'm also two years older.

 

From: mtmaynor@... <mtmaynor@...>

Subject: [ ] For the Men

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:35 PM

 

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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Matt, you are too funny. I have bleeding problems, too, but on my

legs, so i only have them waxed. I never put a razor to my body!.

On Aug 26, 2009, at 6:35 PM, mtmaynor@... wrote:

>

> I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

>

> can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

>

> to discuss is ......SHAVING.

>

> When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

>

> more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

>

> previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

>

> creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

>

> irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

>

> Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

>

> will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

>

> what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

>

> The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

>

> 's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

>

> and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

>

> onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

>

> burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

>

> about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

>

> department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

>

> cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

>

> that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

>

> will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

>

> best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

>

> described.

>

> It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

>

> legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

>

> In service to CML Men,

>

> Matt

>

> Florida

>

>

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Matt

I too have had the problem with shaving with the legs of course.

I use hair conditioner the cheap stuff. Not the Nixon I use on my head to

promote hair growth.

I may try your brand

Anita

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From: " mtmaynor@... " <mtmaynor@...>

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:35:25 PM

Subject: [ ] For the Men

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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Yes to both issues:

Shaving hair on legs--lots more nicks and bleeding but better since platelets

are up.

Libido--dimished considerably since CML. It may not be only a male problem.

Rhonda

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[ ] For the Men

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:35 PM

 

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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Libido I have heard not from doc that Gleevec reduces both libido and semen.I am

5 years on 600 Gleevec and am a different man now.The good part no trouble with

the wife.We are senior citizens so maybe I'm on the other side.Hard to compare

what is the norm. I'm glad to be alive

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From: Ted Fontenot <mortycausa@...>

Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 5:49:21 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] For the Men

 

Yes, I noticed that with the shaving. I bled easier and longer.   I also noticed

I nicked myself easier, and I remember remember merely scraping the top of my

hand. It left a big scar, a mere scrap, that has never gone away.  I jammed

my thumb and my thumbnail turned blue.  It took  months for my nail to grow

through it. 

 

 But that's not just as to men.  What is applicable to men also, maybe, but I

can't be sure, of course, about other men with the onset of CML, but in

retrospect I have a pretty good idea when my CML " burst forth " by the waning of

my libido at the time of that onset.  The difference was sudden and dramatic. 

With CML  being controlled by Gleevec, the libido, such as it is, has come back

to some degree--but, of course, I'm also two years older.

 

From: mtmaynoraol (DOT) com <mtmaynoraol (DOT) com>

Subject: [ ] For the Men

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:35 PM

 

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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wow Matt- I'd stay out of Canada for awhile.  We have sun all year in

Cali...I'll be trying the cream

From: mtmaynor@... <mtmaynor@...>

Subject: [ ] For the Men

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 3:35 PM

 

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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I've talked to T from Canada about this but since everyone opened the door.  I

can't speak for men but I think for women all of the body changes do a dance on

us emotionally and that impacts our libido.  I feel like I woke up in someone

else's body. The chemistry is still there but I am less likely - okay 2.5 years

later...to act on it.

There really are no secrets here-lol. 

From: mtmaynor@... <mtmaynor@...>

Subject: [ ] For the Men

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:35 PM

 

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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I have noticed that scrapes and cuts don't heal also. I mean... they stop

bleeding... but a simple cut turns into a scar rather than healing and going

away. I cringe when I do cut myself, because I know I will be able to see it

forever! I bruise much easier too.

Tammy

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From: china neal [mailto:chimera46@...]

Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 1:25 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] For the Men

I've talked to T from Canada about this but since everyone opened the door.

I can't speak for men but I think for women all of the body changes do a

dance on us emotionally and that impacts our libido. I feel like I woke up

in someone else's body. The chemistry is still there but I am less likely -

okay 2.5 years later...to act on it.

There really are no secrets here-lol.

From: mtmaynoraol (DOT) <mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> com <mtmaynoraol (DOT)

<mailto:mtmaynor%40aol.com> com>

Subject: [ ] For the Men

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 5:35 PM

I figure if women can talk about girly things and cycles, we

can talk about some male topics as well.? The issue I want

to discuss is ......SHAVING.

When I first began to take Gleevec, I noticed my skin was

more sensitive and I would bleed more profusely than I did

previously.? I began to experiment with different shaving

creams and razors to try and reduce the bleeding and

irritation.? After numerous trials, I began to use the Fusion

Razor (which?are expensive as heck), although other razors

will probably suffice (they are all expensive as heck), but

what I found makes the most difference is shaving creams.

The two I liked best were Osmotics Ultra Shave Butter and

's Shave Cream.? Both come in large lotion type containers

and you apply about a cashew size on your palm and smooth

onto your already wet wiskers.? The shave is close and razor

burn, nicks and cuts are unheard of.? Each tube will last

about a month and you can usually find one of them in upscael

department stores, although you have to find them in the girly

cosmetic section.? I usually get mine from a store calle Sephora

that also does a lot of events for our North Florida LLS.? They

will even give you a number of samples to try to see what is

best for your beard.? They have more than just the ones I

described.

It even works for you Canadian women who only shave your

legs in the spring, after you dig out of the snow.

In service to CML Men,

Matt

Florida

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