Bob

[Guest guest]

HI BOB, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A BOARD FOR PEOPLE WITH PACEMAKER'S? MY SISTER WAS WONDERING.

THANKS

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

How was the lemonade? I like mine really sweet. Kind words really sweeten things for me.

I have the heart failure but not the diabetese. Sugar isn't a problem with heart failure is it? I sure hope not. I don't drink lemonade but I sure do like my tea sweet.

You do have a way with words and I just enjoy watching your messages come in. You sound so much perkier than when I first came on here. You must be feeling much better. Do you have trouble going uphill. When I walk with someone, I can't keep up pace with the average person and if there is a small upgrade, I call it cardiac hill and people just laugh at me but it sure doesn't take much of an incline to put me out of breath. How about you? But if I walk of flat surface and go slow, I can go pretty far, maybe 1/2 mile. How does it compare with your walking?

Ruth in PA

ATTENTION ARDEN R. PECK

Your computer is still spewing out that miserable virus.

Please visit this site

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876@...

to find out how destructive this particular virus can be.

I, for one do not want this virus continually being sent to me. I'm sure others feel the same way.

If you do not know how to eradicate the said virus from your computer please get advice from your computer supplier, technician or a knowledgeable friend. I'm sure you do not want to be sending this particular monster over the internet. However only you can stop its transmission from your machine. The rest of are helpless. Thank goodness for virus scanning programs!

Thanks for you cooperation.

Allan

Wiarton Willie country

Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

hi ruth,

thank you for the kind words as well. i honest to god dont understand what is going on with me. i feel better and better everyday. even the doc called me yesterday to tell my blood work looks better than it has in years.

i go to that hospital rehab three days a week and they increase my resistance every week and i have no trouble with it. and at home i have this treadmill and i hooked it up with ifit.com and they customized an 8 week workout for me that i do the other 3 days a week. i take one day and relax.

i asked the doctor why i am doing so well with an ejection fraction of 10. he said that is a medical mystery and has not solved by science yet.

on the treadmill im doing half mile segments at 2.5 mph on a grade of six percent.

our boat ramp is probably a 15 to 18 % grade and i can walk to the top of it, then stop for a minute before i walk the last 50feet to my truck. i often take my golf cart to the lake so i can park right by the dock and not have to walk the boat ramp. but i do make sure i walk that ramp several times a week.

ive never added salt to my food and now i read labels. i found a sugar substitute called splenda that is better than real sugar i think. i need to get the diet thing under control here. and so far im failing at it.

as far as my attitude i can attribute to the people in the zapper. they pulled right out of the big hole i was digging for myself. i thought i was a dead man, but now im going to go out kicking and screaming.

keep making lemonade,

bob in pa

-- Re: Bob

Hi Bob,

How was the lemonade? I like mine really sweet. Kind words really sweeten things for me.

I have the heart failure but not the diabetese. Sugar isn't a problem with heart failure is it? I sure hope not. I don't drink lemonade but I sure do like my tea sweet.

You do have a way with words and I just enjoy watching your messages come in. You sound so much perkier than when I first came on here. You must be feeling much better. Do you have trouble going uphill. When I walk with someone, I can't keep up pace with the average person and if there is a small upgrade, I call it cardiac hill and people just laugh at me but it sure doesn't take much of an incline to put me out of breath. How about you? But if I walk of flat surface and go slow, I can go pretty far, maybe 1/2 mile. How does it compare with your walking?

Ruth in PA

ATTENTION ARDEN R. PECK

Your computer is still spewing out that miserable virus.

Please visit this site

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876@...

to find out how destructive this particular virus can be.

I, for one do not want this virus continually being sent to me. I'm sure others feel the same way.

If you do not know how to eradicate the said virus from your computer please get advice from your computer supplier, technician or a knowledgeable friend. I'm sure you do not want to be sending this particular monster over the internet. However only you can stop its transmission from your machine. The rest of are helpless. Thank goodness for virus scanning programs!

Thanks for you cooperation.

Allan

Wiarton Willie country

Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Hey bob, are you on the instant message list and if so what is your name on there?

Ruth in PA

ATTENTION ARDEN R. PECK

Your computer is still spewing out that miserable virus.

Please visit this site

http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.magistr.24876@...

to find out how destructive this particular virus can be.

I, for one do not want this virus continually being sent to me. I'm sure others feel the same way.

If you do not know how to eradicate the said virus from your computer please get advice from your computer supplier, technician or a knowledgeable friend. I'm sure you do not want to be sending this particular monster over the internet. However only you can stop its transmission from your machine. The rest of are helpless. Thank goodness for virus scanning programs!

Thanks for you cooperation.

Allan

Wiarton Willie country

Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

That's great that you are now feeling so well. My blood work recently showed my cholesteral and trygicerides are worse than they have ever been. And now I watch what I eat, not perfectly, but much better than I use to. I watch labels too and I take lipitor, so he doubled the lipitor.

I did rehab at the hospital twice now and got a treadmill but haven't been walking on it lately. My legs get cramps a lot and the doctor doesn't seem to know what it is. He told me to take it easy a while to see if it gets better. They took blood work to see if the lipitor was breaking down the muscles but they said it wasn't. When I do the treadmill, I can go about 25 min. at 1.9. Can't go much faster than that and I can't do a grade at all.

I have a scooter I use once in a while if I'm going to do a whole lot of walking. I can still do a lot of things though and am very thankful for that. Just have to go slow. Boy after going through some of this stuff we go through, it sure makes you appreciate every little thing more, doesn't it.

My ejection fraction is around 25%. I have stamina but I just can't go fast.

With your diet, what are you failing at, the fat or the sugar? You've got a double blow if you have diabetes too. These zapper people have been great for me too. I have learned so much on here.

Nice talking to you,

Ruth in PA

Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

hi lisa,,,

actually i was more lauging at me than you.....i speak the truth....guess

im about a 54 double J

bob in pa

At 11:37 PM 6/13/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Bob are you making fun of me.....this was for WOMEN only dude. LOL Knew

>that with a subject line like that one that some of you men would be just

>too curious to avoid it.

>

>

> Re: WEMON ONLY

>

>

> >

> > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right one,,,,,,oops,,,,i

> > think someone already said that.....

> >

> > bob in pa

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still swollen. I

>was

> > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol

> > >Suzanne

> > >

> > >

> > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > >http://www.ZapLife.org

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I hate to say this but now you have me laughing at you too!!!

Mine aren't bigger they just hang longer thanks to not being able to

tolerate a bra for soo many weeks after surgery. LOL I know age does this

too but come on, not this early!!!

.....still chuckling

Re: WEMON ONLY

> >

> >

> > >

> > > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right

one,,,,,,oops,,,,i

> > > think someone already said that.....

> > >

> > > bob in pa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> > > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still

swollen. I

> >was

> > > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol

> > > >Suzanne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > >http://www.ZapLife.org

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

well,,,how bout this one.....several years ago while taking a shower i

noticed a lump on the left side of my chest.....imagine how horrified i was

when the doc scheduled me for a mammogram...

puh. leeeeeze

when i arrived for my appointment , there i was in the waiting room with

about 20 women...i never did bother to ask what they were chuckling about

when the nurse said.....come for your mammogram now mr snyder.... i wanted

to crawl in to the room....

oh,,,and i didnt like it.....i bet not many women enjoy it either.. hahahaha

bob in pa

At 07:55 PM 6/14/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>I hate to say this but now you have me laughing at you too!!!

>

>Mine aren't bigger they just hang longer thanks to not being able to

>tolerate a bra for soo many weeks after surgery. LOL I know age does this

>too but come on, not this early!!!

>

>.....still chuckling

>

> Re: WEMON ONLY

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right

>one,,,,,,oops,,,,i

> > > > think someone already said that.....

> > > >

> > > > bob in pa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> > > > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still

>swollen. I

> > >was

> > > > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol

> > > > >Suzanne

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > > >http://www.ZapLife.org

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

They say that a man invented the machine to do the mammogram. Kind of cruel punishment don't you think?

Gail

Re: WEMON ONLY> > >> > >> > > >> > > > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right>one,,,,,,oops,,,,i> > > > think someone already said that.....> > > >> > > > bob in pa> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:> > > > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still>swollen. I> > >was> > > > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol> > > > >Suzanne> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at> > > > >http://www.ZapLife.org> > > > >> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Bob.....

> oh,,,and i didnt like it.....i bet not many women enjoy it either..

> hahahaha

You got that right. Just imagine a technician taking yer.... uh...

well.... lower man parts.... and smashing them

between two heavy plates.... up and down.... and then sideways. Oh, and

they have to get them all into the

plates, so the tech will pull the skin off yer bottom to make 'em

stretch......

I had one mammygram at age 40... the baseline. Well, doctor, hope you

liked that picture..... 'cause it's the

last one you'll have of ME!

Sue (it wasn't her fault, but i almost punched that tech in her 'Oh

this isn't that bad' face)

[Guest guest]

Stacie....

>

> dan dan na sports bra

Oh good lord. If i wore one of those, everyone would think i was a

guy! It's only thru the Grace of Walmart Padded Bras that they know

i'm really a girl.

So what's up with you, girl friend? Are you off the surgery list? And

how's yer daddy doing?

Sue

[Guest guest]

dan dan na sports bra

stacie,18 lol

Re: Bob

I hate to say this but now you have me laughing at you too!!!

Mine aren't bigger they just hang longer thanks to not being able to

tolerate a bra for soo many weeks after surgery. LOL I know age does this

too but come on, not this early!!!

.....still chuckling

Re: WEMON ONLY

> >

> >

> > >

> > > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right

one,,,,,,oops,,,,i

> > > think someone already said that.....

> > >

> > > bob in pa

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> > > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still

swollen. I

> >was

> > > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol

> > > >Suzanne

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > >http://www.ZapLife.org

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

nope not yet got to see another doctor before i can get off this doctor i

was ready to kick where well we all know where don't we???? he was rude said

i scared a perfect stat line thats pulling a part and gup comeing out of it

ugggggh why in the world would i do that ??? i did not tuch it it just

started coming open

what this doctor dont know is i know the owner of the hospital i can have

his jb and trust me this guy if i told him this doctor was a bad one they

would thorw him out that day but i will be nice for now

stacie,18 ( rubbing hand together for the chance to tell this guy off)

Re: Bob

Stacie....

>

> dan dan na sports bra

Oh good lord. If i wore one of those, everyone would think i was a

guy! It's only thru the Grace of Walmart Padded Bras that they know

i'm really a girl.

So what's up with you, girl friend? Are you off the surgery list? And

how's yer daddy doing?

Sue

Please visit the Zapper homepage at

http://www.ZapLife.org

[Guest guest]

EASY BOYS THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT WOMEN STUFF!......

>From: " " <Scrapnfriend@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: Bob

>Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:55:02 -0700

>

>I hate to say this but now you have me laughing at you too!!!

>

>Mine aren't bigger they just hang longer thanks to not being able to

>tolerate a bra for soo many weeks after surgery. LOL I know age does this

>too but come on, not this early!!!

>

>.....still chuckling

>

> Re: WEMON ONLY

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > geeeeez,,,, my left one is still smaller than my right

>one,,,,,,oops,,,,i

> > > > think someone already said that.....

> > > >

> > > > bob in pa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > At 08:25 PM 6/13/2002 -0400, you wrote:

> > > > >Hey Stacie... I only have had mine for two weeks and its still

>swollen. I

> > >was

> > > > >wondering the same thing does it go down...lol

> > > > >Suzanne

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> > > > >http://www.ZapLife.org

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

Yeppers thats what I meant. When you send a message it goes to all the

people on the list and if any happen to be on line and want to chat then

they can contact you! Take care now and be PAIN FREE! Love Y'as!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

oops! I also forgot to tell you that these messages only go to people who

are listed on the group list so you don't have to worry about the weirdos

except on Halloween, LOL, then we all come out of the woodwork, LOL!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Carmen:

I was not talking about Instant Messages that you should

accept. If you receive one from someone you know by all means accept it6 but

if you don't know the person just delete them like I do. What I was talking

about was all of the messages that are on THIS support group line are from

members of the Stills group and yopu shouldn't be afraid to accept or read

any of them as they have been checked for virus' and for being weirdo's so

they are safe to read. That is another reason that you never see an

attachment on this list as they are not allowed because they may carry a

virus. What I did say is that if you see someone that you know on YOUR buddy

list don't hesitate to contact them. Or also if you send a message out to

this list asking for someone to talk to you will also be safe. If this is

still not clear let me know and I will try again. Always willing to help!.

Take care now and be PAIN FREE!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Carmen:

I was not talking about Instant Messages that you should

accept. If you receive one from someone you know by all means accept it6 but

if you don't know the person just delete them like I do. What I was talking

about was all of the messages that are on THIS support group line are from

members of the Stills group and yopu shouldn't be afraid to accept or read

any of them as they have been checked for virus' and for being weirdo's so

they are safe to read. That is another reason that you never see an

attachment on this list as they are not allowed because they may carry a

virus. What I did say is that if you see someone that you know on YOUR buddy

list don't hesitate to contact them. Or also if you send a message out to

this list asking for someone to talk to you will also be safe. If this is

still not clear let me know and I will try again. Always willing to help!.

Take care now and be PAIN FREE!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Carmen:

I would be glad to direct you in the right direction.

First go to our web site as listed below. Then scroll down a little ways and

you will see an icon that reads DONATION PROGRAM, click on that ICON and it

will take you to a list of all the stores that you can buy from that

participate in the donation program. It's as easy as that. Have fun and

enjoy yourself. Take care now and be PAIN FREE! Love Ya!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Bob,

I never knew all that about you and your daughter...I was really sad when I

read your email to Judy. Your daughter was really lucky to have you and

Carole as parents and I'm sure she was as special as you two obviously are.

Just wanted to send you my thoughts...

[Guest guest]

Thank you Sweetie!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Panama City, Florida

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at:

www.stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Oh Bob, I didn't know that you had it yesterday. I cannot believe that you

are up and running already. Be careful friend. Remember how much we love

you and care. Be on the road to " no pain " now..do you hear me? I love you

both. With good well wishes for a very fast recovery.

Love, Sue #2

-- Re: Re: Brochures! um...excuse me...

Dear Concerned:

Yes, I had surgery yesterday but I am a quick

recoverer. I would go nuts if I had to stay in bed or something like that. I

really do appreciate the concern though. That's why I love all of my

Stilligans. Take care now and be PAIN FREE! Love Y'all!

We Will Win

Love Y'all

Mom & Dad

Bob & Carole

Panama City, Florida

Please Visit the International Stills Disease Foundation Web Site at: www

stillsdisease.org

[Guest guest]

Hi Carmen:

What program are you running? Is it windows 95, 98, 2000, ME, XP Home or XPO Pro?

WE WILL WIN

Bob & Carole

Mom & Dad

Panama City, FL

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/15/2003 8:42:35 AM Mountain Daylight Time, truelori@... writes:

You had posted some links from Sharla Race and Sue Dengate, as well as coopbookshop and dymocks (at least they appear in your post) I can't get any of those links to work, even when I type in the URLs.

Lori,

Go to http://tigmor.com/food/library/articles/bookrev.htm and look under Friendly Food and the Dymock's link is there. Go to Sue Dengate's site indexFedUp and there are links there to order her books, including FedUp with Asthma.

anyway you said re: the studies at Scripps that "people with more severe disease may not respond to dietary changes." However, this was not a test of dietary changes. These were challenges to specific substances such as MSG and sulfites. And in those challenges they did not find any reactions whatsoever, symptomatically or in cell markers in blood or urine

I am sure the studies from Scripps are helpful. But for the reasons I posted already, I still am not convinced that diet and or lifestyle is not a factor. I have another reason to believe this. I recently fasted for 3 weeks (distilled water, no food). I lost 22 lbs, which is exactly waht is predicted by people who are expert in fasting (about 1 lb per day of fast). My sense of smell came back for the first time in 26 years (on the 12 th day of the fast) without using any drugs. And I had it for about 3 weeks. It left after about 2 weeks of eating.

I think it's possible that people (including myself) may benefit from low salicylate diets. I'm just saying that I have no idea what a low salicylate diet is, because the information is so confusing and contradictory. And in addition to that, I don't see how you can get all the nutrients you need from a low salicylate diet, because it seems every vegetable and fruit is on the list.

Thanks

Lori

Have a look at the papers I cited, you could get them through interlibrary loan. Legumes, grains and rice are all allowed. As are many dairy products that are zero or very low.. So is celery and green cabbage. And there are other fruits and vegatables that are low, but not zero. I think you may have to take a vitamin C supplement while on a low salicylate diet. Probably crystals is best, because they are so pure. I agree, there is confusing and contradictory information.

Good luck,

Bob

[Guest guest]

Dearest Bob,

thank you also for just caring and the up-lifting words that you wrote to me

I miss you all so much, that it just hurts to not be able to communicate

daily. I am lost without this group and when I cannot talk to you and keep

up, it can become depressing, and this is what a support group is all about.

I just love it here and have such a wonderful second family, that it helps

me through my day. It gives me reason to live and hold hope, that you just

want to give something back. I never would of made it this far today,

without the help, and love of this support group, and I owe it to every

individual here whom has made that possible for me. It is such a

wonderful place to be. I love you Bob & Carole and I absolutely cannot

wait to see you again in September. I am counting down the days until we

can hug and cry together again. Thank you again, both of you.

Love.Sue #2

-- My Birthday!

Hi Gang:

Thank Y'all for the good wishes for my Birthday, however I would

like to correct one discrepancy which is I am 66 not 65.

Sue #2 my sweet child please get all those bad ideas out of your head and

start remembering that we Love you and it doesn't matter that you don't keep

contact with us that often as long as you are all right. That is the main

thing that that we worry about. But you rest assured that we are behind you

100%. You get your butt to your Doctor ASAP and get some help. If you don't

get any rest then your stress level increases and your pain level increases

so you need that rest. You are going to have to make some time for your self

You may have to start working part time instead of full time whether you

like it or not. You just can't go on like this. It is not good for you nor

your Family. Have you discussed this with your Mom and Dad? I am sure they

would want you to get well and if it takes cutting down on your working they

would support your decision and help all they could! Sweetie, just remember

that we all Love You and want you well. Take care now and be PAIN FREE! We

LOVE YOU!

WE WILL WIN

Love Y'all

Bob & Carole

Mom & Dad

Panama City, FL

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same reasons!

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