Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Dear Terri, The transplant center suggests Randy get a flu shot each year as well as all of us who live in the house with him. The less chance he will have it and the less chance we will give it to him. But check with your doctor of course.. Each may have a different reason on why you should or should not take the flu shot. He also took the pneumonia shot which is good for 5 years. Take care, Cheryl & Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 In a message dated 11/15/01 7:19:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, TerriMM@... writes: Just curious, should AIH sufferers take the flu shot? I usually do not get a flu shot as I seem to always have a reaction to anything "injected". Had a bad reaction many years ago to the "swine flu" shot - also had a bad reaction to Kenalog - so I avoid shots as much as possible. But, I'm wondering with AIH, if getting the flu would be more dangerous. I will ask my doctor, but just wanted to hear what everyone else's experiences are. Also, I mentioned this before and some have answered about the email digest repeating messages. Is there anyway to contact and let them know - I can't find any info on how to directly contact them and let them know about this problem. Hope everyone has a great day. Terri NV People with AIH absolutely must get the flu shot. (Also, get Hepatitis A and B vaccine.) Our immune system is compromised, especially due to the Imuran treatment. When flu shots are in short supply, we are in the highest-eligibility group. Last year my doctor found there were five shots left at my large HMO. She made sure I got one of the five, not because I was cute but because of my disease. I kept saying that I didn't feel very bad and shouldn't take one of those five shots, but she said I would be in bad shape if I were exposed to flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 In a message dated 11/15/01 9:11:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, jeanette_cuk@... writes: Hi My doctor had my flu shot waiting for me when I got in the surgery I never had a choice. I have had no problems with it, he said I had to make sure I got one as soon as they were available every year. Jeanette UK flatcat9@... wrote: Jeanette, your previous message (now deleted) said Cirrhosis 2001. Sorry to hear about that. Harper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Hi Terri, I have AIH and last year when I was in the hospital for kidney stones, they gave me a flu shot right before I left. It had no effect on me and they told me that they'd want me to be sure I did it every year. Just my experience! Philadelphia, PA >From: TerriMM@... >Reply- > >Subject: [ ] Flu Shot? >Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 15:17:49 -0000 > >Just curious, should AIH sufferers take the flu shot? > >I usually do not get a flu shot as I seem to always have a >reaction to anything " injected " . Had a bad reaction many >years ago to the " swine flu " shot - also had a bad reaction >to Kenalog - so I avoid shots as much as possible. > >But, I'm wondering with AIH, if getting the flu would be >more dangerous. I will ask my doctor, but just wanted to >hear what everyone else's experiences are. > >Also, I mentioned this before and some have answered about >the email digest repeating messages. Is there anyway to >contact and let them know - I can't find any info on how to >directly contact them and let them know about this problem. > >Hope everyone has a great day. > >Terri >NV > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Hi My doctor had my flu shot waiting for me when I got in the surgery I never had a choice. I have had no problems with it, he said I had to make sure I got one as soon as they were available every year. Jeanette UK flatcat9@... wrote: In a message dated 11/15/01 7:19:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, TerriMM@... writes: Just curious, should AIH sufferers take the flu shot? I usually do not get a flu shot as I seem to always have a reaction to anything "injected". Had a bad reaction many years ago to the "swine flu" shot - also had a bad reaction to Kenalog - so I avoid shots as much as possible. But, I'm wondering with AIH, if getting the flu would be more dangerous. I will ask my doctor, but just wanted to hear what everyone else's experiences are. Also, I mentioned this before and some have answered about the email digest repeating messages. Is there anyway to contact and let them know - I can't find any info on how to directly contact them and let them know about this problem. Hope everyone has a great day. Terri NVPeople with AIH absolutely must get the flu shot. (Also, get Hepatitis A and B vaccine.) Our immune system is compromised, especially due to the Imuran treatment. When flu shots are in short supply, we are in the highest-eligibility group. Last year my doctor found there were five shots left at my large HMO. She made sure I got one of the five, not because I was cute but because of my disease. I kept saying that I didn't feel very bad and shouldn't take one of those five shots, but she said I would be in bad shape if I were exposed to flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2001 Report Share Posted November 15, 2001 Hi Terri: My son (has AIH) had one just a couple of weeks ago and was fine with it. aumesh ------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 Cheryl, Interesting, we recently had a transplant education forum and the tx surgeons liver, kidney, heart & lung, said absolutly not. Then I have heard differently. It makes the issue so complicated. My Dr, says no, I have not had so much as a sniffle for the past four years since the transplant, he says leave well enough alone. Patty aih 1980, tx 1998 -----Original Message-----From: cheryl722@... [mailto:cheryl722@...]Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Flu Shot?Dear Terri, The transplant center suggests Randy get a flu shot each year as well as all of us who live in the house with him. The less chance he will have it and the less chance we will give it to him. But check with your doctor of course.. Each may have a different reason on why you should or should not take the flu shot. He also took the pneumonia shot which is good for 5 years. Take care, Cheryl & Randy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2001 Report Share Posted November 16, 2001 I did have to have hep A & B before the transplant Patty -----Original Message-----From: flatcat9@... [mailto:flatcat9@...]Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ ] Flu Shot?In a message dated 11/15/01 7:19:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, TerriMM@... writes: Just curious, should AIH sufferers take the flu shot? I usually do not get a flu shot as I seem to always have a reaction to anything "injected". Had a bad reaction many years ago to the "swine flu" shot - also had a bad reaction to Kenalog - so I avoid shots as much as possible. But, I'm wondering with AIH, if getting the flu would be more dangerous. I will ask my doctor, but just wanted to hear what everyone else's experiences are. Also, I mentioned this before and some have answered about the email digest repeating messages. Is there anyway to contact and let them know - I can't find any info on how to directly contact them and let them know about this problem. Hope everyone has a great day. Terri NVPeople with AIH absolutely must get the flu shot. (Also, get Hepatitis A and B vaccine.) Our immune system is compromised, especially due to the Imuran treatment. When flu shots are in short supply, we are in the highest-eligibility group. Last year my doctor found there were five shots left at my large HMO. She made sure I got one of the five, not because I was cute but because of my disease. I kept saying that I didn't feel very bad and shouldn't take one of those five shots, but she said I would be in bad shape if I were exposed to flu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Flu shots still contain themerisol!!! [ ] Flu shot? Is there anyone out there who can give me pros and cons to giving my son a flu shot at 27 months old. We have surgery scheduled in Dec. and would like to avoid any possible sickness. With two play groups a week and two speech therapy sessions plus grocery shopping this is next to impossible. Any suggestions or thoughts out there? Tammy - Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Tammy, All flu shots still contain Thimerosal (mercury)! Read the package insert yourself. The doctors think Thimerosal has been removed from all vaccines, but the flu shot is not exclusively a childhood vaccine and thimerosal is still in all flu shots. I'll forward the 2003 chart of thimerosal content in US vaccines to you so you can review it. KIM [ ] Flu shot? > Is there anyone out there who can give me pros and cons to giving my son a > flu shot at 27 months old. > > We have surgery scheduled in Dec. and would like to avoid any possible > sickness. With two play groups a week and two speech therapy sessions plus > grocery shopping this is next to impossible. Any suggestions or thoughts out > there? > > Tammy - Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 27, 2003 Report Share Posted October 27, 2003 Here's a pro. My daughters and I have asthma. The girls almost died of RSV when they were little. They are at high risk for complications due to flu, so every year we get the flu shot. We've never had any complications. > Is there anyone out there who can give me pros and cons to giving my son a > flu shot at 27 months old. > > We have surgery scheduled in Dec. and would like to avoid any possible > sickness. With two play groups a week and two speech therapy sessions plus > grocery shopping this is next to impossible. Any suggestions or thoughts out > there? > > Tammy - Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 I think this is a relatively recent thing. The first time, my pediatrician mentioned it was a year or two ago. This year it is available not only in the injection form but you can breathe it in (although our insurance only pays for the injection form). My pediatrician was really pushing it at my visit a couple of weeks ago and I said let me think about it. Any imput is welcomed. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 deborah not only do they consider this shot routine, but they reccommend it for PREGNANT women too. add in some more mercury why don't you. i know they are really pushing the shots this year. they are doing the shots even in supermarkets for free or for a nominal sum. and the people are swearing by it and lining up like crazy. i had the flu 2x last year and as bad as i felt i would still not get the shot this year. no thank you. lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Well you know about the Thimerosal. Last year I had my 6-month-old daughter get the flu shot. (2 shots are done a month apart when it is their first time). I did her because she has kidney reflux and we were struggling with FFT with her so we didn't want her to get sick and loss her already horrible appetite. She was the only one who wasn't sick for 2 weeks with the flu. This year everyone one is getting the flu shot EXCEPT my Apraxic child. For two reasons, I think some children are more susceptible to the effects of Thimerosal and because is almost traumatized by injections. The `flu-mist' is the live virus and insurance doesn't cover ($90) so this isn't an option for us. Take Care, Heidi – SAHM to 8, 5 (apraxia, DSI) 18 months (VUR, Plagiocephaly, Torticollis, Low weight –5%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Hi Goodness I'm curious ! Is this a USA thing or do i mix in weird circles and live in a strange part ofthe UK ? I don't know of anyone under the age of 70 who would consider getting a flu shot unless there was a really strong suggestion from a Dr to do so. And no mums of healthy kids. Is this something that moms have to contemplate each year ? Is it common to have this jab - just routine people ? Just curious Regards Deborah Just read that back - I realise that those who wrote have particular medical reason to consider this - its just that the tone seems to suggest that it is really common - or did I read that wrong? because- umm - not if they held a gun to my head ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 THanks Deborah! It is so hard to want to do the right thing for your child and at the same time have your doctor act like it is just a matter of course. I think we will pass this year. carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Hi carolyn, unless there was a serious pre-indicator suggesting that a child would be under unusual and serious threat from the 'flu I would not get my child injected. It actually seems like a really strange thing to do for me as it is simply not something I have ever heard of. thimerosal does not show any adverse reaction but has a serious - and a highly cumulative - effect. Without the ingredients i couldn't comment on the inhaleable version - but without the ingredients I certainly wouldn't accept it either. ( Do Pead's 'over there' get any finacial benefit if these are taken by their patients? Is that we we don't seem to need them in the uK - because no-one would make any money ?) Regards Deborah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Although FluMist doesn't say Thimerosal free, the pamplet does say " FluMist does not contain any preservatives. " They have a website www.flumist.com or 1-800-Flumist. But it is live virus and only recommended for Healthy people 5-49 years of age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2003 Report Share Posted October 28, 2003 Hi Lori, I didn't know mercury caused problems in adults. I thought it was only young children. kinda like lead. Although I think it is a mistake for pregnant women to get it I am worried about the unborn baby not mom. THanks Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Hi ....and I would be concerned about mom then breastfeeding too. Mercury is the second most toxic substance on the planet so injecting it into anyone gives them a risk ......... Deborah , " heidi_mom_to3 " <heidi_mom_to3@y...> wrote: > Hi Lori, > I didn't know mercury caused problems in adults. I thought it was > only young children. kinda like lead. > Although I think it is a mistake for pregnant women to get it I am > worried about the unborn baby not mom. > THanks > Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 Hi Deborah Your post made me laugh ....no - you do not live in a strange part of the UK. I think the only public info we get on the flu jabs at this time of year is for ALL pensioners plus all those with respiritory weaknesses - kids & adults alike. Can you imagine our cash strapped NHS jabbing the entire population en masse ? I seriously wonder if the promotion of the flu jabs overseas is 'commission' driven rather than a serious need for them ( outside the elderly etc as mentioned above) ? With Love Gin Barnet, UK " beaniesmum2001 " wrote: > Hi > Goodness I'm curious ! > Is this a USA thing or do i mix in weird circles and live in a > strange part ofthe UK ? > I don't know of anyone under the age of 70 who would consider getting > a flu shot unless there was a really strong suggestion from a Dr to > do so. And no mums of healthy kids. Is this something that moms have > to contemplate each year ? Is it common to have this jab - just > routine people ? > Just curious > Regards > Deborah > Just read that back - I realise that those who wrote have particular > medical reason to consider this - its just that the tone seems to > suggest that it is really common - or did I read that wrong? > because- umm - not if they held a gun to my head ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 We just got our October School Newsletter (elementary school) and there was a little article from the school nurse that says the following: The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that all children ages 6 months and older receive the flu vaccine. It especially recommends it for those children in the high-risk group, that is, those children with airway disease and those who use inhalers (as well as other chronic diseases). It is advisable to call your pediatrician's office to discuss this and make an appointment before there is an outbreak of the flu in our area. The reason I am posting this, is because I didn't realize that it was recommended this highly for everyone. I thought it was just for the elderly and people with chronic diseases as she mentioned. FYI! Liz Dunn (NJ USA) beaniesmum2001 wrote: > Hi > Goodness I'm curious ! > Is this a USA thing or do i mix in weird circles and live in a > strange part ofthe UK ? > I don't know of anyone under the age of 70 who would consider getting > a flu shot unless there was a really strong suggestion from a Dr to > do so. And no mums of healthy kids. Is this something that moms have > to contemplate each year ? Is it common to have this jab - just > routine people ? > Just curious > Regards > Deborah > Just read that back - I realise that those who wrote have particular > medical reason to consider this - its just that the tone seems to > suggest that it is really common - or did I read that wrong? > because- umm - not if they held a gun to my head ! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 If what they said in the school newsletter is true, then I think it must be new. To the best of my knowledge, last year was the first year that the AAP recommended flu shots for children with underlying medical conditions. I remember this, because I discussed it with my pediatrician because though my son has a seizure disorder, that was not listed as one of the " conditions " that would warrant receiving the vaccine. We did decide to give it to him, and will do so again this year. Our pediatrician said that the vaccines that they have in our pediatrics department are thimerisol-free, as opposed to the ones that are used in adults and in the larger " flu shot clinics " . This is only my understanding of this...I could be wrong. > We just got our October School Newsletter (elementary school) and there > was a little article from the school nurse that says the following: > > The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that all children ages 6 > months and older receive the flu vaccine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 My daughters have always received the flu shot because of asthma, and because they almost died of RSV when they were infants. The doctors have also recommended that the whole family get it because vaccines can fail, and it reduced the possibility that my daughters would get it. Last year, my son and I didn't get it. My husband didn't want my son to get it, and I just forgot until it was too late. My son got the flu and missed over a week of school and had a high fever for 5 days. He went back to school after a week off, but he still wasn't himself for a while. He had sooooo much make-up work. I got the flu after my son, and I called my doctor and got medication that helps reduce flu symptoms after you get flu. I knew my son had it, so I took the medication immediately when I got sick. It helped. I had a low fever for a few days, and I never got very sick. This year, we are all going to get the flu shot, especially with SARS around. Respiratory illnesses scare me because I almost lost my daughters to a simple respiratory illness. Suzi > We just got our October School Newsletter (elementary school) and there > was a little article from the school nurse that says the following: > > The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that all children ages 6 > months and older receive the flu vaccine. It especially recommends it > for those children in the high-risk group, that is, those children with > airway disease and those who use inhalers (as well as other chronic > diseases). It is advisable to call your pediatrician's office to > discuss this and make an appointment before there is an outbreak of the > flu in our area. > > The reason I am posting this, is because I didn't realize that it was > recommended this highly for everyone. I thought it was just for the > elderly and people with chronic diseases as she mentioned. > > FYI! > Liz Dunn (NJ USA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 29, 2003 Report Share Posted October 29, 2003 If what they said in the school newsletter is true, then I think it must be new. To the best of my knowledge, last year was the first year that the AAP recommended flu shots for children with underlying medical conditions. I remember this, because I discussed it with my pediatrician because though my son has a seizure disorder, that was not listed as one of the " conditions " that would warrant receiving the vaccine. We did decide to give it to him, and will do so again this year. Our pediatrician said that the vaccines that they have in our pediatrics department are thimerisol-free, as opposed to the ones that are used in adults and in the larger " flu shot clinics " . This is only my understanding of this...I could be wrong. > We just got our October School Newsletter (elementary school) and there > was a little article from the school nurse that says the following: > > The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that all children ages 6 > months and older receive the flu vaccine. It especially recommends it > for those children in the high-risk group, that is, those children with > airway disease and those who use inhalers (as well as other chronic > diseases). It is advisable to call your pediatrician's office to > discuss this and make an appointment before there is an outbreak of the > flu in our area. > > The reason I am posting this, is because I didn't realize that it was > recommended this highly for everyone. I thought it was just for the > elderly and people with chronic diseases as she mentioned. > > FYI! > Liz Dunn (NJ USA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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