flu shot?

October 16, 2008

Absolute regression here! Will not ever vaccinate again!!! I will

however keep my kids immune systems strong with a healthy diet and

supplements.

The flu mist is not recommended for children with asthma or otherwise

compromised immune systems either.

cvtchvac wrote:

> Hello,

> I was wondering if all of you mom's with children who have been

> diagnosed with apraixa have given or will give your child a flu shot

> in the past or this fall? I have been wondering if children with

> apraxia are known to regress after a flu shot. I have given my 2 1/2

> year old one the last two years but am not sure if I am going to this

> year. I know its a personal decision and I have read the pros and cons

> of course but just wondering what some other mother's have or are

> doing. I plan on sending him to a 3 year old preschool in January and

> i know they are complete germ fest places so I worry about that.(I

> have OCD myself which doesn't help the issue) So, just wondering

> for those mom's who have given their children a flu shot after an

> apraxia diagnosis, did you see any regressions after the shot? thanks

> everyone.

> Jenn

>

> ------------------------------------

>

October 16, 2008

I thought also there was a problem with the mist spreading the flu as

well.

> > Hello,

> > I was wondering if all of you mom's with children who have been

> > diagnosed with apraixa have given or will give your child a flu

shot

> > in the past or this fall? I have been wondering if children with

> > apraxia are known to regress after a flu shot. I have given my 2

1/2

> > year old one the last two years but am not sure if I am going to

this

> > year. I know its a personal decision and I have read the pros and

cons

> > of course but just wondering what some other mother's have or are

> > doing. I plan on sending him to a 3 year old preschool in January

and

> > i know they are complete germ fest places so I worry about that.(I

> > have OCD myself which doesn't help the issue) So, just

wondering

> > for those mom's who have given their children a flu shot after an

> > apraxia diagnosis, did you see any regressions after the shot?

thanks

> > everyone.

> > Jenn

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

October 16, 2008

Highly debated topic, but after all I've read and heard and seen---the only way

to ensure my child will be as healthy as possible is to build a healthy immune

system naturally, --one that will be better able to withstand anything, any

virus or bacteria or bug bite or what ever that comes her way---through good

diet and supplements as needed--homeopathy works well for this too and there are

many reputable homeopathic practitioners who work with pediatric populations or

have an MD in pediatrics.

Vaccines, whether sprayed, injected or swallowed can adversely affect especially

the most vulnerable, those with already compromised immune/neurological

systems. Get a second opinion for an alternative health care practitioner of

this type, not another regular doctor, because there you'll just hear more of

the same, they just have their doctrine and can be sued for not following it.

The more appropriate question for them is if they vaccinate their own children,

and if they would vaccinate their own child who showed signs of immune damage

and ill health at the time of vaccination--the way many children have been

damaged by vaccines. We've had on this board moms who have stated that they

advocate for vaccinations on their jobs because they " have to " but did not and

do not plan to vaccinate their own kids. --Something to really think about.

Everyone decides for themselves and their children of course, but read up on it

first, ---go to a doctor who works with natural immune building supplements and

remedies and hear what such a doctor has to say, and after listening carefully

to both sides and giving it full consideration--then decide. Don't blindly

follow what the guidelines and recommendations are, they are governed by profit

and severely misconstrued, and doctors follow them blindly too because they have

to, but they are not what is necessarily best for the population--and especially

they are not for immuno compromised or otherwise neurologically affected

children and any good immunologist knows this, but regular medical practice is

over zealous when it comes to these things.

Also understand that building a strong immune system means sugar is your

greatest enemy as well as any other inflammatory substances that may be

affecting your child--and this is where ti gets tricky, because many children

who are immuno compromised already have many sensitivities they may or may not

know about and these too can impede immune healing and maintain a lower immunity

which can affect the child. So building a strong immune system is not a " pill "

or a " shot " type deal, that's why many parents are lured by the vaccination

idea, which sounds theoretically plausible, but in reality there are many hidden

dangers.

Vaccines have many dark sides, many misconceptions and many toxic substances

(viral, bacterial and chemical) that can affect the most vulnerable and really

set the immune system for a spin. A good doctor who treats

homeopathically/biomeidcally and builds the immune system naturally will do much

more for these children than any vaccine can. This goes for any children

really, but since the topic was the most vulnerable...

The diet supplements, hydrogen peroxide sea salt rinses gargling, etc. as well

as a good active highly potent probiotic are critical for a strong immune system

and this should definitely be followed, not doctor will argue against this, not

even the ones who recommend vaccinations, though they may not really understand

just how effective a good probiotic can be for building a strong immune system,

Go to a doctor that does and can make other recommendations specific for your

child. Good luck!

Elena

October 16, 2008

My son not just developed Apraxia but AUTISM... he got the flu shot and the MMR

at the same time and I regret that decision...

Love, Gabby. :0)

http://stemcellforautism.blogspot.com/

" I know of nobody who is purely Autistic or purely neurotypical. Even God had

some Autistic moments, which is why the planets all spin. " ~ Jerry Newport

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October 17, 2008

I would not give the flu shot! My son is allergic to severely allergic to egg

and if I would have known this at 6 months I would have never vaccinated him!

HUGE debate in NJ right now with all 3 and 4 year olds REQUIRED to have this

shot to attend school or daycare! HUGE rally at the state capital yesterday for

a vaccination choice for parents. This just sets the example that the shot is

not safe! NJ is the only state in the country to make it mandatory but of course

we have 17 of the biggest pharma companies pumping into our economy!

Check out this group for the best information on the flu vaccine.......NJ

parents are very well informed on this group!

nonjvaccmandates

October 17, 2008

Hi Jenn,

I know this isn't going to be the most popular post concerning this issue but

here goes. My 8 yr old dyspraxic son will be getting a flu shot this year as he

has in years past. We have seen no regression with the shot. Of course we will

chose to have the single dose shot, not the multi-dose vial method. As shots in

single dose do not have thimersal.

I will clarify why we chose to have the shot as well. My Dad has a very severe

case of COPD, if he would be exposed to the flu by either myself or anyone in

our family and he got the flu, it is very possible that he could die. Also, I

will be having my third child right in the middle of flu season and really don't

her exposed if we can at all help it.

I am not sure if this helps you or not?

From: cvtchvac <cvtchvac@...>

Subject: [ ] flu shot?

Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 4:03 PM

Hello,

I was wondering if all of you mom's with children who have been

diagnosed with apraixa have given or will give your child a flu shot

in the past or this fall? I have been wondering if children with

apraxia are known to regress after a flu shot. I have given my 2 1/2

year old one the last two years but am not sure if I am going to this

year. I know its a personal decision and I have read the pros and cons

of course but just wondering what some other mother's have or are

doing. I plan on sending him to a 3 year old preschool in January and

i know they are complete germ fest places so I worry about that.(I

have OCD myself which doesn't help the issue) So, just wondering

for those mom's who have given their children a flu shot after an

apraxia diagnosis, did you see any regressions after the shot? thanks

everyone.

Jenn

------------------------------------

October 17, 2008

Aggie, grandmother of Cole, asked for people to weigh in last year as

to whether they should get a flu shot for her grandson, apraxic with

sensory issues and echilocia and asthma, last year. He had, at that

point, gotten the thimerosol ones since in utero and was approaching 4.

The doc recommended it because of the asthma and a rotavirus that

nearly killed him. No one answered her last year until after he got it.

He got the thimerosol-filled one yet again.

This year he is not getting any I don't think. He has since tested high

in mercury. There may be other sources but for whatever reason this

little boy holds onto it and it hurts him. Everyone is different. No

thimerosol is a good thing. No aluminum is also a great thing though I

do not know how one gets that if vaccinating. Anyone know?

I hope everyone's children, vaccinated or not, has a healthy flu season

without illness or regression.

October 17, 2008

Thank you for posting your thoughts on the flu shot. Never worry about

popular vote on this board. This is how we help each other out here. We

report the good, the bad and the ugly. We as mothers have to do what is

right for our *own* child. It is great that you posted your answer to

the question. Even though, your experience has been different from my

person experience as we had a terrible regression with the flu shot ,

or anyone elses that is fine. I have posted here too what may seem

against the grain but you never know what will hep someone else out and

what may ring true for someone even though it is not the most popular idea.

Take care, and good luck with upoming baby!!!!

Meyer wrote:

> Hi Jenn,

>

> I know this isn't going to be the most popular post concerning this issue but

here goes. My 8 yr old dyspraxic son will be getting a flu shot this year as he

has in years past. We have seen no regression with the shot. Of course we will

chose to have the single dose shot, not the multi-dose vial method. As shots in

single dose do not have thimersal.

>

> I will clarify why we chose to have the shot as well. My Dad has a very

severe case of COPD, if he would be exposed to the flu by either myself or

anyone in our family and he got the flu, it is very possible that he could die.

Also, I will be having my third child right in the middle of flu season and

really don't her exposed if we can at all help it.

>

> I am not sure if this helps you or not?

>

> From: cvtchvac <cvtchvac@...>

> Subject: [ ] flu shot?

>

> Date: Thursday, October 16, 2008, 4:03 PM