Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 In a message dated 12/14/01 7:12:10 PM, Sierra376@... writes: << Anyway I'm on the verge of giving up posting because I don't need to have MORE pain. You should all do what is right for you. Please allow me the same freedom without trying to change me. It won't work and all of us will become exasperated and that's no good! Please let me be me! >> Madeleine- I think professional help would be best for you....try to find a good counselor, you are asking us 'non-professionals' for something we are not capable of doing and that is to teach YOU how to take care and love yourself. I am not going to give any more input into this....I have literally THOUSANDS that need the help that are willing to listen and DO SOMETHING POSITIVE. They ARE listening and are willing to throw out their old tapes that play in their heads and are open for suggestions. Time is precious and I am out of it. Best of luck sue in nj sue massie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2001 Report Share Posted December 14, 2001 Sue, Thank you!! This has gone beyond ridiculous. I am willing to help anyone with anything that wants help. That doesn't mean that they have to take my suggestions, but I am tired of reading all the rejections for any help here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 In a message dated 12/15/01 9:30:28 AM, gailmcain@... writes: << och! Please can someone help Madeleine get a Dr. Then, other issues can be tackled. >> Already did...... sue in nj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 What do you want from us?! No one here can tell you how to get your boyfriend back, no one. It seems this is more important than the lyme, so I suggest you find a group that deals with relationship issues, then come back here for help with the lyme Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Re: [ ] Giving Up What do you want from us?! No one here can tell you how to get your boyfriend back, no one. It seems this is more important than the lyme, so I suggest you find a group that deals with relationship issues, then come back here for help with the lyme och! Please can someone help Madeleine get a Dr. Then, other issues can be tackled. Madeleine please reconsider the advice of getting SS lawyer. I have heard before that it is the only way to deal with the system. Yes, it is your $ but we have all wasted money on this disease either on vits., ducs, or tests. I realize you have to make every penny count but, if you can get 3/4 of what is owed to you and get the right Dr. and Meds. that will be the best start to getting your life on tract. Lyme sucks but, getting to a good Dr. is the first step. If a lawyer can get you your SS $ quicker and that gets you to a Dr. quicker that will be $ will spent. It's a shame re. insurance but, our Drs. risk their careers for our treatment . Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2001 Report Share Posted December 15, 2001 Madeleine, To get your SS you have to get a lawyer, My dh had to use a lawyer to get SS for other illness. They system is set up so they automatically reject you so you won't fight for it. A lawyer will take a cut of what you get so you won't have out of pocket expenses. For anyone to win they need a lawyer. It is just part of the process. Re: [ ] Giving Up What do you want from us?! No one here can tell you how to get your boyfriend back, no one. It seems this is more important than the lyme, so I suggest you find a group that deals with relationship issues, then come back here for help with the lyme och! Please can someone help Madeleine get a Dr. Then, other issues can be tackled. Madeleine please reconsider the advice of getting SS lawyer. I have heard before that it is the only way to deal with the system. Yes, it is your $ but we have all wasted money on this disease either on vits., ducs, or tests. I realize you have to make every penny count but, if you can get 3/4 of what is owed to you and get the right Dr. and Meds. that will be the best start to getting your life on tract. Lyme sucks but, getting to a good Dr. is the first step. If a lawyer can get you your SS $ quicker and that gets you to a Dr. quicker that will be $ will spent. It's a shame re. insurance but, our Drs. risk their careers for our treatment . Gail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will work out........ hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will work out........ hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will work out........ hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 28, 2002 Report Share Posted March 28, 2002 Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will work out........ hugs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is HIS decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do now. I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I would definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. Love............Cheryl >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Giving up >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will >work out........ hugs > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he would be able to appeal that. What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. Is Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to appeal the plea in the future. Sincerely, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is >HIS >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do >now. >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I >would >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. >Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he would be able to appeal that. What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. Is Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to appeal the plea in the future. Sincerely, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is >HIS >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do >now. >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I >would >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. >Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he would be able to appeal that. What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. Is Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to appeal the plea in the future. Sincerely, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is >HIS >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do >now. >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I >would >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. >Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he would be able to appeal that. What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. Is Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to appeal the plea in the future. Sincerely, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is >HIS >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do >now. >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I >would >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. >Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 You do not have to give up if Steve goes with a plea bargain, when new light shines over these drugs...all the cases, even no-appeal ones will have their new day in court..... it happened here in Texas to men serving life for rape cases...remember when the DNA tests were allowed in court like 10 years ago.... well, if I recall, 40 something were released, some had been accused and found guilty of murder.... Steve has to have your hope or his life is lost anyhow... You hang in, remember it is still the drug withdrawal you are feeling too, not your own doing ...... kill the doc, well, I have never heard of male/female cells...so don't go there....and YES there is an effexor suit, I think Dawn has the address for it... if not I will look for it for you... is your thinking rationally coming back, can you sit and plan things yet?? you have to find a way to be strong for Steve....hang in there, go day by day and let yourself heal hugs, > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is HIS > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do now. > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I would > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > >SSRI medications@y... > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 You do not have to give up if Steve goes with a plea bargain, when new light shines over these drugs...all the cases, even no-appeal ones will have their new day in court..... it happened here in Texas to men serving life for rape cases...remember when the DNA tests were allowed in court like 10 years ago.... well, if I recall, 40 something were released, some had been accused and found guilty of murder.... Steve has to have your hope or his life is lost anyhow... You hang in, remember it is still the drug withdrawal you are feeling too, not your own doing ...... kill the doc, well, I have never heard of male/female cells...so don't go there....and YES there is an effexor suit, I think Dawn has the address for it... if not I will look for it for you... is your thinking rationally coming back, can you sit and plan things yet?? you have to find a way to be strong for Steve....hang in there, go day by day and let yourself heal hugs, > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives up > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much for > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is HIS > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is only > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him to > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my anger > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do now. > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and beat > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on suing > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I would > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > Love............Cheryl > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > >SSRI medications@y... > >Subject: Re: Giving up > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Suzy.... The terms of the plea havent been all worked out yet, but we do know he will get life in prison, without the ability to appeal. In our State, life means life...no parole. If he goes to trial, and has a bad outcome, he could get the death penalty.The prosecution apparently feels they can prove premediation which will sentence him to death. Steve is not on medication now. He will never take it again after what has happened. Unfortunately, in this stete full of idiots, you cannot present the medication as a defense. We rank right up there with Texas as being capitol punishment fanatics. I don't know what else to do. Id rather him take the plea than to risk death, but at the same time, someday, people are going to have to stand up for the truth.I don't know. Also, the bad thing is, I was going to fight the drug company in court, but if Steve takes the plea, he has to admit guilt, and then that relieves the drug company of any wrong doing. I wanted to sue them, and get a jury to say they were at fault, to turn around and use the win for Steve in an appeal. They have me in a catch 22 here. Clever jerks, they are.I'll find a way though. I won't ever give up. <Love....Cheryl >From: " suzy nakauchi " <suzynakauchi@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:48:56 +0000 > >Dear Cheryl, > >Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he >would >be able to appeal that. > >What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. >Is >Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to >appeal >the plea in the future. > >Sincerely, >Suzy > > > >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > > > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is > >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives >up > >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much >for > >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is > >HIS > >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is >only > >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to > >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is > >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him >to > >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are > >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my >anger > >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do > >now. > >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and >beat > >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know > >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't > >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on >suing > >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I > >would > >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > >Love............Cheryl > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > >SSRI medications > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Suzy.... The terms of the plea havent been all worked out yet, but we do know he will get life in prison, without the ability to appeal. In our State, life means life...no parole. If he goes to trial, and has a bad outcome, he could get the death penalty.The prosecution apparently feels they can prove premediation which will sentence him to death. Steve is not on medication now. He will never take it again after what has happened. Unfortunately, in this stete full of idiots, you cannot present the medication as a defense. We rank right up there with Texas as being capitol punishment fanatics. I don't know what else to do. Id rather him take the plea than to risk death, but at the same time, someday, people are going to have to stand up for the truth.I don't know. Also, the bad thing is, I was going to fight the drug company in court, but if Steve takes the plea, he has to admit guilt, and then that relieves the drug company of any wrong doing. I wanted to sue them, and get a jury to say they were at fault, to turn around and use the win for Steve in an appeal. They have me in a catch 22 here. Clever jerks, they are.I'll find a way though. I won't ever give up. <Love....Cheryl >From: " suzy nakauchi " <suzynakauchi@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:48:56 +0000 > >Dear Cheryl, > >Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he >would >be able to appeal that. > >What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. >Is >Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to >appeal >the plea in the future. > >Sincerely, >Suzy > > > >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > > > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive is > >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also gives >up > >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much >for > >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this is > >HIS > >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is >only > >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have to > >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That is > >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him >to > >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people are > >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my >anger > >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do > >now. > >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and >beat > >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I know > >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that wouldn't > >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on >suing > >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I > >would > >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > >Love............Cheryl > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > >SSRI medications > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, I saw 's answer to you and think that there is hope even if Steve takes the plea. But, I think that Steve should find another lawyer if the one he has can only come up with life - that's no bargain at all - that's getting the max term. The prosecutor represents one extreme, the lawyer should come up with the other extreme to bargain for " innocent " . Then, there is a bargain. Love, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:04:07 -0500 > > >Dear Suzy.... The terms of the plea havent been all worked out yet, but we >do know he will get life in prison, without the ability to appeal. In our >State, life means life...no parole. If he goes to trial, and has a bad >outcome, he could get the death penalty.The prosecution apparently feels >they can prove premediation which will sentence him to death. Steve is not >on medication now. He will never take it again after what has happened. >Unfortunately, in this stete full of idiots, you cannot present the >medication as a defense. We rank right up there with Texas as being >capitol >punishment fanatics. I don't know what else to do. Id rather him take the >plea than to risk death, but at the same time, someday, people are going to >have to stand up for the truth.I don't know. Also, the bad thing is, I was >going to fight the drug company in court, but if Steve takes the plea, he >has to admit guilt, and then that relieves the drug company of any wrong >doing. I wanted to sue them, and get a jury to say they were at fault, to >turn around and use the win for Steve in an appeal. They have me in a catch >22 here. Clever jerks, they are.I'll find a way though. I won't ever give >up. <Love....Cheryl > > >From: " suzy nakauchi " <suzynakauchi@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:48:56 +0000 > > > >Dear Cheryl, > > > >Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he > >would > >be able to appeal that. > > > >What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. > >Is > >Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to > >appeal > >the plea in the future. > > > >Sincerely, > >Suzy > > > > > > >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > >SSRI medications > > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > > > > > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive >is > > >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also >gives > >up > > >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much > >for > > >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this >is > > >HIS > > >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is > >only > > >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have >to > > >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That >is > > >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him > >to > > >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people >are > > >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my > >anger > > >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do > > >now. > > >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and > >beat > > >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I >know > > >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that >wouldn't > > >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > > >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on > >suing > > >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > > >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I > > >would > > >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > >Love............Cheryl > > > > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > > >SSRI medications > > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Dear Cheryl, I saw 's answer to you and think that there is hope even if Steve takes the plea. But, I think that Steve should find another lawyer if the one he has can only come up with life - that's no bargain at all - that's getting the max term. The prosecutor represents one extreme, the lawyer should come up with the other extreme to bargain for " innocent " . Then, there is a bargain. Love, Suzy >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 20:04:07 -0500 > > >Dear Suzy.... The terms of the plea havent been all worked out yet, but we >do know he will get life in prison, without the ability to appeal. In our >State, life means life...no parole. If he goes to trial, and has a bad >outcome, he could get the death penalty.The prosecution apparently feels >they can prove premediation which will sentence him to death. Steve is not >on medication now. He will never take it again after what has happened. >Unfortunately, in this stete full of idiots, you cannot present the >medication as a defense. We rank right up there with Texas as being >capitol >punishment fanatics. I don't know what else to do. Id rather him take the >plea than to risk death, but at the same time, someday, people are going to >have to stand up for the truth.I don't know. Also, the bad thing is, I was >going to fight the drug company in court, but if Steve takes the plea, he >has to admit guilt, and then that relieves the drug company of any wrong >doing. I wanted to sue them, and get a jury to say they were at fault, to >turn around and use the win for Steve in an appeal. They have me in a catch >22 here. Clever jerks, they are.I'll find a way though. I won't ever give >up. <Love....Cheryl > > >From: " suzy nakauchi " <suzynakauchi@...> > >Reply-SSRI medications > >SSRI medications > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 23:48:56 +0000 > > > >Dear Cheryl, > > > >Remember, even if Steve were to go to trial and have a bad outcome, he > >would > >be able to appeal that. > > > >What are the terms of his plea? Somehow I've missed some of your posts. > >Is > >Steve under any medication now? If he is, there would be a chance to > >appeal > >the plea in the future. > > > >Sincerely, > >Suzy > > > > > > >From: " Cheryl Graves " <sapphire_eyes2@...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > >SSRI medications > > >Subject: Re: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:31:50 -0500 > > > > > >Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him alive >is > > >the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also >gives > >up > > >the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too much > >for > > >me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that this >is > > >HIS > > >decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There is > >only > > >one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I have >to > > >make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. That >is > > >very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want him > >to > > >fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, people >are > > >executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get my > >anger > > >under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as I do > > >now. > > >I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office and > >beat > > >the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. I >know > > >that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that >wouldn't > > >help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will change > > >that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend on > >suing > > >him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits against > > >effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford it. I > > >would > > >definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > >Love............Cheryl > > > > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> > > > >Reply-SSRI medications > > > >SSRI medications > > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix this..... > > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never is a > > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, cry, > > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my prayers > > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it will > > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > >http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Hi :>) how are YOU? I hope you are gonna fight too. I do hope you are right..I do hope someday soon, he can have his case reopened after the truth comes out. As far as the Dr, I didnt say Id kill him LOL...only beat him silly...Death would be too painless for him. I want him to suffer just like we all do. Im going to fight to take everything he has away from him, including his license hopefully. THAT is where people like him feel pain the most..when you take their money from them. Sick thing is, I dont even WANT money, I just want him to feel pain for what he did, plus, I want to prove Steve innocent. thats all, but to do so, I have to win a civil suit, which involves money. I DO need to find out about the class action suit against effexor soon. I want to join in. If you could find the info for me, I will be eternally greatful. I hope you join it to, for what they did to Bob. The more of us that join, the more damage we can do. I am sure some of my rage is coming from my withdrawals, but most of it comes from my pain and anger that they once again get away with their deceitful ways. I just hope that soon we can stop them..Love you.....Cheryl >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Giving up >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:31:30 -0000 > >You do not have to give up if Steve goes with a plea bargain, when >new light shines over these drugs...all the cases, even no-appeal >ones will have their new day in court..... it happened here in Texas >to men serving life for rape cases...remember when the DNA tests were >allowed in court like 10 years ago.... well, if I recall, 40 >something were released, some had been accused and found guilty of >murder.... Steve has to have your hope or his life is lost anyhow... >You hang in, remember it is still the drug withdrawal you are feeling >too, not your own doing ...... kill the doc, well, I have never >heard of male/female cells...so don't go there....and YES there is an >effexor suit, I think Dawn has the address for it... if not I will >look for it for you... is your thinking rationally coming back, can >you sit and plan things yet?? you have to find a way to be strong for >Steve....hang in there, go day by day and let yourself heal hugs, > > > > > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him >alive is > > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also >gives up > > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too >much for > > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that >this is HIS > > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There >is only > > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I >have to > > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. >That is > > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want >him to > > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, >people are > > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get >my anger > > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as >I do now. > > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office >and beat > > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. >I know > > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that >wouldn't > > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will >change > > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend >on suing > > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits >against > > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford >it. I would > > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > Love............Cheryl > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > > >SSRI medications@y... > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix >this..... > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never >is a > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, >cry, > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my >prayers > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it >will > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Hi :>) how are YOU? I hope you are gonna fight too. I do hope you are right..I do hope someday soon, he can have his case reopened after the truth comes out. As far as the Dr, I didnt say Id kill him LOL...only beat him silly...Death would be too painless for him. I want him to suffer just like we all do. Im going to fight to take everything he has away from him, including his license hopefully. THAT is where people like him feel pain the most..when you take their money from them. Sick thing is, I dont even WANT money, I just want him to feel pain for what he did, plus, I want to prove Steve innocent. thats all, but to do so, I have to win a civil suit, which involves money. I DO need to find out about the class action suit against effexor soon. I want to join in. If you could find the info for me, I will be eternally greatful. I hope you join it to, for what they did to Bob. The more of us that join, the more damage we can do. I am sure some of my rage is coming from my withdrawals, but most of it comes from my pain and anger that they once again get away with their deceitful ways. I just hope that soon we can stop them..Love you.....Cheryl >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@...> >Reply-SSRI medications >SSRI medications >Subject: Re: Giving up >Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:31:30 -0000 > >You do not have to give up if Steve goes with a plea bargain, when >new light shines over these drugs...all the cases, even no-appeal >ones will have their new day in court..... it happened here in Texas >to men serving life for rape cases...remember when the DNA tests were >allowed in court like 10 years ago.... well, if I recall, 40 >something were released, some had been accused and found guilty of >murder.... Steve has to have your hope or his life is lost anyhow... >You hang in, remember it is still the drug withdrawal you are feeling >too, not your own doing ...... kill the doc, well, I have never >heard of male/female cells...so don't go there....and YES there is an >effexor suit, I think Dawn has the address for it... if not I will >look for it for you... is your thinking rationally coming back, can >you sit and plan things yet?? you have to find a way to be strong for >Steve....hang in there, go day by day and let yourself heal hugs, > > > > > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him >alive is > > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also >gives up > > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too >much for > > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that >this is HIS > > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There >is only > > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I >have to > > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. >That is > > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want >him to > > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, >people are > > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get >my anger > > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as >I do now. > > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office >and beat > > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. >I know > > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that >wouldn't > > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will >change > > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend >on suing > > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits >against > > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford >it. I would > > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > Love............Cheryl > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > > >SSRI medications@y... > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix >this..... > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never >is a > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, >cry, > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my >prayers > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it >will > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > http://www.hotmail.com > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Cheryl, I looked and looked, it must have been the serzone one I was thinking of, I will keep looking and see if was just mistaken or have lost my mind, hugs > > > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him > >alive is > > > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also > >gives up > > > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too > >much for > > > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that > >this is HIS > > > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There > >is only > > > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I > >have to > > > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. > >That is > > > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want > >him to > > > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, > >people are > > > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get > >my anger > > > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as > >I do now. > > > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office > >and beat > > > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. > >I know > > > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that > >wouldn't > > > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will > >change > > > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend > >on suing > > > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits > >against > > > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford > >it. I would > > > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > > Love............Cheryl > > > > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > > > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > > > >SSRI medications@y... > > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix > >this..... > > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never > >is a > > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, > >cry, > > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my > >prayers > > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it > >will > > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 29, 2002 Report Share Posted March 29, 2002 Cheryl, I looked and looked, it must have been the serzone one I was thinking of, I will keep looking and see if was just mistaken or have lost my mind, hugs > > > Hi ...as much as it hurts, I know you are right. Keeping him > >alive is > > > the most important thing. However, if he accepts the plea, he also > >gives up > > > the right to ever appeal. I don't know what to do. It is just too > >much for > > > me, and even though we are engaed to be married, I told him that > >this is HIS > > > decision alone. He wants my opinion, but I just can't do it. There > >is only > > > one option I want, and as we know, that isn't going to happen. I > >have to > > > make him make this decision alone, as it is his life in jeapordy. > >That is > > > very hard for me to say, because I want to fight. But, I don't want > >him to > > > fight, lose, and possibly get the death penalty. In our state, > >people are > > > executed a very painful way, too. Electrocution. I hope I can get > >my anger > > > under control soon, because I have never felt such intense rage as > >I do now. > > > I have had to fight off the urge to walk into his doctor's office > >and beat > > > the hell out of that doctor many times in the last couple of days. > >I know > > > that it wouldn't solve anything, only land me in jail, and that > >wouldn't > > > help Steve either.It is over and done, and nothing I can do will > >change > > > that. But he needs to pay for what he did to Steve. I still intend > >on suing > > > him. Another question, do you know of any class action suits > >against > > > effexor? I want to sue privately, but I don't think I can afford > >it. I would > > > definately join a class action suit. Thank you for the prayers. > > > Love............Cheryl > > > > > > > > > >From: " joey75234 " <bobd1@e...> > > > >Reply-SSRI medications@y... > > > >SSRI medications@y... > > > >Subject: Re: Giving up > > > >Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:15:15 -0000 > > > > > > > >Cheryl, give up....hell no, never and you know it..... go ahead and > > > >encourage him to take the plea bargain....... time will fix > >this..... > > > >but at least that way he is quaranteed to be alive....... once the > > > >crap comes out about the horrors of these drugs, the legal system > > > >will be full of thousands of these cases of wrongly incarserating > > > >people.... you have time on your side, right now, it is a rare case > > > >that goes to trial and goes for the person accused....... sad but > > > >true...... once a week for now is better than never....... never > >is a > > > >very long long time, YOU HAVE TO GET CONTROL...... try any trick in > > > >your knowledge to get over this hump...... run, work up a sweat, > >cry, > > > >do anything you can.... let it out and get your faith back...... > > > >Steve will be free one day.... don't loose your courage my > >prayers > > > >are with you, this could just be God's way of saying go slow, it > >will > > > >work out........ hugs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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