Re: giving up

[Guest guest]

>

> I should also mention that I just got the Nourishing Traditions

book, and the recipes and ideas in it are just what my husband and I

have been striving for in the last while. Even if I were to lighten

up on the candida program, I would stick to what I'm learning in the

NT book. I noticed in the files that Bee is an advocate of this book,

so in that sense, I feel like I won't be HARMING my body. But maybe

I'm being naive and just having a really, really bad day.

==>Sally Fallon's cookbook is not designed to treat candida

sufferers. There are many foods in her book that feed candida (and

cancer too) and would cause problems for diabetes or hypoglycemia,

and many other diseases and malfunctions. Unhealthy people wouldn't

be able get well eating all of the foods she recommends, particularly

fruits, dairy (except butter), sugars, grains, seeds, nuts & legumes

(even if they are properly prepared), etc.

Try to keep things as simple as you can. Just preparing meats, eggs,

and low-carb veggies with plenty of good fats is easy to do, but hard

to confront. There is so much less food choices but they are

healthier, and they cost less than all of the processed foods. In

fact people require less food on this program. And contrary to

popular belief no one gets bored eating the same foods day in a day

out. Our ancestors only had foods available within their immediate

vicinity, and some had very little choice, like the Eskimos.

The best to you, Bee

[Guest guest]

Jana, I also homeschool my 2 kids that are still at home. Here are

some tips that have helped me. First, I use one of those weekly pill

holders to put all of my supplements in. It has a weeks worth of am

and pm. So I take my morning ones and then my evening ones. It

takes me 5 or 10 minutes to get that filled once a week. I make the

egg drink at night for the next morning. Things like oatmeal and

brown rice cereal can be cooked overnight in the crockpot for the

kids. During the week I try to stick to easy lunches like tuna salad

or pasta dishes for the kids. They are not on the diet all the way

right now. Anything that you can eat they can eat too. Our dinners

are the same for everyone but I have 1 really picky son. So I make

whatever meat we are having and veggies that are safe for me and if I

need to I just add something for him like potatoes or something he

will eat. The same can be done for lunches. Start with a meat or

veggie and adapt what you are already doing so that everyone is

reasonably happy and fed. One thing that even my picky one eats is

mashed cauliflower. It's one for the whole family. After cooking it

till very soft I use the blender to puree it and season it like I

would potatoes with butter, sea salt and pepper. It is also good for

leftovers the next day. Alot of days I end up eating leftovers from

the night before for lunch and making the kids their own lunch.

One thought on quitting... we have gotten behind on our homeschooling

because of the health problems I have with the yeast. It had gotten

worse in the last couple of years so that I had not had the energy or

focus to keep up with all we should have been doing. So it really is

worth it to get a system worked out that allows you to keep on the

diet. It does take time to get it going and feeling like it's just

second nature. But it is possible. I have a problem with all or

nothing thinking so I have to contunually remind myself if I'm not

doing this perfectly it's ok. I'm working on it and that's good

enough. Working out a system one meal at a time might be helpful.

Get one meal figured out for everyone in the family and then work on

the next meal. Make a menu for the week/month or whatever and stick

to those each week/month. It really is no more expensive for food on

this diet. The organic stuff is more expensive but buying less

packaged processed stuff makes up for the increase. It will be more

if you are buying your food in addition to the same stuff you've

always bought. i hope that is helpful. Hang in there.

Donna in Indy

>

> It's day 4. I feel like giving up. First off, I REREAD the info YET

> AGAIN, and I think, even though I already ate a very strict diet

> BEFORe, I must have made too many changes all at once. Maybe I

jumped

> too quickly too the proper fat/carb/protein ratio? Maybe it was too

> much for my body to have the egg drink and the electrolyte drink and

> the Pau D'Arco Tea right away? All I know is that 1) I'm constipated

> (which I think is because of too drastic a change in my regular

> ratios), and 2) I do not have time to do this. I have three

children.

> I homeschool. In the last four days, by the time I've prepared the

> family's breakfast, my own breakfast, made my drinks for the day,

> taken my supplements, and cleaned up the kitchen, it's already

almost

> time to start thinking about what I'm making everyone else for

lunch!

> And that's without spending any time with my kids or doing any

> homeschooling! I realize that it may get better after awhile, but I

> just don't know if I can do this. I'm thinking of quitting. KINDA

> quitting. I'm thinking of sticking with the supplements, still

having

> the drinks, but maybe not so strict about having ALL of them in a

day.

> And sticking to the diet FOR THE MOST PART. I'll stay off sugars of

> all kinds. Stay off dairy. Stay off processed grains. But I just

can't

> be making 3 meals a day for me and 3 for the family. Plus, the cost.

> If I made everyone the same food I'm eating, our grocery bill would

> skyrocket (and it's already high because we eat all organic - even

> meats). Am I the only one who feels this way? Are there people who

can

> do this who have a schedule as busy as mine? I know I feel good. I'm

> just thinking that I might have to settle for dragging this whole

> healing process out a GREAT DEAL LONGER than I expected to. Isn't it

> possible to still get rid of candida with a semi-compromised method

> like I mentioned above? Only it'll take a lot longer? I just don't

> know what to do.

>

> Sorry for such a discouraging post.

> ~Jana

>

[Guest guest]

Hi I an new here at the forum, and I also know how expensive it is to

stay with the Yeast protocol, I instead of buying organic, just wash

all my veggies and even soak meats in ozonated water. It cleans off

pesticides and all molds, bacteria virus's etc.

[Guest guest]

Group,

I got tired as well and found the two sources of close calls of giving up from

time to time: money and the lack of selections at the grocery store.

So I found a solution (I understand not everyone will be able to do this), but I

grow my own vegetables because from a seed catalogue, the possibilites are

unlimited. And I am working on getting some chickens. As for the beef, buy

from the local butcher in bulk. During deer season, ask a hunter that you know

(talk and inquire) if he'll get a deer for you. Pay him of course.

Plus there are co-ops and talk to more people about stretching the menu. I've

become so accustomed to pasta night, pasta night, and more cheap foods to

stretch my budget. This new concept of thinking has forced me to be creative

and I've learned that my family is actually much closer because of this. We go

out and check on the vegetables,and anxiously await their arrival in a few

weeks. We'll be freezing pretty soon.

I hope this helps for some of you.

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>

> Well...I got a phone call from the Assistant Principal....the girls printed

out the page from MySpace and brought it to school....I guess they showed the

Asst. Principal...OMG....he said that normally he would not do anything but my

son said XXX was the school slut. OMG.....I got pissed then...I said it was my

computer at home and her computer at her house...and yes it says school but

didn't name the school. And, these girls are calling here all the time and

talking about sex to my son ...telling him they had sex at age 10. Plus the one

hurt his good friend....and that is the real reason he said it on MySpace.

Jan, you just need a great big cyber hug right now! But, I really hope you

start documenting this stuff. If they are going to pull stuff like this, I

would record the girls and take it in--make sure their parents get a copy! They

may chill if they find out you are going to big-time embarrass them right back.

> Then I come home to find out my son got 3 days in-school suspension. They said

he pushed someone. My son said pushed him ...at first was pushing

another kid...and then started on my son....my son knocked into another kid. So

now my son gets 3 days of in-school. GREAT...just what I need...3 days of no

learning...my son will love it.

Again, I know you're in no mood to deal with this, but I hope you fight this.

No way your son is getting ISS for one push where nobody was injured; this is

also for other things. I'll tell you how I dealt with teachers being unfair

with my son once (in 6th grade all his teachers were blaming everything wrong

that they didn't see happen on my son). Actually, I lucked out that the

principal involved herself. I sat down with my son, went through all the

supposed infractions one by one, got his side of the story, wrote it all down

with a summary of my own perceptions, and sent a long letter to the principal.

It helped. They actually started dealing with the bullies that were bullying

him, and he ended up with his first SPED eval.

> I don't know how much more I can take...and on top of all this the teacher who

gave my son a spiral note book wants it back because my son uses his 3-ring

binder. Twice I told her I ripped the pages out of the spiral and put it in his

3-ring binder. Duh? How can I give it back...does she want the sprial part?

OMG.

OK, sorry, this made me laugh. I would just buy her a new one--give it to her

with the spiral and covers from the old one if you still have them LOL. Well,

maybe not if she has no sense of humor.

TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY!

Ruth

[Guest guest]

Ruth, thank you....reading the bottom put a smile on my face too! The language arts teacher can not read very well since I told her I ripped the paper out 2x before. OMG....and they say our kids can't read....duh!

And while I was email my post my son and his friend went out to play basketball...the kid up the street who my son loved...but now are no longer friends....said to my son "So how is your grandfather" (he knows he died a year ago)...How cruel is that...but my son got him back...first time he ever did this....he said "And, how is you Dad?" The kid shut right up as his dad just past away. I don't encourage this type of behavior but you know what...the kid asked for it...it is the 2nd time he made that comment to my son....I am so sick of these kids...and then his younger sister and her friend walk by and shout out to my son...Loser Loser....

How much can a kid take? He went to bed at 8 and never did any homework. But like you said tomorrow is another day.

I am taking all the hugs I can gather.

jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: r_woman2 <me2ruth@...>Subject: ( ) Re: Giving UP Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 6:54 PM

>> Well...I got a phone call from the Assistant Principal... .the girls printed out the page from MySpace and brought it to school....I guess they showed the Asst. Principal... OMG....he said that normally he would not do anything but my son said XXX was the school slut. OMG.....I got pissed then...I said it was my computer at home and her computer at her house...and yes it says school but didn't name the school. And, these girls are calling here all the time and talking about sex to my son ...telling him they had sex at age 10. Plus the one hurt his good friend....and that is the real reason he said it on MySpace. Jan, you just need a great big cyber hug right now! But, I really

hope you start documenting this stuff. If they are going to pull stuff like this, I would record the girls and take it in--make sure their parents get a copy! They may chill if they find out you are going to big-time embarrass them right back. > Then I come home to find out my son got 3 days in-school suspension. They said he pushed someone. My son said pushed him ...at first was pushing another kid...and then started on my son....my son knocked into another kid. So now my son gets 3 days of in-school. GREAT...just what I need...3 days of no learning...my son will love it. Again, I know you're in no mood to deal with this, but I hope you fight this. No way your son is getting ISS for one push where nobody was injured; this is also for other things. I'll tell you how I dealt with teachers being unfair with my son once (in 6th grade all his teachers were blaming everything wrong that they didn't see happen on my son).

Actually, I lucked out that the principal involved herself. I sat down with my son, went through all the supposed infractions one by one, got his side of the story, wrote it all down with a summary of my own perceptions, and sent a long letter to the principal. It helped. They actually started dealing with the bullies that were bullying him, and he ended up with his first SPED eval. > I don't know how much more I can take...and on top of all this the teacher who gave my son a spiral note book wants it back because my son uses his 3-ring binder. Twice I told her I ripped the pages out of the spiral and put it in his 3-ring binder. Duh? How can I give it back...does she want the sprial part? OMG. OK, sorry, this made me laugh. I would just buy her a new one--give it to her with the spiral and covers from the old one if you still have them LOL. Well, maybe not if she has no sense of humor.TOMORROW IS ANOTHER DAY!

Ruth

[Guest guest]

Hi :  I forgot where you live, but there must be someone in the group that

is not far from your area.  There has to be a doctor that will see you even

without insurance. I would be willing to research out a specialist in CML for 

you not far from where you are.

Also, if you can get one where you might have to drive a bit of a distance at

least for your first initial consultation and visit would you be able to.  Let

me try to help you out.

From: wendyphillips54 <wendyphillips54@...>

Subject: [ ] giving up

Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:00 PM

 

I have decided that I am sick of all the quacks I have been seeing and I think I

know more than they do just from the group. Just because I can't afford

insurance, they think they can just screw me over and I am sick of it. Thanks

for all your support and be thankful for good doctors that really care and have

a heart!

Blessings to you all,

[Guest guest]

,

Do not give up.

I have had second rate doctors since my DX in 2007. I have survived only because

of it being God's will, not because of my Dr's.

I have, like you learned from the wonderful people on this site. My going to

the Dr appt's was a joke they did not like it when i contradicted them saying I

learned it from my CML Chat..... I would do my lab work and give the dr his or

her 10 min of fame play their game or tell them how stupid I thought they were

and go home. Somtimes would be months before I could get a lab result.

I definetly understand your giving up with them but do not I repeat Do Not give

up on yourself.

I am here you have my cell if you want to phone anytime I will be here. I will

listen and as has said she will help you find a specialist let this group

help you.

Anita

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From: Armour <suzzienovember@...>

Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2009 4:48:40 PM

Subject: Re: [ ] giving up

Hi : I forgot where you live, but there must be someone in the group that

is not far from your area. There has to be a doctor that will see you even

without insurance. I would be willing to research out a specialist in CML for

you not far from where you are.

Also, if you can get one where you might have to drive a bit of a distance at

least for your first initial consultation and visit would you be able to. Let

me try to help you out.

From: wendyphillips54 <wendyphillips54>

Subject: [ ] giving up

groups (DOT) com

Date: Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:00 PM

I have decided that I am sick of all the quacks I have been seeing and I think I

know more than they do just from the group. Just because I can't afford

insurance, they think they can just screw me over and I am sick of it. Thanks

for all your support and be thankful for good doctors that really care and have

a heart!

Blessings to you all,

[Guest guest]

Hi Thom, No it was Beacon Learning Centers.  They had me take the Pharmacy

Technician exam for the NHA which no one knows about.  Never even got to have a

internernship.

 

Rosemary

From: Thom s <peters.thomas@...>

Subject: Re: Giving Up

Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:58 PM

 

Hi Rosemary, I live in Michigan too and am studying for my PTCB certification

test. Which school did you attend, it wasn't Everest was it??

Thom s

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From: rosemary.crowe <rosemary.crowe>

JeanettasPTCBStudyG roup@groups .com

Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 2:11:53 PM

Subject: [JeanettasPTCBStudy Group] Giving Up

Hi Jeanetta, Well I am giving up trying to find a Pharmacy Tech job in Michigan.

I have applied to many and was not selected. I sure it is due to the school I

attended.

Thanks for everything.

Rosemary Crowe