Tooth pain

[Guest guest]

I'm having major gum/tooth problems.. I had attributed

that to the mtx. My gums are a bright red. I teach

school, and the kids asked me why they were so red.

That makes you feel real good.

--- " sherman.fam@... " <sherman.fam@...> wrote:

> I too suffer from tooth pain on one particular

> tooth..and I NEVER

> associated this with my pa...now I am thinking ???

> The tooth is a

> molar...had a root canal and a crown...(last

> year)..at times the tooth

> (gum) hurts like a cavity when you were young..I

> always pop tylenol and

> wait it out...I never had any jaw problems...just

> this one tooth..I told

> the dentist and he didn't seem to think anything was

> wrong. I have

> often thought about just having it pulled, but the

> crown cost me near

> $800.00. Now that I think about it, it really does

> feel like arthritis

> of the gum...never knew there was such a thing. It

> really, really

> hurts..and then I get one of my famous

> headaches...which now a days, are

> a daily episode.

> Jayne

>

>

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[Guest guest]

If you have a magnetic pulser, then I would certainly get using it, from my

understanding it should help. Any other thoughts on this?

Greg

Tooth Pain

> Group,

> I really need some fast advise here. I'm in so much pain. Last Tuesday I

> went to the dentist for a normal checkup, he found a small cavity, filled

it

> and I've been in pain ever since. Today I went to his office to have him

> check it out. He took an x-ray, everything looked fine. He thinks the

> cavity may have been drilled out too close to the nerve/root and it may be

> swelled and causing the pain. He says if the swelling doesn't go down

then

> the nerve will just cut off it's own blood supply and will dye. If this

> happens, it will get infected and I will need to have a root canal. He

> advised me to just have the root canal done now to avoid any further pain.

> I left telling him I would give it a little more time to see if the the

> swelling goes down and the pain goes away. This is not something that can

> be seen on an x-ray, the x-ray looks fine and the filling is close to the

> root but definitely far enough away in his opinion that it should not be

the

> cause of my pain. He also thinks it could be cramping from the shots that

> he gave me before starting the drilling. He says he is using something

new

> and has had some complaints. I always think he injects too much of it

> because my entire side of my head went numb from the top of my head to my

> neck. My jaw hurts to open it but definitely the pain is coming from the

> tooth. I'm willing to try anything not to have to go through having a

root

> canal. I can't believe this is happening over a little cavity. I just

know

> someone out there will have some good advice. You always do. In the

> meantime, I'm taking Motrin for the pain, but as soon as the Motrin wears

> off the pain returns.

> Thanks, Rose

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Hello List,

I have a friend who has a leg wound that won't heal. He also has Diabetes, his

kidneys seem to be failing and his body is retaining water. In the past few

days, he has gained 22 pounds. The infectious disease specialist he saw today

said he could heal his wound but it wouldn't do any good until his water

retention problem is resolved. Until then, the fluids will continue to ooze

from the wound because of the water pressure.

He was prescribed " Bemadex " and " Zocarlin " for that purpose, but no success so

far.

Any suggestions?

Steve

> ** Original Subject: Tooth Pain

> ** Original Sender: " Rosemarie Geiger " <gypsy___rose@...>

> ** Original Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 20:55:06 +0000

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Group,

> I really need some fast advise here. I'm in so much pain. Last Tuesday I

> went to the dentist for a normal checkup, he found a small cavity, filled it

> and I've been in pain ever since. Today I went to his office to have him

> check it out. He took an x-ray, everything looked fine. He thinks the

> cavity may have been drilled out too close to the nerve/root and it may be

> swelled and causing the pain. He says if the swelling doesn't go down then

> the nerve will just cut off it's own blood supply and will dye. If this

> happens, it will get infected and I will need to have a root canal. He

> advised me to just have the root canal done now to avoid any further pain.

> I left telling him I would give it a little more time to see if the the

> swelling goes down and the pain goes away. This is not something that can

> be seen on an x-ray, the x-ray looks fine and the filling is close to the

> root but definitely far enough away in his opinion that it should not be the

> cause of my pain. He also thinks it could be cramping from the shots that

> he gave me before starting the drilling. He says he is using something new

> and has had some complaints. I always think he injects too much of it

> because my entire side of my head went numb from the top of my head to my

> neck. My jaw hurts to open it but definitely the pain is coming from the

> tooth. I'm willing to try anything not to have to go through having a root

> canal. I can't believe this is happening over a little cavity. I just know

> someone out there will have some good advice. You always do. In the

> meantime, I'm taking Motrin for the pain, but as soon as the Motrin wears

> off the pain returns.

> Thanks, Rose

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Hi Rosemarie, It is not the most pleasant thing in the world, but you can bite

down and suck on a clove of garlic and it might help. I have done it in the

past and it has worked. Fresh garlic can burn tho, so if you are really

sensitive you might want to bite and release and bite and release and get the

garlic into the area without burning the gums.

Old home remedy

xo Donna

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Hi Rosemarie,

Have you tried rinsing your mouth with 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and Listerine?

Recently, I had a painful tooth and it felt like it was infected. Several times

each day, I rinsed my mouth with them, focusing my pressure on the area of my

bad tooth. It took a while, but the pain went away. BTY, I used the WalMart

versions to save money.

Also, I thing doing the same thing with Colloidal Silver helped. However, that

consumes a lot of CS. If you don't make your own, I can direct you to a site

that sells it by the gallon for under 30 cents per ounce. That doesn't include

S & H costs. Haven't bought any myself, as I make my own, but was told by someone

on the Silver List that it was good. Let me know if you want the URL.

Good luck,

Steve

> ** Original Subject: Tooth Pain

> ** Original Sender: " Rosemarie Geiger " <gypsy___rose@...>

> ** Original Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 20:36:31 +0000

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Thanks Donna, I'll try it. The pain seems to be less today. I didn't wake

> up with it as I have for the past week and have only taken three Motrin so

> far today. Rose

>

>

> >Hi Rosemarie, It is not the most pleasant thing in the world, but you can

> >bite down and suck on a clove of garlic and it might help. I have done it

> >in the past and it has worked. Fresh garlic can burn tho, so if you are

> >really sensitive you might want to bite and release and bite and release

> >and get the garlic into the area without burning the gums.

> >Old home remedy

> >xo Donna

>

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Get a second opinion from another dentist or start the root canal therapy.

If you are in extreme pain it is unlikely to settle down.

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Re: Tooth Pain

If you have a magnetic pulser, then I would certainly get using it, from my

understanding it should help. Any other thoughts on this?

Greg

Tooth Pain

> Group,

> I really need some fast advise here. I'm in so much pain. Last Tuesday I

> went to the dentist for a normal checkup, he found a small cavity, filled

it

> and I've been in pain ever since. Today I went to his office to have him

> check it out. He took an x-ray, everything looked fine. He thinks the

> cavity may have been drilled out too close to the nerve/root and it may be

> swelled and causing the pain. He says if the swelling doesn't go down

then

> the nerve will just cut off it's own blood supply and will dye. If this

> happens, it will get infected and I will need to have a root canal. He

> advised me to just have the root canal done now to avoid any further pain.

> I left telling him I would give it a little more time to see if the the

> swelling goes down and the pain goes away. This is not something that can

> be seen on an x-ray, the x-ray looks fine and the filling is close to the

> root but definitely far enough away in his opinion that it should not be

the

> cause of my pain. He also thinks it could be cramping from the shots that

> he gave me before starting the drilling. He says he is using something

new

> and has had some complaints. I always think he injects too much of it

> because my entire side of my head went numb from the top of my head to my

> neck. My jaw hurts to open it but definitely the pain is coming from the

> tooth. I'm willing to try anything not to have to go through having a

root

> canal. I can't believe this is happening over a little cavity. I just

know

> someone out there will have some good advice. You always do. In the

> meantime, I'm taking Motrin for the pain, but as soon as the Motrin wears

> off the pain returns.

> Thanks, Rose

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Rose,

Here is the link:

http://silver-lightning.com/ .

Don't forget the WalMart clone of Listerine - it is also a germ killer. The way

I do it is to first rinse my mouth with the Hydrogen Peroxide (which leaves a

bad taste) and then I do the same with the clone. I think it helps plus it

washes out the Peroxide taste. Bad as is the clone's taste (to me), it is less

awful tasting than the Peroxide. Plus, you shouldn't swallow the Peroxide and

rinsing your mouth with the clone helps prevent that happening.

Please keep me informed, and good fortune.

Steve

> ** Original Subject: Tooth Pain

> ** Original Sender: " Rosemarie Geiger " <gypsy___rose@...>

> ** Original Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 01:54:37 +0000

> ** Original Message follows...

>

> Steve,

> Please forward the URL for the Colloidal Silver. I don't make my own and

> I'd like to get some, not only for the tooth ache, but to have on hand. I'm

> going to do the 3% right now. The pain is starting up again and I'm ready

> for more Motrin. Rose

>

>

> >Hi Rosemarie,

> >

> >Have you tried rinsing your mouth with 3% Hydrogen Peroxide and Listerine?

> >Recently, I had a painful tooth and it felt like it was infected. Several

> >times each day, I rinsed my mouth with them, focusing my pressure on the

> >area of my bad tooth. It took a while, but the pain went away. BTY, I

> >used the WalMart versions to save money.

> >

> >Also, I thing doing the same thing with Colloidal Silver helped. However,

> >that consumes a lot of CS. If you don't make your own, I can direct you to

> >a site that sells it by the gallon for under 30 cents per ounce. That

> >doesn't include S & H costs. Haven't bought any myself, as I make my own,

> >but was told by someone on the Silver List that it was good. Let me know if

> >you want the URL.

> >

> >

> >Good luck,

> >

> >Steve

>

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[Guest guest]

Similar war story: This same thing happened to me- I was in one city years

ago having tooth pain and an open minded dentist interested in holistic

dentistry applied clove oil before putting the filling in, and thereby

prevented a root canal. The clove oil stimulated my immune system and caused

the root to pull away from the nerve. Because I was on the artist budget,

she put in a plastic type filling and told me I would need to get it

replaced at some point. Fast forward 5 years to Los Angeles, where a very

arrogant " dentist to the stars " made fun of the filling (put in because of

my budget) and removed it, and I was STILL able to taste the clove oil

placed there years before...Unfortunately, his superiority complex

prevented him from undertaking the study of holistic dentistry, and 2 weeks

later I found myself writhing in pain and needing the root canal my other

dentist had prevented with the clove oil. STRONG ADVICE HERE: SEE A

HOLISTIC DENTIST...he or she might be able to save your tooth like mine was

able to do before the other bonehead got his hands on it....

Tooth Pain

>

>

> > Group,

> > I really need some fast advise here. I'm in so much pain. Last Tuesday

I

> > went to the dentist for a normal checkup, he found a small cavity,

filled

> it

> > and I've been in pain ever since. Today I went to his office to have

him

> > check it out. He took an x-ray, everything looked fine. He thinks the

> > cavity may have been drilled out too close to the nerve/root and it may

be

> > swelled and causing the pain. He says if the swelling doesn't go down

> then

> > the nerve will just cut off it's own blood supply and will dye. If this

> > happens, it will get infected and I will need to have a root canal. He

> > advised me to just have the root canal done now to avoid any further

pain.

> > I left telling him I would give it a little more time to see if the the

> > swelling goes down and the pain goes away. This is not something that

can

> > be seen on an x-ray, the x-ray looks fine and the filling is close to

the

> > root but definitely far enough away in his opinion that it should not be

> the

> > cause of my pain. He also thinks it could be cramping from the shots

that

> > he gave me before starting the drilling. He says he is using something

> new

> > and has had some complaints. I always think he injects too much of it

> > because my entire side of my head went numb from the top of my head to

my

> > neck. My jaw hurts to open it but definitely the pain is coming from

the

> > tooth. I'm willing to try anything not to have to go through having a

> root

> > canal. I can't believe this is happening over a little cavity. I just

> know

> > someone out there will have some good advice. You always do. In the

> > meantime, I'm taking Motrin for the pain, but as soon as the Motrin

wears

> > off the pain returns.

> > Thanks, Rose

> > _________________________________________________________________

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> >

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> own risk. Self-help requires intelligence, common sense, and the ability

to

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[Guest guest]

Rose,

If you don't have a pulser, I wouldn't buy one for this. It might help,

but oil of clove might help more, and is a lot cheaper.

jim

Rosemarie Geiger wrote:

>

> ,

> Thanks for your advice. I don't have a magnetic pulser, but like I said,

> I'm willing to try anything. Can I order one on the internet? Any

> recommendations? How would it be good for what I'm experiencing and what

> other uses does it have, if any? Rose

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son began having incredible tooth pain, sometimes ALL of his teeth hurt,

when he was about age 13 -- which made absolutely no sense as he had never

had a cavity. Our dentist did x-rays and treated him for gingivitis. After we

had the Lyme diagnosis and treatment, all of the tooth and gum problems went

away.

Just passing this along for what it's worth.

Judie

[Guest guest]

Hydrogen peroxide works well for curing and preventing gum disease. Also on the

pain, you can take rubber bands and put on the first knuckle of the hand, on the

side that this person is experiencing the pain, or cloths clips that have the

spring in them. Put them over the entire finger.

Hope this helps,

Gale ^i^

http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com

" Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in

falsehoods school.

And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and

fool. " Plato

We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and

light

tooth pain

My friend has had excruciating pain since Friday, apparently from an abscessed

tooth. A severe infection - the jaw area is noticeably swollen. No dentists

available till Monday. Anyone know of a way to get quick pain relief from such

a condition? And, anyone experienced with the Albrite system for curing and

preventing gum disease? www.Albrite.com.

Corny

[Guest guest]

tooth pain

> My friend has had excruciating pain since Friday, apparently from an abscessed

tooth. A severe infection - the jaw area is noticeably swollen. No dentists

available till Monday. Anyone know of a way to get quick pain relief from such

a condition? And, anyone experienced with the Albrite system for curing and

preventing gum disease? www.Albrite.com.

>

> Corny

Corny,

One of my dogs had such a severe gum infection that the side of her mouth

swelled out like a balloon. I mixed up a preparation of essential oils and

applied it to her mouth for 3 to 4 times a day for the first couple of days, and

then once in the morning and once at night for about a week. After just one day,

the swelling began to diminish and the redness decreased. After a week, the

infection was gone.

Mix together:

1 ounce of " carrier " oil: almond (preferably), sesame, or other light vegetable

oil

about 8 drops of eucalyptus essential oil

about 8 drops of thyme essential oil

about 8 drops of oregano essential oil

about 6 drops of tea tree essential oil

8-10 drops of peppermint essential oil

Put on a cotton swab and apply to gums 3 times/day or as often as needed. Or,

simply drizzle into mouth and hold on the affected areas. It might sting at

first, but after even one day there should be considerable improvement.

The " big 4 " essential oils that are anti-viral, anti-bacterial, and anti-fungal

are eucalyptus, thyme, oregano, and tea tree. Peppermint is not quite as strong,

but will add a pleasing flavor to the mix.

Regards,

Nenah

Nenah Sylver, Ph.D.

Products, services, and information about health

Author (under the name " Nina Silver " ) of

*The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing*

Order the book and read excerpts at

http://www.nenahsylver.com/

[Guest guest]

No you will put a rubber band on each finger. So you will have 5 of them on the

same side of the pain. From what I have read first knuckle of the hand.

Let me know how this works, I am curious myself.

Gale ^i^

http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com

" Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in

falsehoods school.

And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and

fool. " Plato

We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and

light

tooth pain

Thanks Gale and Nenah for the tips. Gale, for the pain you said put rubber

bands on the first knuckle of the hand. Do you mean the index finger? And put

the rubber bands over the entire finger from the tip all the way down to the

knuckle?

Corny

[Guest guest]

Well the H202 will take care of the inside of his mouth, but if the pain is

still there, what harm can it hurt to give it a try.

Also tell him it wouldn't hurt to put some H202 in his ear on that side as well.

Gale ^i^

http://www.AwakeningsEnergy.com

" Strange times are these in which we live, when old and young are taught in

falsehoods school.

And the one man that dares to tell the truth is called at once, a lunatic and

fool. " Plato

We are the fuses in the " global consciousness circuit board " between water and

light

tooth pain

My friend's tooth pain is gone after about 3 hours of keeping a 3% h2o2-soaked

cotton swab on the tooth. Amazing! (or maybe not). He'll keep doing it hoping

that the swelling disappears also. He thought the rubber band idea was " a

little wacko " so he hadn't done it yet. Too bad, I too was curious.

Corny

[Guest guest]

A client of mine recently had a very bad tooth, also much pain from

an abscess. I gave her some colloidal silver and told her to take a

mouthfull and keep it over the tooth as long as possible, then

swallow. She did this about 4 times during that day and the pain

disappeared. Whe her next tooth became infected (pain was worse than

the first one) she called me for some cs again. Worked a second

time. I make my own colloidal silver and always have it in the

house. It's worth a try.

Sandy

> My friend has had excruciating pain since Friday, apparently from

an abscessed tooth. A severe infection - the jaw area is noticeably

swollen. No dentists available till Monday. Anyone know of a way to

get quick pain relief from such a condition? And, anyone experienced

with the Albrite system for curing and preventing gum disease?

www.Albrite.com.

>

> Corny

>

>

[Guest guest]

A client of mine recently had a very bad tooth, also much pain from

an abscess. I gave her some colloidal silver and told her to take a

mouthfull and keep it over the tooth as long as possible, then

swallow. She did this about 4 times during that day and the pain

disappeared. Whe her next tooth became infected (pain was worse than

the first one) she called me for some cs again. Worked a second

time. I make my own colloidal silver and always have it in the

house. It's worth a try.

Sandy

> My friend has had excruciating pain since Friday, apparently from

an abscessed tooth. A severe infection - the jaw area is noticeably

swollen. No dentists available till Monday. Anyone know of a way to

get quick pain relief from such a condition? And, anyone experienced

with the Albrite system for curing and preventing gum disease?

www.Albrite.com.

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I used to get a tooth pain when I had a sinus infection coming on, called it my "sinus tooth." It was a good predictor! It finally went away when I had the last polypectomy and it hasn't come back, even with new sinus infections. i think it had to do with the nerve and infection location. Such wonderful and amazing things with this disease!

Billie in Texas jbca623 <jbca623@...> wrote:

hi all i have a new and strange symptom and am wondering if anyone else hasit, too. one of my upper molars hurts like heck when i blow my nose.i've been to the dentist and it isnt a tooth problem, infection, etc.he said it has something to do with a nerve ending being close to thesinuses? whatever. all i know is that i'm really going to be introuble if i have to stop blowing my nose!jennifer (ny)

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[Guest guest]

Yes, me too. My x-rays at the dentist show that my sinus cavities go down in between the roots of my teeth...not normal, probably caused by all of the polyps and sinus pressure. Sometimes when my sinuses are full/infected I also have tooth pain. It comes & goes. I was just glad it wasn't a cavity.

Good luck.

Stacey in MA

Re: tooth pain

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I used to get a tooth pain when I had a sinus infection coming on, called it my "sinus tooth." It was a good predictor! It finally went away when I had the last polypectomy and it hasn't come back, even with new sinus infections. i think it had to do with the nerve and infection location. Such wonderful and amazing things with this disease!

Billie in Texas jbca623 <jbca623@...> wrote:

hi all i have a new and strange symptom and am wondering if anyone else hasit, too. one of my upper molars hurts like heck when i blow my nose.i've been to the dentist and it isnt a tooth problem, infection, etc.he said it has something to do with a nerve ending being close to thesinuses? whatever. all i know is that i'm really going to be introuble if i have to stop blowing my nose!jennifer (ny)

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, or anyone that maybe able to answer my ? Well I ran out of

supplements and money to buy more. However I still had a little bit of cod liver

oil caps and come cal/mag. I got a constipated I believe from not have the other

supplements, because I am still eating the foods according to the diet and doing

the electrolyte drink.

>

> Being constipated, I started taking more olive oil and butter, and I thought

I'd take the cal/mag, and clo. Well it worked, but then I got tooth pain that

I'd been dealing with about for 2 1/2 months. It had subsided when I stopped

taking all the supplements. When I started taking them again due to being

constipated, I thought what could be causing this tooth pain? Well then I ran

out of cal/mag and the pain stopped and I continued to take the clo.

> I'm planning to buy the supplements again asap, but the toothpain caused by

the cal/mag, I am not looking forward to.

+++Hi Angie. The reason you " think " cal/mag caused toothpain was because it

caused healing reactions in your teeth, which are obviously necessary for you

teeth. Cal/mag is extremely important for the health of your bones and teeth.

So it is very important that to take cal/mag. Your teeth will eventually heal

themselves if you are completely on the diet and taking all of the supplements.

I suggest you put a priority on getting cal/mag, however you can save money by

making Eggshell Calcium Citrate:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/supp2.php

All the best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hey Chemo-Sabi,

Hang in there. Give it some time.

The eye bleeds are really scary looking. I get several a year without any

discomfort. The only way I know that I have one is when my wife mentions it

to me. I then look in the mirror and say wow.

Zavie

Zavie (age 71)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

e-mail: zmiller@...

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

ryanromero49er

Sent: November 4, 2009 11:29 AM

Subject: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hi everyone!

Its , I have a question... I have been on Gleevec for a week now and boy

to I feel like crap. No energy, tired all of the time, and now my teeth and

gums are hurting.... I don't have any cavities.... Basically I feel like I

have the flu all the time. My legs hurt, head, teeth now, tired etc....

Those of you that have been on it have you experienced the same thing? I

know you guys told me that in 30 days my body should adjust.... That's good

news. Now I am hearing about bleeding eyes! I'm a young man (27) Is this all

stuff I should be looking forward too?

Thanks guys!

Love you all!

Romero

" Chemo-Sabi "

[Guest guest]

Thanks Zavie! When would I expect to get those???

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Zavie

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:50 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hey Chemo-Sabi,

Hang in there. Give it some time.

The eye bleeds are really scary looking. I get several a year without

any

discomfort. The only way I know that I have one is when my wife mentions

it

to me. I then look in the mirror and say wow.

Zavie

Zavie (age 71)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

e-mail: zmiller@... <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca>

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

_____

From: <mailto:%40> [mailto:

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

ryanromero49er

Sent: November 4, 2009 11:29 AM

<mailto:%40>

Subject: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hi everyone!

Its , I have a question... I have been on Gleevec for a week now and

boy

to I feel like crap. No energy, tired all of the time, and now my teeth

and

gums are hurting.... I don't have any cavities.... Basically I feel like

I

have the flu all the time. My legs hurt, head, teeth now, tired etc....

Those of you that have been on it have you experienced the same thing? I

know you guys told me that in 30 days my body should adjust.... That's

good

news. Now I am hearing about bleeding eyes! I'm a young man (27) Is this

all

stuff I should be looking forward too?

Thanks guys!

Love you all!

Romero

" Chemo-Sabi "

[Guest guest]

Yes that is how it was with me too. They go away in a few days. They were

not a huge concern.

I just found some notes I made back in 2004 when I first started Gleevec. I

say that the best way for me to take my gleevec was with a glass of milk. I

tolerated it that way. And I took it at 10:30 just before I went to bed. My

rash started only two weeks after taking it and it went away but came back

and stayed. I was one of the unfortunate ones that could not handle the side

effects. The rash was all over my body even face. Nothing would help. They

even tried steroids. I finally had to go off it and on to Sprycel. Which was

better.

One thing to remember is your QOL is very important and you have many

options. Some people do very well on Gleevec!!! Very well.

Sharon T

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Zavie

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:50 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hey Chemo-Sabi,

Hang in there. Give it some time.

The eye bleeds are really scary looking. I get several a year without any

discomfort. The only way I know that I have one is when my wife mentions it

to me. I then look in the mirror and say wow.

Zavie

Zavie (age 71)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

e-mail: zmillersympatico (DOT) <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> ca

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

_____

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf Of

ryanromero49er

Sent: November 4, 2009 11:29 AM

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Subject: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hi everyone!

Its , I have a question... I have been on Gleevec for a week now and boy

to I feel like crap. No energy, tired all of the time, and now my teeth and

gums are hurting.... I don't have any cavities.... Basically I feel like I

have the flu all the time. My legs hurt, head, teeth now, tired etc....

Those of you that have been on it have you experienced the same thing? I

know you guys told me that in 30 days my body should adjust.... That's good

news. Now I am hearing about bleeding eyes! I'm a young man (27) Is this all

stuff I should be looking forward too?

Thanks guys!

Love you all!

Romero

" Chemo-Sabi "

[Guest guest]

You may never get them!!!!

Think positive.

Sharon

_____

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of

Romero,

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:51 AM

Subject: RE: [ ] Tooth Pain

Thanks Zavie! When would I expect to get those???

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

[mailto:groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com] On Behalf Of

Zavie

Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:50 AM

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

Subject: RE: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hey Chemo-Sabi,

Hang in there. Give it some time.

The eye bleeds are really scary looking. I get several a year without

any

discomfort. The only way I know that I have one is when my wife mentions

it

to me. I then look in the mirror and say wow.

Zavie

Zavie (age 71)

67 Shoreham Avenue

Ottawa, Canada, K2G 3X3

dxd AUG/99

INF OCT/99 to FEB/00, CHF

No meds FEB/00 to JAN/01

Gleevec since MAR/27/01 (400 mg)

CCR SEP/01. #102 in Zero Club

2.8 log reduction Sep/05

3.0 log reduction Jan/06

2.9 log reduction Feb/07

3.6 log reduction Apr/08

3.6 log reduction Sep/08

3.7 log reduction Jan/09

3.8 log reduction May/09

3.8 log reduction Aug/09

e-mail: zmillersympatico (DOT) <mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca> ca

<mailto:zmiller%40sympatico.ca>

Tel: 613-726-1117

Fax: 613-482-4801

Cell: 613-282-0204

ID: zaviem

_____

From: groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

<mailto:%40> [mailto:

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

<mailto:%40> ] On Behalf Of

ryanromero49er

Sent: November 4, 2009 11:29 AM

groups (DOT) <mailto:%40> com

<mailto:%40>

Subject: [ ] Tooth Pain

Hi everyone!

Its , I have a question... I have been on Gleevec for a week now and

boy

to I feel like crap. No energy, tired all of the time, and now my teeth

and

gums are hurting.... I don't have any cavities.... Basically I feel like

I

have the flu all the time. My legs hurt, head, teeth now, tired etc....

Those of you that have been on it have you experienced the same thing? I

know you guys told me that in 30 days my body should adjust.... That's

good

news. Now I am hearing about bleeding eyes! I'm a young man (27) Is this

all

stuff I should be looking forward too?

Thanks guys!

Love you all!

Romero

" Chemo-Sabi "

[Guest guest]

hey ,

the side effects do go away, my dad had the muscle pain in the legs, so bad he

could not sit or walk, they took him off gleevec for a week, started him a week

later on 100 m twice a day and then bumped him up to 200m twice a day. i have

read drinking lots of water helps and so does taking magnesium, as far as the

eyes the only thing i have read about is swelling, which my dad is going through

now, Hang in there my friend it will get better.

all the best,

 

From: ryanromero49er <ryan.romero@...>

Subject: [ ] Tooth Pain

Date: Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 4:29 PM

 

Hi everyone!

Its , I have a question... I have been on Gleevec for a week now and boy to

I feel like crap. No energy, tired all of the time, and now my teeth and gums

are hurting.... I don't have any cavities.... Basically I feel like I have the

flu all the time. My legs hurt, head, teeth now, tired etc....

Those of you that have been on it have you experienced the same thing? I know

you guys told me that in 30 days my body should adjust.... That's good news. Now

I am hearing about bleeding eyes! I'm a young man (27) Is this all stuff I

should be looking forward too?

Thanks guys!

Love you all!

Romero

" Chemo-Sabi "

[Guest guest]

here is something i found, you might want to give it a try.

I've been on Gleevec since 1999 and had multiple eye bleeds until, at the

recommendation of someone in the group, I started taking bilberry extract

(bought in the grocery store.) I haven't had one since. I don't know if it's

a coincidence, but I doubt it.

Gay

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