Guest guest Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 - it has to be a vaccine with a DEAD virus - then it is certainly safer than getting the flu - In a message dated 10/3/2009 3:09:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, plorenz7795@... writes: I'm going to play the heretic here and ask why, with all this talkabout whether or not we CLLers should get vaccinated, no oneis questioning the safety of the flu vaccine itself.Based on my reading on the issue, I believe the flu would be lessdangerous than the vaccine, especially for children. I have an entire list of articles that warn of the risks from the vaccine.Are we really that trusting in the vaccine makers and the safety of their products, many of which have received minimal or no testing, hiddeningredients known as adjuvants, thimerosal, and god knows what else?If interested, write me and I'll send you a list of articlesthat raise multiple red flags. And I have not even touched upon thepolitical implications of mandatory vaccinations, draconian laws passedin Massachusetts, or martial law.Believe what you want to believe, but make it an informed belief, fromsources other than television and corporate controlled newspapers.Sincerely, Lorenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 , Knowing this, I still won't get a vaccination, because no Medical Physician here will write a written statement on paper and sign the note that there are no thermosols in their shot, or in the swine flu H1N1, but thanks for your effort. By the way, I have never been hospitalized for a flu, nor do I ever get any flu, and secondly, by some co-workers they tell me we have a shortage of the vaccinations. Thanks, Dory Doggie ________________________________ From: fran99504 <airstrip@...> Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 6:47:03 PM Subject: [ ] Re: H1N1 flu vaccine I agree with about not risking getting sick, so I went ahead and got the H1N1 vaccine. I've had no side effects. Fran from Alaska > > > > The thing about vaccination I never have ever gotten a flu shot, and that is because I don't support the thermosols which is the preservatives in the liquids of the vaccination. Plus you never know what the > > strain of flu is coming around and taking a vaccination to prevent a flu, isn't going to help one. > ____________ _________ > > Both Dr. Talpaz and Dr. Druker recommend that their patients get the H1N1 vaccine..... but it is an individual decision. I figure that I have worked to hard to survive CML, I am not going to be knocked off by the flu!! or hospitalized. > > Dory....you can get an individual swine flu shot that does NOT have any preservative in it.....only the large vials for multiple shots have the perservative. I went to a Public Health swine flu shot clinic and if you were in the high risk category, they gave you the individual shot, so no preservative. Did not even have to ask...that was how it was set up. > C. > Posted by: " ÉmileFichault " fichovideotron (DOT) ca efichault Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:40 pm (PST) What do you think about having the H1N1 flu vaccine ? Any of you already taken it ? What about side effects ? Emile # 527 Zavie's Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 19, 2009 Report Share Posted November 19, 2009 http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/09-06-03#feature  Long, but thorough and interesting, discussion about vaccines with a section on Thermosols.  Ted From: Dory Doggie <hellodoggie0009@...> Subject: Re: [ ] Re: H1N1 flu vaccine Date: Thursday, November 19, 2009, 2:32 AM  , Knowing this, I still won't get a vaccination, because no Medical Physician here will write a written statement on paper and sign the note that there are no thermosols in their shot, or in the swine flu H1N1, but thanks for your effort. By the way, I have never been hospitalized for a flu, nor do I ever get any flu, and secondly, by some co-workers they tell me we have a shortage of the vaccinations. Thanks, Dory Doggie ____________ _________ _________ __ From: fran99504 <airstripgci (DOT) net> groups (DOT) com Sent: Wed, November 18, 2009 6:47:03 PM Subject: [ ] Re: H1N1 flu vaccine I agree with about not risking getting sick, so I went ahead and got the H1N1 vaccine. I've had no side effects. Fran from Alaska > > > > The thing about vaccination I never have ever gotten a flu shot, and that is because I don't support the thermosols which is the preservatives in the liquids of the vaccination. Plus you never know what the > > strain of flu is coming around and taking a vaccination to prevent a flu, isn't going to help one. > ____________ _________ > > Both Dr. Talpaz and Dr. Druker recommend that their patients get the H1N1 vaccine..... but it is an individual decision. I figure that I have worked to hard to survive CML, I am not going to be knocked off by the flu!! or hospitalized. > > Dory....you can get an individual swine flu shot that does NOT have any preservative in it.....only the large vials for multiple shots have the perservative. I went to a Public Health swine flu shot clinic and if you were in the high risk category, they gave you the individual shot, so no preservative. Did not even have to ask...that was how it was set up. > C. > Posted by: " ÉmileFichault " fichovideotron (DOT) ca efichault Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:40 pm (PST) What do you think about having the H1N1 flu vaccine ? Any of you already taken it ? What about side effects ? Emile # 527 Zavie's Club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Hi Vicki, My daughter had some side effects from the h1n1 too. Hers was lightheadedness, dizziness, shaky, and weak. It was the third day after the injection. She was pretty worried but is now doing ok. I'm sorry you had side effects also. God Bless, Jackie S From: Vicki <vickistu@...> Subject: [ ] Re: H1N1 flu vaccine Date: Thursday, November 26, 2009, 2:12 AM  I did get the H1N1 vaccine--it is a fitness for duty requirement at the hospital where I work in Seattle (Virginia Mason), and I did have a slight reaction to it, I think. I had one evening of chilling and slight fever (99.5 degrees) and one episode of vomiting. The next day I was fine. I had both the regular flu and H1N1 vaccinations on the same day--so it may have been that that made me feel a bit sick. I think it was just my immune response kicking in. My heme/onc doctor told me to get the vaccines, also. Vicki > > What do you think about having the H1N1 flu vaccine ? > Any of you already taken it ? > What about side effects ? > > Emile > # 527 Zavie's Club > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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