Re: bed-wetting / increased ictal activity

[Guest guest]

On the bed wetting thread, whenever we address even mild forms of chelation,

we get increases in bed wetting. Our doctor felt that we were seeing

increasing ictal activity during sleep. Has anyone been given the same

feedback? It is the one reason we have thus far stayed away from the DMSA.

[Guest guest]

My son is LKS variant, which our neuro feels most regressive autistic cases

will be eventual labeled for better insurance coverage. No seizures, just

diffusely abnormal EEG with no epileptic activity...hence not LKS, just a

variant.

No antimony problems...hair, urine, etc.

We're a no milk family...hormones, etc.

No apnea, no subclinical seizures, just the ictal mess after probably toxin

related

Thyroid ruled out all over the board...allopathic, alternative...always goes

back to the

liver

If PST, does not respond to epsom salts baths..blows him out..but I'd love to

hear more on the bed gasses. That's a first for us.

And thank you for the two cents...we value it!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi -

After 3 days of DMSA, my daughter (who has uses a pull up at night)

decreased her nightly urine output (while we increased the amount of

liquids to her). What is ictal activity? We had incredible results

this weekend and this was our first time with DMSA. I'm

between " teary-eyed " , because she has been a normal 6 year old all

weekend, and " so angry I could spit " , because I trusted the doctors

with the HepB at birth. I'll post our results later tonite if anyone

is interested.

Thanks -

> On the bed wetting thread, whenever we address even mild forms of

chelation,

> we get increases in bed wetting. Our doctor felt that we were

seeing

> increasing ictal activity during sleep. Has anyone been given the

same

> feedback? It is the one reason we have thus far stayed away from

the DMSA.

>

[Guest guest]

Ictal activity is subclinical seizures or the aftermath of a seizure. Have

you looked in LKS (lanedau kleffner syndrome) as possibly a cause?

In my experience on this, bedwetting means to me

1. The child has problems with smooth muscles, SAMe helps (does she have

antimony poisining?)

2. The child should be off milk

3. The child has subclinical to clinical seizures activity at night or even

apnea

4. Thyroid aspects (hypothyroidism)

5. Sometimes the bed outgasses hefty mixes of fumes she is allergic to, or

she is PST

Just my two cents

Kathy

[ ] Re: bed-wetting / increased ictal activity

>Hi -

>

>After 3 days of DMSA, my daughter (who has uses a pull up at night)

>decreased her nightly urine output (while we increased the amount of

>liquids to her). What is ictal activity? We had incredible results

>this weekend and this was our first time with DMSA. I'm

>between " teary-eyed " , because she has been a normal 6 year old all

>weekend, and " so angry I could spit " , because I trusted the doctors

>with the HepB at birth. I'll post our results later tonite if anyone

>is interested.

>

>Thanks -

>

>

>> On the bed wetting thread, whenever we address even mild forms of

>chelation,

>> we get increases in bed wetting. Our doctor felt that we were

>seeing

>> increasing ictal activity during sleep. Has anyone been given the

>same

>> feedback? It is the one reason we have thus far stayed away from

>the DMSA.

>>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> Hi -

>

> After 3 days of DMSA, my daughter (who has uses a pull up at night)

> decreased her nightly urine output (while we increased the amount of

> liquids to her). What is ictal activity? We had incredible results

> this weekend and this was our first time with DMSA. I'm

> between " teary-eyed " , because she has been a normal 6 year old all

> weekend, and " so angry I could spit " , because I trusted the doctors

> with the HepB at birth. I'll post our results later tonite if anyone

> is interested.

yes please do. I'd love to hear. We will shortly be starting this

journey and eager to hear from others just starting out. What did you

do prior to the dmsa? Thanks. nne

[Guest guest]

HAve you don the iodine test to your child for thyroid? (wiliss's paper)

This will give you a better indication of thyroid problems, probably wasn't

done yet? Someone on the list awhile back spoke of beds outgassing lots of

things like benzene and other lovelies, I will try to get that out to you?

PST if more than an epsom salt bath protocol, it also involves taking the

child off things that are poisining them, ie colored vegees, sulphar bearing

foods, salyciatates, tartrazine, etc etc etc. (see www.feingold.org ) for

further details-

Re: [ ] Re: bed-wetting / increased ictal activity

>My son is LKS variant, which our neuro feels most regressive autistic cases

>will be eventual labeled for better insurance coverage. No seizures, just

>diffusely abnormal EEG with no epileptic activity...hence not LKS, just a

>variant.

>

>No antimony problems...hair, urine, etc.

>We're a no milk family...hormones, etc.

>No apnea, no subclinical seizures, just the ictal mess after probably toxin

>related

>Thyroid ruled out all over the board...allopathic, alternative...always

goes

>back to the

> liver

>If PST, does not respond to epsom salts baths..blows him out..but I'd love

to

>hear more on the bed gasses. That's a first for us.

>And thank you for the two cents...we value it!!!!

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What's tartrazine? My daughter's off all the other food items you

mentioned, but I haven't run across that one, yet.

Re: [ ] Re: bed-wetting / increased ictal activity

>

>

> >My son is LKS variant, which our neuro feels most regressive autistic

cases

> >will be eventual labeled for better insurance coverage. No seizures,

just

> >diffusely abnormal EEG with no epileptic activity...hence not LKS, just a

> >variant.

> >

> >No antimony problems...hair, urine, etc.

> >We're a no milk family...hormones, etc.

> >No apnea, no subclinical seizures, just the ictal mess after probably

toxin

> >related

> >Thyroid ruled out all over the board...allopathic, alternative...always

> goes

> >back to the

> > liver

> >If PST, does not respond to epsom salts baths..blows him out..but I'd

love

> to

> >hear more on the bed gasses. That's a first for us.

> >And thank you for the two cents...we value it!!!!

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I THINK tartrazine is a common yellow food coloring, FDC yellow#5.

Beverly

--- In egroups, " lisa edmond " <sjcsydney@h...>

wrote:

> What's tartrazine? My daughter's off all the other food items you

> mentioned, but I haven't run across that one, yet.

>

>

> Re: [ ] Re: bed-wetting / increased ictal

activity

> >

> >

> > >My son is LKS variant, which our neuro feels most regressive

autistic

> cases

> > >will be eventual labeled for better insurance coverage. No

seizures,

> just

> > >diffusely abnormal EEG with no epileptic activity...hence not

LKS, just a

> > >variant.

> > >

> > >No antimony problems...hair, urine, etc.

> > >We're a no milk family...hormones, etc.

> > >No apnea, no subclinical seizures, just the ictal mess after

probably

> toxin

> > >related

> > >Thyroid ruled out all over the board...allopathic,

alternative...always

> > goes

> > >back to the

> > > liver

> > >If PST, does not respond to epsom salts baths..blows him

out..but I'd

> love

> > to

> > >hear more on the bed gasses. That's a first for us.

> > >And thank you for the two cents...we value it!!!!

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/2/2000 3:10:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

_@... writes:

<<

After 3 days of DMSA, my daughter (who has uses a pull up at night)

decreased her nightly urine output (while we increased the amount of

liquids to her). What is ictal activity? We had incredible results

this weekend and this was our first time with DMSA. I'm

between " teary-eyed " , because she has been a normal 6 year old all

weekend, and " so angry I could spit " , because I trusted the doctors

with the HepB at birth. I'll post our results later tonite if anyone

is interested.

>>

, I believe the protocol you were going to follow was Chemet 100mg 3x

per day per Dr. Bradstreet. Is this correct?

I'm happy to hear your daughter did so well.

Continued luck

Aurlra