Guest guest Posted May 15, 2002 Report Share Posted May 15, 2002 Hi, My name is Daren, I am 37 and I believe I may have RA, and I am scared, I have severe pain in my hands and wrists I have been tested for Carpel Tunnel which came back negative, I don't have the symptoms of Fibromyalgia, my pain has been going on since November I have had 2 blood tests done both came back negative for RA but my Doc says it may not show in the blood right away. I am on Naproxen for the pain, I have a 3 year old son and i want to be around for him for many years to come, If I have RA how do I deal with it? and how will it affect my life? any suggestions? at this point anything would really be helpfull!!! The way I wrote that may seem stupid but I didn't want to go on about things and wanted to get to the point. Daren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 Hi Daren Welcome…. Both my husband and I are sero negative rheumatoid arthritis….the blood work is normal….so it gets confusing for the doctors…other than one reading where I had a high normal sed rate reading.. perhaps push your doctor for a bone scan to make a true diagnosis of inflammatory processes and bone disturbance… if you get aggressive early treatment it can help you a whole lot Good luck and maybe something in the article will help you sincerely Diagnosis of RA can be difficult, because there is no one particular test that definitively confirms RA. Symptoms and lab findings of RA can be similar to those of other diseases. Therefore, the patient's family history, symptoms and signs along with lab results are used in diagnosing RA. X-rays are not really diagnostic in early stages of the disease because of the absence of apparent bone damage. However, X-rays can be used in later stages of the disease to help the doctor monitor disease progression. According to the American Rheumatism Association, there are eleven criteria for diagnosing RA. Seven of the eleven are required for diagnosis of classic RA, five for definitive RA, three for probable RA. Four laboratory findings included in these criteria are positive serum tests for rheumatoid factor, poor mucin clotting of synovial fluid, characteristic histologic changes in synovium, and characteristic histologic changes in rheumatoid nodules [3]. Synovial fluid can have a turbid appearance which reflects an increase white blood cell count. The white blood cell count reflects the degree of inflammation. An elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and an increase in serum levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) also indicate the presence of an inflammatory response [4]. People with RA have increased levels of alpha-1 and alpha-2 globulins which are acute phase reactants involved in the inflammatory response. Mucin clots in the synovial fluid can have decreased viscosity due to a decrease in hyaluronic acid [1]. Also, patients may have moderate normocytic hypochromic anemia with decreased serum iron, normal total iron-binding capacity, and normal iron stores [3]. Another important test is the detection of rheumatoid factor. Rheumatoid factor is usually detected serologically. The slide agglutination test is used only for screening, and positives should be confirmed using nephelometry or the ELISA method to measure rheumatoid factor titers. In RA, titers are often 1:640 to 1:5120. Titers in conditions other than RA are usually <1:80 [4]. However, the absence of rheumatoid factor does not rule out the presence of RA. Rheumatoid factor can also be present in people with syphilis, leprosy, and other inflammatory conditions. Approximately 10-50% of patients with RA also have low titers of antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) [1]. Rheumatoid Arthritis We have met the enemy... Most people know this form of arthritis as the 'crippling disease' because it does just that - cripples the joints. However, rheumatoid arthritis does not affect just the joints, it attacks other body systems as well, including the heart, nervous system, blood and even the lungs. Why should an arthritic disease attack other areas of the body? The answer lies in the process that causes the joint problem - the body suddenly does not recognize itself and forms 'antibodies' against itself. These antibodies attack the foreign invaders (the body's own tissues) and pretty soon the internal systems begin to crumble under the weight of the immune attack. In essence, this is the Pogo legacy: 'We have met the enemy and he is us.' Joints seem to be the predominant focus of this disease. The joints most often affected include the wrists, knees, elbows, shoulders, ankles, and 'knuckles'. Joint destruction is an early manifestation of this disease and there is usually X-ray evidence of damage within 3 years of onset of symptoms. Since rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a whole body disease, it is not unusual for the patient to feel general fatigue, loss of appetite, weight loss and depression. Indeed, these symptoms, along with some initial joint pains, may be the only sign of RA's presence. Most patients go for an average of 36 weeks before a diagnosis is made. Mimickers Other diseases may mimic RA and this makes it more difficult for the physician to correctly diagnose subtle cases. Osteoarthritis, Lyme disease, gout, even some forms of cancer can present just like RA. It is helpful at times to be able to exclude osteoarthritis quickly. This can sometimes be done on the first visit by the type of joint involved. Osteoarthritis, for example, does not attack the wrists or the knuckles, as does RA. Diagnosis, for the most part, hinges upon common lab tests. Some components of the blood count are deranged (mild anemia, elevated sedimentation rate or the rate that blood sediments on standing) and finally a rheumatoid 'factor' test (titer). While some true RA patients will not show a positive rheumatoid factor at all, at least 70% will show some reactivity of a significant level. This factor is actually a test for an immunoglobulin made by the body against its own tissues. Sometimes the joint involvement is so severe during 'flare' attacks that physicians can obtain a sample of joint fluid for analysis that will assist in making the diagnosis (or 'ruling out' other mimickers). X-rays, while helpful to establish or follow joint involvement, cannot be used to confirm this diagnosis. *Criteria for diagnosing Rheumatoid Arthritis (after the American College of Rheumatology) 1. Morning stiffness > 1 hour's duration 2. Arthritis of at least three joint groups with soft tissue swelling or fluid 3. Swelling involving at least one of the following joint groups: proximal interphalangeal, metacarpophalangeal, or wrists 4. Symmetrical joint swelling 5. Subcutaneous nodules 6. Positive rheumatoid factor test 7. Radiographic changes consistent with RA *5 of the 7 criteria are needed to confirm the diagnosis Hope this helps Sincerely Sam -----Original Message----- From: Dot.Com [mailto:dot.communicator@...] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:44 AM 'arthritis ' Subject: RE: [arthritis] Rheumatoid Factor/Numbers?/links/ Importance: High Hi … this little blurb might help you find some answers…. Diagnosis of RA can be difficult, because there is no one particular test that definitively confirms RA. Symptoms and lab findings of RA can be similar to those of other diseases. Therefore, the patient's family history, symptoms and signs along with lab results are used in diagnosing RA. X-rays are not really diagnostic in early stages of the disease because of the absence of apparent bone damage. However, X-rays can be used in later stages of the disease to help the doctor monitor disease progression. According to the American Rheumatism Association, there are eleven criteria for diagnosing RA. Seven of the eleven are required for diagnosis of classic RA, five for definitive RA, three for probable RA. Four laboratory findings included in these criteria are positive serum tests for rheumatoid factor, poor mucin clotting of synovial fluid, characteristic histologic changes in synovium, and characteristic histologic changes in rheumatoid nodules [3]. Synovial fluid can have a turbid appearance which reflects an increase white blood cell count. The white blood cell count reflects the degree of inflammation. An elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and an increase in serum levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) also indicate the presence of an inflammatory response [4]. People with RA have increased levels of alpha-1 and alpha-2 globulins which are acute phase reactants involved in the inflammatory response. Mucin clots in the synovial fluid can have decreased viscosity due to a decrease in hyaluronic acid [1]. Also, patients may have moderate normocytic hypochromic anemia with decreased serum iron, normal total iron-binding capacity, and normal iron stores [3]. Another important test is the detection of rheumatoid factor. Rheumatoid factor is usually detected serologically. The slide agglutination test is used only for screening, and positives should be confirmed using nephelometry or the ELISA method to measure rheumatoid factor titers. In RA, titers are often 1:640 to 1:5120. Titers in conditions other than RA are usually <1:80 [4]. However, the absence of rheumatoid factor does not rule out the presence of RA. Rheumatoid factor can also be present in people with syphilis, leprosy, and other inflammatory conditions. Approximately 10-50% of patients with RA also have low titers of antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) [1]. Good Luck Sincerely Sam -----Original Message----- From: darensother [mailto:darensother@...] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:53 PM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: New member here, With questions!! (scared) Hi, My name is Daren, I am 37 and I believe I may have RA, and I am scared, I have severe pain in my hands and wrists I have been tested for Carpel Tunnel which came back negative, I don't have the symptoms of Fibromyalgia, my pain has been going on since November I have had 2 blood tests done both came back negative for RA but my Doc says it may not show in the blood right away. I am on Naproxen for the pain, I have a 3 year old son and i want to be around for him for many years to come, If I have RA how do I deal with it? and how will it affect my life? any suggestions? at this point anything would really be helpfull!!! The way I wrote that may seem stupid but I didn't want to go on about things and wanted to get to the point. Daren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 16, 2002 Report Share Posted May 16, 2002 Daren My name is Ginlyn, I also so started out with pain in my hands, it took time for the inflammation and stiffness to start. What two blood tests for Ra did they run? Your Doctor is right the RA may not show in blood tests right off from the get go. If I were you I would go to a Rheumatologist which is the kind of Doctor that takes care of Arthritis. You need them to give you a physical, Tell them the symptoms and keep pushing if they know their stuff you are in great hands, but if you feel they are not doing what they should then keep looking until you are satisfied. The pain in hands and wrists are often the beginning signs of RA also not feeling well, low grade temp, and fatique, but it sounds like you are about to the point of the stiffness at some point and inflammation. If it is RA you need meds to be started before damage to the joints begins, you should have time before that. Don't panic you need to keep your head on straight to get what has to be done. If you need to talk or just let things out you can e-mail me at gw14832@.... Ginlyn __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 , Thanks for replying to with so much information it is so nice of you to take the time to reply. here are the answer to some of your questions you asked me. 1. The blood test I had done was for " Rhematoid factor " , cell counts (CBC's)and a few other tests that I am not sure what the names were but it all came back in the " normal " range. 2. X-Rays were taken and the doc said everything was normal. 3. My doctor is a Rheumatologist. 4. I had a nerve conductivity test done to see if it was Carpal Tunnel which came back " Normal " 5. out of the seven Criterias that you sent me I can honestly say I have... 1. Morning stiffness > 1 hour's duration YES 2. Arthritis of at least three joint groups with soft tissue swelling or fluid DOC WOULD HAVE TO CHECK FOR THAT 3. Swelling involving at least one of the following joint groups: proximal interphalangeal, metacarpophalangeal, or wrists YES, MY WRISTS 4. Symmetrical joint swelling YES BOTH WRISTS AND BOTH ANKLES 5. Subcutaneous nodules NO 6. Positive rheumatoid factor test NO IT CAME BACK NEGATIVE 7. Radiographic changes consistent with RA DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROCEDURE DONE *5 of the 7 criteria are needed to confirm the diagnosis I talked to my doc yesterday and he has changed my medication to ETODOLAC which is similar to Celebrex, instead of naproxin. He also said that there really isn't any more tests that can be performed to diagnose my symptoms until my symtoms worsen or change, so it is either a mild case of carpel tunnel syndrome or first stages of RA. So, I guess I just wait. Well, thanks again for replying to me, I hope everything is going well for YOU, take care. Daren __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2002 Report Share Posted May 17, 2002 : I printed out the information you submitted. Thanks. Beatrice. >From: " Dot.Com " <dot.communicator@...> >Reply-Rheumatoid Arthritis >Rheumatoid Arthritis >Subject: RE: New member here, With questions!! >(scared) >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:07:59 -0500 > >Hi Daren > >Welcome…. > >Both my husband and I are sero negative rheumatoid arthritis….the blood >work is normal….so it gets confusing for the doctors…other than one >reading where I had a high normal sed rate reading.. > > > >perhaps push your doctor for a bone scan to make a true diagnosis of >inflammatory processes and bone disturbance… > > > >if you get aggressive early treatment it can help you a whole lot > >Good luck and maybe something in the article will help you > >sincerely > > > > > > Diagnosis of RA can be difficult, because there is no one particular >test that definitively confirms RA. Symptoms and lab findings of RA can >be similar to those of other diseases. Therefore, the patient's family >history, symptoms and signs along with lab results are used in >diagnosing RA. > > X-rays are not really diagnostic in early stages of the disease >because of the absence of apparent bone damage. However, X-rays can be >used in later stages of the disease to help the doctor monitor disease >progression. According to the American Rheumatism Association, there are >eleven criteria for diagnosing RA. Seven of the eleven are required for >diagnosis of classic RA, five for definitive RA, three for probable RA. >Four laboratory findings included in these criteria are positive serum >tests for rheumatoid factor, poor mucin clotting of synovial fluid, >characteristic histologic changes in synovium, and characteristic >histologic changes in rheumatoid nodules [3]. Synovial fluid can have a >turbid appearance which reflects an increase white blood cell count. >The white blood cell count reflects the degree of inflammation. An >elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and an increase in serum levels >of C-reactive protein (CRP) also indicate the presence of an >inflammatory response [4]. People with RA have increased levels of >alpha-1 and alpha-2 globulins which are acute phase reactants involved >in the inflammatory response. Mucin clots in the synovial fluid can >have decreased viscosity due to a decrease in hyaluronic acid [1]. Also, >patients may have moderate normocytic hypochromic anemia with decreased >serum iron, normal total iron-binding capacity, and normal iron stores >[3]. Another important test is the detection of rheumatoid factor. >Rheumatoid factor is usually detected serologically. The slide >agglutination test is used only for screening, and positives should be >confirmed using nephelometry or the ELISA method to measure rheumatoid >factor titers. In RA, titers are often 1:640 to 1:5120. Titers in >conditions other than RA are usually <1:80 [4]. However, the absence of >rheumatoid factor does not rule out the presence of RA. Rheumatoid >factor can also be present in people with syphilis, leprosy, and other >inflammatory conditions. Approximately 10-50% of patients with RA also >have low titers of antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) [1]. > >Rheumatoid Arthritis > > > >We have met the enemy... > >Most people know this form of arthritis as the 'crippling disease' >because it does just that - cripples the joints. However, rheumatoid >arthritis does not affect just the joints, it attacks other body systems >as well, including the heart, nervous system, blood and even the lungs. > >Why should an arthritic disease attack other areas of the body? The >answer lies in the process that causes the joint problem - the body >suddenly does not recognize itself and forms 'antibodies' against >itself. These antibodies attack the foreign invaders (the body's own >tissues) and pretty soon the internal systems begin to crumble under the >weight of the immune attack. In essence, this is the Pogo legacy: 'We >have met the enemy and he is us.' > >Joints seem to be the predominant focus of this disease. The joints most >often affected include the wrists, knees, elbows, shoulders, ankles, and >'knuckles'. Joint destruction is an early manifestation of this disease >and there is usually X-ray evidence of damage within 3 years of onset of >symptoms. > >Since rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a whole body disease, it is not >unusual for the patient to feel general fatigue, loss of appetite, >weight loss and depression. Indeed, these symptoms, along with some >initial joint pains, may be the only sign of RA's presence. Most >patients go for an average of 36 weeks before a diagnosis is made. > >Mimickers > >Other diseases may mimic RA and this makes it more difficult for the >physician to correctly diagnose subtle cases. Osteoarthritis, Lyme >disease, gout, even some forms of cancer can present just like RA. It is >helpful at times to be able to exclude osteoarthritis quickly. This can >sometimes be done on the first visit by the type of joint involved. >Osteoarthritis, for example, does not attack the wrists or the knuckles, >as does RA. > >Diagnosis, for the most part, hinges upon common lab tests. Some >components of the blood count are deranged (mild anemia, elevated >sedimentation rate or the rate that blood sediments on standing) and >finally a rheumatoid 'factor' test (titer). While some true RA patients >will not show a positive rheumatoid factor at all, at least 70% will >show some reactivity of a significant level. This factor is actually a >test for an immunoglobulin made by the body against its own tissues. > >Sometimes the joint involvement is so severe during 'flare' attacks that >physicians can obtain a sample of joint fluid for analysis that will >assist in making the diagnosis (or 'ruling out' other mimickers). > >X-rays, while helpful to establish or follow joint involvement, cannot >be used to confirm this diagnosis. > > >*Criteria for diagnosing Rheumatoid Arthritis (after the American >College of Rheumatology) > > >1. Morning stiffness > 1 hour's duration >2. Arthritis of at least three joint groups with soft tissue swelling or >fluid >3. Swelling involving at least one of the following joint groups: >proximal interphalangeal, metacarpophalangeal, or wrists >4. Symmetrical joint swelling >5. Subcutaneous nodules >6. Positive rheumatoid factor test >7. Radiographic changes consistent with RA > > >*5 of the 7 criteria are needed to confirm the diagnosis > > > > > >Hope this helps > >Sincerely > >Sam > >-----Original Message----- >From: Dot.Com [mailto:dot.communicator@...] >Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:44 AM >'arthritis ' >Subject: RE: [arthritis] Rheumatoid Factor/Numbers?/links/ >Importance: High > > > >Hi … > > > >this little blurb might help you find some answers…. > > Diagnosis of RA can be difficult, because there is no one particular >test that definitively confirms RA. Symptoms and lab findings of RA can >be similar to those of other diseases. Therefore, the patient's family >history, symptoms and signs along with lab results are used in >diagnosing RA. > > X-rays are not really diagnostic in early stages of the disease >because of the absence of apparent bone damage. However, X-rays can be >used in later stages of the disease to help the doctor monitor disease >progression. According to the American Rheumatism Association, there are >eleven criteria for diagnosing RA. Seven of the eleven are required for >diagnosis of classic RA, five for definitive RA, three for probable RA. >Four laboratory findings included in these criteria are positive serum >tests for rheumatoid factor, poor mucin clotting of synovial fluid, >characteristic histologic changes in synovium, and characteristic >histologic changes in rheumatoid nodules [3]. Synovial fluid can have a >turbid appearance which reflects an increase white blood cell count. >The white blood cell count reflects the degree of inflammation. An >elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and an increase in serum levels >of C-reactive protein (CRP) also indicate the presence of an >inflammatory response [4]. People with RA have increased levels of >alpha-1 and alpha-2 globulins which are acute phase reactants involved >in the inflammatory response. Mucin clots in the synovial fluid can >have decreased viscosity due to a decrease in hyaluronic acid [1]. Also, >patients may have moderate normocytic hypochromic anemia with decreased >serum iron, normal total iron-binding capacity, and normal iron stores >[3]. Another important test is the detection of rheumatoid factor. >Rheumatoid factor is usually detected serologically. The slide >agglutination test is used only for screening, and positives should be >confirmed using nephelometry or the ELISA method to measure rheumatoid >factor titers. In RA, titers are often 1:640 to 1:5120. Titers in >conditions other than RA are usually <1:80 [4]. However, the absence of >rheumatoid factor does not rule out the presence of RA. Rheumatoid >factor can also be present in people with syphilis, leprosy, and other >inflammatory conditions. Approximately 10-50% of patients with RA also >have low titers of antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) [1]. > > > >Good Luck > > > >Sincerely > >Sam > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: darensother [mailto:darensother@...] >Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 12:53 PM >Rheumatoid Arthritis >Subject: New member here, With questions!! >(scared) > > > >Hi, My name is Daren, I am 37 and I believe I may have RA, and I am >scared, I have severe pain in my hands and wrists I have been tested >for Carpel Tunnel which came back negative, I don't have the symptoms >of Fibromyalgia, my pain has been going on since November I have had >2 blood tests done both came back negative for RA but my Doc says it >may not show in the blood right away. I am on Naproxen for the pain, >I have a 3 year old son and i want to be around for him for many >years to come, If I have RA how do I deal with it? and how will it >affect my life? any suggestions? at this point anything would really >be helpfull!!! > >The way I wrote that may seem stupid but I didn't want to go on about >things and wanted to get to the point. > >Daren > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 21, 2002 Report Share Posted May 21, 2002 Hi Daren and group… just from my experience….I am sero negative rheumatoid arthritis….all the bone stuff but the blood work is normal….at this point into things…two years now….just recently got the diagnosis…..been for the tests…oh you don’t have this because your blood work is normal….goodness..finally now that the wrists and ankles and hands and feet and elbows are deforming they take a bit more seriously I take the antibiotic protocol as established by dr brown….www.rheumatoid.org maybe this copy and paste will help you and your doctor…and yes it is scary Good luck and hugs in pain Sincerely Sam Diagnosis of RA can be difficult, because there is no one particular >test that definitively confirms RA. Symptoms and lab findings of RA >can be similar to those of other diseases. Therefore, the patient's >family history, symptoms and signs along with lab results are used in >diagnosing RA. > > X-rays are not really diagnostic in early stages of the disease >because of the absence of apparent bone damage. However, X-rays can be >used in later stages of the disease to help the doctor monitor disease >progression. According to the American Rheumatism Association, there >are eleven criteria for diagnosing RA. Seven of the eleven are >required for diagnosis of classic RA, five for definitive RA, three for >probable RA. Four laboratory findings included in these criteria are >positive serum tests for rheumatoid factor, poor mucin clotting of >synovial fluid, characteristic histologic changes in synovium, and >characteristic histologic changes in rheumatoid nodules [3]. Synovial >fluid can have a turbid appearance which reflects an increase white >blood cell count. The white blood cell count reflects the degree of >inflammation. An elevated erythrocyte sedimentation rate and an >increase in serum levels of C-reactive protein (CRP) also indicate the >presence of an inflammatory response [4]. People with RA have increased >levels of alpha-1 and alpha-2 globulins which are acute phase reactants >involved in the inflammatory response. Mucin clots in the synovial >fluid can have decreased viscosity due to a decrease in hyaluronic acid >[1]. Also, patients may have moderate normocytic hypochromic anemia >with decreased serum iron, normal total iron-binding capacity, and >normal iron stores [3]. Another important test is the detection of >rheumatoid factor. Rheumatoid factor is usually detected serologically. >The slide agglutination test is used only for screening, and positives >should be confirmed using nephelometry or the ELISA method to measure >rheumatoid factor titers. In RA, titers are often 1:640 to 1:5120. >Titers in conditions other than RA are usually <1:80 [4]. However, the >absence of rheumatoid factor does not rule out the presence of RA. >Rheumatoid factor can also be present in people with syphilis, leprosy, >and other inflammatory conditions. Approximately 10-50% of patients >with RA also have low titers of antinuclear antibodies (ANAs) [1]. > >Rheumatoid Arthritis > > > >We have met the enemy... > >Most people know this form of arthritis as the 'crippling disease' >because it does just that - cripples the joints. However, rheumatoid >arthritis does not affect just the joints, it attacks other body >systems as well, including the heart, nervous system, blood and even >the lungs. > >Why should an arthritic disease attack other areas of the body? The >answer lies in the process that causes the joint problem - the body >suddenly does not recognize itself and forms 'antibodies' against >itself. These antibodies attack the foreign invaders (the body's own >tissues) and pretty soon the internal systems begin to crumble under >the weight of the immune attack. In essence, this is the Pogo legacy: >'We have met the enemy and he is us.' > >Joints seem to be the predominant focus of this disease. The joints >most often affected include the wrists, knees, elbows, shoulders, >ankles, and 'knuckles'. Joint destruction is an early manifestation of >this disease and there is usually X-ray evidence of damage within 3 >years of onset of symptoms. > >Since rheumatoid arthritis (RA) is a whole body disease, it is not >unusual for the patient to feel general fatigue, loss of appetite, >weight loss and depression. Indeed, these symptoms, along with some >initial joint pains, may be the only sign of RA's presence. Most >patients go for an average of 36 weeks before a diagnosis is made. > >Mimickers > >Other diseases may mimic RA and this makes it more difficult for the >physician to correctly diagnose subtle cases. Osteoarthritis, Lyme >disease, gout, even some forms of cancer can present just like RA. It >is helpful at times to be able to exclude osteoarthritis quickly. This >can sometimes be done on the first visit by the type of joint involved. >Osteoarthritis, for example, does not attack the wrists or the >knuckles, as does RA. > >Diagnosis, for the most part, hinges upon common lab tests. Some >components of the blood count are deranged (mild anemia, elevated >sedimentation rate or the rate that blood sediments on standing) and >finally a rheumatoid 'factor' test (titer). While some true RA patients >will not show a positive rheumatoid factor at all, at least 70% will >show some reactivity of a significant level. This factor is actually a >test for an immunoglobulin made by the body against its own tissues. > >Sometimes the joint involvement is so severe during 'flare' attacks >that physicians can obtain a sample of joint fluid for analysis that >will assist in making the diagnosis (or 'ruling out' other mimickers). > >X-rays, while helpful to establish or follow joint involvement, cannot >be used to confirm this diagnosis. > > >*Criteria for diagnosing Rheumatoid Arthritis (after the American >College of Rheumatology) > > >1. Morning stiffness > 1 hour's duration >2. Arthritis of at least three joint groups with soft tissue swelling >or fluid 3. Swelling involving at least one of the following joint >groups: proximal interphalangeal, metacarpophalangeal, or wrists >4. Symmetrical joint swelling >5. Subcutaneous nodules >6. Positive rheumatoid factor test >7. Radiographic changes consistent with RA > > >*5 of the 7 criteria are needed to confirm the diagnosis > > -----Original Message----- From: D Noakes [mailto:darensother@...] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 9:00 AM To: Rheumatoid Arthritis Subject: RE: New member here, With questions!! (scared) , Thanks for replying to with so much information it is so nice of you to take the time to reply. here are the answer to some of your questions you asked me. 1. The blood test I had done was for " Rhematoid factor " , cell counts (CBC's)and a few other tests that I am not sure what the names were but it all came back in the " normal " range. 2. X-Rays were taken and the doc said everything was normal. 3. My doctor is a Rheumatologist. 4. I had a nerve conductivity test done to see if it was Carpal Tunnel which came back " Normal " 5. out of the seven Criterias that you sent me I can honestly say I have... 1. Morning stiffness > 1 hour's duration YES 2. Arthritis of at least three joint groups with soft tissue swelling or fluid DOC WOULD HAVE TO CHECK FOR THAT 3. Swelling involving at least one of the following joint groups: proximal interphalangeal, metacarpophalangeal, or wrists YES, MY WRISTS 4. Symmetrical joint swelling YES BOTH WRISTS AND BOTH ANKLES 5. Subcutaneous nodules NO 6. Positive rheumatoid factor test NO IT CAME BACK NEGATIVE 7. Radiographic changes consistent with RA DIDN'T HAVE THIS PROCEDURE DONE *5 of the 7 criteria are needed to confirm the diagnosis I talked to my doc yesterday and he has changed my medication to ETODOLAC which is similar to Celebrex, instead of naproxin. He also said that there really isn't any more tests that can be performed to diagnose my symptoms until my symtoms worsen or change, so it is either a mild case of carpel tunnel syndrome or first stages of RA. So, I guess I just wait. Well, thanks again for replying to me, I hope everything is going well for YOU, take care. 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