chest pain

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HI

I HAVE HAD RA FOR 30 YRS NOW

I HAVE SUFFERED CHEST PAIN FOR ABOUT THE LAST 5 YRS OR SO

I WAS TOLD BY MY DOC THAT IT IS CALLED COSTOCHONDRITIS. CAUSED BY THE RA.

LOVE JOYCE

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In a message dated 9/19/2005 10:15:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, health writes:

I hope this day will be a good one for you all and everyone is well.I did my second day of walking which I think is a good start to a new me. heck I didn't even make coffee this morning and am just drinking lemon water. Alittle blech for this early but I know it is for the better.Question is this: I have mentioned heart related issues in the past but not in detail. Well no detail now either lol anyway. I want to walk but it is hard due to terrible chest pain right over the heart. I tried to go about 2 miles this morning but kept looking like I was hugging my knees..hahahaAnyway, any suggestions as what I can take for this? I know it is hard without knowing specifically what is the cause as Angina is just a general term but I figure I would try and do what I can on my own whilst I can.

Hi Tone,

What you are doing, is pretty much like taking a stress test, without the cardiac monitoring. The angina is your heart telling you that you are probably having some dysrhythmias, and that there is not enough oxygen getting to the heart muscles.

Believe me, I am the biggest advocate of natural alternatives, and that is what I do - I consult on alternatives. In this case, though, I think you need to have some NTG with you, and I'll bet that some doctor has told you that before.

I am not scolding, just trying to make you aware that you are playing with fire, here. Walking like what you are doing, is what they do to induce dysrhythmias.

Please go and have it checked out. You need an EKG and a stress test, and possibly a cardiac cath.

Barb, RN

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got any cayenne tincture??? carry it with you and take it at any sign of heart problems.

SuziTone <tone102@...> wrote:

Hi Barb,

Been through the whole ringer. Had a bunch of past episodes including infections in the heart wall.. I will not undergo any kind of surgery and I did not like the medications prescribed for me. Nitroglycerin is like taking one's head off to say the least! I try not to talk about my really serious issues much but when I had written to you all about my palpitations which are pretty frequent, well I am alarmed.

needs me there is no one else.

But I need to get healthy and I am looking to try and undo if possible and make better what I can.

OK so maybe just a couple of blocks tomorrow morning...lol

It is so hard without insurance barb. Honestly the clinic can care less and will do whatever they can just to pass you off as being depressed and treat you like another poor number.

If it worsens though I will see what I can do__________________________________________________

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COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE: Allopathic medicine is expensive and

invasive but it's there for a reason: most people lack awareness,

knowledge, and the will to head a problem off before it becomes a

problem. When a problem becomes a crisis then bite the bullet, suck

up the med bills, at least you'll stay alive long enough to effect

the alternative medicine changes. Lifestyle changes is where

alternative medicine is at and one can become phenominally healthy

at a low cost. However, feeling guilty about what we are doing or

not doing doesn't help one out of a crisis. Thus we start with one

item and when we gain a success with that we incorporate something

else, then a third, and so on. Over a period of time this amasses

into some major changes in the way we live, eat, breathe, think, and

feel.

Ditto on Suzi's suggestion on carrying a bottle of cayenne

tincture. Dr. and many other herbalists have used that

to stop heart attacks in midsession. I have a herbalism couple use

it with near miraculous results ( " He looks dead anyway, shoot some

down his throat and see what happens! " ). The dose for a heart

attack is 1/2 to 1 oz all at once. That's a lot of cayenne but it

beats dying, think of it's effect as hitting the Ctrl-Alt-Delete

button on your computer and resetting it. If you can't find any

cayenne tincture for sale it's easy to make your own. Put cayenne

in a jar and pour vodka over the top, I go about 1 to 5 cayenne to

vodka ratio but others might have a better ratio. Makes a good pain

liniment too bringing more circulation into an area and a riot to

give to people at parties.

Why wait for a heart attack to happen before you use the

herb? Cayenne does wonders for improving the circulation system.

Take it daily, start with a 1/4 tsp in water and every 3 days

increase the dose by a 1/4 until you reach the full dose of a full

teaspoon/day. The reason for the gradual increase is to give your

body a chance to adapt to it. Remedies that you take every day and

gradually experience greater and greater levels of health and

happiness pack a whole lot more power than a one minute wonder

cure. There are other circulatatory tonic herbs and herbal

formulations that can help too, I bet the files list some. Cayenne

is one of the cheapest and best and readily available choices.

Be smart, listen to your doctor, stay alive, and use the

cayenne as a launching pad towards greater health. Wouldn't it be

cool to walk into the MD's place a year from now transformed into a

paragon of health? It could be but it takes action on a number of

choices, action taken every day.

Chris

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Good Morning,

As far as doctors go, I am only there when I usually have no choice meaning I have already touched ground..hehe

I don't have any cayenne tincture but will get some. Is Cayenne an actual pepper? I know that may sound dumb because I do have it in powdered form but I cannot ever recall seeing any peppers in the produce section called cayenne.

I've been down the heart attack road before. Not my time yet.

Not sure how much genes play a role in ones' health but damn, my family is dooming me here lol

My father has had two unsuccessful angios, Two triple bypasses where both of them had him die and be revived with the second one being a 12 hour operation and the almost amputation of a leg (he got a staph infection there and now suffers from chronic cellulitis...very bad), he now has an enlarged heart and just diagnosed with diabetes. I am not mentioning the other things. But God Bless him you would never know this is a 79 year old man with health issues. He is one strong being! My older brother has had two heart attacks,one triple bypass, is insulant dependent diabetic and has had two strokes. He is 53 and a bitter and hateful person too so that does not help. The other 52 year old brother is the one that has his gallbladder removed and had major infections from it, along with hypothyrodism and sleep apnea. My Beautiful Mother who was a "health nut" died from cancer when she was my age.

I'm not throwing in any towels here at all. I have a pretty strong constitution considering that life has given me lots of rocky roads and I am trying and I never whine. I just seek advice and I talk as I have noone to talk to.

I know that much of this, if not all I have brought on myself.

Anyway, that is just one little chapter for today.

No walk today as I am alittle fluey. Could be that my emotional state is not cooperating with my physical BUT I always do try and strive to see the best of it all. I just don't listen sometimes...hehe

Thanks all

Wishing you a beautiful and blessed day

Tone

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Yes it will work. or any hot peppers chopped up will work... <psalms2go4@...> wrote:

Is cayenne in powder form sufficient?

Kathy T.

Suzi

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Very good article... love the "Control Alt Delete" analogy..

Suziprayerfulmantis <prayerfulmantis@...> wrote:

COMPLEMENTARY MEDICINE: Allopathic medicine is expensive and invasive but it's there for a reason: most people lack awareness, knowledge, and the will to head a problem off before it becomes a problem. When a problem becomes a crisis then bite the bullet, suck up the med bills, at least you'll stay alive long enough to effect the alternative medicine changes. Lifestyle changes is where alternative medicine is at and one can become phenominally healthy at a low cost. However, feeling guilty about what we are doing or not doing doesn't help one out of a crisis. Thus we start with one item and when we gain a success with that we incorporate something else, then a third, and so on. Over a period of time this amasses into some major changes in the way we live, eat, breathe, think, and feel.Ditto on Suzi's suggestion on carrying a bottle

of cayenne tincture. Dr. and many other herbalists have used that to stop heart attacks in midsession. I have a herbalism couple use it with near miraculous results ("He looks dead anyway, shoot some down his throat and see what happens!"). The dose for a heart attack is 1/2 to 1 oz all at once. That's a lot of cayenne but it beats dying, think of it's effect as hitting the Ctrl-Alt-Delete button on your computer and resetting it. If you can't find any cayenne tincture for sale it's easy to make your own. Put cayenne in a jar and pour vodka over the top, I go about 1 to 5 cayenne to vodka ratio but others might have a better ratio. Makes a good pain liniment too bringing more circulation into an area and a riot to give to people at parties.Why wait for a heart attack to happen before you use the herb? Cayenne does wonders for improving the circulation system. Take it daily, start with a 1/4 tsp in water and every

3 days increase the dose by a 1/4 until you reach the full dose of a full teaspoon/day. The reason for the gradual increase is to give your body a chance to adapt to it. Remedies that you take every day and gradually experience greater and greater levels of health and happiness pack a whole lot more power than a one minute wonder cure. There are other circulatatory tonic herbs and herbal formulations that can help too, I bet the files list some. Cayenne is one of the cheapest and best and readily available choices.Be smart, listen to your doctor, stay alive, and use the cayenne as a launching pad towards greater health. Wouldn't it be cool to walk into the MD's place a year from now transformed into a paragon of health? It could be but it takes action on a number of choices, action taken every day. Chris__________________________________________________

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Hi Tone,

I don't have any advise, but I follow most emails on this list. And

I just want you to know that I admire you for your courage to face all

those problems you're having. giving up alcohol or/and cigarettes is

very very difficult. I've been there. I think you're doing great!

christa

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I put a lot of jest into my writings and into my life. I always try to see the positive in everything even when it seems hard to do.

I am well aware of the effects of nicotine sadly and I can give at least a dozen "excuses" why I smoke. I make efforts though and I think that counts for something.

I come here to talk and to seek advice.

I never whine nor complain even if I feeling like doing so at times lol

Thanks for the advice

Have a peaceful night

Toni

If your family has already doomed you, no sense in trying to make anything better, right? lolHowever, I know from first hand experience that nicotine causes all kinds of angina and other pains in areas you never knew existed. The solution is to quit smoking, and no amount of family genetics will change that little, but very effective remedy.

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This may be true, Toni, but as someone who has been reading your posts and their responses for a very long time, and responded to many myself, you may come here to seek advice, but there is always some reason you can't take the advice you're given. You continue to ask for help, but then consistently argue for your limitations.

I've wanted to say this for a long time -- once, even did, but before I could post my computer mysteriously re-booted itself and I lost it!<G> -- but have kept silent. So now I'm saying it, and will only say it once. You're ask for and are given a lot of good advice, none of which you ever seem to be able to take.

You are the only person in charge of your health. No one on this list can make you healthy, no matter our knowledge and good intentions.

I wish you the best, but only you can make you healthy.

Sharyn

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of Tone

I come here to talk and to seek advice.

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