Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Good questions. First, you're not necessarily supposed to take these supplements. If your virus is completely under control, their value for you may not be as great as the extra work taking extra tablets. However, if you were one of the people who didn't want to take the HIV drugs - don't feel like you need them yet - or everything isn't under perfect control, this hypothesis might be useful. But it's still just a hypothesis – however credible it is. It has yet to be tested. As far as doctors recommending it, this hypothesis is relatively new information and is not something that is in the scope of conventional medicine, so doctors, in general, wouldn't know anything about it. If it were investigated in a quality study and shown to be of value, doctors might begin to acknowledge it as having some value, based on critical analysis of the data generated. One of the things Dr. hypothesizes is that there would be less HIV infection if HIV-negative people were well-nourished with these four nutrients so that people's immune systems were stronger. As a medical geographer, he notes that HIV infection happens significantly less in areas where the people get more of some of these nutrients from foods because the soil is rich in the nutrient. His hypothesis includes the concept that HIV can't infect as easily when a person has an abundance of these nutrients in their body. If this is true, people who are HIV-negative and sexually active might find Dr. 's hypothesis useful. If one is HIV+ but not progressed to AIDS, his hypothesis also states that progression to AIDS would be reduced or stopped. Again, it needs to be tested in a quality study. And remember, nutrients don't " stop " HIV. They support optimal immune function that can be impaired by nutritional deficiencies. Since over 90 percent of the population are known to be deficient in some of the essential nutrients, the majority of us can benefit from supplementation - for better immune function among other things. Each of these 's four nutrients has multiple potential benefits for people, in general – not just related for HIV, so why not take them if one is sexually active and at risk of becoming infected? N-acetyl cysteine (NAC), at this dose (1500 mg per day) for instance, was shown in a quality published one-year study to reduce the incidence of the flu infection by over 50 percent. This is why I take this dose myself. PWHIV can also benefit from taking NAC at this dose, for this same reason. (A study with PWHIV also showed significantly increased glutathione levels that were associated with less mortality at doses of 3200 mg per day and higher of NAC.) RDA DOSING VERSUS OPTIMAL DOSING As far as the doses I suggested, these are guesses at optimal doses based on progressive published data and hypothesis. In general, conventional recommendations for dosing are limited to RDA-type levels, without critical analysis of what might be required if special circumstances, like HIV-infection, bone loss or other health problems are involved. For instance, the RDA for selenium is 200 mcg, so this is what's typically recommended. RDA doses simply keep one from experiencing frank nutrient deficiencies. They are not known to produce optimal effects. In fact, in general, they are known to not produce optimal benefits. See: http://www.michaelmooney.net/nu11.html Since selenium's Lowest Observed Adverse Effect Level is 910 mcg, I take 600 mcg of selenium per day – as a safe, more optimal dose -- to reduce the potential for various infections and cancers. Fish oil (omega -3 fats) can lower triglycerides to some extent, but the doses generally recommended are not high enough to elicit an optimal effect. I take 4,000 mg per day of net EPA and DHA to stop my atrial fibrillation. My triglyerides generally measure extremely low (~65) as a side benefit. I take Jarrow's MAXDHA, and I have to take 5 capsules twice per day to get this dose. However, while this dose is beneficial – and has several other potential benefits, even this high dose probably won't be enough to lower triglyceride elevations induced by HIV medications enough to bring them down into the normal range. Mooney www.michaelmooney.net www.medibolics.com > i get very confused with the supplements we are supposed to be taking. > if this report is true why are we not being advised by our clinicians > to take these vital supplements? > i'm already taking omega 3, vit c, a powerful multi vit from Houston > Buyers Club and milk thistle and vit e for my fatty liver. as i have > high cholesterol and triglycerides as well, and a large amount of vat > (deep belly fat). should i also be taking l-carnitine and now cinnamon > too? > and can someone advise about the apparent high doses required? they > always seem so much greater than normally advised? > thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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