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I thought that it was only in Canada that welfare covered dental and medical

stuff, now you guys are telling me otherwise... The middle class is always

the one to suffer the most!!!

> Wow....6'1'? that is quite a kick!!! I also know what

> you mean about dental insurance, my son needs

> braces....not covered. $4000!!!!!!!!!!! A friend of

> his has a full set of braces for free, his Mom is on

> welfare, I am not saying welfare recipients should not

> get care, but I do say that there should be a standard

> where every kid and adult gets care. Alot of working

> people just can't swing 4 Grand. Ugh. But, I guess I

> am lucky to make " too much "

>

> na

>

> --- Agaw12577@... wrote:

> >

> > Hey guys!

> > I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the

> > back that broke and it has

> > been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today

> > finally. She said I need

> > a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance

> > it will cost me close to

> > 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is

> > changing jobs and his new

> > employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have

> > until the first to get

> > this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal

> > today. After 3 shots to

> > numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately

> > told her that I felt

> > pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10

> > minutes later, she blew

> > air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about

> > hit the ceiling! She

> > decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the

> > infection first. So now I

> > have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb

> > me. I am terrified of the

> > dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get

> > this all over with today.

> > Also, I don't have enough time to get the crown

> > under my insurance. I have

> > been told that if I buy myself an individual dental

> > policy there is a 2 year

> > waiting period on crowns! AUGH!! I am so

> > frustrated!! I have a friend who is

> > on welfare and gets wonderful dental care, for free.

> > It is so unfair that my

> > husband and I work so hard and there are no decent

> > individual policies for

> > us. Most have a 6 month waiting period for cavities

> > too!! By then, my

> > cavities will get bad enough to need root canals.

> > Sorry to vent! It is just

> > not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you

> > are out of luck!

> > On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my

> > husband a front kick and my

> > foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

> >

> > :)

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>I think it's Canada that has

> free health and dental don't they - or is it just health??? Any

> Canadians out there that can verify that for me?

>

> le

Canada has free healthcare (although rarely accessible, especially if you

have a grave illness like cancer or heart disease, because of very long

waiting lists). Dental care used to be free for children under 16 years old

(at least in Quebec it was), but now you either pay each time you go, get

personal insurance (which is extremely expensive) or have dental care with

your employer. As for drugs/medications, in Quebec again, everyone must pay

drug insurance (sick or not sick), except those that are on welfare. This

has caused very grave problems because older sick people have to pay their

insurance in addition to a portion of their medications. More and more

older people are not taking their medications anymore because it is much

more expensive this way, so they come more and more into the hospital with

badly controlled illnesses, which increases the financial burden on the

health care system. It is all very complicated....

Janick

who almosts feels like puking when talking about this

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In a message dated 2/18/00 2:14:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

etcarroll@... writes:

<< Gas can be expensive, but maybe

they can prescribe a tranquilizer for you. I'll be thinking about you

on Monday.

>

>>

Thanks! Luckily my dentist has something called " the wand " . It is some new

kind of shot. Believe it or not it is totally painless! It shoots out numbing

stuff as the needle slowly goes into the gum. So you don't feel it going in.

The only thing is that it is very slow. It seemed like it took at least a

minute and a half. But painless!! What I can't stand is the sounds of the

clamps, and the scraping and the drill, UGH!!!

:)

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In a message dated 2/18/00 3:53:01 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mmgraves@... writes:

Sorry to hear about the dentist...maybe they could just knock you out?

<< Right now I can kick at his mid chest...but he is 6' 7 " !!

>>

Oh My Goodness!! That is HIGH!!! Way to go !!

:) who's dentist doesn't knock people out, darn! The guy at the front

desk told me to take a pain pill before coming in. I wonder if that is a good

idea?

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In a message dated 2/18/00 4:31:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, moody@...

writes:

<< I'll bet your hubby was really surprised to see

that foot coming at him! That's great!

>>

He was very happy to see it actually! My husband gets worried about me

working at night. So sometimes we practice self defense stuff. He'll grab me

from behind and I try to get away. Today he grabbed me from behind and I

elbowed him in the stomach, got him in the face with an elbow strike (learned

that one from Kathy ) then spun around and threw that front kick at him.

(I don't really hit him hard, just pretend.) It was funny, he looked at me

and said, " I guess I don't have to worry so much anymore " .

:)

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In a message dated 2/18/00 5:52:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, moody@...

writes:

<< -who is looking forward to the combat tape. >>

What exactly is the combat tape ? I have been meaning to ask!

: )

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Agaw12577@... wrote:

>

> Hey guys!

> I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the back that broke and it has

> been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today finally. She said I need

> a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance it will cost me close to

> 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is changing jobs and his new

> employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have until the first to get

> this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal today. After 3 shots to

> numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately told her that I felt

> pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10 minutes later, she blew

> air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about hit the ceiling! She

> decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the infection first. So now I

> have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb me. I am terrified of the

> dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get this all over with today.

Oh, , I really feel for you. Dental work can be so unpleasant, to

say the least. When I have to have work, I insist on laughing gas

because I can't even stand the needles. Gas can be expensive, but maybe

they can prescribe a tranquilizer for you. I'll be thinking about you

on Monday.

>

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick and my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

>

Wow, you will do great at the tapings. You must be very flexible!

Elena

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Wow....6'1'? that is quite a kick!!! I also know what

you mean about dental insurance, my son needs

braces....not covered. $4000!!!!!!!!!!! A friend of

his has a full set of braces for free, his Mom is on

welfare, I am not saying welfare recipients should not

get care, but I do say that there should be a standard

where every kid and adult gets care. Alot of working

people just can't swing 4 Grand. Ugh. But, I guess I

am lucky to make " too much "

na

--- Agaw12577@... wrote:

>

> Hey guys!

> I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the

> back that broke and it has

> been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today

> finally. She said I need

> a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance

> it will cost me close to

> 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is

> changing jobs and his new

> employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have

> until the first to get

> this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal

> today. After 3 shots to

> numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately

> told her that I felt

> pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10

> minutes later, she blew

> air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about

> hit the ceiling! She

> decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the

> infection first. So now I

> have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb

> me. I am terrified of the

> dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get

> this all over with today.

> Also, I don't have enough time to get the crown

> under my insurance. I have

> been told that if I buy myself an individual dental

> policy there is a 2 year

> waiting period on crowns! AUGH!! I am so

> frustrated!! I have a friend who is

> on welfare and gets wonderful dental care, for free.

> It is so unfair that my

> husband and I work so hard and there are no decent

> individual policies for

> us. Most have a 6 month waiting period for cavities

> too!! By then, my

> cavities will get bad enough to need root canals.

> Sorry to vent! It is just

> not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you

> are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my

> husband a front kick and my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

>

> :)

>

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> " We are all athletes in training for life rather

> than overweight folks trying to drop some pounds

> temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

>

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Sorry to hear about the dentist...maybe they could just knock you out?

(although it would be more expensive I am guessing) That's great that you

can kick up to your husband's head!! I should start gauging my kicks from my

husband. Right now I can kick at his mid chest...but he is 6' 7 " !!

Ouch and a brag

> Hey guys!

> I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the back that broke and it

has

> been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today finally. She said I

need

> a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance it will cost me close

to

> 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is changing jobs and his new

> employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have until the first to

get

> this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal today. After 3 shots to

> numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately told her that I felt

> pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10 minutes later, she

blew

> air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about hit the ceiling! She

> decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the infection first. So now I

> have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb me. I am terrified of

the

> dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get this all over with today.

> Also, I don't have enough time to get the crown under my insurance. I have

> been told that if I buy myself an individual dental policy there is a 2

year

> waiting period on crowns! AUGH!! I am so frustrated!! I have a friend who

is

> on welfare and gets wonderful dental care, for free. It is so unfair that

my

> husband and I work so hard and there are no decent individual policies for

> us. Most have a 6 month waiting period for cavities too!! By then, my

> cavities will get bad enough to need root canals. Sorry to vent! It is

just

> not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick and

my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

> :)

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

> " We are all athletes in training for life rather than overweight folks

trying to drop some pounds temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

>

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Hi !

Sorry to hear about the tooth...I can understand wanting to get it

over and done with. I'll bet your hubby was really surprised to see

that foot coming at him! That's great!

> Hey guys!

> I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the back that broke and

it has

> been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today finally. She said

I need

> a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance it will cost me

close to

> 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is changing jobs and his

new

> employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have until the first

to get

> this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal today. After 3

shots to

> numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately told her that I

felt

> pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10 minutes later,

she blew

> air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about hit the ceiling!

She

> decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the infection first. So

now I

> have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb me. I am terrified

of the

> dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get this all over with

today.

> Also, I don't have enough time to get the crown under my insurance. I

have

> been told that if I buy myself an individual dental policy there is a

2 year

> waiting period on crowns! AUGH!! I am so frustrated!! I have a friend

who is

> on welfare and gets wonderful dental care, for free. It is so unfair

that my

> husband and I work so hard and there are no decent individual

policies for

> us. Most have a 6 month waiting period for cavities too!! By then, my

> cavities will get bad enough to need root canals. Sorry to vent! It

is just

> not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick

and my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

> :)

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agaw1257-@... wrote: original article:tae-bo_on/?start=12036

> Hey guys!

> I am having such bad luck! I have a tooth in the back that broke and

it has > been bugging me lately. I went to the dentist today finally. She said

I need > a root canal and a crown. With my dental insurance it will cost me

close to > 500 dollars! To make things worse, my hubby is changing jobs and his

new > employer does not offer dental insurance. So, I have until the first

to get > this stuff done. The plan was to do the root canal today. After 3

shots to > numb me, the dentist started to drill. I immediately told her that I

felt > pain. She stopped and gave me another shot. About 10 minutes later,

she blew > air at the tooth to see if it was numb. I just about hit the ceiling!

She > decided to put me on antibiotics to clear up the infection first. So

now I > have to go back Monday and pray that they can numb me. I am terrified

of the > dentist so I am very bummed that I could not get this all over with

today. > Also, I don't have enough time to get the crown under my insurance. I

have > been told that if I buy myself an individual dental policy there is a

2 year > waiting period on crowns! AUGH!! I am so frustrated!! I have a friend

who is > on welfare and gets wonderful dental care, for free. It is so unfair

that my > husband and I work so hard and there are no decent individual

policies for > us. Most have a 6 month waiting period for cavities too!! By then, my > cavities will get bad enough to need root canals. Sorry to vent! It

is just > not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick

and my > foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!! > :)

I had a similar thing happen to me with dental insurance...at the time

I had 4 impacted wisdom teeth that needed to be removed......needless

to say I had to pay $1300 out of my pocket!!! I glad to say I know

have a geat group dental plan.....I'm sorry you are going through

that....

Tara ~ Who wishes you nothing but the best!!!! Good luck!

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> He was very happy to see it actually! My husband gets worried about

me

> working at night. So sometimes we practice self defense stuff. He'll

grab me

> from behind and I try to get away. Today he grabbed me from behind

and I

> elbowed him in the stomach, got him in the face with an elbow strike

(learned

> that one from Kathy ) then spun around and threw that front kick

at him.

> (I don't really hit him hard, just pretend.) It was funny, he looked

at me

> and said, " I guess I don't have to worry so much anymore " .

> :)

Hi !

Wow..keep practicing. I think that over time those moves will become

automatic. My husband asked me to try to kick him..actually tap him. He

was using his arms and legs for blocking, but I was able to make the

corrections and land all of the kicks...thanks to and his control

moves. He was really surprised by how fast I could make the

correcttions depending where he was blocking. Actually I surprised

myself. ;)

-who is looking forward to the combat tape.

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I am glad some one mentioned the combat tape, what is

it? How is it different? Will it be an advanced

workout?

na

--- <moody@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > He was very happy to see it actually! My husband

> gets worried about

> me

> > working at night. So sometimes we practice self

> defense stuff. He'll

> grab me

> > from behind and I try to get away. Today he

> grabbed me from behind

> and I

> > elbowed him in the stomach, got him in the face

> with an elbow strike

> (learned

> > that one from Kathy ) then spun around and

> threw that front kick

> at him.

> > (I don't really hit him hard, just pretend.) It

> was funny, he looked

> at me

> > and said, " I guess I don't have to worry so much

> anymore " .

> > :)

>

> Hi !

> Wow..keep practicing. I think that over time

> those moves will become

> automatic. My husband asked me to try to kick

> him..actually tap him. He

> was using his arms and legs for blocking, but I was

> able to make the

> corrections and land all of the kicks...thanks to

> and his control

> moves. He was really surprised by how fast I could

> make the

> correcttions depending where he was blocking.

> Actually I surprised

> myself. ;)

>

> -who is looking forward to the combat tape.

>

>

>

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> " We are all athletes in training for life rather

> than overweight folks trying to drop some pounds

> temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

>

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I am glad some one mentioned the combat tape, what is

it? How is it different? Will it be an advanced

workout?

na

--- <moody@...> wrote:

>

>

> >

> > He was very happy to see it actually! My husband

> gets worried about

> me

> > working at night. So sometimes we practice self

> defense stuff. He'll

> grab me

> > from behind and I try to get away. Today he

> grabbed me from behind

> and I

> > elbowed him in the stomach, got him in the face

> with an elbow strike

> (learned

> > that one from Kathy ) then spun around and

> threw that front kick

> at him.

> > (I don't really hit him hard, just pretend.) It

> was funny, he looked

> at me

> > and said, " I guess I don't have to worry so much

> anymore " .

> > :)

>

> Hi !

> Wow..keep practicing. I think that over time

> those moves will become

> automatic. My husband asked me to try to kick

> him..actually tap him. He

> was using his arms and legs for blocking, but I was

> able to make the

> corrections and land all of the kicks...thanks to

> and his control

> moves. He was really surprised by how fast I could

> make the

> correcttions depending where he was blocking.

> Actually I surprised

> myself. ;)

>

> -who is looking forward to the combat tape.

>

>

>

------------------------------------------------------------------------

> " We are all athletes in training for life rather

> than overweight folks trying to drop some pounds

> temporarily cuz Haste doe not make a Waist "

>

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agaw1257-@... wrote:

original article:tae-bo_on/?start=12036

> Sorry to vent! It is just

> not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick

and my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

,

Man, I know exactly how you feel! I haven't been to the dentist for

awhile because I don't have dental insurance and I'm too scared to go

and hear how bad my teeth are :( I'm sorry you weren't able to get

everything taken care of today and have to put it off til next week!

I'll be thinking of you and hoping everything goes well. The

anticipation and worry is probably worse than the actual procedure!

Let us know how everything goes!

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agaw1257-@... wrote:

original article:tae-bo_on/?start=12036

> Sorry to vent! It is just

> not fair. If you can't get in a group plan then you are out of luck!

> On a happy note, here's a brag! I was showing my husband a front kick

and my

> foot came up to the top of his forehead. He is 6'1!!

,

Man, I know exactly how you feel! I haven't been to the dentist for

awhile because I don't have dental insurance and I'm too scared to go

and hear how bad my teeth are :( I'm sorry you weren't able to get

everything taken care of today and have to put it off til next week!

I'll be thinking of you and hoping everything goes well. The

anticipation and worry is probably worse than the actual procedure!

Let us know how everything goes!

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agaw1257-@... wrote:

The guy at the front

> desk told me to take a pain pill before coming in. I wonder if that

is a good

> idea?

Good idea? No...it's a GREAT idea!!! I've done this when I've had

periodontal surgery. Just ask your dentist to prescribe 15-20mg of

valium. Pop those babies about an hour prior to going, and you'll be

floating in the dentist's chair. Be sure to have someone drive you

home after, though.

;-)

F

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,

congrats about your awesome front kick!!! that is awesome!!

and i totally understand what you mean about the welfare thing... my best

friend lives on welfare and it used to drive me crazy! she would be able to

go out all the time, afford the very best for her kids, she drives a nicer

car than me, the state paid for her to go to college... it makes me crazy!!!

i get so tired of going to work every day and struggling when she gets to

have all the time in the world with her kids and has everything handed to

her!!! sorry to hear about your tooth... stuff like that is sooooo

painful!! hang in there, it'll all work out! and just remember, at least

we can respect ourselves and know that we have worked hard to get what we

have... that is more than they can say for themselves!! i couldn't live

with myself taking advantage of the system the way some people do!

~Nicci

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, I am so sorry for your troubles (tooth and insurance). It

isn't fair. I know we paid almost $100 for insurance with my hubby's

last job because my daughter has to have a mouth piece/retainer (we

thought at three but now they moved it to age 4) and that is $500+.

Also I have needed a crown for two years now and as long as the tooth

doesn't bother me, I keep putting it off. I am going to be sorry. I

haven't even been to the dentist since Vince changed jobs. I will

though as soon as we move again. You will be in my thoughts and

prayers that it will work out in the end. I think it's Canada that has

free health and dental don't they - or is it just health??? Any

Canadians out there that can verify that for me?

le

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, I am so sorry for your troubles (tooth and insurance). It

isn't fair. I know we paid almost $100 for insurance with my hubby's

last job because my daughter has to have a mouth piece/retainer (we

thought at three but now they moved it to age 4) and that is $500+.

Also I have needed a crown for two years now and as long as the tooth

doesn't bother me, I keep putting it off. I am going to be sorry. I

haven't even been to the dentist since Vince changed jobs. I will

though as soon as we move again. You will be in my thoughts and

prayers that it will work out in the end. I think it's Canada that has

free health and dental don't they - or is it just health??? Any

Canadians out there that can verify that for me?

le

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