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> I have been gargling with 3% non food grade H2O2 for the past couple of

> weeks. I think someone on this list, or on my fasting forum list, spoke

> about using it. Well I followed the advice and my teeth feel absolutely

> great. They are so smooth, just like when I've had them polished at the

> dentist. It's amazing. I also gargled when I had a sore throat and it

went

> away within 15 minutes.

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>Are you mixing this with water?

>Thanks;

No, just straight H2O2 3%. Not the greatest taste in the world, but I just

don't breath through my nose. It would be worth the bad taste even if it

was revolting. What great stuff.

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Hi n.

Gee guys I was kinda feeling bad that my 4 year old still gets in my bed. He

isnt the one with JRA tho, I am! AND it is much easier for him to come get in

my bed than for me to go get in his bunk bed at 3:00 or 4:00 am.Glad to hear

other lil ones at that age are seeking comfort in mommys bed. Thanks and have

a good one! Donna

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Dear Amy,

My son jason is 10 and also takes methotrexate. The problems you are having

with your daughters eating habits sound familiar!

A while back jason was on voltarol and methotrexate. During this time he

seemed to want to eat alot more than usual too. The doctor explained to me

that the cause was infact irritation to the stomach from the voltarol, not

hunger itself. interpreted the feeling as hunger and ate to try to get

rid of it. We were having alot of side effects from the voltarol anyway, so

by this time it was decided it best if he came off it. I have also found

that the desire to eat increases when he is on predisone. A friend gave me a

tip that seems to work. Encourage foods like cereals, porridge, pasta,

bread, etc as this seems to ease the feeling in the stomach and dulls the

cravings for excess amounts of food. For some reason whenever jason is on

steriods he craves porridge anyway!

I found the little and often approach works for us. When he is ill jason

tends to snack rather than eat at a set mealtime. I`m pretty relaxed about

this as its no use enforcing a set meal if he really does`nt want to eat at

that particular time.

Goodluck

carol

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People:

I am basically new to this forum, but after what is only weeks of

reading comments and seeing the volleying of what are inane subjects (to

me at least some are) decided to interject my comments also.

Here we are trying to show the world that we are no different from

everyone else. That everything that affects the world affects us and we

find ourselves censoring issues that seem to get under our skin. How

could we say that this room is to share and support each other and then

turn our backs on an issue that to a certain degree affects this

community more than others. I doubt you will ever hear someone proclaim

that they are aborting a fetus because it is " too perfect " , as in tall

enough, white enough, blond enough or much too smart. But in this age

of the rapid advancement of genetic testing " WE " will be the casualties,

more and more. So why shouldn't we hear others experiences even if they

only serve as information for future reference. I will only make a

choice after hearing as many sides of the story as possible.

And its not about our personal views and choices on the 'abortion'

issue. I really don't think one person's outcry will change my

choices. And its wasn't on my views on whether Dwarfs should take the

chance of passing this onto to another generation if they choose that

was important. It should have been about the indiscretion of that

doctor who took it upon himself to pass judgment on another individuals

life choices. Why didn't we stand up as a group or as individuals and

bombard him with letters explaining why sometimes what he perceives as a

damaged life is better than no life at all. Or how that woman's children

will be better loved and cared for than those of other couples that

chose to have families as a status symbol. I need to tell that " man of

medicine " , that despite the fact that I almost died three years ago and

the horrible time I had dealing with three surgeries after the scare.

And the pain and frustration that I still feel everyday, life is still

peachy keen and worth being a player in it. I can still put my head down

on my pillow each night and quietly marvel at what we experience

everyday as human beings and how this all fits in the big picture.

I can appreciate the light stuff some days and laugh with the rest of

you when it is appropriate, but we should also be addressing serious

issues, and being supportive. Abortion, genetic testing, HMO's denial of

much needed treatment are subjects that I don't get into in the chat

room but feel that would be appropriate subjects for this and regional

as well as national conferences. Get a grip folks there is more out

there than " love, sex & rock and roll " and everything should be on the

table so we could be better prepared and we can help to prepare others.

If you just want to be funny and light, then meet me in the chat room

and we'll throw the bull around some.

And as for my 'meet & greet' for those of you on this list: I am a 44

yr. old female from New Jersey, just became a member of LPA, employed

as a graphic artist at a University. If you go into the mIRC " Dwarfism "

chat room i am known as " (^oo^) say Hi. Happy to meet you all and look

forward to reading more about you and your views.

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> 2. Fw: Fw: Fw: Please read!

> From: REDHAWK4@...

> 3. Re: Fw: Fw: Fw: Please read!

> From: ningerbil@...

> 4. 's decompression surgery

> From: KCal0329@...

> 5. Re: AOL & Gdwarf chat

> From: JenJo@...

> 6. [Fwd: [Fwd: Fw: Three Serious WARNINGS]]

> From: Mark McCormick <dryker@...>

> 7. What would it be like if ?

> From: andRose520@...

> 8. Re: My previous post

> From: kd1219@...

> 9. Re: HAHAHa

> From: kd1219@...

> 10. Re: Hey, about the abortion message - let's go there!

> From: Marty Hiebert <martie@...>

> 11. Re: Reba's " Something to think about " response dated 3/25/00

> From: LinLouCan@...

> 12. Re: Maybe we should go there

> From: Marty Hiebert <martie@...>

> 13. Abortion and uptight people

> From: Deitze <daviddeitze@...>

> 14. Re: Hey, about the abortion message - let's go there!

> From: AngelsRTru@...

> 15. People magazine

> From: " anon 693 " <anon_693@...>

> 16. Non-Dwarf Related Topics

> From: kd1219@...

> 17. Re: My previous post

> From: JenJo@...

> 18. Re: Abortion and uptight people

> From: JenJo@...

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> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 07:30:20 -0600 (CST)

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> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: Please read!

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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Butch C Carlisle wrote:

> > From: Butch C Carlisle <Butchcs@...>

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> > IMPORTANT NOTICE

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> > To everyone who reads this message. THIS IS NOT A JOKE, REPEAT NOT A

> > JOKE. This information is from a very good friend of mine who I go

> > Bowlong and Fishing with. Please read this. It COULD happen to YOU.

>

> This is a variation of the " don't flash your headlights at

> a car with their lights off " hoax.

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> Please people, whenever you see a note with a line like:

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> > > > PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE YOU CARE ABOUT.

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> be suspicious - it's almost always a hoax.

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> Craig

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> > Thank You

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> > From: " Calvin Rathburn " <calbudy@...>

> > " M Hecht " <twinsrus@...>, " david linder " <generals@...>,

> > " Butch C Carlisle " <butchcs@...>

> > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 20:41:42 -0500

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Welcome to the dwarfism listserv . Nice to hear your voice on here and

please do continue posting. See ya in Jersey, girl! :)

Ann

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<< Unfortunately, I am also on the birth control pill, not for contraceptive

purposes really, but to balance a hormonal imbalance that I was born with. I

tried natural hormonal methods in the past, but because of my young age (26)

none of them were potent enough to help with the imbalance, which is quite

severe. But it's frustrating having to rely on such a pill, because I know

that the Pill can cause or aggravate candida infection.

>>

I was on the pill for a while to " correct " hormonal imbalances (very

irregular periods, heavy bleeding, bad cramps). BUT since I went off the

pill, I realized all I had to do was eat correctly to have virtually no

period problems. And of course the pill just ended up contributing to

greater problems, like candida.

Of course, if you were born with a hormonal imbalance, your situation could

be quite different, but nutrition has such a drastic effect on hormones.

I just wish I'd realized it sooner instead of believing my body was this

disconnected entity that I could just pour garbage into and be fine.

*Jami

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I just re-entered my kids in public school after homeschooling for 2 year

against my better judgement). I haven't continued with their shots because

I have concerns. One of the school personel stressed her concern that my

5th grader hadn't had a booster HepB shot. Could someone tell me how HepB

is spread and if there is any alternative to protect my kids against it?

I would very grateful to hear from you.

Thanks,

Suzanne

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Suzanne,

I once worked with a nursing assistant who got Hepatitis B from a patient.

She was pregnant at the time, and now her daughter is a carrier. I also have

an upstairs neighbor who got Hepatitis C from a tainted blood transfusion. I

know people have reservations about vaccinations, but, in my estimation, the

benefits far outweigh the risks. I have heard of cases of children becoming

very ill with whooping cough who were not vaccinated. You're better off to

get the children vaccinated, and keep going with your natural regimen.

Kathleen

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mb, sounds like pb is having fun dunking, stirring and eating.....my dh hates

when my kids do that....its all part of the fun...... i guess so is painting

floors, dropping watermelons, bunging chairs, splattering chinese food,

ruining mommies new shirt, escaping home, making moms lock the house down

like max security prisons and so on and on on life goes....taek care lall

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Well, all, I should be getting dinner ready and instead I am sitting here

alternating between laughing and crying with all of you. ine, your

post about your sister and your life was beautifully put! Thanks for the

reflection- sort of this wonderful juxtaposition against the other posts

about all of these household disasters today. I think my favorite line

just might be (Lori-Ann's?) " NO AUTISM TODAY!! "

Leah, hang in there- don't know what more I can say. I would have lost it

ages ago if PB was home for months at a time 24-7! Yegads! And I laughed

at 's description of this large family table with a huge area cleared

away for Matt. Yep- that's us at our house to a t! Plus, PB is just now

discovering the joys of dunking, stirring, etc. Even funnier was my DH 's

reaction to PB puttitng bits of food in his juice- " He can't drink that! "

Yes, he mixed it, and now he gets to drink it!! ALl kids like to do that

food mix at some point anyway but he thought it was gross.

And we even have a photo somewhere of the splattered watermelon on the

floor the day PB tried to lift it from the counter and there it lay in all

its glory.

We also have a paint story-(several years ago) - a brush soaking in

turpentine that I didn't think he could get to- and of course he did- and

painted all over the rug that we were fortunately pulling up- but the white

paint by his mough nearly gave me a heart attack because I thought he'd

tasted the turpentine.

I like the idea of bungee cording chairs to the table- the things we do!

Well, gotta put some food on the table. Blessings and love to all!

MB

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> Thanks for your advice re: substituting oils: I'll have to

> play around with substitutions and my lye calculator. To date, I've

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In a message dated 1/13/1 6:55:03 AM, Earl writes:

<< : you're using extremes.>>

I was not the one who stated " never needs replaced " .

<<If one is unfortunate enough to have submitted to surgery then replacement

is obviously required.>>

" To have submitted to surgery " ? It was not a defeat to do this! It was a

proactive way to rid my body of cancer. Can you not see that? And yes, it

*is* obvious if a body has no thyroid gland, a replacement is necessary.

That was my original point.

<<Synthroid, in general, is a poor choice as its side effects are not nice

and no drug actually " replaces " your hormone. If one has had surgery for

some reason, then Armour [pig thyroid extract] is usually a much better

choice.>>

Unless your body actually reacts poorly to Armour and Synthroid doesn't cause

these same side effects, then you have to make the most logical decision for

your own health.

<<Medically trained personnel in general are trained to use drugs and do not

tend to determine if there are alternatives. The drug therapy for thyroid

dysfunction, generally, is a tragedy!!>>

Which is why each individual must be his/her own medical advocate, just as we

should be our own advocates in all aspects of life. To do anything else is

irresponsible on our parts.

<<Just read the messages on this list over time and see how many people

experience poor results from medical management of thyroid dysfunctions.

People throughout the world are turning to alternative practitioners because

they realize that drugs simply do not heal.>>

I have been reading these messages, for about 2 years now. I do it not

because I believe fully in one person's treatment or point of view, but

because I feel it is my responsibility to know options out there and how they

can affect your body, positively and adversely.

<<Surgery, in most instances, is unnecessary. It is not necessary to mutilate

the body in order to heal it...in most instances.>>

Some people do not consider a surgery which saves a life from a cancer as,

using your loaded language, a " mutilation " to which someone has to be

" submitted " .

<<There are always exceptions.>>

This was my point exactly in my original post. *I* was not the one who

stated " never " in my post. I just wanted to point out that an individual

cannot continually generalize and lump all people (or categories of people)

together. It is irresponsible to do so, in most instances, because of so

many exceptions in this world.

<<Read any of the books by Dr. Deepak Chopra. He keeps repeating over and

over....the body is capable of amazing feats of regeneration...given the

opportunity. What I do is to suggest to people how to take that opportunity

to regenerate their thyroid....and the rest of their body, naturally.

Earl >>

I have read them. I agree that is amazing what the body can do. It is also

amazing that we have learned so much in medicine over the past several

hundred years. It amazes me that a person can have cancer and can rely on

more than just luck or prayer alone to cure a body of a ravaging disease. I

would take a surgery which leaves the body with a scar and the prayers of

friends and family over not having that information and ability any day. You

may or may not agree with that. As you well know, it is your right and

responsibility to explore options and choose the best one for you, which is

precisely what I continue to do every day while I take the Synthroid, which

has so far proven to be my best option.

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You are right in all of your contentions.

Surgery can be life saving...at times.

What I have found best is, if at all possible, to avoid the circumstances

that require surgery.Cancer is now said to be " striking " 1 person out of

about 2.5 people.

If we can avoid the circumstances that initiate cancer then maybe surgery

could be avoided.

Yes, mutilation may be a loaded word, but I see so many peiople who have had

surgery...for throid, gall bladder, caesarian, hysterectomies and on and on,

most of which are entirely unnecessary.

I always marvel when I access www.hacres.com and see the testimonials of

people who have adopted the " Hallelujah Diet " and eliminated cancer, heart

disease, tons of weight [collectively] and most diseases that plague us

today. And thats just from adopting a balanced vegetarian diet with fairly

minimal detox processes.

Prevention is just so much easier, cheaper and growthful than is radical

" therapy " after one contracts some disease.

But then sometimes it takes a life threatening situation for many folks to

really take responsibility for their health and well-being.

Earl

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Rajinder Johal wrote,

>Was Rigert East European? Where was he from?

Yes, he was a premier 90 kg lifter from the Soviet Union.

>True but after early success he is now being piloried by the Welsh

>media. I accept your point though although when I speak of traing

>methods I am primarily speaking of weight training as opposed to the

>type of technical work prevalent in rugby or gymnastics.

Yup - but if you know something of Welsh rugby you'll know this is pretty

much par for the course!

>I could be mistaken but haven't you previously argued elsewhere of

>the importance of genetics in sprinting so that the success of these

>US and Canadian coaches can be attributed to the athletes they work

>with more than their methods?

Absolutely not!

One of many important areas in detemining athletic excellence - yes. The

sole factor? Absolutely not.

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re: Queenie

What belly dancing tape do you have? I saw one and am thinking about trying

one.

re:

Happy belated birthday to your baby. :-) Did she have a good day?

re: n

WOOHOO! Congrats on the loss! Don't work too hard. :-)

re: Sylvie

WOOHOO about the Buffy DVD. I'm watching all the old episodes on weekends

trying to get caught up.

re: K

Sorry . Hugs! What you have to do is follow orders and work to

become healthier.

re:

Hugs!

re: 's soup

I modified the recipe a bit (more tomatoes; replaced some of the broth with

water; seasoned with lemon pepper) and it was YUMMY! Next time, though I

might add more mushrooms.

Much love, all.

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I caught that Buffy DVD thing....I just got a bunch from Netflix.com and we had

a Buffyathon. We just started watching it. Great show.

I just found out my 20 yr high school reunion is this weekend. I cannot go

because we are getting ready to move, but it got me to thinking how I would

handle people's reaction seeing my body with 90 more pounds on it. Strange, it

had not bothered me that much before. I guess those old feelings of being

inadquate in high school never really leave you...or maybe they do. Then I

thought, why do I want to go? Is there anyone there I want to see-hmmm - No. Did

I keep in touch with the people from high school-no. So why am I letting this

bug me?

Any ideas...

Keep the Faith

220/217/120ish

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High school reunion are hell!!! I didn't go to the 5 year one and to the 10

year one. At both I was in paticularly bad place in my life and I had the

same reflection as you: Do I want to see anybody from there? NO. Those

years of high school are really stuck into our heads. Anything and

everything that happens in those years has just so much importance to our

own eyes at the time. Anyway, what I really wanted to say is that I did

meet someone I knew in high school that did go to the 10yr one and she said

something that made me feel better about not going, here it is: The people

she liked back then... she still pretty much liked today, AND the ones she

couldn't stand... yep! Still can't stand them.

Sylvie Hebert

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>I just found out my 20 yr high school reunion is this weekend. I cannot go

>because we are getting ready to move, but it got me to thinking how I

>would handle people's reaction seeing my body with 90 more pounds on it.

>Strange, it had not bothered me that much before. I guess those old

>feelings of being inadquate in high school never really leave you...or

>maybe they do. Then I thought, why do I want to go? Is there anyone there

>I want to see-hmmm - No. Did I keep in touch with the people from high

>school-no. So why am I letting this bug me?

>

>Any ideas...

>

>

>Keep the Faith

>

>220/217/120ish

>www.geocities.com/bloomingpansy

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Hi,

I have had RA over 40 years, and I emphatize with you. Do you elevate your

feet? Try massaging your muscles around your knee,too. Stay active as I'm

sure you do. Simple stretching exercises help. too. I have a wonderful

physical therapist who knows I exercise including walking every day. It

hurts, too. Send me your story about what meds, ,etc that you have tried.

I'm going to compile the things that work for me soon.

Pearson

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Subject: Digest Number 340

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> From: " neiceetn " <Randydenis@...>

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> well kind of takes me awhile to post. A year ago I found out I have

> RA..we do the blood work and specialist. With a list of things I

> shouldn't be doing. If I don't do them they don't get done. I'm 45

> and a widow with 3 kids the youngest 8. I have 7 acres to take care

> of. I have been and still am active. I am trying not let the pain

> get to me. My problem is and the doc just says she can try draining

> it...my knee fill with fluid. It will go down some with the meds but

> then fills back up to the point it throbs after a days work or outing

> with the kids. She also tells me my pain tolerance is too high. Any

> one else had a knee fill with fluid??and what did you do about it?

> Thanks for listening

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> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 03:59:20 -0000

> From: " jeffgrocka " <jeffgrocka@...>

> Subject: Another problem

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> I was at the my regular Dr. today and on top of my RA she is telling

> me I have all the signs of Fibromyalgia. She wants my rhumy to

> comfirm this. I don't go back to her till 4-29 though. My reg ular

> Dr. did finaly give me somthing to help my pain and to help me to

> sleep at night. We will see if it works. I also got a email from one

> of my wifes friend about some new treatment for RA. I did not have to

> much time to look at it but I will give out the web sight.

> http://www.controlra.com/

> If any one has any insight on the Fibromyalgia thing I would love to

> hear it. Thanks Jeff R

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> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:37:57 -0000

> From: " neiceetn " <Randydenis@...>

> Subject: new to this group

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> Hi everyone. I am searching to find out all I can regarding ra. I

> had carpal tunnel surgery back 4 years ago on both hands, and that is

> when my troubles began. I have rsd, which is where my sympathetic

> nervous system is damaged either from the surgery or from carpal

> tunnel. I have seen over 20 doctors, have had to file bankruptcy in

> order to keep my house, and put my family through alot of hardache

> because of my pain. I now have a wonderful arthritis doctor who has

> me taking 7.5mg of methotrexate per week. I am also on neurontin,

> bextra, effexor, trazadone, amtriptoline,bayer asprin, and acidflex.

> I have been on methotrexate for about 2 months, and so far it hasn't

> helped. I fell 3 weeks ago and broke my right arm, and the very next

> day accidentally kicked the table leg and broke my right little toe

> where it joins the foot. Before quitting my job I was in customer

> service and typed 8 hours per day. The ra is up both arms from the

> fingers to the shoulders, in my neck, down my spine and both legs and

> feet. I am 38 and it has been very hard adapting. I'm anxious to

> know what others have done to adapt, and any info about others on

> methotrexate. I am happily married with 2 daughters, one is 19 and

> one is 13. The 13 year old has really had her life turned upside

> down with all that has happened. I really hope to learn from this

> group.

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Hi Sassy.... I am also a widow with RA but I also have MS. The pain sometimes gets so bad. Mostly because of the ms meds interferring with the RA meds. I am on relefen, azulfadine, plaquenil, and methotrexate. They were helping great until I had to start on my MS med. I found that you have to have a certain amount of exercise but also a certain amount of rest as well. You have to find the right balance. I will get bad after over doing it also. I have had my knee drained twice and then followed up with steroids. that was the only thing that worked for a period of time when I had over done it. I did help a lot. I hate steroids but sometimes they are the only thing that works. Of course I also live on darvocet when needed.

Jan in MI

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From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

Date: Monday, April 21, 2003 18:54:05

Rheumatoid Arthritis

Subject: Re: Digest Number 340

Hi,I have had RA over 40 years, and I emphatize with you. Do you elevate yourfeet? Try massaging your muscles around your knee,too. Stay active as I'msure you do. Simple stretching exercises help. too. I have a wonderfulphysical therapist who knows I exercise including walking every day. Ithurts, too. Send me your story about what meds, ,etc that you have tried.I'm going to compile the things that work for me soon.Pearson----- Original Message -----From: <Rheumatoid Arthritis ><Rheumatoid Arthritis >Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:28 AMSubject: Digest Number 340>> There are 3 messages in this issue.>> Topics in this digest:>> 1. new here> From: "Sassy" <sassygirl45365@...>> 2. Another problem> From: "jeffgrocka" <jeffgrocka@...>> 3. new to this group> From: "neiceetn" <Randydenis@...>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>> Message: 1> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:51:04 -0000> From: "Sassy" <sassygirl45365@...>> Subject: new here>> well kind of takes me awhile to post. A year ago I found out I have> RA..we do the blood work and specialist. With a list of things I> shouldn't be doing. If I don't do them they don't get done. I'm 45> and a widow with 3 kids the youngest 8. I have 7 acres to take care> of. I have been and still am active. I am trying not let the pain> get to me. My problem is and the doc just says she can try draining> it...my knee fill with fluid. It will go down some with the meds but> then fills back up to the point it throbs after a days work or outing> with the kids. She also tells me my pain tolerance is too high. Any> one else had a knee fill with fluid??and what did you do about it?> Thanks for listening>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>> Message: 2> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 03:59:20 -0000> From: "jeffgrocka" <jeffgrocka@...>> Subject: Another problem>> I was at the my regular Dr. today and on top of my RA she is telling> me I have all the signs of Fibromyalgia. She wants my rhumy to> comfirm this. I don't go back to her till 4-29 though. My reg ular> Dr. did finaly give me somthing to help my pain and to help me to> sleep at night. We will see if it works. I also got a email from one> of my wifes friend about some new treatment for RA. I did not have to> much time to look at it but I will give out the web sight.> http://www.controlra.com/> If any one has any insight on the Fibromyalgia thing I would love to> hear it. Thanks Jeff R>>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>> Message: 3> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:37:57 -0000> From: "neiceetn" <Randydenis@...>> Subject: new to this group>> Hi everyone. I am searching to find out all I can regarding ra. I> had carpal tunnel surgery back 4 years ago on both hands, and that is> when my troubles began. I have rsd, which is where my sympathetic> nervous system is damaged either from the surgery or from carpal> tunnel. I have seen over 20 doctors, have had to file bankruptcy in> order to keep my house, and put my family through alot of hardache> because of my pain. I now have a wonderful arthritis doctor who has> me taking 7.5mg of methotrexate per week. I am also on neurontin,> bextra, effexor, trazadone, amtriptoline,bayer asprin, and acidflex.> I have been on methotrexate for about 2 months, and so far it hasn't> helped. I fell 3 weeks ago and broke my right arm, and the very next> day accidentally kicked the table leg and broke my right little toe> where it joins the foot. Before quitting my job I was in customer> service and typed 8 hours per day. The ra is up both arms from the> fingers to the shoulders, in my neck, down my spine and both legs and> feet. I am 38 and it has been very hard adapting. I'm anxious to> know what others have done to adapt, and any info about others on> methotrexate. I am happily married with 2 daughters, one is 19 and> one is 13. The 13 year old has really had her life turned upside> down with all that has happened. I really hope to learn from this> group. >>>>> ________________________________________________________________________> ________________________________________________________________________>>>>

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Guess i just need to slow down...but after going full speed ahead

that sure is hard. I do sit with my legs up and massage my knee. I

had it drained once and it filled up withing 3 days. That was before

they found out I had RA. The doc has me on Celebrex and Sulfazine

(generic for I foget) But the sulfazine makes me tired. She keeps

telling me my systom will adjust...well after 9 mos on the stuff...it

hasn't...so I don't take it all the time. It will also make me feel

like I am spaced out. Which I don't like that feeling either. My

best relief from the pain is soaking in a hot tub. I don't know if

it is the heat, the jets, or just being able to relax.

>

> Hi Sassy.... I am also a widow with RA but I also have MS. The pain

> sometimes gets so bad. Mostly because of the ms meds interferring

with the

> RA meds. I am on relefen, azulfadine, plaquenil, and

methotrexate. They

> were helping great until I had to start on my MS med. I found that

you have

> to have a certain amount of exercise but also a certain amount of

rest as

> well. You have to find the right balance. I will get bad after

over doing

> it also. I have had my knee drained twice and then followed up with

> steroids. that was the only thing that worked for a period of time

when I

> had over done it. I did help a lot. I hate steroids but sometimes

they are

> the only thing that works. Of course I also live on darvocet when

needed.

> Jan in MI

> -------Original Message-------

>

> From: Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Date: Monday, April 21, 2003 18:54:05

> Rheumatoid Arthritis

> Subject: Re: Digest Number 340

>

> Hi,

> I have had RA over 40 years, and I emphatize with you. Do you

elevate your

> feet? Try massaging your muscles around your knee,too. Stay active

as I'm

> sure you do. Simple stretching exercises help. too. I have a

wonderful

> physical therapist who knows I exercise including walking every

day. It

> hurts, too. Send me your story about what meds, ,etc that you have

tried.

> I'm going to compile the things that work for me soon.

> Pearson

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: <Rheumatoid Arthritis >

> <Rheumatoid Arthritis >

> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 9:28 AM

> Subject: Digest Number 340

>

>

> >

> > There are 3 messages in this issue.

> >

> > Topics in this digest:

> >

> > 1. new here

> > From: " Sassy " <sassygirl45365@y...>

> > 2. Another problem

> > From: " jeffgrocka " <jeffgrocka@y...>

> > 3. new to this group

> > From: " neiceetn " <Randydenis@a...>

> >

> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

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> >

______________________________________________________________________

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> >

> > Message: 1

> > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 02:51:04 -0000

> > From: " Sassy " <sassygirl45365@y...>

> > Subject: new here

> >

> > well kind of takes me awhile to post. A year ago I found out I

have

> > RA..we do the blood work and specialist. With a list of things I

> > shouldn't be doing. If I don't do them they don't get done. I'm

45

> > and a widow with 3 kids the youngest 8. I have 7 acres to take

care

> > of. I have been and still am active. I am trying not let the

pain

> > get to me. My problem is and the doc just says she can try

draining

> > it...my knee fill with fluid. It will go down some with the meds

but

> > then fills back up to the point it throbs after a days work or

outing

> > with the kids. She also tells me my pain tolerance is too high.

Any

> > one else had a knee fill with fluid??and what did you do about it?

> > Thanks for listening

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

> > Message: 2

> > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 03:59:20 -0000

> > From: " jeffgrocka " <jeffgrocka@y...>

> > Subject: Another problem

> >

> > I was at the my regular Dr. today and on top of my RA she is

telling

> > me I have all the signs of Fibromyalgia. She wants my rhumy to

> > comfirm this. I don't go back to her till 4-29 though. My reg ular

> > Dr. did finaly give me somthing to help my pain and to help me to

> > sleep at night. We will see if it works. I also got a email from

one

> > of my wifes friend about some new treatment for RA. I did not

have to

> > much time to look at it but I will give out the web sight.

> > http://www.controlra.com/

> > If any one has any insight on the Fibromyalgia thing I would love

to

> > hear it. Thanks Jeff R

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

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> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

> > Message: 3

> > Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:37:57 -0000

> > From: " neiceetn " <Randydenis@a...>

> > Subject: new to this group

> >

> > Hi everyone. I am searching to find out all I can regarding ra.

I

> > had carpal tunnel surgery back 4 years ago on both hands, and

that is

> > when my troubles began. I have rsd, which is where my sympathetic

> > nervous system is damaged either from the surgery or from carpal

> > tunnel. I have seen over 20 doctors, have had to file bankruptcy

in

> > order to keep my house, and put my family through alot of hardache

> > because of my pain. I now have a wonderful arthritis doctor who

has

> > me taking 7.5mg of methotrexate per week. I am also on neurontin,

> > bextra, effexor, trazadone, amtriptoline,bayer asprin, and

acidflex.

> > I have been on methotrexate for about 2 months, and so far it

hasn't

> > helped. I fell 3 weeks ago and broke my right arm, and the very

next

> > day accidentally kicked the table leg and broke my right little

toe

> > where it joins the foot. Before quitting my job I was in customer

> > service and typed 8 hours per day. The ra is up both arms from

the

> > fingers to the shoulders, in my neck, down my spine and both legs

and

> > feet. I am 38 and it has been very hard adapting. I'm anxious to

> > know what others have done to adapt, and any info about others on

> > methotrexate. I am happily married with 2 daughters, one is 19 and

> > one is 13. The 13 year old has really had her life turned upside

> > down with all that has happened. I really hope to learn from this

> > group.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Kelli,

You are living my worst fear!! I am so afraid that if is a candidate

for casting by Dr. D'Astous in UT, we will alienate all her doctors here in

TX (the largest medical center in the world!). Why is that? Casting is not

'alternative' medicine (well, alternative to bracing, but not

hippy-60's-alternative). It's not like we're getting our kids to go to some

back country for treatment with leeches!! For goodness sakes. Any thoughts

on how to deal with doctors (orthopedists) locally when kids are casted

non-locally??? I'm specifically concerned that we won't have a local doctor

in case of an emergency with the cast (not sure what emergency, can't

anticipate everything) - but I'm always thinking 'what if'??

Robin

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Dear Jolynn,

I know this is rather late - I'm behind on my emails again. But I can truly relate.

I really do understand wanting to be "invisible". I can stand almost anything but pity...and the look on my dd's face when I know she's disappointed b/c of something re: my condition.

I was on bilateral forearm crutches when dd was born, & so having a single cane now doesn't bother her. In fact, I am more worried that she'll be embarassed than she is. What DOES bother her, & sometimes embarass her, is that I cannot physically run & play with her. Right now she's peeved at me b/c I loaned out my walker & she wants to go for our little walks. I can only make it about 1/2 block, & must use my walker instead of my cane to do it.

BTW thanks again to all the advice re: cuddling with my dd. And the puppy v/s dog explanation weight changes was helpful.

Blessings,

Carla Kay

Ps. 96:1,3, & 4a Sing to the LORD a new song; sing to the LORD, all the earth. Declare His glory among the nations, His marvelous deeds among all peoples. For great is the LORD and most worthy of praise...

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