Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 Thanks. > > Magazine is not available online - you can purchase digital copies; however, > this little blurb is off the website on the article: > > > " For the savvy parent, questioning routine medical procedures doesn't end at > birth. Take, for instance, vaccines. While thimerosal, the controversial > mercury-based preservative, has been removed from most vaccines, another toxic > additive remains. In " Is Aluminum the New Thimerosal? " (page 46), noted > pediatrician Dr. W. Sears, author of The Vaccine Book, talks about why this > common adjuvant poses a threat to our children's well-being. " > > > > ************************************** > See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 I call your attention to " He's Not Autistic But... " How we pulled our Son From the Mouth of the Abyss by Tenna Merchant Pub date 5/2007 All about Aluminum. KP Stoller, MD President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico www.hbotnm.com Please note: message attached _____________________________________________________________ Get the software you need to effectively manage your portfolio. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4szUHq8zweh03k3VyvLmYWlbhAn\ MdN51p95RSQBdpafHhl56/ Magazine is not available online - you can purchase digital copies; however, this little blurb is off the website on the article: "For the savvy parent, questioning routine medical procedures doesn't end at birth. Take, for instance, vaccines. While thimerosal, the controversial mercury-based preservative, has been removed from most vaccines, another toxic additive remains. In "Is Aluminum the New Thimerosal?" (page 46), noted pediatrician Dr. W. Sears, author of The Vaccine Book, talks about why this common adjuvant poses a threat to our children's well-being."**************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 http://tinyurl.com/2kj2ms Found it, thank you. > > I call your attention to " He's Not Autistic But... " How we pulled our Son From the Mouth of the Abyss by Tenna Merchant Pub date 5/2007 > > All about Aluminum. > > > > KP Stoller, MD > President, International Hyperbaric Medical Assoc > Medical Director, Hyperbaric Medical Center of New Mexico > www.hbotnm.com > > Please note: message attached > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Get the software you need to effectively manage your portfolio. Click now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2221/fc/Ioyw6i4szUHq8zweh03k3Vy vLmYWlbhAnMdN51p95RSQBdpafHhl56/ > > > Magazine is not available online - you can purchase digital copies; however, > this little blurb is off the website on the article: > > > " For the savvy parent, questioning routine medical procedures doesn't end at > birth. Take, for instance, vaccines. While thimerosal, the controversial > mercury-based preservative, has been removed from most vaccines, another toxic > additive remains. In " Is Aluminum the New Thimerosal? " (page 46), noted > pediatrician Dr. W. Sears, author of The Vaccine Book, talks about why this > common adjuvant poses a threat to our children's well-being. " > > > > ************************************** > See AOL's top rated recipes > (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I bought and read Mothering Magazine yesterday. It is worth it for the table of vaccines containing aluminum, one that I have not seen elsewhere. Sears talks about how aluminum was found to be toxic to preemies who were fed IV using TPN (total parenteral nutrition), and how the limit of 4-5 mcg/kg/day was established. Babies who were IV fed using traditional (ie high aluminum) TPN were found to be neurologically impaired at 18 months compared to babies who were fed using TPN where the aluminum was filtered out, down to 4-5 mcg/kg/day. So, if you do the math, a 3 kg newborn who got the Hep B (250 mcg) was WAY over the limit. Just great. This reminded me about a little known fact in the history of medicine. Well-meaning kidney doctors trying to save the lives of their kidney failure patients found that as soon as they started dialysis, many of their patients started getting demented. The incidence of dementia varied by locality, though, suggesting an environmental effect. Finally, it was tracked down to the concentration of Al in the local municipal water supplies. Local water was used to prepare dialysis fluid, and if it happened to be high in aluminum, the patient would get very large exposure, because a lot of water is used in dialysis. This epidemic of dialysis dementia occurred in the 70's- it took a few years to figure it out- now it has been corrected, and medicine doesn't really talk about it anymore. Sound familiar?link to aluminum toxicity in dialysis patients. Check out the clinical features of aluminum toxicity.http://tinyurl.com/2a58dt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 , do you know if they give this TPN to preemies even if the mom brought in breastmilk? My son was in the NICU for 5 weeks after birth!! Gayatri > > I bought and read Mothering Magazine yesterday. It is worth it for > the table of vaccines containing aluminum, one that I have not seen > elsewhere. Sears talks about how aluminum was found to be toxic to > preemies who were fed IV using TPN (total parenteral nutrition), and > how the limit of 4-5 mcg/kg/day was established. Babies who were IV > fed using traditional (ie high aluminum) TPN were found to be > neurologically impaired at 18 months compared to babies who were fed > using TPN where the aluminum was filtered out, down to 4-5 mcg/kg/ > day. So, if you do the math, a 3 kg newborn who got the Hep B (250 > mcg) was WAY over the limit. Just great. > > This reminded me about a little known fact in the history of > medicine. Well-meaning kidney doctors trying to save the lives of > their kidney failure patients found that as soon as they started > dialysis, many of their patients started getting demented. The > incidence of dementia varied by locality, though, suggesting an > environmental effect. Finally, it was tracked down to the > concentration of Al in the local municipal water supplies. Local > water was used to prepare dialysis fluid, and if it happened to be > high in aluminum, the patient would get very large exposure, because > a lot of water is used in dialysis. This epidemic of dialysis > dementia occurred in the 70's- it took a few years to figure it out- > now it has been corrected, and medicine doesn't really talk about it > anymore. Sound familiar? > > > > link to aluminum toxicity in dialysis patients. Check out the > clinical features of aluminum toxicity. > http://tinyurl.com/2a58dt > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral feeding when using TPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thanks a bunch. I took a look at the link you sent on aluminium in the brain and was wondering if that brought about the increased ammonia we see in the enlarged brains of a subset of the ASD kids in the first year. That has something to do with the urea cycle as well (the alanine - glucose cycle). I don't understand the bio-chemistry part of it. Gayatri > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral feeding > when using TPN. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 We were just at the DAN doctor's and our kids, of course, had high ammonia. She said it could be a byproduct of chronic bacterial infection, but I'll look up other causes as well. > > > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral feeding > > when using TPN. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 High ammonia levels seen also from too much protein in the diet, and you might see it more in children's who blood type is A+. Lower the protein intake. Two products that can help, one is called BioThyro sold thru www.emersonecologics.com The other one is called BH-4 - long name is Tetrahydrobiogterin --its sold in Europe - but there are a few DR's who carry it now in there offices. In EOHarm , " Gayatri Rampal " <gayatri_rampal@...> wrote: > > Thanks a bunch. I took a look at the link you sent on aluminium in the > brain and was wondering if that brought about the increased ammonia we > see in the enlarged brains of a subset of the ASD kids in the first > year. That has something to do with the urea cycle as well (the > alanine - glucose cycle). I don't understand the bio-chemistry part of > it. > > Gayatri > > > > > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral feeding > > when using TPN. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were " aluminum kids " 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop unexplained fractures and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) just curious and finally the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... my 2 cents d ayoub, md Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were " aluminum kids " 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop unexplained fractures and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) just curious and finally the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... my 2 cents d ayoub, md Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 If during chelation, kids have been excreting copious amounts of aluminum-couldn't that mean that they are both mercury and aluminum toxic.? And wouldn't a number of the symptoms be the same? My grandkids were both on reflux meds(one -can't remember the name) was withdrawn from the market in July of 2000 because it was dangerous for some reason-both on soy milk due to reflux and colic--and then of course the vaccines.. Maurinedmayoub <raypoke@...> wrote: There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO)I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were "aluminum kids"1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax)2) did mom take "calcium" pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it?4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi)5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity)5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum)seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop unexplained fracturesand was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix)just curiousand finallythe recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding......my 2 centsd ayoub, md Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 aluminum exposure/toxicity can cause colic because it impairs peristalsis (gut contractions). It does this because it is toxic to the cholinergic nervous system, autonomic nervous system in general. This can result in constipation, bloating and reflux. aluminum antacids of course can make this all worse, creating a viscous cycle. Otherwise known as the " Golden Pharma cycle " where their treatments assure future sales. The interpretation of the urine profile with chelation depends very much on the agent used. For example, on DMPS or DMSA, IF you see aluminum, since these agents do not remove aluminum, the reason aluminum is there is NOT the chelator, but it is just in the urine and likely there is a source of ongoing high exposure. If it is there on an EDTA challenge, then it is being pulled (probably) and this means that there is tissue storage or accumulation. Since lead has a higher affinity for EDTA than aluminum, IF lead is present, the amount of aluminum may actually be under estimated. btw based upon the research/review I did and what I presented at NAA, the FDA's suggested limits of daily aluminum exposure is 4-5 mcg/kg/day. According to ASCN/ASPEN, doses above 60 mcg/kg/day are frankly toxic the vaccines at 0, 2, 4, 6, 12 months provides between 75 and 250 mcg/kg/day > There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) > > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were " aluminum > kids " > > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) > > 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it > > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? > > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) > > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) > > seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, > hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, > craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show > elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop > unexplained fractures > > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) > > just curious > > and finally > > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... > > my 2 cents > d ayoub, md > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 aluminum exposure/toxicity can cause colic because it impairs peristalsis (gut contractions). It does this because it is toxic to the cholinergic nervous system, autonomic nervous system in general. This can result in constipation, bloating and reflux. aluminum antacids of course can make this all worse, creating a viscous cycle. Otherwise known as the " Golden Pharma cycle " where their treatments assure future sales. The interpretation of the urine profile with chelation depends very much on the agent used. For example, on DMPS or DMSA, IF you see aluminum, since these agents do not remove aluminum, the reason aluminum is there is NOT the chelator, but it is just in the urine and likely there is a source of ongoing high exposure. If it is there on an EDTA challenge, then it is being pulled (probably) and this means that there is tissue storage or accumulation. Since lead has a higher affinity for EDTA than aluminum, IF lead is present, the amount of aluminum may actually be under estimated. btw based upon the research/review I did and what I presented at NAA, the FDA's suggested limits of daily aluminum exposure is 4-5 mcg/kg/day. According to ASCN/ASPEN, doses above 60 mcg/kg/day are frankly toxic the vaccines at 0, 2, 4, 6, 12 months provides between 75 and 250 mcg/kg/day > There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) > > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were " aluminum > kids " > > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) > > 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it > > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? > > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) > > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) > > seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, > hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, > craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show > elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop > unexplained fractures > > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) > > just curious > > and finally > > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... > > my 2 cents > d ayoub, md > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Dr. Ayoub, I happen to be the mom of a preemie and for sure know he is an aluminum kid. It showed up first of all on hair tests when he was on a homeopathic remedy in the initial year after diagnosis. He was 4-5 years old at that time and it was in the red. Later as we tried to do some sulphur based chelation - you are right - it never showed and the hair tests did not show it any more either. It has come up again on the EDTA IVs. The aluminum connection became clear to me when we did Yasko and found out about the bacterial/ aluminum problem and how it ties up iron. My son was also found anemic in the first year and we did do the Polyvisol (with iron) for almost a year and a half at that time. Oh and yes there was reflux as well in the initial month as well as explosive vomiting and he was put on both Zantac and Propulsid. I may as well answer your questionniare below, wasn't sure if those were rhetorical questions. Answers are in CAPS. Thanks for doing this. Gayatri > > There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) > > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were " aluminum > kids " > > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) YES > > 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it I DON'T SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER THE CALCIUM PILLS BUT DID HAVE THE PRENATALS THAT MADE ME VERY SICK IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER. I DO HOWEVER CLEARLY RECALL A REVULSION TO DAIRY AND WENT COMPLETELY OFF ICE CREAMS AND CHEESE, SO I MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALCIUM DEFICIENT FOR ALL YOU KNOW. HAD NO PRIOR PROBLEMS WITH DAIRY THAT I REMEMBER. > > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? HE WAS ON PROPULSID AND ZANTAC MONTHS 4 TO 8 TILL WE ASKED TO PULL IT. WE HAD TO HOLD HIM UPRIGHT FOR 15 MINUTES OR MORE AFTER EACH FEED TO KEEP THE MILK DOWN. IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE PROBLEM HAD LESSENED IN SEVERITY. THERE WERE ALSO SOME SIDE EFFECT REPORTS ABOUT ZANTAC IN THE NEWS IN 1998 AND I WAS UNEASY ABOUT KEEPING HIM ON THE MEDS FOR THAT LONG A PERIOD OF TIME. INCIDENTALLY REFLUX WAS CONFIRMED IN AN ULTRASOUND AFTER SWALLOWING SOME BARIUM (I THINK). I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ALUMINIUM IN THEM, BOTH WERE IN A SUSPENSION TYPE OF LIQUID. > > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) THANKFULLY NEVER. > > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) YES. HAD TO WEAR THOSE GOGGLES. > > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) > > seizures YES , myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), DON'T KNOW HE USED TO JERK HIS HEAD UPWARDS LAST YEAR BUT I THINK THAT COMES FROM THE TETANUS FROM THE DTaP. I GAVE HIM HOMEOPATHIC LEDUM A FEW TIMES FOR AN UNRELATED ACUTE AND NOTICED THE HEAD JERKING DIMINISHED CONSIDERABLY. I STILL SEE A LITTLE BIT EVERY NOW AND THEN AND ITS IGNORABLE. speech problems, YES, BOTH EXPRESSIVE AND RECEPTIVE > hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), YES, STIFFNESS IN NECK (WAS AFFECTING HIS NERGY LEVELS AS PER THE EAV NATUROPATH AND CHIROPRACTIC VISITS HELPED), SEEMS TO FLOP IN HIS MIDSECTION AREA, OVERALL LACKS GRIT AND STAMINA. apnea, DO NOT KNOW microcephaly, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO HE USED TO HAVE THESE LONG STUPOR SPELLS IN SPITE OF SEIZURE MEDS. > craniosynostosis, DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT THE FONTANELLES TOOK FOREVER TO CLOSE irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), VERY IRRITABLE YOU COULD NOT PUT HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST YEAR MUCH AT ALL. HE WAS ALSO A 31.5 WEEK GESTATION PREEMIE. labs ever show > elevated alkaline phosphatase, MY OWN LABS HAVE SHOWN HIGH SGOT, SGPT. I HAD DEVELOPED MYOFASCIAL PAIN SYNDROME AFTER BEING REAR ENDED IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT AND THIS SHOWED UP AFTER THAT. INCIDENTALLY WE HAVE 7 OUT OF 10 SNPs COMMON ON THE YASKO BASIC 10 PANEL SO HE IS VERY LIKE ME. microcytic anemia, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS BUT HE DID HAVE ANEMIA IN THE FIRST YEAR. calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop > unexplained fractures HIS CALCIUM HAS BEEN ALWAYS TOWARDS THE LOWER END OF THE AVERAGE RANGE WITH AVERAGE SUPPLEMENTATION AND HIS MAGNESIUM HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY LOW WITH A LOT OF SUPPLEMENTATION. I DID SOME READING LAST YEAR AND FINALLY DISCOVERED THAT HIS CONDITION LOOKED LIKE " HYPERCALCEMIA. " I FOUND CONNECTIONS TO THE THYROID/ ADRENALS, THE PARATHYROIDS AND CALCIUM CHANNELS IN CONNECTION WITH THAT. HIS ARMS AT THE ELBOW JOINTS AND HIS CALVES WHERE THEY MEET HIS FEET HAVE THIS STRANGE BOWED SHAPE, THE ELBOW JOINT REALLY JUTS OUT. I HAVE SEEN THIS IN AT LEAST ONE OTHER CHILD. DR. GREEN DID NOT BELIEVE ME AT FIRST BUT THE TESTS PARTIALLY HELD TRUE FOR SOME THINGS, I DON'T THINK WE RAN TESTS FOR EVERYTHING. MY SON'S THYROID HAS ALSO FLUCTUATED LIKE CRAZY. HE LOOKED LIKE HYPERTHYROID EARLIER IN 2003, THEN HE BECAME HYPOTHYROID WHEN HE WAS 8 AND BEGAN GAINING WEIGHT, IN 2006. I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME HYPERPARATHYROIDISM GOING ON. > > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) HE IS A DEC 1997 CHILD AND SO ESCAPED THE PREVNAR AND THE PEDIATRIX - THANK GOODNESS - BUT YES THERE WAS CLEAR REGRESSION AFTER EVERY ROUND OF SHOTS. IN HINDSIGHT ITS EVIDENT, AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IT CAME FROM THE EARLY BIRTH (2 MONTHS EARLY). IN ALL FAIRNESS THERE WERE SENSORY AND BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS SO IT SEEMED TOUGH BEHAVIORALLY. AND THE DIARRHEA OF COURSE THAT SHOWED UP AFTER THE MMR. THEN THE SICKNESS AT 3+ YEARS, AND THE PLUNGE INTO AUTISM BEGAN ONLY AROUND AGE 4 AFTER 2 BOUTS OF STREP (WITH ANTIBIOTICS) AND 2 FLU SHOTS A MONTH APART, THEY MAKE YOU DO THE BOOSTER. > > > just curious > > and finally > > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... I AM NOT SURE I WANT TO DO THIS, IT SOUNDS AWFUL. > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... > > my 2 cents > d ayoub, md THANKS, GAYATRI. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST " REAL " DOCTOR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 that's it-that's the drug they took off the market in July of 2000 finding it to be dangerous. Propulsid. both my grandkids were on it for reflux. Must have been nasty stuff. maurineGayatri Rampal <gayatri_rampal@...> wrote: Dr. Ayoub, I happen to be the mom of a preemie and for sure know he is an aluminum kid. It showed up first of all on hair tests when he was on a homeopathic remedy in the initial year after diagnosis. He was 4-5 years old at that time and it was in the red. Later as we tried to do some sulphur based chelation - you are right - it never showed and the hair tests did not show it any more either. It has come up again on the EDTA IVs.The aluminum connection became clear to me when we did Yasko and found out about the bacterial/ aluminum problem and how it ties up iron. My son was also found anemic in the first year and we did do the Polyvisol (with iron) for almost a year and a half at that time. Oh and yes there was reflux as well in the initial month as well as explosive vomiting and he was put on both Zantac and Propulsid. I may as well answer your questionniare below, wasn't sure if those were rhetorical questions. Answers are in CAPS.Thanks for doing this.Gayatri>> There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water used for > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that as > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share this > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO)> > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were "aluminum > kids"> > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax)YES> > 2) did mom take "calcium" pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are contaminated > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in itI DON'T SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER THE CALCIUM PILLS BUT DID HAVE THE PRENATALS THAT MADE ME VERY SICK IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER. I DO HOWEVER CLEARLY RECALL A REVULSION TO DAIRY AND WENT COMPLETELY OFF ICE CREAMS AND CHEESE, SO I MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALCIUM DEFICIENT FOR ALL YOU KNOW. HAD NO PRIOR PROBLEMS WITH DAIRY THAT I REMEMBER.> > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it?HE WAS ON PROPULSID AND ZANTAC MONTHS 4 TO 8 TILL WE ASKED TO PULL IT. WE HAD TO HOLD HIM UPRIGHT FOR 15 MINUTES OR MORE AFTER EACH FEED TO KEEP THE MILK DOWN. IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE PROBLEM HAD LESSENED IN SEVERITY. THERE WERE ALSO SOME SIDE EFFECT REPORTS ABOUT ZANTAC IN THE NEWS IN 1998 AND I WAS UNEASY ABOUT KEEPING HIM ON THE MEDS FOR THAT LONG A PERIOD OF TIME. INCIDENTALLY REFLUX WAS CONFIRMED IN AN ULTRASOUND AFTER SWALLOWING SOME BARIUM (I THINK).I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ALUMINIUM IN THEM, BOTH WERE IN A SUSPENSION TYPE OF LIQUID.> > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi)THANKFULLY NEVER.> > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity)YES. HAD TO WEAR THOSE GOGGLES.> > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum)> > seizures YES, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), DON'T KNOW HE USED TO JERK HIS HEAD UPWARDS LAST YEAR BUT I THINK THAT COMES FROM THE TETANUS FROM THE DTaP. I GAVE HIM HOMEOPATHIC LEDUM A FEW TIMES FOR AN UNRELATED ACUTE AND NOTICED THE HEAD JERKING DIMINISHED CONSIDERABLY. I STILL SEE A LITTLE BIT EVERY NOW AND THEN AND ITS IGNORABLE.speech problems, YES, BOTH EXPRESSIVE AND RECEPTIVE> hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), YES, STIFFNESS IN NECK (WAS AFFECTING HIS NERGY LEVELS AS PER THE EAV NATUROPATH AND CHIROPRACTIC VISITS HELPED), SEEMS TO FLOP IN HIS MIDSECTION AREA, OVERALL LACKS GRIT AND STAMINA.apnea, DO NOT KNOWmicrocephaly, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO HE USED TO HAVE THESE LONG STUPOR SPELLS IN SPITE OF SEIZURE MEDS. > craniosynostosis, DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT THE FONTANELLES TOOK FOREVER TO CLOSEirritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), VERY IRRITABLE YOU COULD NOT PUT HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST YEAR MUCH AT ALL. HE WAS ALSO A 31.5 WEEK GESTATION PREEMIE.labs ever show > elevated alkaline phosphatase, MY OWN LABS HAVE SHOWN HIGH SGOT, SGPT. I HAD DEVELOPED MYOFASCIAL PAIN SYNDROME AFTER BEING REAR ENDED IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT AND THIS SHOWED UP AFTER THAT. INCIDENTALLY WE HAVE 7 OUT OF 10 SNPs COMMON ON THE YASKO BASIC 10 PANEL SO HE IS VERY LIKE ME.microcytic anemia, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS BUT HE DID HAVE ANEMIA IN THE FIRST YEAR.calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop > unexplained fractures HIS CALCIUM HAS BEEN ALWAYS TOWARDS THE LOWER END OF THE AVERAGE RANGE WITH AVERAGE SUPPLEMENTATION AND HIS MAGNESIUM HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY LOW WITH A LOT OF SUPPLEMENTATION.I DID SOME READING LAST YEAR AND FINALLY DISCOVERED THAT HIS CONDITION LOOKED LIKE "HYPERCALCEMIA." I FOUND CONNECTIONS TO THE THYROID/ ADRENALS, THE PARATHYROIDS AND CALCIUM CHANNELS IN CONNECTION WITH THAT. HIS ARMS AT THE ELBOW JOINTS AND HIS CALVES WHERE THEY MEET HIS FEET HAVE THIS STRANGE BOWED SHAPE, THE ELBOW JOINT REALLY JUTS OUT. I HAVE SEEN THIS IN AT LEAST ONE OTHER CHILD. DR. GREEN DID NOT BELIEVE ME AT FIRST BUT THE TESTS PARTIALLY HELD TRUE FOR SOME THINGS, I DON'T THINK WE RAN TESTS FOR EVERYTHING.MY SON'S THYROID HAS ALSO FLUCTUATED LIKE CRAZY. HE LOOKED LIKE HYPERTHYROID EARLIER IN 2003, THEN HE BECAME HYPOTHYROID WHEN HE WAS 8 AND BEGAN GAINING WEIGHT, IN 2006. I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOME HYPERPARATHYROIDISM GOING ON.> > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix)HE IS A DEC 1997 CHILD AND SO ESCAPED THE PREVNAR AND THE PEDIATRIX - THANK GOODNESS - BUT YES THERE WAS CLEAR REGRESSION AFTER EVERY ROUND OF SHOTS. IN HINDSIGHT ITS EVIDENT, AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED AS THOUGH IT CAME FROM THE EARLY BIRTH (2 MONTHS EARLY). IN ALL FAIRNESS THERE WERE SENSORY AND BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS SO IT SEEMED TOUGH BEHAVIORALLY. AND THE DIARRHEA OF COURSE THAT SHOWED UP AFTER THE MMR. THEN THE SICKNESS AT 3+ YEARS, AND THE PLUNGE INTO AUTISM BEGAN ONLY AROUND AGE 4 AFTER 2 BOUTS OF STREP (WITH ANTIBIOTICS) AND 2 FLU SHOTS A MONTH APART, THEY MAKE YOU DO THE BOOSTER.> > > just curious> > and finally> > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... I AM NOT SURE I WANT TO DO THIS, IT SOUNDS AWFUL. > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding......> > my 2 cents> d ayoub, mdTHANKS, GAYATRI. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST "REAL" DOCTOR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 I wanted to add to this whole aluminum talk that the most evident first layer problems with my son came from the sycotic miasm (Medorrhinum) for those interested in the homeopathic part of it. My MIL has arthritis and asthma and my FIL has had bypass surgery and his rheumatiod arthritis kicked in in his 80s. My husband has a corn allergy as does my son. My son has a minor syphilinum miasm from my side of the family. My dad has had a bypass and has hypertension, my mom has anxiety and immune system problems and the dairy allergy that she found out abut in her 70s. My son's official autism kicked in (the auto-immune destruction part of it) after the his strep and flu shots (mercury) at 4 years. My family and I do have horrific psora (immune system and associated issues). Gayatri > > > > There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from > contaminated water used for > > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal > patients was oral > > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in > blood. TPN (IV > > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of > aluminum but the > > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in > australia showed that as > > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of > aluminum in the known > > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in > children with normal renal > > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like > seizures, regression of > > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and > I know few share this > > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) > > > > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if > their kids were " aluminum > > kids " > > > > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and > may have gotten TPN > > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid > HepB vax) > > > YES > > > > > > 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium > supplements are contaminated > > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide > in it > > > I DON'T SPECIFICALLY REMEMBER THE CALCIUM PILLS BUT DID HAVE THE > PRENATALS THAT MADE ME VERY SICK IN THE FIRST TRIMESTER. I DO HOWEVER > CLEARLY RECALL A REVULSION TO DAIRY AND WENT COMPLETELY OFF ICE > CREAMS AND CHEESE, SO I MIGHT HAVE BEEN CALCIUM DEFICIENT FOR ALL YOU > KNOW. HAD NO PRIOR PROBLEMS WITH DAIRY THAT I REMEMBER. > > > > > > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have > aluminum in it? > > > HE WAS ON PROPULSID AND ZANTAC MONTHS 4 TO 8 TILL WE ASKED TO PULL > IT. WE HAD TO HOLD HIM UPRIGHT FOR 15 MINUTES OR MORE AFTER EACH FEED > TO KEEP THE MILK DOWN. IT SEEMED AS THOUGH THE PROBLEM HAD LESSENED > IN SEVERITY. THERE WERE ALSO SOME SIDE EFFECT REPORTS ABOUT ZANTAC IN > THE NEWS IN 1998 AND I WAS UNEASY ABOUT KEEPING HIM ON THE MEDS FOR > THAT LONG A PERIOD OF TIME. INCIDENTALLY REFLUX WAS CONFIRMED IN AN > ULTRASOUND AFTER SWALLOWING SOME BARIUM (I THINK). > > I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD ALUMINIUM IN THEM, BOTH WERE IN A SUSPENSION > TYPE OF LIQUID. > > > > > > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some > formulas are very hi) > > > THANKFULLY NEVER. > > > > > > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver > toxicity) > > > YES. HAD TO WEAR THOSE GOGGLES. > > > > > > > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum > (many of these are not > > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) > > > > > seizures YES > > > , myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), DON'T KNOW HE > USED TO JERK HIS HEAD UPWARDS LAST YEAR BUT I THINK THAT COMES FROM > THE TETANUS FROM THE DTaP. I GAVE HIM HOMEOPATHIC LEDUM A FEW TIMES > FOR AN UNRELATED ACUTE AND NOTICED THE HEAD JERKING DIMINISHED > CONSIDERABLY. I STILL SEE A LITTLE BIT EVERY NOW AND THEN AND ITS > IGNORABLE. > > > speech problems, YES, BOTH EXPRESSIVE AND RECEPTIVE > > > > > hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), YES, > STIFFNESS IN NECK (WAS AFFECTING HIS NERGY LEVELS AS PER THE EAV > NATUROPATH AND CHIROPRACTIC VISITS HELPED), SEEMS TO FLOP IN HIS > MIDSECTION AREA, OVERALL LACKS GRIT AND STAMINA. > > > apnea, DO NOT KNOW > > > microcephaly, I DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO > HE USED TO HAVE THESE LONG STUPOR SPELLS IN SPITE OF SEIZURE MEDS. > > > > craniosynostosis, DO NOT KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS BUT THE FONTANELLES > TOOK FOREVER TO CLOSE > > > irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), VERY IRRITABLE > YOU COULD NOT PUT HIM DOWN IN THE FIRST YEAR MUCH AT ALL. HE WAS ALSO > A 31.5 WEEK GESTATION PREEMIE. > > labs ever show > > elevated alkaline phosphatase, MY OWN LABS HAVE SHOWN HIGH SGOT, > SGPT. I HAD DEVELOPED MYOFASCIAL PAIN SYNDROME AFTER BEING REAR ENDED > IN A TRAFFIC ACCIDENT AND THIS SHOWED UP AFTER THAT. INCIDENTALLY WE > HAVE 7 OUT OF 10 SNPs COMMON ON THE YASKO BASIC 10 PANEL SO HE IS > VERY LIKE ME. > > > microcytic anemia, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS BUT HE DID HAVE ANEMIA > IN THE FIRST YEAR. > > > calcium disturbances (hi or lo), develop > > unexplained fractures HIS CALCIUM HAS BEEN ALWAYS TOWARDS THE LOWER > END OF THE AVERAGE RANGE WITH AVERAGE SUPPLEMENTATION AND HIS > MAGNESIUM HAS BEEN CHRONICALLY LOW WITH A LOT OF SUPPLEMENTATION. > > I DID SOME READING LAST YEAR AND FINALLY DISCOVERED THAT HIS > CONDITION LOOKED LIKE " HYPERCALCEMIA. " I FOUND CONNECTIONS TO THE > THYROID/ ADRENALS, THE PARATHYROIDS AND CALCIUM CHANNELS IN > CONNECTION WITH THAT. HIS ARMS AT THE ELBOW JOINTS AND HIS CALVES > WHERE THEY MEET HIS FEET HAVE THIS STRANGE BOWED SHAPE, THE ELBOW > JOINT REALLY JUTS OUT. I HAVE SEEN THIS IN AT LEAST ONE OTHER CHILD. > DR. GREEN DID NOT BELIEVE ME AT FIRST BUT THE TESTS PARTIALLY HELD > TRUE FOR SOME THINGS, I DON'T THINK WE RAN TESTS FOR EVERYTHING. > > MY SON'S THYROID HAS ALSO FLUCTUATED LIKE CRAZY. HE LOOKED LIKE > HYPERTHYROID EARLIER IN 2003, THEN HE BECAME HYPOTHYROID WHEN HE WAS > 8 AND BEGAN GAINING WEIGHT, IN 2006. I THINK THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN > SOME HYPERPARATHYROIDISM GOING ON. > > > > > > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, > HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) > > HE IS A DEC 1997 CHILD AND SO ESCAPED THE PREVNAR AND THE PEDIATRIX - > THANK GOODNESS - BUT YES THERE WAS CLEAR REGRESSION AFTER EVERY ROUND > OF SHOTS. IN HINDSIGHT ITS EVIDENT, AT THAT TIME IT SEEMED AS THOUGH > IT CAME FROM THE EARLY BIRTH (2 MONTHS EARLY). IN ALL FAIRNESS THERE > WERE SENSORY AND BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS SO IT SEEMED TOUGH BEHAVIORALLY. > AND THE DIARRHEA OF COURSE THAT SHOWED UP AFTER THE MMR. THEN THE > SICKNESS AT 3+ YEARS, AND THE PLUNGE INTO AUTISM BEGAN ONLY AROUND > AGE 4 AFTER 2 BOUTS OF STREP (WITH ANTIBIOTICS) AND 2 FLU SHOTS A > MONTH APART, THEY MAKE YOU DO THE BOOSTER. > > > > > > just curious > > > > and finally > > > > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of > autistic children at > > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in > Lipofusicn and either > > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to > aluminum...... > > > I AM NOT SURE I WANT TO DO THIS, IT SOUNDS AWFUL. > > > > > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) > that identifies > > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big > finding...... > > > > my 2 cents > > d ayoub, md > > THANKS, GAYATRI. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU ARE THE FIRST " REAL " > DOCTOR ASKING THESE QUESTIONS. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 this makes me sick. my son had an allergic reaction to milk formula after 7 months of breast feeding so we put him on soy. it just occurred to me that aluminum from deoderant was probably SOAKING my breasts for years and affected my breast milk anyway? thankfully, i ignored the idiot neurologist in town who suggests to everyone with a child with autism to give them tums everyday for their calcium supplementation. i heard shortly after she suggested this to us that one kid she sees ended up puking up everything because the tums had killed all his stomach acid.... i didn't even connect the aluminum connection. funny thing is, i've posted here at least twice that she was the person who said to me and another autism mom that " it's not the mercury that caused this, but it's 'something' you girls did while pregnant...like drinking coke or 'something' " . Now I can say maybe she was not even aware she was onto something, like the ALUMINUM in the coke cans (or the plastic bottles containing poison, too?)??? of course, my son got 4 HepB shots (I realized this after my pediatrician told me that lots of doctors start the 3 series over after they leave the hospital and ignore the fact that they already got one in the hospital) full of mercury and aluminum and was slightly jaundiced after we got home, just bad enough to set him in the sun at first. i could go on. lots of thrush, slept ALL THE TIME, 4 hour naps at least, huge speech issues, you get the pic. when will this end. > > There were actually very few cases of aluminum toxicity from contaminated water > used for > > the dialysis machines, the overwhelming most common source in renal patients was oral > > medicine that had aluminum that helped lower phosphorus levels in blood. TPN (IV > > solutions), antacids and some formulas are a very large source of aluminum but the > > amount in these is dwarfed by the amount in vaccines. Studies in australia showed that > as > > little as 2 days of antacids in premies resulted in blood levels of aluminum in the known > > toxic range. There are several reports of aluminum toxicity in children with normal renal > > function in the literature and the toxicities include things like seizures, regression of > > speech, hypotonia (floppy kids), myoclonus, etc. In my opinion, and I know few share > this > > view, aluminum is potentially worse than mercury. (IMHO) > > > > I am curious, this would be me questions to ask moms to see if their kids were > " aluminum > > kids " > > > > 1) was your child premie? (means don't excrete aluminum well and may have gotten TPN > > or other IVs in the nursery, first few weeks and the ever stupid HepB vax) > > > > 2) did mom take " calcium " pills prenatally....most calcium supplements are > contaminated > > with aluminum, some products just plain out have aluminum hydroxide in it > > > > 3) did you child get medicine for GERD/reflux and did that have aluminum in it? > > > > 4) did you child take a soy formula? (aluminum levels in some formulas are very hi) > > > > 5) did your child have neonatal jaundice? ( aluminum causes liver toxicity) > > > > 5) does your child have features that are attributed to aluminum (many of these are not > > specific, but the more seen together, the more likely aluminum) > > > > seizures, myoclunus (jerky involuntary movements, esp facial), speech problems, > > hypotonia ( a floopy kid, head and truncal weaknes, etc), apnea, microcephaly, > > craniosynostosis, irritability when moved as infant (sign of bone pain), labs ever show > > elevated alkaline phosphatase, microcytic anemia, calcium disturbances (hi or lo), > develop > > unexplained fractures > > > > and was there a regression after the aluminum vaxs (HepB, Prevnar, HiB, DTaP,Pediarix) > > > > just curious > > > > and finally > > > > the recent study from Hurtada showed Lipofusicin in the brains of autistic children at > > autopsy. A novel and interesting finding. Go to pubmed and type in Lipofusicn and either > > mercury or aluminum and you will see many more links to aluminum...... > > > > IF aluminum cuased this pathology than a stain for aluminum (Morin) that identifies > > Lipofuscin in proximity to Morin stained aluminum will be a big finding...... > > > > my 2 cents > > d ayoub, md > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 My twins, both preemies, were given TPN at first - then when started feeding at times were given TPN and milk. My one was on TPN lines for 7 weeks due to NEC - he is the ASD one - also is high in Alumnium. > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral feeding > when using TPN. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 What is NEC? > > > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral > feeding > > when using TPN. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 NEC is Necrotizing enterocolitis an infection that causes destruction of intestinal tissue. Initially, the affected sections of the bowels are inflamed. Bacteria " eat away " at the lining, killing the tissue. Eventually, the intestinal wall is perforated. According to the American Pediatric Surgical Association, NEC affects about 25,000 babies every year. It's usually seen in preterm or low birth weight babies and is the most common gastrointestinal condition in premature babies. Infants with NEC may have feeding difficulty, decreased bowel sounds, bloating, abdominal tenderness and bloody stools. No one knows what causes NEC, or why premature babies appear to be at highest risk for the condition. Some people think the intestinal tissues of preemies haven't fully developed and are stressed by food moving through the bowels. That may allow bacteria that normally live in the gut to invade the walls of the intestines. http://www.hoinews.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=21913 Can be fatal. My ds had to have inches of his bowel removed and a reattachment done. Diane > > > > > > I don't know if preemies are given both, but I think not, because > > > they are trying to avoid the complications of too-early oral > > feeding > > > when using TPN. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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