Re: OT? PBS's Medicated Child kind of crappy-

[Guest guest]

You mean " lick...boots " ? Lol.

The self-indulgent mom may have been on meds herself. It sometimes

follows that the adult makes the choice to put their kids on meds

while " under the influence " .

I've seen people I know take them and noted how annoying their

personalities became when they weren't previously like that. It's

really sad because the cruel trick of the meds is that onlookers have

no evidence to assume the person is NOT " just like that " . The longer

they were on them, the more unmotivated, whiney, self-pitying,

paranoid and manipulative a few became. That sounds like trite

criticism but the regressions (to a mean age of about thirteen,

complete with change in choice of clothing) weren't merely irritating

in the end but actually became dangerous for some.

> >

> > I suspected it was going to be way too diplomatic when I didn't

see

> > many of the main voices in the psychiatric reform featured as the

> > series of " experts " . Turned out to be true. Sure the show made

the

> > correlation between suicide and SSRIs, but the program itself

> > provided false information and did not offer dissent to these

> > assumptions. That dissent would have been so easy to find but

those

> > people were all noticeably missing from the program. Instead

there

> > were a lot of NIMH and FDA folks just unquestioningly asserting

the

> > bogus message that some kids " need " these drugs. Oh, " some need

them

> > but for others they're not effective " .

> >

> > Mental illness isn't caused by pharmaceutical deprivation.

> >

> > For another thing, the suicide rate spiked among teens just prior

to

> > the placement of the black box warnings on SSRIs, though the

voice-

> > over asserted the reverse. The show lied, in other words.

Secondly,

> > the increased uptake of antipsychotics was due to multiple

factors,

> > not just a matter of the poor shrinks having to give kids

something

> > else because their poor parents were scared off of SSRIs by the

mean

> > black boxes, which is how the PBS doc characterizes it.

> >

> > In fact, aside from fresh child market approvals (or the promise

of

> > them) spurring on unprecedentedly aggressive marketing campaigns

by

> > the drug companies for antipsychotics, the increase in

antipsychotic

> > prescriptions for children is MOSTLY due to side effects of

> > antidepressants and stimulants, which both cause mania, which is

then

> > diagnosed as bipolar disorder. And--tada-- you have polypharmacy

in a

> > nutshell: give one drug then diagnose a " comorbid disorder "

because

> > of the side effects of the first drug. Give another drug, dx

> > another " comorbid disorder " from the second drug's side effects>

Then

> > never blame the drugs for any of it. In fact, thank the drugs

> > for " uncovering " the previously " invisible " disorders. Ugh.

> >

> > And then of course there's the use of antipsychotics to treat

vaccine

> > side effects, including autism (all the big marketing guns are

aimed

> > right at our kids), which in a sense is also polypharmacy. I

think

> > we're all more than aware that vaccine toxins like mercury cause

> > irritability and erratic behavior at the very least, which can

easily

> > be diagnosed from a slew of meaningless DSM entries signifying

> > surface behavior: BP, ADHD, conduct disorder, reactive attachment

> > disorder, bla bla bla. This has been known about metals for

> > centuries. I didn't expect the show to mention this, but I didn't

> > expect it to undercut the important potential message with a lot

of

> > the usual pharma disinformation.

> >

> > Diplomacy isn't always a good thing. I suppose that in film

making,

> > like getting political candidacy, sometimes you've got to lick a

few

> > of the wrong hands. Maybe the film maker had to make concessions

just

> > to pound home the message that these drugs increase risk of

suicide

> > and diabetes, etc.. I'm just tired of the luke warm half truth on

all

> > counts.

> >

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