Re: Thimerosal Down but Autism Rising

[Guest guest]

sorry, excuse the typo s/b " spin " ...not spint

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> I was looking to see if anyone had posted this story on here yet. I

> couldn't find it, so I thought I would throw it on here for

everyone's

> views...Sounds like more spint to me.

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> Regards,

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> Steve

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> http://tinyurl.com/2fu2xz

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[Guest guest]

It's crap. Thimerosal wasn't removed from childhood vaccines or

vaccines given to pregnant women in CA until 2006 and during the 2006-

2007 flu season, Thimerosal containing flu shots were given because of

a " crisis " - " shortage " of Thimerosal free flu shots, yet hundreds of

thousands of them were destroyed during said flu season elsewhere.

, FA ~

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> I was looking to see if anyone had posted this story on here yet. I

> couldn't find it, so I thought I would throw it on here for

everyone's

> views...Sounds like more spint to me.

>

> Regards,

>

> Steve

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2fu2xz

>

[Guest guest]

Can anyone reference a site with the CA no from each quarter from 1999

to date?

TIA,

Debi

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> It's crap. Thimerosal wasn't removed from childhood vaccines or

> vaccines given to pregnant women in CA until 2006 and during the 2006-

> 2007 flu season, Thimerosal containing flu shots were given because of

> a " crisis " - " shortage " of Thimerosal free flu shots, yet hundreds of

> thousands of them were destroyed during said flu season elsewhere.

>

> , FA ~

[Guest guest]

http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/QuarterlyReports.cfm

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> > It's crap. Thimerosal wasn't removed from childhood vaccines or

> > vaccines given to pregnant women in CA until 2006 and during the 2006-

> > 2007 flu season, Thimerosal containing flu shots were given because of

> > a " crisis " - " shortage " of Thimerosal free flu shots, yet hundreds of

> > thousands of them were destroyed during said flu season elsewhere.

> >

> > , FA ~

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[Guest guest]

This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they offer begin in

2002:

http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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> > It's crap. Thimerosal wasn't removed from childhood vaccines or

> > vaccines given to pregnant women in CA until 2006 and during the 2006-

> > 2007 flu season, Thimerosal containing flu shots were given because of

> > a " crisis " - " shortage " of Thimerosal free flu shots, yet hundreds of

> > thousands of them were destroyed during said flu season elsewhere.

> >

> > , FA ~

>

[Guest guest]

From the same link below:

" In July of 2003 there was a clarification in eligibility criteria to make it

consistent with

federal practice that requires evidence of substantial impairment in three

domains before

determining a person eligible for regional center services. An unknown is how

the State's

fiscal climate could have influenced intake. Additional research is required to

confirm

whether one, two or any of these factors are affecting caseload growth. The data

also

reveal that with the exception of autism, growth in all other categories of

developmental

disabilities has significantly declined.

There is aggregate data about caseload by regional center; however, it is

difficult to

identify any important facts without further data analysis. This was not

possible to do in

the time available. Similarly, breakdowns by age group would be more useful if

they

included information about diagnosis, but time was a constraint. However, it is

important

to note that cost-containment is age based and the growth in the younger

population

implies greater future year costs. Other information that DDS has developed

shows that

most of the consumers with autism fall under the age of nineteen. "

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> This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they offer begin

in 2002:

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> http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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[Guest guest]

Sorry for yet another post. This is the correct link for reports from 1999-2002:

Click on

the PDF titled; " 2003 Autism " .

http://www.dds.ca.gov/Autism/Home.cfm

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> > This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they offer

begin in 2002:

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> > http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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[Guest guest]

Okay, here's what I don't get:

new cases of autism in CA:

1999 2355

2000 2379

2001 2912

2002 3524

2003 3429

2004 3554

How is it then that autism did not decrease as thimerosal was

supposedly removed? It was begun to phase out in 1999, the rate peaked

in 2002, when those kids born in 1999 were getting the age of

diagnosis. However, the flu shot, when was it added, in 2002 or 2003?

I can't figure out from all the forms on the 2004-present reports what

new cases of autism are, but it seems like around 2005 it began going

up again. This study doesn't even acknowledge that.

Debi

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> This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they

offer begin in 2002:

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> http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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[Guest guest]

What " phase out? " The conversation was just beginning. When the

CA " ban " finally took effect, doctors immed asked for a reprieve.

Did any of them send their stock of vaccines for destruction? I don't

think so.

Also, remember that " too much mercury was accidentally used " in

1999. I read it in the local paper and thought it would make big

news. I can't find an online reference at all. I showed my husband

the article, so I didn't imagine it.

My son has autism and was born in 1999; the article caught my

attention.

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> > This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they

> offer begin in 2002:

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> > http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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[Guest guest]

I believe there were batches still out there through 2/2007. With that being the case, this should be the peak. I must say that there are parents out there that are literally hunting for a diagnosis. I see kids diagnosed as "on the spectrum" now that would never have had that diagnosis before. Overdiagnosis, overzealous physicians/psychologists are inflating these numbers also. I don't know if we'll ever see the *real* figures. Sophia http://justamom2three.blogspot.com/thefitzenreiterfamily <thefitzenreiterfamily@...> wrote: What "phase out?" The conversation was just beginning. When the CA "ban" finally took effect, doctors immed asked for a reprieve. Did any of them send their stock of vaccines for destruction? I don't think so.Also, remember that "too much mercury was accidentally used" in 1999. I read it in the local paper and thought it would make big news. I can't find an online reference at all. I showed my husband the article, so I didn't imagine it. My son has autism and was born in 1999; the article caught my attention.> >> > This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports they> offer begin in 2002:> > > > http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm> >>

Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.

[Guest guest]

New to the group, but not the fight. Went looking abit on my own for

my home state and found this....thought it was interesting.

http://www.jpands.org/vol8no4/yazbak.pdf

> Sorry for yet another post. This is the correct link for reports

from 1999-2002: Click on

> the PDF titled; " 2003 Autism " .

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> http://www.dds.ca.gov/Autism/Home.cfm

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> > > This link covers from 1999 to 2004, as the quarterly reports

they offer begin in 2002:

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> > > http://www.dds.ca.gov/FactsStats/RCGrowthAnalysis.cfm

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[Guest guest]

With our without mercury it's too many shot, too young.

>

> I was looking to see if anyone had posted this story on here yet. I

> couldn't find it, so I thought I would throw it on here for

everyone's

> views...Sounds like more spint to me.

>

> Regards,

>

> Steve

>

> http://tinyurl.com/2fu2xz

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