Re: Re:Debi/Nora G./ Anacat: pbs/bi polar..

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I would like to post your email exchange on this subject to a parent in my community who does not understand this. They have a child with Bi-polar and one with autism diagnosis. As you can see, I have omitted your names/email addresses, but I need your permission to forward (will omit your names/addresses there as well). Thanks RoxTHIRD PARENT EMAIL:

If there was a genetic component to mental illness, they'd have found

it by now. They've aimed billions, all the big research guns and over

a hundred years of trying to find this elusive genetic link. To no

avail. All they discovered was the same mechanisms that our science

discovered for autism may also effect schizophrenia: a combo of

metals and viruses (Bernie Devlin found a link between schizophrenia

and CMV). All anyone could ever determine was that mental illness is

environmental, whether this meant "emotional environment"

or "environmental toxins" or a combination.

I think our realm has probably made one of the greatest contributions

to mental health science by broadening the understanding that

susceptibility to toxins may run in families. Otherwise, family

behavior can be perpetuated to ruin generation after generation and

it's not necessarily the impact of toxins or susceptibility genes

which cause this, though that would not help. And then there are

simply cases of an individual breaking down from early trauma which

doesn't originate from aggression within the family of origin

(stranger rape or assault from someone outside the family. Witnessing

a death or atrocity. Loss of a sibling, watching someone die from an

illness) and "passing on" this unprocessed trauma to subsequent

generations. This is why recognizing PTSD is so important, but in

past generations, the response was to insist someone just "get over

it" or deny it. If they cracked and entered the mental health system,

then their troubles really began.

Domestic violence still effects fifty percent of women at at least

one point in their lives. This is an historically stable figure,

though in societies which "accept" this and don't regard it as a

crime (Korea in the past), the rate can be much higher. 50% of

children are sexually abused between 3 and 18, mostly by people they

know. We don't NEED toxins to disrupt people's health and lives, but

add this to the mix and the deck is stacked against some.

Furthermore, antidepessants have been around since 1959, which is the

exact moment when "bipolar disorder"-- then known as manic depression-

- skyrocketed. Previous to this, most cases of mental illness

were "unipolar". Antidepressants have long been known to trigger

mania, particularly when a dose is changed or withdrawn, though it

develops gradually while someone is on the medications.

Who knows what could have happened? It's not impossible that your

grandmother is the key to your family's metal sensitivity. Or she may

have started out by lashing out at real social circumstances and

ended up nuts from drugs, punitive therapy (for a history of

how "great" therapy was for women, read "For Their Own Good" and "The

Yellow Wall Paper") and stigmatization.

SECOND PARENT EMAIL:

>

> Here's what I wonder about mental health disorders, like bipolar,

> schizophrenia, the big, mind-altering, hallucinogenic, paranoia

mental

> health disorders. My SIL's mother, who would have been about 80 at

> this point, had various diagnoses throughout her life. Essentially,

> she would go off on these crazy episodes that would land her in the

> funny farm. They'd drug her up, but she would be "normal" in her

mind.

> Then, over a couple of years she would slowly stop taking her meds,

> then cycle over & over. I saw one of the last ones. She was dxed

from

> bipolar to paranoid schizophrenic. She never did street drugs that

any

> of us are aware.

>

> Her bizarre behaviors included chasing her youngest daughter with a

> butcher knife to kill her, cleaning out all the furniture from the

> room to leave only a rocking chair where she sat until her middle

> daughter came home to tell her the make-up Clairol stold her

identity

> (her name was Clara) and she was gonna sue; playing all her old 45s

> and deciding her grandson in high school wasn't taught enough "good"

> music & told her daughter she was going to take all of the music to

> the school so the yung'ens could learn, screaming it, running up

> credit cards that she just got so she could buy a bicycle for every

> single kid she knew, when the Walmart manager asked her why she was

> buying so many bicycles she screamed & cussed him out & called

> everyone over him.

>

> On mental health drugs, like risperdal, she was great. Calm but not

> drugged, happy, but not stupid silly, had mental clarity, etc. She

> also took others with seemingly good effects, though I'm sure she

had

> side effects at times, who couldn't. Off them, she was simply nuts.

>

> She had 3 daughters, one ( of which I'm convinced is nuts for a

> variety of reasons, and one of her ( 3 daughters struggles with

> mental health issues, too.

>

> I guess my thought is, she didn't have microwave ovens, she didn't

eat

> processed foods out the wazzoo. She was like this from a teenager,

if

> not before. It is possible something happened in her childhood, I

> dunno. But it's also obvious there has been some genetic component.

>

> Any thoughts on cases like this?

>

> Debi

>

FIRST PARENT EMAIL:

> >

> > I just finished watching the psychiatric elephant program,on PBS-

> Frontline (as in 3 blind men and the elephant), totally sickening.

> They act as if the brain scans were not connected to the head bone,

> the neck bone, the mouth, the throat the stomach, the intestinal

> tract, the microwaved food (hotdog on a stick , heated in...) the

gmo

> foods, artificial flavorings, stabilizers, hormoned milks, home

> cleaning products, wrong- wave lighting(see Ott's full spectrum

> light work),no exercise, playing to get worn out and tired.

> > MUCH LESS, acknowledge the pediatric pharmacy formulas for

sticking

> nasty ingredients (mercury, lead, aluminum, additives that I don't

> remember the names of..) vaccines, mercury amalgams...

> > Only scan the brain, read the map...have no ideas about what went

> developmentally and environmentally in the body to make the affects

> they are hunting for to be IN the Brain?! The map is not the

> territory! argh...

> > Having personally suffered two kids to the temple of psychiatry

and

> gotten them out and off of drugs (with much sturm und drung) I feel

> quite entitled to express this observation. It is not just the

kids,

> it's the care takers also. And years out of our lives dealing with

> their misconstrued concepts, exasperating. ..ng

> >

>

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